AI Question
 

Hi everyone,
So I'm posting here because I'm specifically wondering how AI works for Kappa. I'm looking into it, and I've been able to find info about it for most other organizations, but all the info I've found for Kappa is old, so I don't know how accurate it is. I'm hoping to start grad school in the fall, so that's another avenue I'm looking to explore.
Anyway, thanks for any help you can offer, I appreciate any info. :)

Please keep in mind that for many NPC groups, the group approaches you, not you approaching it. If you read the threads, it is an honor bestowed rather than a second bite at the proverbial apple. It may not be your intention, but your post (absent further information) comes across a bit like windowshopping at the mall after payday.

You probably won't get many answers about AI here. Especially for one specific group. AI generally isn't something sought out. Most (not all, but the vast majority) alumnae initiates have very strong ties to a group previously and are approached about AI rather than the interested party approaching the organization.

Good Luck

Why do you want to AI with any sorority?

Kappa does not offer AI, but thanks for appropriating one of our symbols for your user name.

Hm, interesting. Did Kappa used to offer AI?

Not to my knowledge, which only dates a couple of decades. Although we will initiate alumnae of locals that are absorbed as colonies. It's a very contentious issue for many of my sisters both pro and con. I see both sides of the issue, so I keep my mouth shut in general when it's being discussed. Also, we can pledge graduate students, but I don't think I've ever heard of a grad student pledging.

So, I guess my answer should have been more thorough, but if you don't fall into one of those categories, you are out of luck. I just got irritated by the OP's user name.

Oh, I completely understand. I'm just curious as to what "research" the OP has done, because it seems to me she "found" info that essentially doesn't exist. Either that, or she misinterpreted information regarding what you've described above.

It could be that she found info saying Kappa doesn't do it, and is hoping that has changed.

Most likely. From the time we started discussing AI on here - heck, it might have even been in the GreekSource days - it's been asserted that except for alums of a colonized local, Kappa does not do it, point blank period.

If this isn't too nebby - will you guys initiate, say, the founding sisters of a 10 year old local that became a chapter? Or is it just the girls who are collegiate members at the time that can be initiated?

I think it's any alumnae of a local; it doesn't matter how long ago they were involved. I know we have an advisor at a chapter that we chartered from a local in the early/mid 90s. She was active with the local in the 70s and initiated when we chartered.

So, the only way for her to realize her dream of AI'ing into Kappa is to

1. Start a local sorority at her graduate school campus;
2. Hope that her grad school campus opens for extension some day;
3. Hope that Kappa decides to present there and gets selected to colonize;
4. Hope that Kappa decides to absorb the local rather than starting a new colony from scratch.

That's a lot of wishin' and hopin'.

So, the only way for her to realize her dream of AI'ing into Kappa is to

1. Start a local sorority at her graduate school campus;
2. Hope that her grad school campus opens for extension some day;
3. Hope that Kappa decides to present there and gets selected to colonize;
4. Hope that Kappa decides to absorb the local rather than starting a new colony from scratch.

That's a lot of wishin' and hopin'.

Unless there is a chapter at her grad school that also happens to be willing to pledge a grad student. We can pledge grad students; I've just never heard of it actually happening.

So it sounds like the OP aspirations of membership aren't very likely. Its interesting the OP 1. included a KKG symbol as part of her name, 2. curious why she's solely focused on KKG, and 3. if she wanted to be apart of a greek org, why didn't she pursue this as an undergrad?

I don't personally have any issue with someone wanting to AI but its just strange the approach that was taken. The OP would have been better served pursuing the other posts here to perhaps get some insight.

Sorry, but my username actually has nothing to do with owls being one of the symbols of the sorority... last I checked, they're related to a lot more than just Kappa... but hey, thanks for jumping to conclusions and getting pissed about it.


1. Although I am aware that it is a Kappa symbol, that's not why it was chosen. Like, nothing to do with it. Seriously.
2. I'm not focused solely on Kappa, Kappa was just the only one I couldn't find information about, so I thought I'd ask. Other sororities that I looked at had the information plainly available on their websites, so I didn't need to ask anyone about them.
3. I didn't have the opportunity to go greek in undergrad. It just isn't something available to everyone, although I really wish that it had been available to me.

