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Old 04-18-2005, 12:25 PM
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Personally I dont think there is anything wrong with the 10 demands. Our rules are already at what he is demanding here at FSU. All of our recruitment activities are dry, no exceptions, we are held to higher standards, we are required to have fire and building code inspections, we are required to have academic advisors. I really dont think there is anything irrational about his demands, I for one actually support them.

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Old 04-20-2005, 12:28 AM
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"Maybe one of the Chico-ites can help us out...are the houses large enough to even accomodate a live-in adult?"

No. We have a hard enough time finding Alum to help us out because people don't tend to stick around Chico, let alone an "adult" who would be willing to sacrifice much of their time and attention to something like that. Also, most greek houses are rented, and range from 10-20 people per house.

"Aren't there members of the greek system over 21?"

I'm 22 and live in my sorority house. I think this idea is ridiculous. Sorry but i consider myself an adult. The faculty advisor idea is a good one, although it will be truly difficult as most of the faculty does not like greeks.

"I think there had to be some outside pressure on him to write this letter"

i think you meant speech. and yes of course he received pressure.

so I do not by any means represent my school or greek system, but here are some notes from a chico sorority girl and a person who sat in the front row during the speech (hehe):

I wanted to point out that this line: " We have to stop meeting like this. Truly, we must." was meant as a joke...in fact Zingg had to mention it was a joke because the audience was so paralyzed by his presence. But he laughed...anyway. He is a pretty scary speaker, and although i was upset with some of the things he said (" To the extent that you are now, you will no longer be drinking
clubs masquerading as fraternities and sororities." a pretty ignorant comment coming from a greek and a president of a university) I think he is trying his best to fix this situation.

at first i was mad - why do greeks get singled out all the time? then i talked to my mom and realized that its because we choose to make ourselves stand out and hold ourselves and each other to HIGHER standards. most average college students do crazy shit all the time and no one cares because they are AVERAGE. all Zingg is asking is for us to remember that we are above average college students (or should be), and i really hope we can deliver his promise.

I know there are steps being taken to kind of "flush" out the greek system. I can't get into specifics but things are changing DRAMATICALLY. Even with sorority rush, which let me tell you none of us are happy about. But there are some good changes too.

I also just wanted to add that i don't mind answering anyones questions about chico through PMs as long as you are respectful. Some things you might want to know but I wouldnt be willing to post for everyone to see. Just a thought.
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Old 04-20-2005, 12:45 AM
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Thanks for posting AlphaPhiBubbles. I really hope that the Greek system can not only save itself, but excel in ways that nobody expects from them! I'd look at it as a challenge "Let's show them just how great we can be!" and encourage your members to do the same. Greeks SHOULD be the best students on campus, helpful, philanthropic, friendly and fun to be around. You all need to believe in yourselves!

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Old 04-20-2005, 01:46 AM
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I agree with what AGDee just said, and I wish Chico Greeks the best.
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Old 04-20-2005, 12:29 PM
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His Ten demands are already the requirements of national sororities. (If I'm wrong let me know, but I know Sigma Kappa has to adhere to these policies). Are these demands out of the norm for fraternities? The only thing I saw in the demands that we don't adhere to at my school is an faculty advisor to help raise the GPA. Which isn't a bad idea. I am also curious how they are going to stop these underground organizations. Because really the university has no way to sanction them, besides as someone said earlier to not allow recognized Glo's to participate with them. It's just so sad to see an unrecognized fraternities actions taken out on all of greeklife ( I know there are other problems at chico within greeklife but nothing that would warrant abolishing greeklife). A fraternity shooting a porn movie happened at a chapter at my school at that fraternity lost their charter, but the rest of greek life was not punished for one chapters actions.
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Old 04-20-2005, 06:43 PM
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People keep asking about the "underground" fraternities...well let me clarify that really there was only one...at least only one that caused problems. And that would be Chi Tau.

I don't think Chi Tau will be a problem ever again. After Matthew's death, all but 2 of the members were evicted from the house. The windows are all boarded up and construction has already begun to remodel that house. (i wish i had a picture to show you how disgusting this house is.)

