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06-10-2001, 09:55 PM
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Originally posted by AlphaChiGirl:
I learned that a lot of people think that it is very easy for a black female to "just join" an NPHC group. I was having dinner with some friends. One is in a coed literary society, and the rest just became familiar with Greek life since arriving at college. We started discussing NPHC groups, and they were like, "you mean, black females aren't guaranteed admission?". I thought it was funny indeed.
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No, matter of fact I believe that it is harder in general. That's why I chose to rush for a NPC sorority over an NPHC one. Visiting the AKA board reinforced that belief.
What made you think that? Just curious.
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06-10-2001, 09:55 PM
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What are you about? NO I am lead to believe that your anger stems from being "pigeonholed" into joining a minority organization. Is that correct? You should have enlightened this young lady that your interests might also stem to NPC sororities and not just NPHC.
As McCoyred and others have correctly stated, aligning NPC and NPHC sororities' rush/intake processes won't work on many levels. Instead there should be activities that take place, i.e. Community Service that are inter NPC & NPHC. That is the way bridges will be crossed.
At Wittenberg, there was Greek Week and sometimes the Kappas would join in as a team with the NPC/IFC orgs. True unity means working to address the needs of ALL people.
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06-10-2001, 10:03 PM
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well, apparently she was on the right track. didn't you say in one of your earlier posts that you recently disaffiliated from your sorority?
regardless of race, color or creed, i think we, as members of sororities, pretty much know who is going to fit well where. sometimes there are a few that surprise us, but most of the time we're pretty well on.
[This message has been edited by 12dn94dst (edited June 10, 2001).]
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06-10-2001, 10:05 PM
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Originally posted by SH80:
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No, matter of fact I believe that it is harder in general. That's why I chose to rush for a NPC sorority over an NPHC one. Visiting the AKA board reinforced that belief.
What made you think that? Just curious.
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Uhh...if you had actually READ my post, you would have realized that I KNOW that it is more difficult to join an NPHC organization than an NPC.
Before you reply to a post, it usually helps to READ the post.
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06-10-2001, 10:06 PM
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Originally posted by CrimsonTide4:
What are you about? NO I am lead to believe that your anger stems from being "pigeonholed" into joining a minority organization. Is that correct? You should have enlightened this young lady that your interests might also stem to NPC sororities and not just NPHC.
As McCoyred and others have correctly stated, aligning NPC and NPHC sororities' rush/intake processes won't work on many levels. Instead there should be activities that take place, i.e. Community Service that are inter NPC & NPHC. That is the way bridges will be crossed.
At Wittenberg, there was Greek Week and sometimes the Kappas would join in as a team with the NPC/IFC orgs. True unity means working to address the needs of ALL people.
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She knew better, I was in the process in quitting ZTA (NPC), when I asked her that.
I guess she thought I wasn't happy in that sorority because it was "white" and referred me to DST and ZPB. That couldn't be further from the truth.
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06-10-2001, 10:09 PM
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Originally posted by AlphaChiGirl:
Uhh...if you had actually READ my post, you would have realized that I KNOW that it is more difficult to join an NPHC organization than an NPC.
Before you reply to a post, it usually helps to READ the post.
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Well, excuse me! That was the way I interpreted it.
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06-10-2001, 10:33 PM
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I think that this, , stems from the fact that even if the girl had not of known that she deactivated or whatever, SH80 was maybe like a freshman, the girl shouldnt have automatically assumed that just because she is balck she would want to go NHPC.
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06-10-2001, 11:40 PM
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Originally posted by UMgirl:
I the girl shouldnt have automatically assumed that just because she is black she would want to go NHPC.
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Ah, as Felix Unger so eloquently said,
"When we assume, we make an ASS out of U and ME."
[This message has been edited by 33girl (edited June 10, 2001).]
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06-11-2001, 01:35 AM
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33girl......exactly
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06-11-2001, 02:05 AM
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this is just a disclaimer....
getting into an NPHC organization IS harder than getting into NIC/NPC organizations. we dont have rules about legacies, or house quotas, or recruit members...
but that should NEVER be a reason not to pursue membership in an NPHC organization!!!! If XYZ organization is in you heart and you wholeheartedly agree with the principles of the organization, you should go for it!!! never choose another organization (or career path, or school...) JUST because you think its an "easy" way in.. THAT'S A COP OUT!
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06-11-2001, 02:21 AM
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also.....
i agree with whoever said that we should have a GENERAL greek informational where students get to see ALL the greek organizations and get basic information.
but a combined "rush" would never work for 2 reasons:
1. the rules in regards to potential, new and existing membership differ between the councils - NPHC, NIC, NPC..... (ie quotas, recruitment....)
2. although the general rules in regards to membership are the same within the divine 9, all 9 of the organization have their own MIP (membership intake process), so even within our OWN council we cant all do intake together let alone with all the other greeks.
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06-11-2001, 08:52 AM
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Originally posted by mccoyred:
AS STATED AD NAUSEUM, GLOS (NPC/IFC) AND BGLOS (NPHC) ARE FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT!!
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Can I get a big "ditto" here?
SH80 -- is there anyone that you HAVEN'T tried to insult yet? Oh - let me guess - you're just trying to keep it light --
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06-11-2001, 10:42 AM
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let's just clear up a few inaccuracies. first, the black women voluntarily withdrew from rush after the 1st round. secondly, she did not file any charges against the sorority or the university. the statements were made by a member of the chapter that was supposedly privy to the conversations where race was concerned. the university did not make any attempt to tell any chapter who to bid or not bid. only after a member of the chapter came forward with the claims of racial discrimination did the university get involved because to deny anyone membership soley based on race is not only wrong but illegal. the decision came out the way that it did because all of the 'evidence' was based on heresay not because of the 'white rush' and 'black rush'. our systems are separated by PROCESS not color. there are members of various racial and ethnic backgrounds in each system. but, it does much more harm than good when people come in here and make sweeping generalizations about a campus and a situation that they know nothing about. in short, please get your facts straight before you get on the net and put someone's chapter or school on blast!
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06-11-2001, 11:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by dstbrat:
our systems are separated by PROCESS not color. there are members of various racial and ethnic backgrounds in each system. but, it does much more harm than good when people come in here and make sweeping generalizations about a campus and a situation that they know nothing about. in short, please get your facts straight before you get on the net and put someone's chapter or school on blast!
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Wow -- this bag of "DITTO's" sure is big!!
Good job, dstbrat!
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06-11-2001, 03:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by AlphaChiGirl:
I learned that a lot of people think that it is very easy for a black female to "just join" an NPHC group. I was having dinner with some friends. One is in a coed literary society, and the rest just became familiar with Greek life since arriving at college. We started discussing NPHC groups, and they were like, "you mean, black females aren't guaranteed admission?". I thought it was funny indeed.
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Hmmmmmm....strange that someone would think that being that it doesn't work that way for white women looking to join NPC sororities. Interesting.
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