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WCsweet<3 02-03-2013 12:36 AM

At my campus there were no guys on actual bid day. I pledged in 2008. A few days/weeks later we had a mixer/function. Last year I believe there was a campus wide bid day function the weekend after as well.

sigmagirl10 02-03-2013 10:28 AM

My university had something called "Sunday Fun Day". I think that recruitment rules (esp. re: length of the dry period/which day of the week is Bid Day, and rules about social functions inside fraternity houses) have changed in order to prevent this.

Basically how it worked was this: Bid Day was on Saturday, and that was reserved for women-only chapter bid activities. Sunday, each fraternity would host a party (often with bounce houses, water stuff, new sand in their volleyball courts, etc.) and sorority chapters would essentially parade around with their new members (often with the whole chapter in coordinated colors/outfits) going from fraternity to fraternity for a day rager in order to introduce the new members.

There was (is?) also something called Midnight Madness, which I think was the following weekend on Friday or Saturday night, and was the same idea--but now the fraternities would have new members (they called them pledges...) to introduce.

AOII Angel 02-03-2013 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by KillarneyRose (Post 2201092)
Showing my age here, but they don't have Bid Day mixers anymore? When did that start??

1994. My pledge class was the last the have bid night parties. I think people probably sucked it up, but you still had to get to 7 or 8 pm. Plenty of time to turn down your bid.

AOII Angel 02-03-2013 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by adpiucf (Post 2201347)
Alcohol is a big no-no, but I think that in my day UCF was flirting with manless Bid Day. I'm pretty sure things haven't changed. The men aren't invited to Bid Day, but a lot of the Bid Day activities take place outside the houses/on the street at UCF. It's like a big block party, and the street belongs to the guys just as much as the girls.

It's not unusual for fraternity guys to wander up and down the street to say high to their girlfriends and sorority friends, and to congratulate them on Bid Day. They're not checking the new members out per se or participating in the activities. Unless Panhellenic banned them from the street, I'm not sure how this could be avoided. The sororities certainly aren't going to boot them off the sidewalk, especially when they're just chatting with their friends. The guys do clear out once the Bid Day activities move indoors, and are not part of the evening celebration when the sororities go to area restaurants/venues.

That's very different from what we are talking about. In the OLD days, the fraternities would throw big parties on Bid Night and sororities would walk down Greek row with their new pledges in tow partying all night. At my campus, we did this in our new bid shirts. :eek: Yes, all four sororities drank all night in big four inch sewn on letters! (And 18 was the legal drinking age in Louisiana at the time.) I remember Delta Sig made a slip and slide in their front yard, and everyone had to be careful not to get thrown down it. Didn't want to get your new shirt ruined.

33girl 02-03-2013 11:37 AM

I'm not against NOT having mixers on bid day - the focus should be on sisters, not what guys you are going to meet - but I liked what we did, which was have plenty of sister time and then have a party for the sisters, pledges and anyone special in their life who they wanted to invite, male or female. (Many less "I can't believe you are mixing with those douchebags in XYZ" ticked off boyfriends that way.)

But as at many schools the party isn't eliminated, just postponed 24-48 hours, I think the dictates from NPC are kind of pointless.

AOII Angel 02-03-2013 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2201383)
I'm not against NOT having mixers on bid day - the focus should be on sisters, not what guys you are going to meet - but I liked what we did, which was have plenty of sister time and then have a party for the sisters, pledges and anyone special in their life who they wanted to invite, male or female. (Many less "I can't believe you are mixing with those douchebags in XYZ" ticked off boyfriends that way.)

But as at many schools the party isn't eliminated, just postponed 24-48 hours, I think the dictates from NPC are kind of pointless.

I think from a risk management standpoint, it's probably best not to do the parties the same night. In retrospect, we were thrown in a very chaotic atmosphere and had not been given any expectations from our chapter. Anything that goes wrong is on the chapter at that point even if the NMs haven't paid a penny to the chapter yet. Wait a couple days, pays some dues, have a meeting to discuss expectations, rules, establish some guidelines THEN have a party. Considering the crazy things we see and hear happening at chapter functions already, I don't think that this is asking too much. We were disappointed to not have those parties anymore after my freshman year, but honestly, we were so excited to get NMs every year that we never dwelled on it.

