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Old 08-30-2013, 11:54 PM
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For some of the older NPC sororities where there were chapters formed at small women's colleges/finishing schools that are smaller than any school that an NPC sorority would go to today.
There were only 4 groups doing extension between 1867 and 1881. Those four were Pi Beta Phi, Kappa Alpha Theta, Kappa Kappa Gamma, and Delta Gamma. Some of the early chapters did not survive for a variety of reasons. Sometimes it was because the institution ceased to exist. Extension was also willy-nilly. There really were no rules as we know them today. Both Pi Phi's and Kappa's Alpha chapters were forced off Monmouth's campus in 1884 and both groups continued to grow despite this loss.
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Old 08-31-2013, 12:32 AM
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What is NBH and FTW?

For lowest percentage closed, my guess would have been one of the NPHC ...don't they have almost 1000 chapters each?
Not every NPHC org has that many chapters. DST & AKA have the most and Iota Phi Theta has the least with over 300 chapters, but they are also the youngest org. We count both UG's & Alumnae in that chapter count, we do the same things so I guess I don't see a difference in that regard.

There are tons of elements in there, too, citywide chapters that split, schools that had a chapter and now don't, combined chapters (UG & Alumni/Alumnae) that split up, defunct grad chapters...That's a lot of history and math that I'm not messing with!
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Old 08-31-2013, 03:04 AM
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There were only 4 groups doing extension between 1867 and 1881. Those four were Pi Beta Phi, Kappa Alpha Theta, Kappa Kappa Gamma, and Delta Gamma. Some of the early chapters did not survive for a variety of reasons. Sometimes it was because the institution ceased to exist. Extension was also willy-nilly. There really were no rules as we know them today. Both Pi Phi's and Kappa's Alpha chapters were forced off Monmouth's campus in 1884 and both groups continued to grow despite this loss.
Yup, there are an awful lot of us who will never have our Alpha chapters back.
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Old 08-31-2013, 05:28 AM
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Yup, there are an awful lot of us who will never have our Alpha chapters back.
It's awful to lose any chapter, but having a dormant Alpha chapter is especially hard.

Kappa and Pi Phi were lucky; it took decades, but both chapters were welcomed back in the late 1920s and early 1930s. I suspect this was due in part to the wife of the president, Minnie McDill McMichael, being a Pi Phi.
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Old 09-01-2013, 04:38 PM
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I seem to recall NBH crunching the numbers a few years ago, which leads me to believe the answer is Chi Omega, at least among NPC's.
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NutBrnHr (a GC poster who has trouble being objective).
"Smallest % of charters active," no I never # crunched that one. I did start a thread about how many single-letter-chapters were still active.

What does 33girl think I'm supposed to be, a journalist?
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Old 09-03-2013, 02:51 PM
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that's interesting....does anyone know who has the highest percent active of all Greek organizations? I wouldn't even know where to begin looking for information like this
Not looking for trouble here, simply hoping I can answer correctly...Kappa Kappa Gamma has, in my own estimation from number-crunching only the 26 NPC groups, the highest percentage of open chapters from their entire list of chapters.
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Old 09-03-2013, 03:07 PM
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Not looking for trouble here, simply hoping I can answer correctly...Kappa Kappa Gamma has, in my own estimation from number-crunching only the 26 NPC groups, the highest percentage of open chapters from their entire list of chapters.
I don't doubt it, but what are those numbers?
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Old 09-03-2013, 03:34 PM
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Not current info, but here's a list:

Source: "Baird's Manual," Nineteenth Edition, 1977

NPC group: Collegiate chapters active/inactive
  1. Alpha Chi Omega: 110/17
  2. Alpha Delta Pi: 132/25
  3. Alpha Epsilon Phi: 32/37
  4. Alpha Gamma Delta: 115/11
  5. Alpha Omicron Pi: 86/36
  6. Alpha Phi: 107/17
  7. Alpha Sigma Alpha: 51/45
  8. Alpha Sigma Tau: 36/18
  9. Alpha Xi Delta: 111/44
  10. Chi Omega: 167/9
  11. Delta Delta Delta: 119/23
  12. Delta Gamma: 100/25
  13. Delta Phi Epsilon: 29/28
  14. Delta Zeta: 181/63
  15. Gamma Phi Beta: 89/18
  16. Kappa Alpha Theta: 96/23
  17. Kappa Delta: 112/50
  18. Kappa Kappa Gamma: 100/15
  19. Phi Mu: 118/44
  20. Phi Sigma Sigma: 34/24
  21. Pi Beta Phi: 113/27
  22. Sigma Delta Tau: 28/31
  23. Sigma Kappa: 100/45
  24. Sigma Sigma Sigma: 72/31
  25. Theta Phi Alpha: 10/27
  26. Zeta Tau Alpha: 134/40
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Old 09-03-2013, 03:40 PM
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Good to know that 36 years ago, Chi Omega had the fewest closed chapters.

