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Old 09-16-2018, 08:21 PM
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Out of State Could This Hurt My Chances?!?!?

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So I'll be attending an out-of-state college next year, which means I won't have any connections to women inside the sorority houses right now. I'm wondering in your honest opinion if this could hurt me or any thing I could do to help the situation?? I heard a lot of times joining a sorority is all about who you know inside the house? If I don't know anyone could this hurt my chances of receiving a bid?
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Old 09-16-2018, 08:31 PM
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in short probably not. However, there are certain chapters at SEC schools that have nearly all in-state members. But then, how comfortable would you feel in those chapters? It would benefit you to get recs for all chapters at your chosen school.
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Old 09-16-2018, 08:40 PM
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Also if your school has any sort of a Greek preview weekend, make every effort you can to attend! These usually occur in the spring.
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Old 09-16-2018, 08:53 PM
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A lot will depend on how the greek system works at the school you are attending, because they are ALL different. Where I went, out of state people were desirable PNMs because they were considered "Cool"! You say you don't know anyone in the houses, but do you know local alumnae of the chapters there? If so, get as many recs as you can. Even if you don't know someone personally, they might be willing to meet you for coffee to get to know you a bit and write a rec for you.

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Old 09-16-2018, 09:42 PM
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Recommendation letters aren't needed at my school, should I still get them? Also if I don't know any of the girls because I am out of state how will I get current members to vouch for me?
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Old 09-16-2018, 09:55 PM
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Recommendation letters aren't needed at my school, should I still get them?
You may be told that recs aren't needed, but they make a difference and every PNM should get them. First, they help a sorority become aware of you and as an OOS PNM, that is key. Second, they're an endorsement by sorority alumnae. Compare it to a job interview - would you go in without references? No.

I suggest you go through this site and find the very useful posts with information about recruitment. Every question you've asked here and much more is found there. Good luck.
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Old 09-16-2018, 11:11 PM
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Hi all,

So I'll be attending an out-of-state college next year, which means I won't have any connections to women inside the sorority houses right now. I'm wondering in your honest opinion if this could hurt me or any thing I could do to help the situation?? I heard a lot of times joining a sorority is all about who you know inside the house? If I don't know anyone could this hurt my chances of receiving a bid?
You have no idea which SORORITIES require a letter of recommendation to receive a bid. You want to cover all your bases? GET THE RECS.

Next, there will be hundreds and hundreds of out of state girls going through rush. Of course, OOS women receive bids, but they must be prepared. We have no idea where you are going to school, so you really need to do a lot of reading to understand how this works.

Recs are very rarely written by current members, so connections with current members don't even matter! Recs are written by alumnae of the sororities. You need to find sorority alumnae who know you to ask them for a letter of recommendation. Please don't even say "But I don't know any women who are in a sorority." Yes, you do. Your mother does. You sit beside them in church or synagogue. They are your teachers and neighbors. ASK!
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Old 09-17-2018, 06:47 AM
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And they don't have to be alums of that school....just the sorority. Ask every adult female you know...employers(yours and your parents), teachers, coaches, neighbors, your friends' parents,etc. When you find one and they agree to write a rec, ask if they know anyone in the other groups you need. Greek women know other gGreek women.
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Old 09-17-2018, 07:02 AM
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Recommendation letters aren't needed at my school, should I still get them? Also if I don't know any of the girls because I am out of state how will I get current members to vouch for me?
Absolutely get them...see comments above, but yes, any alumnae of a sorority from any school can write your rec for you. They write them and they send them in. Do a search on this site to see if there is a recruitment thread for your particular school and then read the info there. I wish this had been around when I went through in the 80's...LOL...but the internet hadn't been invented back then!
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Old 09-17-2018, 10:00 AM
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Your teachers would be an amazing place to start looking for recs. The female teachers are college grads so some of them may have been in a sorority. Also, Panhellenic women know other Panhel women. Good luck!
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Old 09-18-2018, 09:38 PM
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Recommendation letters aren't needed at my school, should I still get them? Also if I don't know any of the girls because I am out of state how will I get current members to vouch for me?
Get the recs!! One for every single chapter. If you’re concerned about how the chapters will know about you, recs ARE how!! Start lining them up now - teachers, aunts, cousins, your friends’ moms & sisters, women you’ve babysat for or worked for, neighbors, etc.

As for getting to know the women on your campus, many schools have orientation or “freshman camps” over the summer so definitely go to them. At schools with camps, the “counselors” are all upperclassmen and many of them are Greek women. At orientation, stop by the Panhellenic booth if there is a day where you can preview activities and clubs. Dress nicely (not fancy but don’t look like you just rolled out of bed either) and be friendly to EVERYONE you interact. You never know when your campus tour guide is going to go back to her chapter and say “we have to check out this darling OOS girl who was in my tour group today!”
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Old 09-18-2018, 11:18 PM
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Will deff start looking for recs thank you! As for the 2nd part of my question. People I've talked to in the past and other posts I've seen on this site mostly say, knowing a current sorority member that goes to ur school will MAJORLY help ur chances of getting a bid so that they "can vouch for u". If i dont know any current members at my college won't this hurt my chances?!?!
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Old 09-18-2018, 11:22 PM
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Will deff start looking for recs thank you! As for the 2nd part of my question. People I've talked to in the past and other posts I've seen on this site mostly say, knowing a current sorority member that goes to ur school will MAJORLY help ur chances of getting a bid so that they "can vouch for u". If i dont know any current members at my college won't this hurt my chances?!?!
It just means that you have to make a good impression at the rush parties. There will be hundreds of other girls in the same situation. Chapters will pledge plenty of young women who have no connections. Quit obsessing over it. It is what it is. Don't get your heart set on a specific chapter and prepare what you can.
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Old 09-18-2018, 11:35 PM
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Will deff start looking for recs thank you! As for the 2nd part of my question. People I've talked to in the past and other posts I've seen on this site mostly say, knowing a current sorority member that goes to ur school will MAJORLY help ur chances of getting a bid so that they "can vouch for u". If i dont know any current members at my college won't this hurt my chances?!?!
I don’t think people expect an OOS freshman to know people in the chapters. That advice is more for sophomores or juniors who are rushing. They have had 1-2 years on campus to get to know women in sororities and so if they haven’t, it makes them look antisocial or uninvolved.
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Old 09-19-2018, 12:32 AM
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Will deff start looking for recs thank you! As for the 2nd part of my question. People I've talked to in the past and other posts I've seen on this site mostly say, knowing a current sorority member that goes to ur school will MAJORLY help ur chances of getting a bid so that they "can vouch for u". If i dont know any current members at my college won't this hurt my chances?!?!
Oh ok. Sorry about that - I can see how our advice there could be confusing for you. Like 33girl said, we are usually directing that advice more towards sophomores, juniors and seniors, especially when they are rushing for a second time. That advice *might* also apply to second semester freshmen who are rushing in the spring. But for a brand new freshman? Not as much.

When we say that you want members in the chapter who will "vouch for you", we don't really mean that one sorority member could sway the whole chapter in your favor because she met you during a campus tour. I can't get into specifics because our membership selection procedures are secret; but, one woman generally can't vouch for you and get you a bid. What we're really trying to say here is that, if some sorority women know you from a class, and you're always a friendly student, good contributor in class, etc, then it leaves a good impression and they will remember you well later when they see you at recruitment.

However, as a first-time out-of-state freshman, your only chances to interact ahead of time are at places like the sorority tables during the campus club fair during new student orientation or the first week of school. So, as TXDG said, one of the sorority members might remember you as that really nice girl that stopped by the club fair table.

I hope this helps!
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