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Old 11-17-2016, 01:17 AM
NinjaPoodle NinjaPoodle is offline
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Sorry for the delay. It's been hectic in my corner of the world.

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You picked a hella expensive school for your BFA degree. Pleeease don't tell me you reached your $57,500 aggregate undergrad student loan limit and that's why you're not able to finish your BFA at your chosen institution?

The school is pricy but it is not the most expensive out there and in comparison to schools of it's kind, it's actually at the bottom of the list in price.
Also, If I had said my school was Harvard or some other truly EXPENSIVE college/uni, there would be no questioning of it. (Happens all of the time)

Yes, I'm maxed out. I live in San Francisco and without getting into too much detail, I had to work full time to pay off debts (which I did), so I did school part-time (why it's taken so long).

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If so, at this point, I think it's better that you get ANY (regionally accredited) bachelor's degree so you can get on with your career, because the BA/BS degree is the minimum job requirement. The certificates and stuff are nice, and will help, but the golden ticket to get past the gates is the BA/BS degree. You don't need another AA. You need that BA,
No, they are not nice, they are needed. Let me explain. I have 24 units (1 year) left in my BFA program and it makes no sense changing schools/major to get a B.A. That’s wasted time. I like the education I’ve received at AAU (which is accredited) but when I started there, I didn’t know I was going to change my focus from general photo to photo-j. When I did figure it out ( rather quickly) I had to make quick decisions and changes to make sure I was marketable in the field of journalism.

Credibility and proper training. The situation is that there are no traditional journalism (writing, copy editing, etc) courses offered at AAU, that’s partly why I 'm doing those classes at my jaycee (which has one of the top j programs out there) the other part is to keep the loans to in-school deferment status.
As far as credibility, AAU is not known for their docu-photo-j program as much as they are for their commercial and fine art programs. CCSF’s j-program is YEARS, actually DECADES old and has a strong history of great journalists who started there and a great program that stays relevant with the times. A certificate from there is worth more in the j-community than just a degree from AAU. (I know for a fact a lot of media outlets hate AAU) The AAU degree will be the minimum BA requirement. The certificates and AA and valid internships (and awards I’ve won) will help me get my foot in the door.

As an aside, trade organizations. Most (not all) have membership clauses that require you to be at a school that has a j-program. CCSF yes, AAU, no. Now I have membership with 3 j-orgs and will join a couple more that are relevant to what I’m doing/interested in. Options that lead to jobs etc. Options, options, options!


The community college served its purpose in several ways. At the end of the day, I have the j-skills and I’m damn great at them. ☺


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and I'm going to PM you with some info that can help you get that done faster.
I would appreciate that although I have a fast timeline. It’s $$ that I need to finish. I can barely pay for my jaycee fees. I’ve been lucky to receive the fee waiver offered by the school via the state

[Board of Governors (BOG) Fee Waiver. The Board of Governors (BOG)Fee Waiver is available specifically for students at California community colleges. The BOG Fee Waiver will waive your per-unit enrollment fee (currently $46) at any community college throughout the state.]
I’ve been aggressively applying to scholarships and am in the process of waiting to hear back. If you know of scholarships, grants etc. that you think might help, by all means, send them my way!



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Oh, and if you've been taking classes at local community colleges your loans should've been switched from forbearance back to in-school deferment status
They did. Incorrect word choice, my bad.

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But, again, you said you're in school for a second AA degree.
No. That was a by-product of my returning. I didn't go back to get an additional AA but what I realized early on was how important the department really is in relation to the j-community (connections, jobs etc.) and the skill set I would receive, essentially how valuable the AA would be. The CCSF J-department is a strong feeder to the media outlets so I decided to go ahead and get whatever internships and additional skills I could. Info on the AA and two j certificates: Online Research and Editorial Design & Management --->https://www.ccsf.edu/en/educational-...m/degrees.html


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Spoken like a young, idealistic person. But, at some point, you're going to care about the money. You're going to look up one day and realize you're too danged old to have roommates (if you're still single), or to be living at home, and the money is going to matter. Or, other life circumstances are going to happen and force the money to matter. But, one way or the other, at some point, the money is going to matter. If they're trying to pay what you could make working at Aldi's or at some other non-skilled employment? The money matters.
I’m (cough) over 40. Like I said, at this stage, to me the $$ does not matter as much as my being able to shoot stories that have social impact. My lifestyle is backpack living so I don’t own a lot of possessions, property etc. I’m free to travel and I set my life up that way right before I paid off my debt (really bad $$ choices from my youth). The only things I have left as debt are my student loans and monthly expenses ie. food transportation, etc..

I understand what you’re saying though and it’s appreciated but please don’t discredit lifestyles that are not mainstream. I live in San Francisco. It’s beyond HELLA expensive here and if it weren’t for my family, my ass would be homeless. Period. Living with family or roommates, TRUST, there is no age limit to it and quite frankly, can be a great way to go (saving $$) Some are embarrassed by it, I am not.. I guarantee I’m not the only person in my living situation. Also, I’m not trying to buy a house or plop $$ into something that will tie me into staying in one location.

I’m in the process of simplifying a complicated situation, and actually, I’m getting there faster than expected. ☺

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