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AngelPhiSig 02-26-2013 08:58 PM

Founder's Legacies?
 
Okay, so I searched, and it may be the "late night" kindergarten teacher brain kicking in, but I couldn't find anything on this -

Have there/are there any legacies of NPC sororities that have joined either their NPC or a different NPC organization?

In my grand scheme of procrastinating, my brain wandered to wondering if this has ever happened? Like Fay Chertkoff (bad choice, I dont think she ever married, Phi Sig was her love) having a great-great-granddaughter who joined Phi Sig at a school.

Any ideas?

Gusteau 02-26-2013 09:05 PM

Definitely, and probably more often than you'd think. A Sigma Kappa friend of mine advises a chapter with a founder's many times great granddaughter.

In my own organization I am only aware of a founder's son who is also a Delta Chi.

Titchou 02-26-2013 09:10 PM

I know the granddaughter of one of our founders and she is a member of the same group.

ADPiEE 02-26-2013 09:18 PM

Yes for ADPi--I remember reading about one in a fairly recent (within a few years) issue of the Adelphean about this

Sciencewoman 02-26-2013 09:23 PM

Check out page 18 of this issue of Gamma Phi Beta's The Crescent:

http://digital.publicationprinters.c...ation/?i=67967

badgeguy 02-26-2013 09:48 PM

I know that there are some instances of a founders offspring or grandchild joining a seperate organization than the ones they founded.

That to me would seem a little awkward at family gatherings.

BG

adpiucf 02-26-2013 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by badgeguy (Post 2205661)
I know that there are some instances of a founders offspring or grandchild joining a seperate organization than the ones they founded.

That to me would seem a little awkward at family gatherings.

BG

Not if the founders are dead. ;)

happilyanchored 02-26-2013 10:10 PM

The great-something grandniece of one of our founders actually was a member of my chapter and graduated the year before I was a new member. They had an article in the ANCHORA this summer about our founder's relatives who ended up joining Delta Gamma.

glittergal1985 02-26-2013 10:22 PM

The granddaughter and great granddaughter of one of our founders were just initiated at our centennial convention :)

AOII Angel 02-27-2013 12:29 AM

AOII has no Founder legacies. Only one of our four Founders had children, Helen, and her girls went to Barnard after sorority life was disbanded. :(

NutBrnHair 02-27-2013 11:17 AM

The great great grand niece of Chi Omega Founder Jobelle Holcombe was initiated into our chapter at Northwestern Univ. within the last 5 years.

amIblue? 02-27-2013 11:27 AM

I just hope that if the founder's legacy goes elsewhere, she is the one that chooses the other chapter, and not the chapter dropping her!

Can you just imagine the backlash for dropping a founder legacy?

AnchorAlumna 02-27-2013 11:54 AM

We had a Founder's....great-granddaughter, I think...come through rush. She dropped us, but somehow word got around that we had dropped her. That fire took years to stomp out!

Cheerio 02-27-2013 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel (Post 2205690)
AOII has no Founder legacies. Only one of our four Founders had children, Helen, and her girls went to Barnard after sorority life was disbanded. :(

While there are no direct legacies to your founders, what about great grand nieces as NutBrn mentions? Did Helen's sisters have daughters, etc.

nyapbp 02-27-2013 12:34 PM

Sometimes they have to self-identify. Pi Phi has 12 founders, only about half had children. Keeping track of all possible combinations of relations would be a daunting task.

I realized one day that while I had met or corresponded with the great-great grandchildren of one of our founders, they had not known of each other. Sadly, when I realized this one had already passed away. (The founder had a daughter and a son. The daughter married and moved west; the son moved east. They each had children. Those children had children.) Perhaps if the internet was around 75 years ago the families would have connected. One of these women had some of the founder's items that she donated to our archives. She said she likely had them because she was a Pi Phi and her sisters had joined another organization (perhaps there wasn't a Pi Phi chapter where they went to school, I did not ask).

honeychile 02-27-2013 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ADPiEE (Post 2205656)
Yes for ADPi--I remember reading about one in a fairly recent (within a few years) issue of the Adelphean about this

Delta Chapter (University of Texas) seems to have the record number of Founder Legacies. A couple of our Founders didn't leave any children, so that makes it a bit more special.

When I was in school, we had a five-generation/Adelphean legacy. Sadly, she really didn't want to go greek, but she did pledge, was initiated at Convention, transferred schools, and was never heard from again. :(

AOII Angel 02-27-2013 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheerio (Post 2205746)
While there are no direct legacies to your founders, what about great grand nieces as NutBrn mentions? Did Helen's sisters have daughters, etc.

