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Old 08-01-2020, 06:18 PM
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As a Pi Phi alum, I love that they gave each chapter to ability to decide what is best for their own chapter. One size does not fit all and I think this helps recognize that.
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Old 08-01-2020, 06:56 PM
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Yes. ^^
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Old 08-02-2020, 03:41 AM
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Wait, so... doesn't this policy simply say: chapters can choose to recruit legacies in any way they want?

How is this any different from eliminating a national "leg up" legacy policy altogether?

And people think there should be another option: eliminating the first invitational-round courtesy but keeping the top of the bid list option...

So what's to stop a chapter from reporting option #3 to the national org (treating all PNMs the same, regardless of legacy status), but putting legacies on the top of the bid list if they make it to preference?

It seems to me like Pi Phi has seen the fallout from other orgs and is trying to dress up the same change as something else to appease their members.

Unless I'm reading this wrong? ::shrugs::
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Old 08-02-2020, 09:22 AM
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Actually, nothing will stop any chapter (even the ones with the new policy) from following the old policy. Membership selection is rarely publicized.
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Old 08-02-2020, 10:34 PM
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Actually, nothing will stop any chapter (even the ones with the new policy) from following the old policy. Membership selection is rarely publicized.
Right. So again, what's the difference?

If I'm reading this right, both Pi Phi and the other orgs who have gotten rid of their national legacy policies are all saying the same thing: we're leaving it up to the individual chapters.
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If the chapter chooses one of the old legacy options, they will be held to it if a mad mama calls because her daughter wasn't on the first bid list. They won't be if they choose the newer option.
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Actually, nothing will stop any chapter (even the ones with the new policy) from following the old policy. Membership selection is rarely publicized.
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If the chapter chooses one of the old legacy options, they will be held to it if a mad mama calls because her daughter wasn't on the first bid list. They won't be if they choose the newer option.
So if membership selection is rarely publicized, then that means mad mama wouldn't know which system the chapter is following, correct? So what justification would she have for being mad? Unless Pi Phi plans on publicizing which chapters are following which option?

And is the only goal with these policies to allow mad mamas to berate chapters when their daughters aren't selected for membership? If so, it seems like a policy that isn't worth supporting. ::shrugs::
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Of course they'll know which policy they're following.
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Of course they'll know which policy they're following.
Of course? Why? Curious.

Does Pi Phi intend to disseminate this information for each chapter to all alumnae?
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Probably so.
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I don't disagree that there's much more to be done to foster a diverse membership, but I still think legacy preferential treatment is unfair.
In the very early 1990s NPC groups were also grappling with the issue of diversity, although not to the intense extent of today's concerns and demands. Recent readings of online-archived NPC magazines from that era confirmed what I remember of that era, when I served several area collegiate chapters.

Personally, I think many sorority chapters have long given healthy promotion to being as diverse as possible given the choice of some WOC preferring not to be a member of an NPC group [as carnation and others here on GC describe].
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