AnchorAlumna 02-03-2013 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel (Post 2201395)
I think from a risk management standpoint, it's probably best not to do the parties the same night. In retrospect, we were thrown in a very chaotic atmosphere and had not been given any expectations from our chapter. Anything that goes wrong is on the chapter at that point even if the NMs haven't paid a penny to the chapter yet. Wait a couple days, pays some dues, have a meeting to discuss expectations, rules, establish some guidelines THEN have a party.

Have to agree with this. Plus you've got all the fatigue from the whole week of recruitment. Bad things are bound to happen.
People WILL find a way to party, but at least it's not on the shoulders of the sororities.

TSteven 02-04-2013 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel (Post 2201378)
That's very different from what we are talking about. In the OLD days, the fraternities would throw big parties on Bid Night and sororities would walk down Greek row with their new pledges in tow partying all night. At my campus, we did this in our new bid shirts. :eek: Yes, all four sororities drank all night in big four inch sewn on letters! (And 18 was the legal drinking age in Louisiana at the time.) I remember Delta Sig made a slip and slide in their front yard, and everyone had to be careful not to get thrown down it. Didn't want to get your new shirt ruined.

When I was an undergrad at Kentucky (older days) sorority bid day fell during IFC rush. And at the time, alcohol was allowed during IFC rush. :D

As I recall, NPC bids were handed out in the afternoon and new members celebrated with their chapter the afternoon and into the early evening. Some pledge classes (new member classes) voted which fraternity party they wanted to attend (or start off at) and other pledge classes already had the fraternity picked out by the actives. The social chairs of the fraternity and the sorority would coordinate the timing so that once the sorority pledges arrived, the fraternity men would still be somewhat sober ;) and often do something special - like serenade them. This often served as an effective recruiting tool since the fraternities could brag “Look at who we get at our parties!” :cool:

IFC rush parties started around 7 p.m., so the sorority pledges (and some active members) usually didn’t show up until maybe 8 p.m. give or take. Maybe stay for an hour or so as a group. Some stayed on, others went to other fraternity parties, and quite a few went back to the house or dorm.

NCSigma 02-04-2013 09:31 PM

we had to wait until midnight on bid day to start drinking with the fraternities - and we couldn't wear letters, so all of us seemed to have circumspect bid day shirts (often in our colors, but not mentioning the actual sorority). This was 1992/1993/1994. I feel kind of old.

KSUViolet06 02-06-2013 04:38 PM

Our pref and bid day have always been same day on a Sunday. Bid night didn't even START until 6 or 6:30 sometimes. By the time you were all the way done with bid day activities (actual bid day, celebrating at your house, pictures) it was usually like 10:30. And everyone had class the next day. There was no "unofficial bid night mixer party with guys" to be had. EVERYONE was tired. Your first opportunity to really do any sort of partying was that Thursday.

honeychile 02-06-2013 06:35 PM

We usually had an All Greek Mixer on Bid Night.

I have mixed feelings about it, though. The sorority whose bid you didn't accept would sometimes be nasty to a newly bidded Alpha, or hang on them, crying. Either way, it was embarrassing, as emotions were still running high.

33girl 02-07-2013 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by honeychile (Post 2202170)
We usually had an All Greek Mixer on Bid Night.

I have mixed feelings about it, though. The sorority whose bid you didn't accept would sometimes be nasty to a newly bidded Alpha, or hang on them, crying. Either way, it was embarrassing, as emotions were still running high.

That sounds absolutely perfect and awesome in theory, but (as in the above example) potentially dicey in practice.

carnation 06-19-2015 01:43 PM

TTT!

KSUViolet06 07-19-2015 02:51 PM

Bumping because I don't know if this is stickied!

carnation 07-25-2015 03:05 PM

It is!


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