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Titchou 01-29-2020 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by navane (Post 2473203)
73 snap bids were offered? :eek: If that was the case, then not many accepted?

Suicides can't get Snap Bids. COB, yes, but not Snap.

navane 01-29-2020 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Titchou (Post 2473204)
Suicides can't get Snap Bids. COB, yes, but not Snap.

Ok...thank you because I was :eek: when I read that; but, IU is often in another league when it comes to recruitment quirks, so I had to ask. ForeverRoses specifically stated:

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Originally Posted by ForeverRoses (Post 2473187)
I was told (although I don’t see it written down) that everyone that SIPed and was not matched WAS offered a snap bid to sonewhere

So, maybe she meant to say they were offered COB bids because snap bids doesn't make any sense in this context. Even then, 73 COB bids offered between how many chapters? That seems like a lot.

Sororitysock 01-30-2020 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Titchou (Post 2473204)
Suicides can't get Snap Bids. COB, yes, but not Snap.

This is not correct. Those who SIP and fail to receive a bid to their desired chapter ARE eligible for snap bids. They just aren't eligible for quota additions. It's always been like this in RFM. See page 136 of the current Green Book.

• Women listing intentional single preferences on their membership recruitment acceptance binding agreement (MRABA) are eligible for snap bidding.

Titchou 01-30-2020 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Sororitysock (Post 2473208)
This is not correct. Those who SIP and fail to receive a bid to their desired chapter ARE eligible for snap bids. They just aren't eligible for quota additions. It's always been like this in RFM. See page 136 of the current Green Book.

• Women listing intentional single preferences on their membership recruitment acceptance binding agreement (MRABA) are eligible for snap bidding.

You are correct and I was wrong-mea culpa! Long day with no heat at work had my brain frozen!

MSKKG 01-30-2020 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Titchou (Post 2473214)
You are correct and I was wrong-mea culpa! Long day with no heat at work had my brain frozen!

NO HEAT?!? Bless your heart (in the nice way--HAHAHA!!!). Hope that problem has been fixed.

ForeverRoses 01-30-2020 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by navane (Post 2473203)
73 snap bids were offered? :eek: If that was the case, then not many accepted?

correct. Not many of the snap bid invitations were accepted unfortunately. I guess some of the snap bid/SIP women were holding out for informal recruitment. Which for most of the participating chapters opened and closed in the blink of an eye.
Even with all of the changes in the past few years at IU, it is still competitive recruitment, mid-west style. With a quota of 56 and average chapter size around 200, if you don't have an open mind and you are stuck in a tier mentality of "I just didn't fit with them" then you may not end up Greek at all.

Iota_JWH 01-30-2020 02:23 PM

AOII took 56 new members from formal recruitment.

aephi alum 01-31-2020 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sororitysock (Post 2473208)
This is not correct. Those who SIP and fail to receive a bid to their desired chapter ARE eligible for snap bids. They just aren't eligible for quota additions. It's always been like this in RFM. See page 136 of the current Green Book.

• Women listing intentional single preferences on their membership recruitment acceptance binding agreement (MRABA) are eligible for snap bidding.

Is that a new thing with RFM? When I went through rush (yes, it was still called rush back in the Mesozoic Era) people who SIP'd were not eligible for snap bids. But it's entirely possible that Panhel on my campus didn't have a complete understanding of the rules.

GoldenAnchor 01-31-2020 08:52 PM

Page 132 from this link: https://www.npcwomen.org/wp-content/...nformation.pdf)

“All potential new members who attended at least one event during primary recruitment are eligible for snap bidding. Women listing intentional single preferences on their membership recruitment acceptance binding agreement (MRABA) are eligible for snap bidding.”

Anyone that participates in at least one event is eligible for a snap.

ETA: There is a portion that describes having people offered snap bids signing MRABA’s but it’s not a requirement to sign before getting a snap bid.

33girl 02-01-2020 01:55 AM

So in other words, the person who can’t get a snap is Susie your rugby teammate who wanted to join but didn’t want to go through rush. The only way Susie gets a bid is through COB. Mandy your roommate however, who only went through the first round and dropped out, is eligible to get a snap.

Also “SIP” is just the politically correct name of suiciding, which I dislike because it plays down what a serious decision suiciding really is.

ChioLu 02-02-2020 03:31 AM

Where is the LIKE button???

