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AOII Angel 02-03-2013 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2201383)
I'm not against NOT having mixers on bid day - the focus should be on sisters, not what guys you are going to meet - but I liked what we did, which was have plenty of sister time and then have a party for the sisters, pledges and anyone special in their life who they wanted to invite, male or female. (Many less "I can't believe you are mixing with those douchebags in XYZ" ticked off boyfriends that way.)

But as at many schools the party isn't eliminated, just postponed 24-48 hours, I think the dictates from NPC are kind of pointless.

I think from a risk management standpoint, it's probably best not to do the parties the same night. In retrospect, we were thrown in a very chaotic atmosphere and had not been given any expectations from our chapter. Anything that goes wrong is on the chapter at that point even if the NMs haven't paid a penny to the chapter yet. Wait a couple days, pays some dues, have a meeting to discuss expectations, rules, establish some guidelines THEN have a party. Considering the crazy things we see and hear happening at chapter functions already, I don't think that this is asking too much. We were disappointed to not have those parties anymore after my freshman year, but honestly, we were so excited to get NMs every year that we never dwelled on it.

AnchorAlumna 02-03-2013 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel (Post 2201395)
I think from a risk management standpoint, it's probably best not to do the parties the same night. In retrospect, we were thrown in a very chaotic atmosphere and had not been given any expectations from our chapter. Anything that goes wrong is on the chapter at that point even if the NMs haven't paid a penny to the chapter yet. Wait a couple days, pays some dues, have a meeting to discuss expectations, rules, establish some guidelines THEN have a party.

Have to agree with this. Plus you've got all the fatigue from the whole week of recruitment. Bad things are bound to happen.
People WILL find a way to party, but at least it's not on the shoulders of the sororities.

TSteven 02-04-2013 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel (Post 2201378)
That's very different from what we are talking about. In the OLD days, the fraternities would throw big parties on Bid Night and sororities would walk down Greek row with their new pledges in tow partying all night. At my campus, we did this in our new bid shirts. :eek: Yes, all four sororities drank all night in big four inch sewn on letters! (And 18 was the legal drinking age in Louisiana at the time.) I remember Delta Sig made a slip and slide in their front yard, and everyone had to be careful not to get thrown down it. Didn't want to get your new shirt ruined.

When I was an undergrad at Kentucky (older days) sorority bid day fell during IFC rush. And at the time, alcohol was allowed during IFC rush. :D

As I recall, NPC bids were handed out in the afternoon and new members celebrated with their chapter the afternoon and into the early evening. Some pledge classes (new member classes) voted which fraternity party they wanted to attend (or start off at) and other pledge classes already had the fraternity picked out by the actives. The social chairs of the fraternity and the sorority would coordinate the timing so that once the sorority pledges arrived, the fraternity men would still be somewhat sober ;) and often do something special - like serenade them. This often served as an effective recruiting tool since the fraternities could brag “Look at who we get at our parties!” :cool:

IFC rush parties started around 7 p.m., so the sorority pledges (and some active members) usually didn’t show up until maybe 8 p.m. give or take. Maybe stay for an hour or so as a group. Some stayed on, others went to other fraternity parties, and quite a few went back to the house or dorm.

NCSigma 02-04-2013 09:31 PM

we had to wait until midnight on bid day to start drinking with the fraternities - and we couldn't wear letters, so all of us seemed to have circumspect bid day shirts (often in our colors, but not mentioning the actual sorority). This was 1992/1993/1994. I feel kind of old.

KSUViolet06 02-06-2013 04:38 PM

Our pref and bid day have always been same day on a Sunday. Bid night didn't even START until 6 or 6:30 sometimes. By the time you were all the way done with bid day activities (actual bid day, celebrating at your house, pictures) it was usually like 10:30. And everyone had class the next day. There was no "unofficial bid night mixer party with guys" to be had. EVERYONE was tired. Your first opportunity to really do any sort of partying was that Thursday.

honeychile 02-06-2013 06:35 PM

We usually had an All Greek Mixer on Bid Night.

I have mixed feelings about it, though. The sorority whose bid you didn't accept would sometimes be nasty to a newly bidded Alpha, or hang on them, crying. Either way, it was embarrassing, as emotions were still running high.

33girl 02-07-2013 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by honeychile (Post 2202170)
We usually had an All Greek Mixer on Bid Night.

I have mixed feelings about it, though. The sorority whose bid you didn't accept would sometimes be nasty to a newly bidded Alpha, or hang on them, crying. Either way, it was embarrassing, as emotions were still running high.

