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Old 01-09-2018, 08:56 AM
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"Some Physicality" (Pi Delta Phi lawsuit)

In regards to the story about Pi Delta Psi being banned from the State of Pennsylvania, there is a quote from the attorney for the Fraternity.

The fraternity's "Crossing Over" initiation rituals "involved some physicality, but they certainly did not involve the level of physicality, the level of inhumanity, and the depravity of the individuals who are also coming before the court," he said.

I'm curious what "some physicality" consists of.


I know an Alpha Phi Omega brother that is in a powered wheelchair that she directs with her feet. I'm pretty sure that she wouldn't have been able to handle "some physicality" in an initiation ritual, so I'm wondering whether she (or a man in the same situation) would be able to join Pi Delta Psi, or other fraternities and sororities.
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Old 01-09-2018, 05:48 PM
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As I said in the other thread, if it is true that this organization actually published its ritual involving physical hazing, "some physicality," then they shouldn't exist as an organization unless they seriously address that. They are a liability to FSL groups everywhere. We all know how difficult a road it has been for our own organizations to root out hazing. We're not close to putting that issue to bed.

How mind numbingly stupid would leaders have had to be in 1994 (not 1954) to publish words suggesting any level of physicality whatsoever? That problem would have to be consistent throughout the entire organization by now. I don't believe that's a bell which can be un-rung.
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Old 01-10-2018, 10:56 AM
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As I said in the other thread, if it is true that this organization actually published its ritual involving physical hazing, "some physicality," then they shouldn't exist as an organization unless they seriously address that. They are a liability to FSL groups everywhere. We all know how difficult a road it has been for our own organizations to root out hazing. We're not close to putting that issue to bed.

How mind numbingly stupid would leaders have had to be in 1994 (not 1954) to publish words suggesting any level of physicality whatsoever? That problem would have to be consistent throughout the entire organization by now. I don't believe that's a bell which can be un-rung.
As a follow up to my original post, my wife reminded me that we have heard of at least one chapter of my fraternity which holds initiation at a scout camp and another that does so at dawn, so both of those are situation where the level of physicality would be greater than zero....

If I worked in Greek Life at a school with a Pi Delta Psi (sorry for getting the name wrong in the thread title), I'd want to know exactly what "some level of physicality" entailed.
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