Owlette, it is a perfectly reasonable conclusion for the GCers to draw and undeserving of your snippy reply. At best, your selection of a user name was a bit unwise. I will draw your attention to post #3. Read it again carefully and consider what very strong ties you have with an organization.

Good luck with grad school. That is probably where your focus should be.

QFP

This.

Did you attend a school with no Greek life?

Do you mean that you could not join a sorority as an undergrad because of financial reasons? If so, that does not mean that membership was "not available you." Not being able to afford something is completely different.

Kappa doesn't have exclusive rights to owls you know. I used my car keys today, and that doesn't make me a Kappa wannabe. Why would anyone, on a Greek site, in a thread about AIing into Kappa, presume that the poster was appropriating a KKG symbol? That is so ridiculous and mean. Kappas think everything is about them.

It may be because she asked in a Kappa forum. Had she asked elsewhere, I may have thought both Kappa & Chi Omega.

However, and this is just me (and those that follow me on Facebook know) I'm very pro-Greek and it consumes a large part of my thinking due to what I do. Thus for me, someone posting on a Greek message board with a certain color, symbol, mascot, etc., my brain will automatically think Greek first, and school second. Unless they flat out say something to the contrary, nothing else will enter my brain. :)

I think their response was a little snippier than need be as well. For all anyone knows, it could have something to do with my family, or with a different organization. Anyway, I didn't come here to argue about my username. What my username is is irrelevant to this post, and it's very silly to argue, or get offended, by it. I'm sorry if anyone on here was offended because it's a Kappa symbol, but please accept my explanation that it wasn't chosen having to do anything with Kappa.
Thank you to anyone who answered my question. I only came here looking to find out about something I thought might be a potential option for me, and make sure I had accurate information about it. I appreciate your help.

To your first point, I said that I was irritated by your username, not pissed off. If I had been pissed off, I would have said something along the lines of "Kappa does not do AI, but thanks for appropriating one of our symbols in your username, you presumptuous twit." But I didn't say that.

I do know that Kappa does not reserve the rights to all things owl. We have to share with our Panhellenic sisters of Chi Omega and Mother Nature.

Perhaps a better way for you to broached your question would have been to have chosen a username free of owls, lions, pandas, anchors,angels, kites, arrows, penguins, giraffes, etc. (in other words, generic) and then said something like this:

Hi! I'm generic username. I was unable to pursue sorority membership while I was an undergraduate. Consequently, I am now interested in AI. During the course of my research, I have found information about AI for many sororities, but I have not been successful in finding out if this is an option for Kappa Kappa Gamma. Does Kappa allow AI? Thanks for your help!

Love,
Generic username

Kappa has had her fair share of weirdos and stalkers, so your post set off an alarm with me.

Good luck in your pursuit of AI!

You thought my response was snippy?! Whoa.... have you read your own posts? My response was completely informative and wasn't attacking you, attacking your chosen username, or insulting in any way. I thought it would be helpful to know that you likely won't get many answers here. That way you wouldn't feel ignored or insulted by the lack of response.

I wish you luck in your search as well as grad school.

I am a troublemaker, you know.

Also, I heart you.

I just realized this is sarcasm. LOL.

I think a couple of you missed irishpipes' intended sarcasm.

If I wasn't already a sorority member, I would totally want to AI into yours. :p

I didn't mean that your response was snippy, I meant the original.

Dear amIblue?,
I'm sorry if my post came across as anything other than what was intended, and I'm sorry if I misinterpreted your response as something it was not. It sounded as though you were pissed to me, so my bad if that's not the case. I really didn't mean for my username to cause any offense or set off any alarms. Thank you for the information you've provided (which was very useful) and for your wishes of good luck.
Sorry for the miscommunication!
A.E.

It's all good. I hope things work out for you.

OP the topic of AI as you have seen is a bit of a hot button issue. As some had previously mentioned often someone from a sorority might approach a woman who they feel would be a good asset to the organization. I would encourage you to really sit down and think about why you want to AI, try and determine what if any connections you have to other greek women, and what you would have to offer to a greek org.