I want to join a fraternity!
Hi guys! I just joined here, so sorry if this is the wrong forum. I just had a question.
My father was a member of Sigma Phi Epsilon, and I'm really interested in becoming a legacy. Problem is, my university doesn't have a Greek system. I'm thinking about going to a different university for Grad school. I was just wondering if most fraternities allow people to pledge as grad students? If anyone here is from SigEp, that would be very helpful. |
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Alternatively, you could go about routes which will allow greek life to come to your campus but it probably won't be successful |
First of all, I'm sorry for the loss of your father. Young men need their fathers at this crucial point in their lives.
Second, you can't "become" a legacy as you already are one. Third, yes, some chapters take grad students. You'd just have to inquire of the Greek Life office on particular campus what the norm is there. |
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He probably meant that his father was a Sig Ep while in school... not many people who are greek will tell others that their mom or dad (or someone else) IS greek, when they went to school awhile ago. I wouldn't have thought to word it like that had I not joined. |
Depending on what you're going to grad school for, you probably won't even have time for fraternity involvement even if you go to a school that regularly pledges grad students.
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To Titchou, although the OP might not have known this, there are indeed some organizations which do not consider non-members to be legacies. It is used as a term to define a relationship between members. |
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I agree with you based on the NPC and IFC cultures, but I hope Titchou simply thought the OP lost his father and wouldn't be snarky about something like that. |
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I am a SigEp. It is my understanding that only undergraduates my join SigEp. I may be wrong.
If you attend a school that has a chapter of SigEp, you might want to volunteer to help the chapter. I did that in grad school. |
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Interesting. |
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I know that on my campus, the fraternities all had faculty advisors. I think the only one that had an actual member as an advisor was KDR, who had a faculty advisor who was also a brother. In all of these cases (even with my own organization having non-members serve in advisory roles), I’m not sure what the requirements would be. |
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I read that as a "go to the chapter and help them with chapter business" thing. I wouldn't mind a non-member supporting ODPhi events, but if someone (who was ineligible for membership) wanted to come to meetings and get into chapter business, that would be an issue. ETA: Just re-read some of the quotes you posted. It looks like many of these rural campuses had advisors serving both roles. My alma mater is in the middle of the 4th largest metro in the US, so there were plenty of GLO members to choose from. |
The extent to which he would be welcome to participate will probably weigh heavily on which grad school he attends, what the fraternity's policy is when it comes to advisors, and how open the chapter members are to the idea.
And in all of the examples above, the advisors had SOME connection to the sorority and/or school... above and beyond just being a student there. In conclusion... I wouldn't put my money on this working out. |
To the OP, you really should have considered that before you picked your school. At this point, if you're serious about this, you should transfer. I don't get the grad student user name and what you're asking. If you're in grad school you may have missed your chance, but should still inquire with some chapters at schools you'd be willing to transfer to.
Regarding non-members being involved... while many things are similar about the way an undergraduate chapter operates from one org to another, the advisory/governance side is often very different. My fraternity is an old major national and we operate with an a board system. It is primarily advisory in practice, but has significant governance powers over the overall local org (chapter, alumni assoc, & liaison function with housing corp). Within that corporate board structure, the majority of are obviously alumni. However, there is no restriction that trustees be initiates. When establishing a new chapter, we routinely pull in parents, faculty, and possibly even someone from the community. With established chapters, the faculty advisor (mostly for signing stuff) sometimes sits on that board, and about half the time they'll have a parent's club rep as a trustee. Male non-initiates who make a solid contribution after serving on such boards for a while are often honorary initiated. Obviously that is not the greek experience that everyone else had though. |
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