Reasons why Chi Tau was still around:
1) huge house with greek letters for parties. freshman came flocking to these.
2) alumni support from their Delta Sig alum. they owned the house and pretty much controlled the chapter. Chi Tau was, for a short while, trying to get back on IFC and gain national recognition. Its safe to say that will never happen.

Both of these things are gone now. No more "fraternity" house, alum will never support them again for what has happened. so no more renegade "frat".

Other than this, there are no underground groups right now. I am slightly worried that some may turn renegade, but in all honesty there is just no place for something like that in Chico. They wouldn't have the means to support themselves...it mostly has to do with living in a house but if thats gone then there usually isnt a problem. Key word being usually.

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Old 04-20-2005, 07:08 PM
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The ten regulations are also pretty commonplace here in Sacramento, except for the housing one because formal housing doesn't really happen here.

But I will agree with whomever said punish those organizations that have events with unrecognized or "renegade" organizations. We had a national organization kicked off campus about 3 years ago. However since their charter wasn't pulled (at the time, I don't know about it now) they still functioned normally and continued to recruit. NPC put out a rule that any NPC member or associate member that participated with this unrecognized organization would be fined... heavily. Wasn't a huge demand or diviant from the norm. You just weren't allowed to schedule activities with them as a greek organization. I think this also included parties they threw.
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Old 04-27-2005, 04:52 PM
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Chico IFC Expels Phi Kappa Tau and a Local, Recognizes Zeta Beta Tau

On Monday the Interfraternity Council at Chico tossed out the Phi Kappa Tau chapter and did the same to a local, Delta Psi Delta. In the same meeting the IFC voted to recognize Zeta Beta Tau, according to the local paper:

http://www.chicoer.com/Stories/0,141...838311,00.html
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Old 04-27-2005, 05:14 PM
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Originally posted by exlurker
Chico IFC Expels Phi Kappa Tau and a Local, Recognizes Zeta Beta Tau

On Monday the Interfraternity Council at Chico tossed out the Phi Kappa Tau chapter and did the same to a local, Delta Psi Delta. In the same meeting the IFC voted to recognize Zeta Beta Tau, according to the local paper:

http://www.chicoer.com/Stories/0,141...838311,00.html
Delta Psi Delta is a local at my school as well, with rumours of them wanting to go National, I'm guessing this will not help that very much.
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Old 04-27-2005, 07:57 PM
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Delta Psi Delta is a local at my school as well, with rumours of them wanting to go National, I'm guessing this will not help that very much.
It shouldn't have anything to do with it. If they don't have any connection with the local at Chico, it's simply a coincidence.
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Old 04-27-2005, 09:05 PM
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I'm almost positive that the two Delta Psi Delta groups are not related. It is most likely just a coincidence.
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Old 03-31-2006, 05:19 PM
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Chico Cancels Softball Season -- Alcohol Poisoning of Recruit

http://www.sacbee.com/content/news/s...15058000c.html

AlphaPhi Bubbles made an good point several months ago (see below) about Greeks feeling they get blamed too often, while other groups get away with problem behavior. In this case, California State - Chico is canceling its softball season because a 17 year old recruit ended up in the hospital for alcohol poisoning after going to a a party given by some of the softball team members. The investigation is continuing, and it sounds like 12 of the 18 team members may be facing disciplinary action of some kind, dependning on the degree of involvement.

I'm sure not happy about the incident, but I'm glad Chico isn't sweeping it under a rug. And it seems to reinforce the point that problems with alcohol aren't limited to Greeks by any means.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by AlphaPhiBubbles

. . . at first i was mad - why do greeks get singled out all the time? then i talked to my mom and realized that its because we choose to make ourselves stand out and hold ourselves and each other to HIGHER standards. most average college students do crazy shit all the time and no one cares because they are AVERAGE. all Zingg is asking is for us to remember that we are above average college students (or should be), and i really hope we can deliver his promise. . . .
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