That sounds absolutely perfect and awesome in theory, but (as in the above example) potentially dicey in practice.

carnation 06-19-2015 01:43 PM

TTT!

KSUViolet06 07-19-2015 02:51 PM

Bumping because I don't know if this is stickied!

carnation 07-25-2015 03:05 PM

It is!

AGDCanada11 07-26-2015 03:06 PM

Bumping this one to the top!! :)

ComradesTrue 04-20-2016 08:20 AM

Bringing this back to the top because I love the term "back-ups."

If only more Campus Panhellenics and Rho Whatevers would use this terminology instead of "put the ones you want to keep at the top and the ones you want to cut at the bottom" there would be fewer girls confused and upset by the chapters on their invite list.

PNMs- you do not cut chapters. You will rank your favorites at the top, and any remaining chapters become your "back-ups." If all your favorites invite you back then you will go to those chapters the next day. If any of your favorites do not invite you back, your back-ups come into play in the order that you have them listed. Note that even your back ups have to invite you back for them to appear on your schedule.

Getting your bottom ranked chapter means that not enough groups ahead of that one invited you back.

FSUZeta 04-20-2016 08:16 PM

Thanks ComradesTrue, for clarifying that.

thetalady 04-20-2016 08:59 PM

PNMs, please consider it this way.... would you rather have an opportunity to give a chapter that you might not have clicked with another look and have a full schedule of parties? or would you rather have only a partial schedule?

carnation 08-06-2019 03:18 PM

To the top!

Cheerio 08-06-2019 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 2087902)
On the same subject:

Listing a group as your LAST choice on your final/pref card (the one you turn in after preference) doesn't mean that you WON'T get a bid from them.

If you attend a group's pref party and put them ANYWHERE on your card (even if it's your 3rd choice) you could potentially get a bid there.

TTT.

Jen 08-06-2019 07:58 PM

I always tell PNMs that you only get to cut chapters if you are so sought after that they all want you.



I hate, hate, hate "mutual selection" because it's not really that mutual. The sororities always hold more power.

carnation 08-12-2019 12:13 PM

TTT!

AnchorAlumna 08-14-2019 12:37 PM

Question on PNM rankings.
Let's say it's the end of Round-before-pref (sisterhood, or skit, or whatever your campus calls it), where there were 6 parties. The PNMs go to rank for the final part, Pref, where they can go to 2 sororities.
Do they list just 2 in order of preference?
Or do they list all 6?

psy 08-14-2019 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AnchorAlumna (Post 2468447)
Question on PNM rankings.
Let's say it's the end of Round-before-pref (sisterhood, or skit, or whatever your campus calls it), where there were 6 parties. The PNMs go to rank for the final part, Pref, where they can go to 2 sororities.
Do they list just 2 in order of preference?
Or do they list all 6?

They list their top two untangled and then rank the remaining four in order of preference.

AnchorAlumna 08-14-2019 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by psy (Post 2468448)
They list their top two untangled and then rank the remaining four in order of preference.

Thanks! (although I'm not sure what you mean by untangled)
I did have a former Panhel adviser confirm that a few minutes ago.

psy 08-14-2019 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AnchorAlumna (Post 2468449)
Thanks! (although I'm not sure what you mean by untangled)
I did have a former Panhel adviser confirm that a few minutes ago.

Sorry, I meant "unranked"--phone must have autocorrected to "untangled."

chi-o_cat 08-14-2019 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by AnchorAlumna (Post 2468449)
Thanks! (although I'm not sure what you mean by untangled)
I did have a former Panhel adviser confirm that a few minutes ago.

It means the top 2 don't need to be in any particular order. It would look like this

1. ABC
1. DEF

2. GHI
3. JKL
4. MNO
5. PQR

If one (or both) of the #1 chapters does not invite her back, her rankings of the remaining 4 would come into play. GHI is the one she would most like to have in place of her Top 2, PQR is her least favorite.

AnchorAlumna 08-14-2019 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by psy (Post 2468450)
Sorry, I meant "unranked"--phone must have autocorrected to "untangled."

LOL - At least it wasn't something rude!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by chi-o_cat (Post 2468451)
It means the top 2 don't need to be in any particular order. It would look like this

1. ABC
1. DEF

2. GHI
3. JKL
4. MNO
5. PQR

If one (or both) of the #1 chapters does not invite her back, her rankings of the remaining 4 would come into play. GHI is the one she would most like to have in place of her Top 2, PQR is her least favorite.

Ah, OK, that's what I thought, just like the other rounds. We had a bit of misinformation going around in one of my Facebook groups. Thanks!


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