Sorority Formal Shirt with Racist Image

[KSUViolet06]

Dear GC White folks,

Your privilege is showing.

Love,

Me

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

(DrPhil was so much better at explaining issues like this.)

1) It's a great article.
2) It's not really your job to educate white people, so thank you for your efforts.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

Dear GC White folks,

Your privilege is showing.

Love,

Me

Lol, especially when this shows up under the thread where everyone is crying "discrimination" because Harvard isn't letting Greeks captain teams.

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

1) It's a great article.
2) It's not really your job to educate white people, so thank you for your efforts.

No, it's not my job to educate white people. Sadly though, these incidents of racial insensitivity by white people keep happening. That is why I title my thread 'Know your American History'.

As long as some of the participants in this thread were being glib about the issue you, DBB, had no comment. Once you and anyone who reads through this thread were given a perspective on the topic that differed from the glib attitude,now you want to act offended.

[LaneSig]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

Dear GC White folks,

Your privilege is showing.

Love,

Me

In my opinion, the vast majority of "GC White folks" understand that the image is totally inappropriate.

[joliebelle]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

Dear GC White folks,

Your privilege is showing.

Love,

Me

QFT.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

No, it's not my job to educate white people. Sadly though, these incidents of racial insensitivity by white people keep happening. That is why I title my thread 'Know your American History'.

As long as some of the participants in this thread were being glib about the issue you, DBB, had no comment. Once you and anyone who reads through this thread were given a perspective on the topic that differed from the glib attitude,now you want to act offended.

Sorry, I didn't mean to say that you SHOULDN'T educate people if you wish to.

I was responding to the parenthetical where you noted that you are doing a worse job than Dr. Phil and pointing out that anything you are doing is above and beyond what is reasonable when it comes to educating people who obviously have an internet connection. You provided a great read on the topic.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by LaneSig

In my opinion, the vast majority of "GC White folks" understand that the image is totally inappropriate.

I haven't seen one person defend this image as potentially appropriate including the sorority whose shirt it was on. Some just want to go out of their way to be toxic whenever racial issues are brought up.

[LaneSig]

Originally Posted by Kevin

I haven't seen one person defend this image as potentially appropriate including the sorority whose shirt it was on. Some just want to go out of their way to be toxic whenever racial issues are brought up.

Neither have I. To be clear, when I first read KSUViolet's comment I thought she was making a broad sweeping generalization about the issue and about the opinions held

After reading it again, I'm thinking that she might have been referring to the comments by some posters making (in my opinion) snide comments about watermelon. If that is so, I am in agreement with her. However, with great respect to KSUViolet and her years on this board, I would never assume to speak for her- so I may be wrong about the whole thing.

[jolene]

I don't think anyone here would think that image was cool, but the thread veered toward watermelon and cotton being inherently racist.

[Hartofsec]

Originally Posted by LaneSig

For the record, I make my guys send me the t-shirt design first for approval before they send it to Greek Life. I have told them that they'd rather have me catch something inappropriate first before the University catches it. It's worked well so far.

Would your eye for the offensive tag the image of an Indian as inappropriate? I think this is one of Arkansas State's past images (lifting a scalp):




Just wondering, as your signature suggests that you find neither the term "Indian" nor the history of the mascot offensive or inappropriate:

I'll support the RedWolves, but in my heart I'll always be an ASU Indian. Go Tribe! (1931-2008)

I'm not an expert on the topic (I'm a "white folk"), and realize this has been a source of controversy surrounding teams in the sports realm, but I'm wondering, what would you consider an appropriate "Indian" image or use of the term on a t-shirt?

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[Kevin]

The subjects are two entirely different things. There are actually strong arguments on both sides of the pro vs. anti Indian mascot issue (and according to a Washington Post poll, around 9 in 10 natives do not find the Redskins moniker offensive). There's basically universal agreement on the watermelon thing. The issues aren't really comparable.

[Hartofsec]

Again, not an expert on mascots here, but I would assume that a depiction of any ethnicity as a cartoon savage might be considered universally offensive. Runnin' Joe was apparently dropped for that reason by Arkansas State.

Yet FWIW, Runnin' Joe lives on there:

[Kevin]

Are you just trolling now or is there some point to this?

[Hartofsec]

I'm not sure there was any point to anyone questioning whether "white folks" or anyone else considers the caricature on the ADPi t-shirt offensive.

Just asking LaneSig, as he opened the thread with:

Originally Posted by LaneSig

I wish that I could say that I'm shocked.

I was shocked that this image was found on a sorority shirt at Samford -- who wouldn't be? What was meant by that comment?

Just wondering how deep his sensitivities actually run -- unjustly suggesting that some "folks" on this thread don't understand the insensitive nature of the t-shirt image, while embracing the insensitive mascot history of his own alma mater.