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NinjaPoodle 10-07-2015 04:43 PM

*The Machine* Won't Let Sorority Vote For Its Own Member For Homecoming Queen
 
When will it ever end Alabama? *smh*

Article 1 http://www.cw.ua.edu/article/2015/10...begins-at-home

Article 2 http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/..._must_add.html

Article 3 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b022a4ce5fa05d

lake 10-07-2015 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaPoodle (Post 2373296)

*Smh*, indeed. It all seems so silly to the rest of the world. It sounds like things may be slowly changing, though, and that's good.

I feel for the Alpha Gam homecoming candidate who doesn't have a banner or any support at her own chapter house! That is just weird and wrong. I would feel so hurt and disappointed and let down.

It's also frustrating to know how controlled by the boys these young women are. I get it, I know it happens, but I wish they could just realize how much power they do have, collectively. Instead they're letting the boys assign their value and popularity. Again, very frustrating since these are groups that are supposed to strengthen and empower women.

AnchorAlumna 10-07-2015 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by lake (Post 2373313)
...I wish they could just realize how much power they do have, collectively.

I agree...there are MANY more sorority members than fraternity members. The sororities ought to be taking over the Machine and running it.
Rest assured, though, that not everyone votes the way the Machine dictates.

33girl 10-07-2015 07:24 PM

The references to the "first class of black women" (they're not all in the same pledge class so what on earth does this mean) and "first four black women to join" are wrong, there were African-American members in the NPC groups previously. Do your research people.

Sciencewoman 10-07-2015 09:23 PM

My mind is boggled by the statement that Alabama doesn't have an inclusion/diversity office. My university has a Vice President of Inclusion, who serves in the President's Cabinet and heads a whole division of various offices, centers, initiatives, etc. To not have anything like this at a major university speaks volumes.

NinjaPoodle 10-07-2015 10:35 PM

https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...a6&oe=5695ACD7

She has her campaign page on fb -->https://www.facebook.com/halle4queen

TriDeltaSallie 10-07-2015 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sciencewoman (Post 2373366)
My mind is boggled by the statement that Alabama doesn't have an inclusion/diversity office. My university has a Vice President of Inclusion, who serves in the President's Cabinet and heads a whole division of various offices, centers, initiatives, etc. To not have anything like this at a major university speaks volumes.

I agree. Completely mind-boggling.

NinjaPoodle 10-07-2015 10:46 PM

The candidates --> http://theodysseyonline.com/alabama/...didates/185064

Hartofsec 10-07-2015 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sciencewoman (Post 2373366)
My mind is boggled by the statement that Alabama doesn't have an inclusion/diversity office. My university has a Vice President of Inclusion, who serves in the President's Cabinet and heads a whole division of various offices, centers, initiatives, etc. To not have anything like this at a major university speaks volumes.

Bama has the Crossroads Community Center instead of a diversity office. There is a director, program assistant, and student staff, though no cabinet position:

http://crossroads.ua.edu/


*ETA: Checked for a strategic plan of some sort -- this falls under the Office of Equal Opportunity -- the Strategic Diversity Plan:

http://eop.ua.edu/

Hartofsec 10-07-2015 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2373327)
The references to the "first class of black women" (they're not all in the same pledge class so what on earth does this mean) and "first four black women to join" are wrong, there were African-American members in the NPC groups previously. Do your research people.

There are a number of inaccuracies and misleading omissions in that article. As Greek-centric as the Bama campus appears, there is (and always has been) a strong anti-Greek sentiment among many on campus (even beyond objection to machine activity).

Wishing Halle Lindsay the best -- I won't be surprised if she wins (which might be an awkward congrats banner situation for Alpha Gam). No one can actually dictate how individuals vote, and Halle does have some public support of sisters -- here is a blog by an AGD supporting Halle for HQ:

https://herunpopularopinion.wordpres...-fights-alone/

Hartofsec 10-07-2015 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaPoodle (Post 2373387)

The candidates were narrowed to the 5 finalists yesterday:

http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/articl...news/151009819

NinjaPoodle 10-08-2015 02:05 AM

Thanks!

NinjaPoodle 10-08-2015 02:15 AM

So, I scoured GC for 'Machine' threads and found this in one:

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Originally Posted by hoosier (Post 287218)
Alabama's Machine may be the longest running/best known, and the secret to their success was secrecy, political skills, maybe a little money from alumni, and organization.

If almost all of Alabama's Greeks can vote for the Machine's candidates, they win.

And if an outstanding dedicated non-Machine candidate runs, he might find he's also opposed by several attractive non-Machine-ites, and the non-Greek vote is split - Machine wins.

And if the non-Machine guy happens to win, he faces a student govt. already filled with Machine allies, and few real changes are possible.

At UGa, it is said that the (Gridiron?) machine Student Body Pres. is promised a seat in the state legislature as soon as he gets a law degree.

from this thread http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...hlight=machine

carnation 10-08-2015 08:15 AM

This makes me crazy. I have seen it happen over the years when a sorority ends up with more than 1 Homecoming candidate and can you imagine the pain of the candidate(s) who don't get their sorority's backing. :(

Kevin 10-08-2015 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by carnation (Post 2373819)
This makes me crazy. I have seen it happen over the years when a sorority ends up with more than 1 Homecoming candidate and can you imagine the pain of the candidate(s) who don't get their sorority's backing. :(

I suppose if someone chooses to run despite the fact that their sorority has already selected their top candidate, the individual deciding to run against their group's best wishes is sort of making that an inevitable outcome, right?


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