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Old 12-18-2017, 08:46 AM
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Sigma Chi accused of Drugging Sorority at Rutgers

This is a sad state of affairs...

http://www.nj.com/middlesex/index.ss...rority_me.html
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Old 12-18-2017, 01:50 PM
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A sad state of affairs from all sides.

No mention of police involvement here.

That seems problematic when this looks like potentially multiple counts of attempted sexual assault.
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Old 12-18-2017, 02:23 PM
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Unthinkable.

What happened to the moral compass of today's young people? This not only hurts GLO's there, but Sigma Chi National, along with all GLO's all over.
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Old 12-18-2017, 02:54 PM
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Having been on the other end of spiked punch...it's some scary shiz.
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Old 12-18-2017, 04:02 PM
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I'm glad this sort of thing is at least being looked into and dealt with by some authorities. I would just rather it be law enforcement and not university administrators.
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Wow. Just... wow.

I remember, back when I was in college, learning some basic things to be mindful of - in general, not just at fraternity mixers. One of them was, if a fraternity member tries to get you to drink the "special punch for the ladies", DON'T, because odds are there's something more harmful than alcohol in it. That was 20+ years ago. It's sad that we still need to be giving this exact same advice to young women.

The article states that the Xanax in the punch "reportedly interfered with one individual's prescribed medication." She could have died!

While it's good that the university administration and the Sigma Chi national office have taken action, I would like to see law enforcement get involved.
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Old 12-18-2017, 09:27 PM
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I'm glad this sort of thing is at least being looked into and dealt with by some authorities. I would just rather it be law enforcement and not university administrators.

If I went to a bar and some man slipped Xanax into my drink, would that be dealt with by the police as a criminal case or would the bar or building owner look into it for me?
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Touche, sister.
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Old 12-19-2017, 12:15 AM
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If I went to a bar and some man slipped Xanax into my drink, would that be dealt with by the police as a criminal case or would the bar or building owner look into it for me?
Probably neither, but we can do better.
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Kevin, would this not be a criminal act? Adulteration of a substance introduced to a drink.
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Old 12-19-2017, 08:14 AM
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Wow. Just... wow.

I remember, back when I was in college, learning some basic things to be mindful of - in general, not just at fraternity mixers. One of them was, if a fraternity member tries to get you to drink the "special punch for the ladies", DON'T, because odds are there's something more harmful than alcohol in it. That was 20+ years ago. It's sad that we still need to be giving this exact same advice to young women.
Who is advising men not to spike the punch?

I am absolutely disgusted by this behavior and I'm not understanding why the world is still like this.
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Old 12-19-2017, 09:27 AM
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Bring down the law on these guys. It's a criminal offense.
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Old 12-19-2017, 01:13 PM
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Bring down the law on these guys. It's a criminal offense.
Federal:

unauthorized distribution of a controlled substance (Xanex is schedule iv) - up to 5 years in prison and fine up to $250K if individual and up to $1 mil if other than individual.

(Generally, states have a similar statute against unauthorized distribution of drugs)


Examples of state crimes:

Depending on state where took place -

Food tampering

infliction of bodily harm - (e.g., assault)

Consumption by fraudulent means

And depending on specific circumstances, can be -

rape/sexual assault

* * *
There are a lot more statutes that may come into play. For time reasons, these are just some examples. And of course no legal advice is being given here.
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Federal:

unauthorized distribution of a controlled substance (Xanex is schedule iv) - up to 5 years in prison and fine up to $250K if individual and up to $1 mil if other than individual.

(Generally, states have a similar statute against unauthorized distribution of drugs)


Examples of state crimes:

Depending on state where took place -

Food tampering

infliction of bodily harm - (e.g., assault)

Consumption by fraudulent means

And depending on specific circumstances, can be -

rape/sexual assault

* * *
There are a lot more statutes that may come into play. For time reasons, these are just some examples. And of course no legal advice is being given here.
That is exactly what I was referring to!

To be blunt, *THIS SHIT* must be stopped! To do it is to file charges against them. And, it must be done now!!!

There must be a moral evaluation and change!
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Old 12-19-2017, 02:59 PM
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I remember, back when I was in college, learning some basic things to be mindful of - in general, not just at fraternity mixers. One of them was, if a fraternity member tries to get you to drink the "special punch for the ladies", DON'T, because odds are there's something more harmful than alcohol in it. That was 20+ years ago. It's sad that we still need to be giving this exact same advice to young women.
God, I hope that's not the case. I want to believe cases such as this one are outliers. From the other side of things, having belonged to a fraternity whose members would furnish that "special punch for the ladies," we did that because we were good hosts and our female guests mostly didn't drink the natty light swill we had become accustomed to.

Everyone can do better. If there's a chapter which is known as "that chapter," then the victims need to do a better job coming forward, anyone, including members with any knowledge needs to come forward. I have been pushing bystander intervention training every chance I get at my alma mater and within my chapter. It's sickening to think that any chapter would have this sort of behavior be prevalent and known in the community and that they would not be immediately investigated and shut down if the reputation was deserved. (and to be clear, I'm not referring to the chapter this thread is about, just the issue of having a chapter on campus which is hypothetically well known for housing rapists being allowed to continue in operation).
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