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It would be a way for chapters to take a second look at a PNM who hadn't been their first choice, much the same way we encourage PNM's to take a second look at a chapter they ranked lower. |
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https://www.npcwomen.org/resources/p...ate%202010.pdf it talks about flex lists on the second page. |
:D I do not have to understand any of this. I have AZ-AlphaXi to understand it for me. That is yet another benefit of our friendship!
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When I was in school, a woman came through who everyone knew was a direct descendant of a founder of another org. Do you really want to use up an invitation on her, even if she is super-awesome? Or would you rather invite back someone who is pretty-awesome, and really work to get the latter in your chapter? Obviously, this doesn't apply to groups who get to invite everyone, but in general, I don't think that "on the flex list" necessarily means "less desirable". |
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I don't understand this whole flex list thing, but I can't believe a chapter would be forced to invite back Lizzie Borden the Ax Murderer with the 0.1 GPA, even if this means they don't make quota. |
Remember when a GCer from one of the Bama chapters told us that on Bid Day, 4 girls they'd cut walked through their door? They had cut them but some "well-meaning" alum had sneaked these awful girls back on the list because she was afraid that the chapter wouldn't make quota.
Seems that sometimes, either alums OR Panhellenic can do a number on you. |
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The first bid list is usually alphabetical, but Suzie Zimmerman is as much on the first bid list as Polly Aaron. |
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The second bid list is in order of preference. #1 is the first girl the chapter wants if they get all of the the PNMs on their first bid list except for one. #2 is the second PNM they want if they don't get two PNMs on their first bid list or don't get #1 on the second bid list and so on. That is why the second bid list is NOT in alphabetical order. |
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decisions like the one discussed above would often be cleared thru a national officer before snap bids were offered.
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If/when that unsettling call comes in the wee hours of the morning that it's necessary to snap in order to make quota, it's up to the chapter officers and advisors to make a decision and make it fast. I agree it isn't appropriate to issue a snap bid to someone the chapter obviously couldn't stand. However in a big competitive Recruitment, there are often unmatched girls to choose from who the chapter did like and would fit in well. |
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I seem to recall her saying that they never saw those particular advisors again, lol. |
LOL. Shit happens. It's not the end of the world. Apparently that chapter needs a better education process for its advisers. Missing quota by 4 isn't the end of the world...neither is taking in 4 women your chapter isn't in love with when the chapter is as huge as those chapters tend to be.
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I think this happened in the 80s or 90s when the chapters were much smaller plus the chapter isn't there anymore so 4 girls might've been quite noticeable but still! How dare those advisors do that?
I have recently heard of several stories where mystery girls turned up in chapter rooms on Bid Day and there were their names on the bid lists and no one--the chapter, the advisors, or PH--could account for that, although the girl had been cut earlier in the process. What do you say once she's there? "Hello, excuse me but we really didn't want you and you cal leave now?" Oh, I'm really glad I didn't have to deal with that situation. |
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But again though, that's part of the learning process of RFM...not just to get the PNMs to open their minds, but to get the chapters to weigh how much they want to keep "Super PNM" around, when all the other chapters are falling all over her too. |
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Also, I hate the idea that there are "computer errors", but I know that we have made mistakes due to identical names. PNM's have numbers, along with names, but we are talking about hundreds of women and 5-6 people doing invite lists in the wee hours of the morning. |
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If I may jump in with a question, how does a chapter come up with their first bid list with respect to quota ranges? With flex lists and quota ranges, do the chapters receive a “minimum quota number” (for lack of a better phrase) for their “first bid list” before they turn in their bid lists? And as such, the chapter lists up to the “low number” of PNMs on their first bid list? For example. Quota might initially be set at 25. Yet to help maximize the number of PNMs placed and to help each chapter reach quota, this initially set quota of 25 might be increased to 26 or reduced to 24. Thus the quota range would then be 24 to 26. If I understand correctly, if there was no quota range and quota was set at 25 and the chapter invited to and had 50 attend their preference, then the first bid list would have 25 PNMs listed (in alphabetical order), and the second bid list 25 PNMs (ranked 1 to 25). But if there is a quota range of 24 to 26, would the first bid list have 24 names listed (alphabetical), and the second bid list the remaining 26 names (ranked)? Then in an effort to help maximize placement etc., quota is set at 25, the number one PNM from the second bid list would “move” onto the first bid list. If quota is set at 26, then the first two PNMs on the second bid list would “move” onto the first bid list. Or are there three seperate quota lists - one for each potential quota – provided to the College Panhellenic? For example, in case quota is set at 24, “List A” would have 24 names (alpha order) on the first bid list and 26 on the second bid list (ranked). “List B” would have 25 names (alpha order) on first bid list, 25 names (ranked) on second bid list. “List C” would have 26 names (alpha order) on first bid list and 24 names (ranked) on second bid list. |
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