[Kevin]

As I said in the other thread, if it is true that this organization actually published its ritual involving physical hazing, "some physicality," then they shouldn't exist as an organization unless they seriously address that. They are a liability to FSL groups everywhere. We all know how difficult a road it has been for our own organizations to root out hazing. We're not close to putting that issue to bed.

How mind numbingly stupid would leaders have had to be in 1994 (not 1954) to publish words suggesting any level of physicality whatsoever? That problem would have to be consistent throughout the entire organization by now. I don't believe that's a bell which can be un-rung.