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shadokat 10-30-2017 01:59 PM

Totally off topic, but did anyone look at the report cards for Greeks? Why do the men have like 40 people living in a 36 bed house? The fraternity side is a sad state of affairs.

JonInKC 10-31-2017 06:44 PM

RIP, Penn State Greek Life.

ASTalumna06 11-01-2017 11:25 AM

Delta Tau Delta Charged With Furnishing Alcohol To Minors
http://onwardstate.com/2017/10/31/de...hol-to-minors/

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Furnishing charges were filed Monday against the Delta Tau Delta fraternity, who allegedly gave alcohol to underage student Brendan Soh on Thursday, September 28. Soh, who was suspected of drinking alcohol at the fraternity, was taken to the hospital after being found unconscious on Calder Way that night.

According to the criminal complaint against DTD, police found Soh unconscious but breathing on Calder Way when they responded to a report at 1:37 a.m. that Thursday. He was then transported to Mount Nittany Medical Center.

Witnesses said he was attempting to jump a fence when his leg got caught and he fell

.....

The university placed DTD on interim suspension earlier this month to investigate the fraternity’s potential involvement with the Soh’s injuries. It currently remains suspended on this interim basis, so Penn State likely hasn’t yet completed its own student conduct investigation.

ASTalumna06 11-08-2017 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 2446138)
Delta Tau Delta Charged With Furnishing Alcohol To Minors
http://onwardstate.com/2017/10/31/de...hol-to-minors/

And DTD has been suspended.

That's 10 out of 49.

http://onwardstate.com/2017/11/08/an...now-suspended/

Kevin 11-10-2017 10:15 AM

This demanded instant culture change will be problematic. These kids signed up for fraternities with one kind of culture. Now they're being asked to adopt something completely different in order to mitigate the legal risk to the University, their alumni and their national organizations.

If these groups survive at all, they're going to be rebuilding from the ground up and sadly, I don't think the demanded changes are going to do anything other than push the risky behavior out of the Greek world and into another sort of student group which will be much less responsive to the administration's orders from on high.

33girl 11-10-2017 04:34 PM

Especially in this part of the country where Greek membership doesn't open doors quite the way it does in say, Mississippi or Alabama. People aren't going to suck it up and pay tons of $$ to be constantly monitored and hounded because having XYZ on your resume is helpful in state politics or whatever.

The partying is going to get pushed off campus and the town is going to have a shit fit.

Kevin 11-10-2017 06:27 PM

-OR-

18-21 year olds will stop all underage drinking and questionable activities because the administration.

shadokat 11-13-2017 02:15 PM

http://6abc.com/another-12-students-...death/2640425/

And it continues...funny thing. In the middle of October I had jury duty. While I wasn't selected for the jury, I did get paneled, and as I'm sitting there staring at the defendant's attorney, I was like why do I know this guy from somewhere? It was one of these brother's attorneys.

ASTalumna06 11-13-2017 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by shadokat (Post 2447204)

Wow. This was obviously a recipe for disaster.

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Investigators say the video shows Piazza does not obtain his own alcohol at any point. In fact, authorities say, every drink consumed was provided to him by a fraternity brother.

Piazza was furnished with at least 18 drinks in 1 hour and 22 minutes, Parks Miller's office said.

GreekOne 11-13-2017 04:30 PM

The video of the press conference can be found by scrolling down on this site.

https://www.facebook.com/centredaily...location=group

ASTalumna06 12-11-2017 01:13 AM

Sigma Alpha Epsilon Alumni Board Closes Penn State Chapter House

http://onwardstate.com/2017/12/10/si...chapter-house/

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Sigma Alpha Epsilon’s House Corporation Alumni Board has decided to close the Penn State chapter house property for at least the rest of the 2017-2018 academic year, according to a press release from the SAE national organization. The closure takes effect December 17.

Local alumni leaders became aware of several reported violations on December 5. They then suspended all fraternity activity and notified university officials and the SAE national organization. Neither the national organization nor the university elaborated on the nature of these reported violations.

shadokat 12-11-2017 01:50 PM

If they have fraternities in a year, they'll be lucky :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 2449031)
Sigma Alpha Epsilon Alumni Board Closes Penn State Chapter House

http://onwardstate.com/2017/12/10/si...chapter-house/


ASTalumna06 12-15-2017 03:14 PM

Grand jury slams Penn State for ignoring reports on dangerous hazing

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/15/us/pen...ort/index.html

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A scathing grand jury report released Friday described alcohol-fueled fraternity hazing at Penn State University and said the rituals were a pervasive and dangerous practice that the university has been apathetic to and failed to prevent for years.

