GATech Fraternity Investigated for "Rapebait" Email

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by Woof

Regardless of the content (whatever its intention), I think it is sad that his brothers leaked this or showed other people, especially since it can get him and more importantly their chapter in lots of trouble. What happened to keeping things between brothers? I know that isn't the issue at hand, but that's always the first thing that pops into my mind when I see stuff like this.

Um, because he's essentially promoting rape, and maybe his brothers aren't cool with that?

Just a thought.

Besides, all it takes is one brother to show it to a friend, then the friend shows it to another friend, that friend is disgusted by it, he shows it to a member of another fraternity, that fraternity leaks it to everyone...

You get the idea.

Don't put in writing (and send out in a mass email) something you wouldn't want the whole world to see.

[ChioLu]

My work computer won't let me go to TFM.
Huffington Post picked up the story too: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/1...n_4063101.html

This Phi Kappa Tau chapter has a response on their website: http://gtphitau.org/

Side note: Georgia Tech is a university that attracts a large percentage of males due to it's Top 5 Engineering College. The ratio of men to women is about 5 males to every 1 female student. (I am, in no way, defending his behavior. Just adding the info as it may have factored into his mindset.)
Living in Atlanta for 10+ years, I always thought the GA Tech ratio was so strange, considering the single female to single male ratio for the city of Atlanta is the reverse -- 5 single women to every 1 single guy.

[Woof]

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

Um, because he's essentially promoting rape, and maybe his brothers aren't cool with that?

Just a thought.

Besides, all it takes is one brother to show it to a friend, then the friend shows it to another friend, that friend is disgusted by it, he shows it to a member of another fraternity, that fraternity leaks it to everyone...

You get the idea.

I don't disagree on how it could have possibly gotten out. But I can't agree with saying its okay to leak it and get your brother in trouble (nationally) because 'his brothers aren't cool with that'.

I'm not saying what he wrote is okay. But if you have a problem with something your brother did, you deal with it internally and not share it with the world. We are suppose to have our brother's back, and help him see the wrong and make him a better person afterwards. I'm just saying showing it to non-brothers is very unbrotherly. Maybe some of us take our oaths a little too seriously...

[ZTAngel]

Originally Posted by ChioLu

Side note: Georgia Tech is a university that attracts a large percentage of males due to it's Top 5 Engineering College. The ratio of men to women is about 5 males to every 1 female student.

I live in Atlanta and have heard this little saying about Georgia Tech from numerous female alumni of the school, "The odds are good, but the goods are odd." lol....my husband got his doctorate from Tech so this makes me laugh.

[HQWest]

Originally Posted by ZTAngel

I live in Atlanta and have heard this little saying about Georgia Tech from numerous female alumni of the school, "The odds are good, but the goods are odd." lol....my husband got his doctorate from Tech so this makes me laugh.

I had a student that transferred from there and I asked her why she transferred. She just said "I thought I could handle being that popular, and I just couldn't and still get any work done."

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by Woof

Regardless of the content (whatever its intention), I think it is sad that his brothers leaked this or showed other people, especially since it can get him and more importantly their chapter in lots of trouble. What happened to keeping things between brothers? I know that isn't the issue at hand, but that's always the first thing that pops into my mind when I see stuff like this.

Who says his brothers leaked it?

[Griffins&Quills]

Evidently he left is email open/logged in on a library computer where someone read the email. I also doubt that it was intended as a poor attempt at satire sadly.

[Woof]

Originally Posted by Griffins&Quills

Evidently he left is email open/logged in on a library computer where someone read the email. I also doubt that it was intended as a poor attempt at satire sadly.

If true, then I take back my opinion on this particular matter. Not others, though.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

Um, because he's essentially promoting rape, and maybe his brothers aren't cool with that?

Okay, it definitely objectifies women, but it definitely does not promote rape. It, in fact, tastelessly says, no raping. I'm not saying it was a great idea, but let's not read in things which aren't there.

[Griffins&Quills]

Originally Posted by ChioLu

Side note: Georgia Tech is a university that attracts a large percentage of males due to it's Top 5 Engineering College. The ratio of men to women is about 5 males to every 1 female student. (I am, in no way, defending his behavior. Just adding the info as it may have factored into his mindset.)
Living in Atlanta for 10+ years, I always thought the GA Tech ratio was so strange, considering the single female to single male ratio for the city of Atlanta is the reverse -- 5 single women to every 1 single guy.

The Georgia Tech ratio is about 3:1, not 5:1. However, I do agree that it could've factored into his mindset.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Okay, it definitely objectifies women, but it definitely does not promote rape. It, in fact, tastelessly says, no raping. I'm not saying it was a great idea, but let's not read in things which aren't there.

Referring to women as "rapebait" doesn't promote rape?

[TNAuburnMom]

When you have to explicitly tell your brothers not to rape, there might be a culture problem. Isn't that just a given for most people

Originally Posted by greekdee

He did himself in by signing off with "in luring rapebait," which overrode his earlier all caps instructions not to rape. That signature was all the media needed to label this the "rape email" and use it in their headlines.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Okay, it definitely objectifies women, but it definitely does not promote rape. It, in fact, tastelessly says, no raping. I'm not saying it was a great idea, but let's not read in things which aren't there.

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Referring to women as "rapebait" doesn't promote rape?

Exactly. Thank you.

This is like OJ Simpson saying he didn't kill anyone, then writing a book called 'If I Did It.' Guess what.. you're going to make yourself look guilty, even if you aren't. And yes, it sounds like he's promoting rape. And even if he isn't I'm obviously not the only person who interpreted it that way.

Referring to women as "rapebait" and sending an email to all of your friends calling them that is a quick way to get people to assume you're a rapist, or are at least ok with it. And a step-by-step instruction manual to getting "rapebait" into bed sounds to me like you're encouraging other people to do the same.

Be smarter, people. Seriously.

[Griffins&Quills]

Originally Posted by TNAuburnMom

When you have to explicitly tell your brothers not to rape, there might be a culture problem. Isn't that just a given for most people

Just to clarify, I don't believe it's a culture problem with the school. That particular fraternity, ehhhhh, possibly, I can't attest positively in one direction or another. But to lump all of the fraternities and sororities there makes the bad PR even worse for the rest of the greek system.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by Griffins&Quills

Just to clarify, I don't believe it's a culture problem with the school. That particular fraternity, ehhhhh, possibly, I can't attest positively in one direction or another. But to lump all of the fraternities and sororities there makes the bad PR even worse for the rest of the greek system.

Agreed.

And there's a good chance it's not even a problem among this fraternity, but rather, just this one member. After all, he did have to teach his chapter that dancing is fun and making out is "tongue on tongue"