Forgetmenotivy 02-05-2020 10:59 AM

We need to remember snap bidding is only for those chapters not matching quota. So it is unlikely someone who dropped from formal recruitment would accept a bid from a chapter not making quota. The chances are decreased even more that the chapter the person wants is extending a bid to someone they dropped.

IndianaSigKap 02-05-2020 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Forgetmenotivy (Post 2473352)
We need to remember snap bidding is only for those chapters not matching quota. So it is unlikely someone who dropped from formal recruitment would accept a bid from a chapter not making quota. The chances are decreased even more that the chapter the person wants is extending a bid to someone they dropped.

Not always true. If RFM is set too tightly then it is entirely possible for a strong chapter to have to snap bid. If you're a strong recruiting chapter and you can only invite 2x quota to preference, you could easily miss quota by 1 or 2 if you have invited girls to preference who were legacies to their other pref chapter and rank their legacy chapters over yours. It happens more than you think because snap bids aren't always visible to the majority of the chapter.

Forgetmenotivy 02-05-2020 01:30 PM

I never said anything that was absolute. I used the word unlikely. The odds are further diminished that a top chapter missing quota by 1 or 2 and the pnm doing an sip would want the same thing. I have worked with RFM since it started. I know every once in a while a top chapter misses quota by 1 or 2 but that is not the norm.

SigmaCat 02-05-2020 01:31 PM

Weird stuff happens.

IIRC, someone recently posted a rush story that involved a snap bid (that ended up expiring before they could accept) from a mid-tier chapter they'd really wanted from the jump.

And some PNMs will have changes of heart about mid/lower tier chapters after dropping out. We definitely benefited from snaps.

Blue2 02-20-2020 10:22 PM

Can someone update here on ASA and D Phi E COB? A lot of concerned folks seeing that 10 on the other page for ASA.

Cookiez17 02-20-2020 11:03 PM

For ASA according to their instagram they're still hosting events and even the PHA themselves have been advertising for them too. Not too sure about DPhieE.

ForrestGrump 02-20-2020 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue2 (Post 2473747)
Can someone update here on ASA and D Phi E COB? A lot of concerned folks seeing that 10 on the other page for ASA.

DPhiE pledged 32 during formal recruitment. Following informal recruitment, I heard that they pledged 14 or 15 more women.

I had heard initially that ASA pledged ten during formal recruitment, but then I heard that they pledged four women during formal. Following informal recruitment, the chapter posted a picture on instagram with 20 new pledges. So not sure if the pledge class after formal + informal is 20 or 24. And that doesn't take into consideration any additional COB they may have done in the weeks since informal ended.

ForeverRoses 02-21-2020 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ForrestGrump (Post 2473754)
DPhiE pledged 32 during formal recruitment. Following informal recruitment, I heard that they pledged 14 or 15 more women.

I had heard initially that ASA pledged ten during formal recruitment, but then I heard that they pledged four women during formal. Following informal recruitment, the chapter posted a picture on instagram with 20 new pledges. So not sure if the pledge class after formal + informal is 20 or 24. And that doesn't take into consideration any additional COB they may have done in the weeks since informal ended.

Informal hasn't ended yet. I believe that those offered and accepted bids during informal have a Panhellenic orientation the beginning on March and PHA would like for informal to have concluded by then, but there is no rule that sororities have to stop. Informal can continue until the last day of the semester if the sorority so choses.

ForrestGrump 02-21-2020 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ForeverRoses (Post 2473765)
Informal hasn't ended yet. I believe that those offered and accepted bids during informal have a Panhellenic orientation the beginning on March and PHA would like for informal to have concluded by then, but there is no rule that sororities have to stop. Informal can continue until the last day of the semester if the sorority so choses.

Yes, I was referring to the open invitation, informal recruitment events that ASA and DPhiE held the week after formal recruitment ended. I understand that they may continue doing COB throughout the semester.

Blue2 02-22-2020 08:42 PM

Thanks. Does anyone know the reason why D Phi E is moving out the Tri Delt house?

Sister Havana 02-22-2020 10:26 PM

They are? I knew TPA was moving out of their house and going back to being unhoused, but I didn't know DPhiE was moving out too.

MomIU 02-23-2020 08:34 AM

Dphie has a 5 year lease they are only on year 2 or 3 with option to extend 2years. They are not moving out.


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