The grand jury wrote the report following its investigation into the hazing death of a sophomore Beta Theta Pi pledge earlier this year, saying "it would be failing its duty ... if it did not report to the public both what it learned and the certain dangers it foresees if students, university administrators, and the General Assembly resist adopting profound changes on college campuses and communities in Pennsylvania."
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The report also described the case of James Vivenzio, who pledged to join Kappa Delta Rho in 2012. According to the report he left the school in 2013, due to "issues stemming from his hazing." The report said he made multiple attempts to notify the university and police about the fraternity's hazing, alcohol abuse and misconduct involving the circulation of photos of unconscious, nude women from fraternity parties.

He said the three-month hazing period included mandatory drinking games until pledges threw up, and those who refused to participate were forced to leave immediately, the report said.

It said pledges were forced to drink a warm concoction that included ingredients such as cat food, urine, semen and alcohol, among others.

In a bid to put a stop to the hazing, Vivenzio met in April 2014 with the head of the Office of Fraternity and Sorority Life visited him in Virginia to see the evidence of hazing and abuse, the report said. Vivenzio testified that the official said there was not much he could do to stop it, according to the report.

Vivenzio also shared his hazing accounts with several departments at Penn State in 2014, including the board of trustees, according to the report.

The grand jury report stated that emails corroborate the fact that university administrators adopted a "policy of detachment" and chose not to involve themselves with fraternity affairs.

Kevin 12-15-2017 03:43 PM

The report http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2017/images/1...ury.report.pdf makes some troubling recommendations. In responding to this issue, it looks like things are going off the rails.

One of the issues I have is making advisers mandated reporters for hazing. First, that's not going to work when some of us advisers would have attorney-client privilege issues triggered by a mandatory reporting statute. Secondly, if my actives can't be completely candid with me, I'm not able to get the information I need to do my job properly.

This is depriving organizations of the right to self governance and putting everything under university supervision. I only had time to skim, so I'm sure there will be many more issues. One of the more troubling issues I saw was the ability for the school and IFC to conduct searches of fraternity facilities without notice, consent, probable cause or a warrant. Problematic to say the least.

shadokat 12-15-2017 05:00 PM

Here's what I am failing to understand. A grand jury is put in place to decide if the charges filed against someone are valid to stand trial. Here, we have a grand jury who spends 11 months debating the faults of the Penn State Greek Life System, puts out a 236-page document regarding changes, and the only thing that happens is people read it. Nobody is telling Penn State they have to do ANY of these things. Nobody was in place to decide if charges are valid. All they did was a review of Greek Life - like an independent, but emotionally charged report of Greek Life from a perspective of outrage over the tragic death of this young man.

Now I am and continue to be disgusted at the absolutely horrific lack of regard for human life that the brothers of Beta Theta Pi at Penn State had for Tim Piazza.

33girl 12-15-2017 05:14 PM

Re the ex KDR pledge, if he really did refuse to file a formal complaint, that's a tad sketchy.

ASTalumna06 01-08-2018 02:17 PM

How Current Fraternity Suspensions Will Affect THON

http://onwardstate.com/2018/01/08/ho...l-affect-thon/

Fortunately, they're working things out so that paired organizations in good standing are not affected, and neither are Four Diamond Family relationships with the suspended orgs.

CaliAggie 01-09-2018 09:04 PM

A Penn State fraternity member was just found dead in his dorm this week. Not a lot of details right now, but the death may coincide with a reported drug incident that occurred around the same time. A university spokesperson said that the student was a member of ATO, but did not say whether it was a fraternity-related incident. Very sad for Penn State, regardless. My condolences to the student's family.

http://www.collegian.psu.edu/news/bo...9dfb828a6.html

kitekat 03-28-2018 07:54 PM

Update: Manslaughter charges dismissed
http://abcnews.go.com/US/manslaughte...ry?id=54040809

ASTalumna06 05-01-2018 01:44 PM

AG drops manslaughter, assault in Penn State frat death case

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/a...death-54855466

PKT4LIFE 07-31-2018 09:02 PM

UPDATE: Tim Piazza gets house arrest, community service and probation?????

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...rke/873139002/

GreekOne 08-01-2018 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PKT4LIFE (Post 2458464)
UPDATE: Tim Piazza gets house arrest, community service and probation?????

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...rke/873139002/

Actually, Tim Piazza is deceased. Ryan Burke is getting 3 mo house arrest, 100 hours of community service and a $3000 fine.

