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08-30-2013, 01:39 PM
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Smallest percentage of charters active?
This sort of goes with History, since it is Membership at a Macro scale.
I was looking at the Chapter roll ( http://www.tep.org/chapters/chapter-roll) and active chapter list ( http://www.tep.org/chapters/active-chapters) for Tau Epsilon Phi
Right now of 140 charters that Tau Epsilon Phi has granted, 14 are active, so only 10% of the chapters are active. Does anyone know whether any current members of the NIC, NPC or NPHC have (or had) a lower percentage?
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08-30-2013, 02:29 PM
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Didn't TEP have huge legal problems a year or so ago when the membership effectively sued the governing body? I'm sure that greatly impacted their active chapter roll.
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08-30-2013, 02:58 PM
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Didn't TEP have huge legal problems a year or so ago when the membership effectively sued the governing body? I'm sure that greatly impacted their active chapter roll.
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I think their percentage was low prior to the lawsuit.
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08-30-2013, 05:25 PM
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I think their percentage was low prior to the lawsuit.
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They were, but the legal issues existed for a long long time.
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08-30-2013, 05:41 PM
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They were, but the legal issues existed for a long long time.
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Huge mismanagement of nfp funds and the Board was dealing in the mismanagement too. Some Chapters went local in order to deal with the situation before the law suit.
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08-30-2013, 05:48 PM
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that's interesting....does anyone know who has the highest percent active of all Greek organizations? I wouldn't even know where to begin looking for information like this
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08-30-2013, 10:05 PM
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Yes, TEP had some severe problems with their National Executive Director and other leadership (See http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/22/ny...frat.html?_r=0) among other things they went 10 years without an election for the National Board because the NED said that *no* chapters were eligible to vote because none had fulfilled their financial obligations. Some chapters did bail rather than paying humungous amounts that the National Office said they owed...
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08-30-2013, 10:08 PM
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For some of the older NPC sororities where there were chapters formed at small women's colleges/finishing schools that are smaller than any school that an NPC sorority would go to today.
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08-30-2013, 11:54 PM
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For some of the older NPC sororities where there were chapters formed at small women's colleges/finishing schools that are smaller than any school that an NPC sorority would go to today.
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There were only 4 groups doing extension between 1867 and 1881. Those four were Pi Beta Phi, Kappa Alpha Theta, Kappa Kappa Gamma, and Delta Gamma. Some of the early chapters did not survive for a variety of reasons. Sometimes it was because the institution ceased to exist. Extension was also willy-nilly. There really were no rules as we know them today. Both Pi Phi's and Kappa's Alpha chapters were forced off Monmouth's campus in 1884 and both groups continued to grow despite this loss.
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08-31-2013, 03:04 AM
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There were only 4 groups doing extension between 1867 and 1881. Those four were Pi Beta Phi, Kappa Alpha Theta, Kappa Kappa Gamma, and Delta Gamma. Some of the early chapters did not survive for a variety of reasons. Sometimes it was because the institution ceased to exist. Extension was also willy-nilly. There really were no rules as we know them today. Both Pi Phi's and Kappa's Alpha chapters were forced off Monmouth's campus in 1884 and both groups continued to grow despite this loss.
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Yup, there are an awful lot of us who will never have our Alpha chapters back.
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08-31-2013, 05:28 AM
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Yup, there are an awful lot of us who will never have our Alpha chapters back.
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It's awful to lose any chapter, but having a dormant Alpha chapter is especially hard.
Kappa and Pi Phi were lucky; it took decades, but both chapters were welcomed back in the late 1920s and early 1930s. I suspect this was due in part to the wife of the president, Minnie McDill McMichael, being a Pi Phi.
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08-30-2013, 10:46 PM
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What is NBH and FTW?
For lowest percentage closed, my guess would have been one of the NPHC ...don't they have almost 1000 chapters each?
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08-30-2013, 11:10 PM
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NutBrnHr (a GC poster who has trouble being objective).
For The Win (your post was spot on).
They have over 1000 chapters each, but those include undergraduate and graduate chapters.
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08-30-2013, 11:31 PM
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What is NBH and FTW?
For lowest percentage closed, my guess would have been one of the NPHC ...don't they have almost 1000 chapters each?
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NutBrnHr (a GC poster who has trouble being objective).
For The Win (your post was spot on).
They have over 1000 chapters each, but those include undergraduate and graduate chapters.
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There's that, but there have also been occasions in Alpha where chapters have have been chartered at a school, closed shortly thereafter for low (or even nonexistent) enrollment of eligible men, moved to another campus (our Delta Chapter did this), and then a second chapter is chartered at the first school.
Or a charter that has been revoked for risk management issues and then a brand new chapter is chartered there with a new name (SMU).
Or a metropolitan (city-wide) chapter that grows and splits off into separate chapters.
Because of cases like that, I'd really have no clue how to even count. Nor would I be very interested in doing so in the first place. No shade.
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09-01-2013, 04:38 PM
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I seem to recall NBH crunching the numbers a few years ago, which leads me to believe the answer is Chi Omega, at least among NPC's.
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NutBrnHr (a GC poster who has trouble being objective).
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"Smallest % of charters active," no I never # crunched that one. I did start a thread about how many single-letter-chapters were still active.
What does 33girl think I'm supposed to be, a journalist?
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