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Old 09-30-2011, 08:13 PM
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Are these locals that follow an NPC- or IFC-type model?

If so, this is the first I'm hearing about "culturally based" aspirants worrying about getting to "the best" as opposed to the best for them.

This is very interesting to me.
No they are not locals and as far as I know they don't follow an NPC/IFC model. Maybe it is due to the fact that we have quite a few asian interest GLOs. To clarify I have only heard the term "top" chapter this with those GLOs.
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Old 09-30-2011, 09:18 PM
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i will never understand why people want to be a part of a group that rejected them.
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Old 10-01-2011, 12:29 AM
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I don't understand this concept of "top" house. While I might still be a pledge ... I am pretty sure you can make a fraternity "top" with good leadership. If they have a bad image, help make it good. If you fit in best with a mediocre house, make it better.
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Old 10-01-2011, 01:07 AM
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It's never over until it's truly over. I once attended a rush party with my friend to get free booze. We never really intended on joining the fraternity since it was considered a 'bottom' house.

The recruitment person was super nice to us, kept telling us to come interview and that he would make sure to get us bids. We both went to interviews just to be polite, fully intending on declining the bid but guess what, we both didn't get a bid.

Was I bothered? Hell yeah, the bottom house not giving me a bid? The recruitment guy even promised to give us one. The moral of this experience is, if you just go to the events to have fun and drink, then no one will give you a bid. You need to build rapport with as many members as possible so they actually remember you when they make their decision.

If you truly feel like this is the right fraternity for you, then you should rush again. Personally for me though, I don't like rejection much which is why I tend to 1up anyone and anything that rejected me once.
Good point, I just felt that I built rapport with alot of people, but not the rush chairs :<
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Old 10-01-2011, 01:09 AM
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Are there any specific questions I should be asking at rush? I only really just complimented the banners of the classes of each semester while I was talking to them.
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Old 10-01-2011, 01:22 AM
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Are there any specific questions I should be asking at rush? I only really just complimented the banners of the classes of each semester while I was talking to them.
Pledge dues and active dues for sure. You don't want to start pledging, get your hopes up, then see you cannot pay the bill.
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Old 10-01-2011, 09:26 PM
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Pledge dues and active dues for sure. You don't want to start pledging, get your hopes up, then see you cannot pay the bill.
Meh, I know the fees and all that I meant more like open ended questions, I'm sorta tied up on a knot on that.
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Old 10-02-2011, 12:20 PM
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i will never understand why people want to be a part of a group that rejected them.
This. Granted Greek Life isn't huge on my campus, but I've never seen a chapter who previously rejected a PNM later give them a bid the next time the PNM rushed.
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Old 10-02-2011, 01:17 PM
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This. Granted Greek Life isn't huge on my campus, but I've never seen a chapter who previously rejected a PNM later give them a bid the next time the PNM rushed.
Are you talking about sororities or fraternities? Due to the quota system for sororities, it happens from time to time. PNM gets released, not because she isn't wanted, but because they want others more. Of course, it is different on a campus with 1000 women rushing than on one with 100 PNM's.

Fraternities, on the other hand, barring the select few campuses that have a formal men's rush, can take as many as they want, so if they don't take you....
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Old 10-02-2011, 01:40 PM
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For sure, NPC recruitment is a whole different ballgame.
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Old 10-02-2011, 04:04 PM
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Hmm, I hate giving up, I really want to give it another try. I really just want to wait for one of my friends in the fraternity to tell me why I didn't get the bid, possibly because I didn't get to know the actives that much.
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Old 10-02-2011, 11:18 PM
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Hmm, I hate giving up, I really want to give it another try. I really just want to wait for one of my friends in the fraternity to tell me why I didn't get the bid, possibly because I didn't get to know the actives that much.
That's fraternity business. It's not for nonmembers to know. If you really think of a guy as a friend, don't put him in a difficult position.
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Old 10-03-2011, 06:16 AM
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Building off what I said earlier, it's not just rapport. You got to sell yourself too. Every fraternity interview I've been to has asked me why I wanted to join the fraternity or what I can bring to the fraternity, if you just give them generic or boring answers, chances are you won't get a bid.

I've found the answers that has personally worked for me but I think you should figure out how to answer it on your own.
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Old 10-03-2011, 12:51 PM
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i will never understand why people want to be a part of a group that rejected them.
Some people thrive on rejectment.
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Old 10-06-2011, 01:15 AM
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Guys, I've decided to drop it, I wont ask him. I don't want to put anyone in a bad position. My first priority is to do well this semester.

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Building off what I said earlier, it's not just rapport. You got to sell yourself too. Every fraternity interview I've been to has asked me why I wanted to join the fraternity or what I can bring to the fraternity, if you just give them generic or boring answers, chances are you won't get a bid.

I've found the answers that has personally worked for me but I think you should figure out how to answer it on your own.
Yeah man, I agree with you. I feel so bad that I didn't talk to the active senior members more because I feel like they influence the most on who gets the bid and whatnot. I am friends with the rush chairs but I am not really close to them and I would like to take this semester to join similar on campus organizations as them to know them a bit better. THanks GC for the insight!
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