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Old 03-29-2020, 11:55 PM
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Rebellion/significant conflict within GLOs.

I was looking at the current situations at Delta Phi Epsilon Foreign Service Professional and was thinking about situations where a multiple chapters (as a group) or an otherwise significant part of a Greek Letter Organization rebelled against National Leadership. (These entries are definitely not identical)

The ones that spring to mind are:
* Delta Sigma Theta's founding from those originally part of the undergraduate membership of Alpha Kappa Alpha in 1913.
* Phi Sigma Epsilon - Phi Sigma Phi was founded by chapters of Phi Sigma Epsilon which declined to participate in the 1987 National merger of Phi Sigma Epsilon into Phi Sigma Kappa.
* Tau Epsilon Phi in the late 2000s and early 2010s where among other things the National Executive director claimed that no chapters were eligible to vote. Eventually a judge forced new elections.
* Alpha Phi Omega (Service) three chapters previously allowed to stay all-male due to be grandfathered in at the time fraternity going co-ed leave to form Alpha Delta when the exemption from having to be co-ed is removed. A few others previously exempted groups joined them later. (2006)
* Delta Phi Epsilon (Professional) multiple chapters callling for the resignation of the Fraternity General Secretary, etc. and no longer recognizing the national Leadership (late 2010s)

I'm sure there are others, and probably led to some Greek Letter Organizations *complete* coming apart...
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Old 04-01-2020, 06:59 PM
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I can think of three NPHC organizations that have had conflict significant enough to land them in the Washington Post or (at the time) major blogs:

Org #1 (two incidents)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...081502589.html

https://www.hbcusports.com/forums/th...eblower.56984/

Org #2: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/alpha...dit-_n_1376067

Org #3: https://atlantablackstar.com/2012/07...er-leadership/

Although each issue was contentious, I don't believe any of them to be existential issues.
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Old 09-20-2020, 05:27 PM
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In the 1960s, Sigma Nu's Dartmouth chapter withdrew from the national organization over segregation. Here's a link that'll do it more justice than I can:
https://www.thedartmouth.com/article...roy-or-rebuild
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Old 09-20-2020, 07:40 PM
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This happened in ASA. Our former national prez wrote a really good and detailed article, if I get time I’ll dig up a link although I think there might already be one on here.

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...aw#post2189440

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In the 1960s, Sigma Nu's Dartmouth chapter withdrew from the national organization over segregation. Here's a link that'll do it more justice than I can:
https://www.thedartmouth.com/article...roy-or-rebuild
A bunch of different GLOs at Dartmouth have withdrawn from their national organizations over the years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dartmo..._organizations
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Old 09-21-2020, 01:56 AM
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A bunch of different GLOs at Dartmouth have withdrawn from their national organizations over the years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dartmo..._organizations
I believe that I went through the page once and found that more of the GLOs at Dartmouth in the 1950s and 1960s withdrew or threatened to withdraw over allowing all races/colors/creeds than didn't...
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Old 09-21-2020, 11:04 AM
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I'm not a DU but I know it has had significant issues almost since it was founded with frequent internal rebellions. A former colleague who once worked at DU HQ for a couple years told me they supposedly have contingency plans in place specifically to crush chapter rebellions when they occur due to the historic issues they've experienced.

The Delta Upsilon Wikipedia page has an entire section on "secessionist chapters" including an instance when DU's Harvard chapter claimed DU had ceased to exist in 1909 so it was no longer obligated to obey National.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_...onist_chapters
Actually the information on wikipedia in regards to what happened with Brown University is even more wild.

The turbulence the Greek system experienced in the middle 20th century began for Delta Upsilon in 1956. That year's sitting of the Undergraduate Convention was dissolved by emergency action of DU leadership to "prevent open dissension" in the wake of the election of an African-American as president of the Brown University chapter. The election had been denounced by a number of the fraternity's new southern chapters.[26]

More information (which disagrees a *little* from the Wikipedia article) can be found in the Cornerstone (which serves as the equivalent to a pledge manual for new associate Delta Upsilon members) at https://issuu.com/deltaupsilon/docs/...orwebsite_2018 pages 42-44. The information in the Cornerstone indicates that the Fraternity has dealt with the issue in its history as well as I can imagine, including having said Brown University chapter president speaking at a later convention and creating a National Award in his name.
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