PKT4LIFE 08-01-2018 07:40 PM

Thanks, my bad.

PGD-GRAD 08-24-2018 10:02 AM

I hate to dredge this up again, but tomorrow evening, 8/25 at 8 on CNN is a special report called: “A Deadly Haze”. The previews show the Beta house at Penn State, but the previews seem to indicate that it’ll focused on widespread fraternity hazing and alcohol consumption.
While part of me hates the negativity, it’s VERY important that our collegiate chapter members realize the dangers associated with hazing and binge drinking, especially with a new school year beginning.
If only they WATCHED the news....sigh....

GreekOne 09-05-2018 01:14 PM

So, the Piazza family reached a settlement with Beta Theta Pi. Terms are discussed in the article linked below:

https://www.centredaily.com/news/loc...217757260.html

As many of you may know, there is an alumni that donated over $8M to the renovation of this house. There is a lawsuit pending about the future of this property and his rights. Does anyone else find it odd that Beta Theta Pi has agreed that the family will be given a say in the future use of this property? Of all of their well intentioned expectations, this particular request seems odd to me.

Xidelt 09-05-2018 03:06 PM

So are all of these new standards and protocols supposed to be just for Beta Theta Pi or for all Penn State Greek chapters? I also wonder if this settlement had anything to do with the NIC's announcement that hard liquor will no longer be allowed at chapter functions or in the chapter houses.

33girl 09-05-2018 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Xidelt (Post 2460067)
So are all of these new standards and protocols supposed to be just for Beta Theta Pi or for all Penn State Greek chapters? I also wonder if this settlement had anything to do with the NIC's announcement that hard liquor will no longer be allowed at chapter functions or in the chapter houses.

Just Beta Theta Pi!! That’s the only entity the suit was settled with. There’s no reason other fraternities should have to pay for their mistakes.

Personally, I see a lot of off campus unofficial houses in Beta’s future and “official” houses shrinking in size and occupancy. Smart strategy, really.

33girl 09-05-2018 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xidelt (Post 2460067)
So are all of these new standards and protocols supposed to be just for Beta Theta Pi or for all Penn State Greek chapters? I also wonder if this settlement had anything to do with the NIC's announcement that hard liquor will no longer be allowed at chapter functions or in the chapter houses.

Just Beta Theta Pi!! That’s the only entity the suit was settled with. There’s no reason other fraternities should have to pay for their mistakes.

Personally, I see a lot of off campus unofficial houses in Beta’s future and “official” houses shrinking in size and occupancy. Smart strategy, really.

ChioLu 09-14-2018 07:06 PM

Article on fraternity hazing and alcohol — removing hard alcohol won’t end hazing: https://www.responsibility.org/blog/...manBlog_Hazing

33girl 09-14-2018 10:55 PM

I hate when people say “hazing rituals.”

Tom Earp 09-15-2018 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2460720)
I hate when people say “hazing rituals.”

Amen, and usually those who spout this so called NEWs were never Greeks!:mad:

That is just part of the problem!:(

GreekOne 02-08-2019 12:45 PM

Interesting twist to this case. Will be curious to see the basis of the suit.

https://wjactv.com/news/local/4-form...8a96c0IYeJUFqY

DaffyKD 04-03-2019 02:45 PM

Sentences have been handed down!
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/4-penn-sta...opstories.html

DaffyKD

SydneyK 04-04-2019 08:04 AM

From the article:
Quote:

Visser received two to six months in jail and three years of probation. Sala was sentenced to three to 10 months of house arrest plus two years of probation. Kurczewski received to three to nine months in jail and one year of probation. Bonatucci was sentenced to one to six months in jail plus one year of probation.

I wonder how these sentences were decided upon. Nine months in jail (the most any of the four would serve) seems terribly lenient.

GreekOne 04-04-2019 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SydneyK (Post 2465401)
From the article:



I wonder how these sentences were decided upon. Nine months in jail (the most any of the four would serve) seems terribly lenient.

I wonder how the sentences were decided upon as well. I find it interesting that 28 were originally charged and most got off with no jail time. How was the involvement of these 4 different than the others? Was it that the others just agreed to plea deals and these 4 took their chances with the justice system? From reading the original Grand Jury Report, it did not seem that other than Becker, the House Manager accused of erasing video, any one defendant's action was much different than the others.

Kevin 11-24-2019 08:10 PM

https://www.centredaily.com/news/loc...231898278.html

Beta is suing Penn State. This is kind of old news, but newer than the last post in this thread.


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