(I know you prefaced your post that it wasn't current info, but LOL!)
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Old 09-03-2013, 03:44 PM
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Don't die, blue... you're in the History Forum.
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Old 09-03-2013, 04:03 PM
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FWIW, I pulled the most up to date Kappa chapter listing from our website and saved it in a spreadsheet. In our history, we have chartered 162 chapters, and 22 of those are inactive, which is about 13.6%. We will soon be chartering THREE new chapters at Wichita State, Georgetown, and Elmhurst.

I have no idea how this compares to any other NPC or how to get any other NPC's info, but I was trying to provide current info for Cheerio's claim.

If anyone wants the spreadsheet, PM me.

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Old 09-03-2013, 04:14 PM
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Just stating in advance that I don't have the full numbers for all NPC sororities. Numbers are from (inter)national websites if possible. Otherwise from Irishpipes' thread A lot of NPC sororities don't openly name inactive chapters, so information may not be up to date or severely incorrect. Please post correct information if this list isn't accurate, and I'll update.

Active/total chartered (closed) as of sept. 3 2013

Alpha Chi Omega: 137/184 (47) 25.54%
Alpha Delta Pi: 146/209 (63) 30.14%
Alpha Epsilon Phi: 53/153 (100) 65.36%
Alpha Gamma Delta: 126/195 (69) 35.38%
Alpha Omicron Pi: 124/199 (75) 37.69%
Alpha Phi: 157/208 (51) 24.52%
Alpha Sigma Alpha: 105/150 (45) 30%
Alpha Sigma Tau: 96/133 (37) 27.82%
Alpha Xi Delta: 121/212 (91) 42.92%
Chi Omega: 179/ 230 (51) 22.17%
Delta Delta Delta: 138/189 (51) 26.98%
Delta Gamma: 146/190 (44) 23.16%
Delta Phi Epsilon: 89/164 (75) 45.73%
Delta Zeta: 158/ 297 (139) 46.8%
Gamma Phi Beta: 129/176 (47) 26.7%
Kappa Alpha Theta: 133/174 (41) 23.56%
Kappa Delta: 149/ 222 (73) 32.88%
Kappa Kappa Gamma: 140/162 (22) 13.58%
Phi Mu: 117/ 211 (94) 44.55%
Phi Sigma Sigma: 108/182 (74) 40.66%
Pi Beta Phi: 134/188 (54) 28.72%
Sigma Delta Tau: 62 /103 (41) 39.8%
Sigma Kappa: 115/211 (96) 45.5%
Sigma Sigma Sigma: 112/189 (77) 40.74%
Theta Phi Alpha: 53/98 (45) 45.92%
Zeta Tau Alpha: 162/215 (53) 24.65%

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Old 09-03-2013, 04:57 PM
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heh.

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Not looking for trouble here, simply hoping I can answer correctly...Kappa Kappa Gamma has, in my own estimation from number-crunching only the 26 NPC groups, the highest percentage of open chapters from their entire list of chapters.
I believe you are correct! One day when I was procrastinating something, I did this compare for the NPC groups based on various sources (wikipedia, HQ websites, GC posts, etc--so it's not apples to apples) and IIRC, Kappa was far away the leader in terms of the smallest percentage of closed chapters. (And yes, realize I'm a humongous loser for doing this in my spare time!)

I don't remember which NPC had the highest percentage of closed chapters and sadly I didn't save the spreadsheet.

According to the numbers I have, Alpha Xi Delta has 121 open chapters, which includes 3 colonies in Fall 2013. There are currently 212 chapters that have been established.

We also have 4 colonies (2 new, 2 recolonizations) opening between Spring 2013-Fall 2016, so by end of Fall 2016 that number should be 125 out of 214.

Pretty proud of my org's recent expansion success, considering when I joined 5 years ago we had 112 open chapters out of 206.
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Old 09-03-2013, 05:17 PM
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Look at that Alpha Phi figure! 148 out of 155! Wow!
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Old 09-03-2013, 06:08 PM
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I hate to rain on the Alpha Phi parade, but I used CTRL+F to search through IrishPipes' list of chapters and roughly counted 49 closed Alpha Phi chapters. It's definitely more than 7.
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