Kansas State great for greeks

[Erik P Conard]

K-State. one of two of the first Morrill Grant schools (Penn State the other) has a wonderful greek system. Housing good, the girls'
groups all 115 or more. Ten fraternities had top awards from their
nationals. Much local respect. Theta Chi and boy Pi Phis have done a great job going on KU; ZTA has dead chapter at KSU, so
does Tri Sigma. A Phi and DG never been there. Wonderful place
for Sig Tau, Phi Sig Kappa (dead). Very few inactive ones, though.
Consider Kansas State University, Manhattan...it is a goodie, might be best in old "Big 8" You all are missing out by not being on this campus...bug your extension folk...good place to be. We
carp about unfriendly campi for the greeks...Well, troops, this is
certainly NOT the case here...Y'all come

[asigslifeforme]

i can vouch ... and it has aggiville ... the happy purple place ... go kats\

[exlurker]

EC (hey, welcome back!) makes some good points. Incidentally, Kansas State has a recent news release about its Beta Theta Pi chapter, which recently earned some of Beta's highest awards:

http://www.mediarelations.ksu.edu/WE...tapi83105.html

I agree that K-State has a generally well-respected Greek system. On one point, though, I'd part company with EC a little -- I'd be cautious about encouraging NPC sorority expansion there quite yet.

Despite having quite a few old, strong and well-regarded sorority chapters, Kansas State can, I think, be a pretty brutal place when it comes to new sororities on the block. In the past 35 years these sororities have been colonized, chartered, and then closed:

Delta Zeta

Sigma Sigma Sigma

Alpha Gamma Delta.

In addition, one sorority closed in the 1990s, but has returned. In all cases, the primary reason for the closures was low numbers.

And, as EC mentioned, ZTA was there, but closed around 1940/41, a victim of the Depression, most likely.

[ISUKappa]

The Gamma Alpha chapter of Kappa Kappa Gamma won Most Outstanding Chapter at the 2004 Convention, plus numerous awards at the Zeta Province convention in February of this year.

All the Gamma Alpha Kappas I've met have been exemplary women.

I think along with Mizzou, K-State is probably one of the few Midwestern Greek communities (especially with regards to sororities) that is similar to the South in terms of strength, recruitment and tradition.

[Erik P Conard]

Black groups have come to K-State, quietly, and gone the same;
the sororities who've folded have generally done so as a result
of a poor colonization. Forgot to mention others who'd likely do
well, like Alpha Sigma Phi. Many absent ones would thrive, like circle-bar-x (Theta Chi), et al.
And often existing groups will build a ne house when the old is good, can snapped up by others who'll shoot up at once in
terms of size, like Lambda Chi, Delta Chi. Generally the ones
who've folded did so from either lack of service or poor rushing.
No excuse for having one die here. Also, Beta is a great chapter
but only one of MANY great chapters here...TKE has been IM champ 17 of 18 years, for example; SAE perennial power, and it
is hard to get anyone to name top chapter, as there are so many.
No excuse for failure here if desire to succeed is present. Repeat,
this is a great place...Administration not limpdicks at K-State. and
perennial rival, KU good system but very snooty...Beta has been
scholarship king since lord-knows-when on the beautiful campus.

[exlurker]

Originally posted by ISUKappa
. . . .

All the Gamma Alpha Kappas I've met have been exemplary women. . . .

I agree.

And tangentially related to your mention of Gamma Alpha's recognition by KKG -- just a few years ago the K-State chapter (Kansas Beta) of Pi Beta Phi was recognized as the top Pi Phi chapter in the country.

[ZZ-kai-]

The Beta's at KSU just won the John Reily Knox Award (three time recipient) - the highest award given to any Beta chapter. This year, nine of our chapters won it, so as you can see, it's not easy to get.

Beta took 5th in grades this year I believe and won Intramurals.

This is their site, very informative:

KSU Beta's

[Tom Earp]

While to some, Kansas State Un. is on The Plains of Kansas, it is not.

It has some of The Finest Chapters of many Great Greek Organizations and all have won many National awards.

They have Beautiful Houses that are being constantly updated and continually show what the Stuff they are made of

They represent the best of all of us and I respect them for that.

[mmcat]

good for them....

[irishpipes]

Originally posted by Erik P Conard
[ZTA has dead chapter at KSU, so
does Tri Sigma. A Phi and DG never been there. ...Y'all come [/B]

So, are you actively recruiting Alpha Phi and DG, or are you also interested in the 9 other NPCs that you didn't mention?

(AEPhi, AOII, ASA, AST, DPhiE, SDT, Phi Mu, Phi Sigs, TPA)

Edited to add 2 other NPCs

[KSUViolet06]

Kansas State is actually one of my DREAM re-colonizations for Sigma.

[Erik P Conard]

I am not recruiting for anyone and am simply an old alum who is
interested in history. HOWEVER...I certainly would give a hefty preference to previous groups...like Tri Sigma, ZTA, et al. who have been on the campus previously, and would likely prefer to
have others who've demonstrated a modicum of success in the
Sunflower state. The omitted ones have not, but were left out
simply because I did not think of them...that's all. There are a few
men's groups for one reason or another I did not mention; the
citations of Theta Chi and Pi Kappa Phi were made out of regard for their present operation. Nothing, though, intended to 'recruit'
was intended, and all would certainly be welcome. I do not think
the so-called multi-cultural groups would fare well at K-State as
Manhattan seems to be quite open to all as it is now.

[irishpipes]

Hey EC, I'm not trying to pick a fight. I know that is how things work. I am just thinking that some smaller groups wonder how they can get on these larger campuses, and they can't if the preference is always given to the larger national groups. I would argue that one of the groups you mentioned does not have any notable strength in Kansas (no offense to them), but is just better known nationally than some of the other NPCs. (In fact they have relatively recently closed at KU, as has mine.)

I know that groups need to show local alumnae support in order to be chosen for colonization, and I am glad that many campuses give preference to groups with existing charters. This does, however, further the vicious cycle that the big just get bigger. But who said all was fair in life or the NPC? Just random thoughts.

[Kevlar281]

Originally posted by Erik P Conard
boy Pi Phis have done a great job going on KU

It's not boy Pi Phis it's Pi Phi for Guys. Put downs need to be catchy so they can catch on a national level. Why anyone would call us that in a post that is supposed to in all accounts compliment our success at K State is beyond me.

[FSUZeta]

just like in formal recruitment, it all comes down to appeal. when groups make presentation for consideration to colonize at a campus, the existing panhellenic, specific administrators of the campus and others attend information presentations by the groups invited there. i would think that things considered would be how well that group would fit onto the campus, what their plan of action is, alumni support and recognition among others.

when npc learns of a panhellenic opening a notice is sent to all npc members and the member organizations, if they are interested, can send material to that panhellenic for consideration. the panhellenic reviews the information, takes a vote and the top "x" are invited to make presentations.