The "Carnation Twin" thread continued... - Page 2

shadokat · #16 08-13-2002, 09:12 AM

Can't wait for the next installment!!! Are any other schools in the midst of recruitment now?

maggieaxid · #17 08-13-2002, 09:21 AM

very excited!!! i actually got to work early so i could check gc....my life is sooo boring.

h2oot · #18 08-13-2002, 09:24 AM

Good luck to both your daughters. They, and mom, must be sooo excited.

FuzzieAlum · #19 08-13-2002, 11:38 AM

James, the answer to your question is ... a pain in the rear end. It's more sorority rush math. Basically, the more girls in the past who have chosen to come back to ABC's party, the more girls ABC has to cut. If ABC is really popular and girls never cut them, whereas many girls are uninterested in XYZ, XYZ can invite more girls back than can ABC - the theory being the same number of girls will be at their parties in the end. But if XYZ is allowed to invite back 100 girls, they are allowed to invite fewer if they want to. (For example, if XYZ has had very poor rushes in the past and is required to make hardly any cuts, they still should, just so they look like they are choosing their sisters and not taking all comers.)

maggieaxid · #20 08-13-2002, 11:52 AM

it's sorority math for the insane.

violets · #21 08-13-2002, 12:07 PM

So glad your twins are enjoying recruitment! I'm enjoying living it again through their experience! Carnation, thanks so much for including everyone, it's incredibly generous of you.
And like other GCers have said about their own chapters, I'm happy to see they'll be going back to my beloved ADPi for the next event!
Go Greek!
And good luck to the pnms reading these posts...let us know how it's going for you as well!

AOIIBrandi · #22 08-13-2002, 12:31 PM

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okay, this is basicly what happens (correct me if I'm wrong)

sororities make their cuts, turn in their lists....

PNM's look at who invited them back and from there, they made whatever cuts (or not)

For example....

Suzy found out she got invited back to all 6 sororities for the next day. Since the next day you can only go to 5 parities, Suzy has to decide which one (or more if she wishes) she wants to cut. If Suzy has 5 or less invites, she can decide to accept all or cut.

Generally if PNMs are ranking as well as the sororities this is done independently of each other and the PNM does not know who has cut them before they rank.

After each round the PNM will get a scantron (if the school is advanced) and she will rank all of the sororities that she went to that day. The scantrons are then fed into the computer program with the sororities' cuts. It then works kind of like bid matching until the parties are full... If a PNM has been invited back to more than the acceptable number of parties for that day she can then choose which party(ies) not to attend but she must attend the max if she has been invited back to at least that many (say there are 7 sororities but you can only go back to 5, and the PNM was invited back to all 7 she would have to cut 2 but could not cut anymore). The only way she can go back to fewer than the allowed number of parties is if she were not invited back to that many. If a PNM does not go back to the maximum houses that she can or all that she has been invited to she will be dismissed from recruitment.

Hope this helped a little...

OUlioness01 · #23 08-13-2002, 12:49 PM

I'm sooooo excited that the twins will be going back to Phi Mu!!! This is making me remember my own turn being a PNM! Tell the them that whatever chapter they choose they'll be sure to love it!

JMUduke · #24 08-13-2002, 01:09 PM

this never occured to me before, but who created the computer program to make the pnm's sorority prefs and the actual ABC sorority's bids selectio work together on the computer?? I am a total loser for being interested in this?

UF56 · #25 08-13-2002, 01:14 PM

I have been wondering the same thing, and also does it ever have any glitches?

aephi alum · #26 08-13-2002, 01:26 PM

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Originally posted by JMUduke
this never occured to me before, but who created the computer program to make the pnm's sorority prefs and the actual ABC sorority's bids selectio work together on the computer?? I am a total loser for being interested in this

The program we used was called "sorush", I think, but I don't remember who created it. (I wonder if they've had to change the name to "sorecruitment"?

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Originally posted by AOIIBrandi
After each round the PNM will get a scantron (if the school is advanced) and she will rank all of the sororities that she went to that day. The scantrons are then fed into the computer program with the sororities' cuts. It then works kind of like bid matching until the parties are full... If a PNM has been invited back to more than the acceptable number of parties for that day she can then choose which party(ies) not to attend but she must attend the max if she has been invited back to at least that many (say there are 7 sororities but you can only go back to 5, and the PNM was invited back to all 7 she would have to cut 2 but could not cut anymore). The only way she can go back to fewer than the allowed number of parties is if she were not invited back to that many. If a PNM does not go back to the maximum houses that she can or all that she has been invited to she will be dismissed from recruitment.

This must be one of those things that varies from school to school. We never rank ordered the sororities until we filled out our pref cards... we just saw who invited us back at each round, and made any cuts we wanted or were required to make. Then again, there are only 5 sororities... at a school where there are 16 or 17, rank ordering them makes a little more sense.

We also could cut sororities even if doing so brought you under the maximum number for that round. So if you were invited back to 4 sororities for round 2, and you were allowed to go to 3, and you really hated 2 of them, you could drop the 2 you hated and just go to 2 parties, so you didn't have to suffer through a party with a group you disliked. If you did so, you weren't dropped from recruitment, but you became a "bad rushee" and (I believe) ineligible for snap bidding and quota additions (just as if you suicided).

maggieaxid · #27 08-13-2002, 02:21 PM

i was head rho chi the first year we used the sorush system....it's much easier then doing the old paper trail mess, but at the same time, we did occassionally find glitches in it. for instance, suzy PNM gets invited back to 5 of 5 parties, she can only go back to 3. She drops XYZ. The next day, she is only invited back to 1, even though the next round is pref. and the computer thinks SHE HAS to go back to 2. So it would spit out her card and we would end up having to do it by hand. but it didn't happen much.

carnation · #28 08-13-2002, 02:31 PM

DAY 2 OF RUSH
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The girls just called and they're through with parties for the day. They were absolutely bubbling! They loved everything and everybody and are aghast that they'll have to rank chapters this afternoon--I think about 5 PM. Then later in the evening, maybe 10 PM, they should get their invitations.

I told them that they can't go wrong with any of those groups and to just go with their hearts.

ZTABullwinkle · #29 08-13-2002, 02:37 PM

Carnation,

How are you doing this? I know I am so excited for your girls!!! Now, I don't know how I am going to wait for your next update???

Do I remember right...They have tomorrow off, no parties? Then what?

Best of luck to them....

carnation · #30 08-13-2002, 02:42 PM

Tomorrow they have 3 parties in the middle of the day. Thursday evening, they have 2 pref parties. I keep thinking--in less than 72 hours, we'll know something!