As far as I know, there are none.

tld221 03-04-2013 09:22 AM

None of our founders had children. As far as I know, one of our founder's nieces became a Soror.

RubyPanda 03-15-2013 06:27 AM

Wyman Legacy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheerio (Post 2205746)
While there are no direct legacies to your founders, what about great grand nieces as NutBrn mentions? Did Helen's sisters have daughters, etc.

As Elizabeth Heywood Wyman's great great grand niece, I can verify that AOII does have a member tied to the founder.

Titchou 03-15-2013 06:51 AM

While I've known her for some time, I had the honor of hearing the granddaughter of Mary Comfort Leonard speak at Founders Day in Tuscaloosa last Sunday. What a treat to hear her personal memories of her grandmother! And to see all the artifacts she brought with her. We also learned that one of her granddaughters will be going to college next year and is looking at Alabama. Since the Fraternity has her badge in the archives(a replacement she got at the 1909 Convention as her original one had been lost)1, their family members are initiated with it. Very cool!

carnation 03-15-2013 07:11 AM

Two great great granddaughters of one of Phi Mu's national founders were in the UGa chapter recently!

AOIIalum 03-15-2013 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RubyPanda (Post 2208296)
As Elizabeth Heywood Wyman's great great grand niece, I can verify that AOII does have a member tied to the founder.

Hello and welcome to GC! Please come introduce yourself in our AOII forum, we're glad to have you here.

FSUZeta 03-15-2013 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titchou (Post 2208297)
While I've known her for some time, I had the honor of hearing the granddaughter of Mary Comfort Leonard speak at Founders Day in Tuscaloosa last Sunday. What a treat to hear her personal memories of her grandmother! And to see all the artifacts she brought with her. We also learned that one of her granddaughters will be going to college next year and is looking at Alabama. Since the Fraternity has her badge in the archives(a replacement she got at the 1909 Convention as her original one had been lost)1, their family members are initiated with it. Very cool!

Fingers crossed that she attends Bama and pledges DG! How great would that be to have a founders great-great(?) granddaughter AND get to see that very special badge at initiation?

Titchou 03-15-2013 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by FSUZeta (Post 2208373)
Fingers crossed that she attends Bama and pledges DG! How great would that be to have a founders great-great(?) granddaughter AND get to see that very special badge at initiation?

I think I would faint dead away!

AOII Angel 03-15-2013 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RubyPanda (Post 2208296)
As Elizabeth Heywood Wyman's great great grand niece, I can verify that AOII does have a member tied to the founder.

Well that is pretty cool.

badgeguy 03-15-2013 11:11 PM

In Kappa Sigma, we had several descendants of the founders become members of the fraternity, and I think there are one or two descendants still around who are members, but back in the 1980s the fraternity had something really cool happen. The spiritual founder of Kappa Sigma was an old Greek Scholar named Manual Chrysoloras who came to Italy in the 1400s to teach greek to the students.......

Anyway, in the 1980s one of the chapters actually initiated a guy who was a direct descendent of Chrysoloras! There was a bunch of articles written in the magazine about it and he attended many conclaves before moving back to Greece. I wish I had been alive to have been able to experience that!

BG

momof4girls 03-16-2013 07:40 AM

I believe I am a distant great granddaughter of one of the founders of Alpha Delta Pi. All the research I've been able to find online points to a direct lineage, but I really need to make a trip to Georgia to search archives and verify 100%. While I am not an ADPi, my mother is. Mom didn't become related until after she married my dad.

dvs-dz 03-16-2013 10:43 AM

I know Julia Bishop Coleman's daughter and granddaughter are Delta Zetas. Beyond that, I don't know.

MysticCat 03-16-2013 02:05 PM

We have one Founder -- Ossian Everett Mills, "Father of Sinfonia." The original members of our Alpha chapter are referred to as charter members of the Fraternity.

Father Mills' great-great-grandson, Eric Mills, was initiated in 2008 by our Gamma Theta chapter (University of North Texas). I may be dreaming this -- I'm not finding any reference to it on the web -- but I seem to recall reading that he was not aware that his great-great-grandfather was the founder of Sinfonia when he pledged.

In addition, Father Mills' grandson, Arthur Mills, was initiated as a national honorary member (Alpha Alpha chapter) in connection with Founder's Day observances in Boston in October 2004. The honorary initiation was in recognition of the support and assistance he gave Fraternity leaders who were doing historical research in preparation for our 1998 Centennial. Mills, who was born about six years after Father Mills' death, was around 77 at the time of his initiation.


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