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IndianaSigKap 01-20-2020 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rod D (Post 2472890)
Most will not agree, but I believe IU is out to eventually eliminate greek life altogether. An uber competitive recruitment process will only help that. Add greek agreement which are unworkable and designed to cause "violations." It won't be this year or next, but it's coming one day.

As for sorority recruitment, it seems to me that girls need to be strategic and realistic in who they target. Very similar to college admissions -- don't just apply to the most competitive schools. It's a tough process. Good luck to all.

Nailed it.

AZTheta 01-20-2020 06:00 PM

The number of PNMs dropping has nothing to do with the number of chapters at IU (or any other campus). Young women have the right to decide not to continue with the process if they don't get what they want. *shrug* This is "mutual selection", is it not?

Having Tri Delta and Tri Sigma return to IU would give the PNMs two more options. I don't see that as negative in the slightest. ETA: we'd still see PNMs dropping, even with all 26 NPC member sororities on campus. That's a fact.

FYI: pulling a charter or closing a chapter doesn't necessarily have anything to do with "something really bad...going on". It could be due to low membership numbers or scholarship issues, for example. If you've been around for more than a few minutes, you'd know this. In every single case, closing a chapter is incredibly painful for everyone (actives, alumnae, families and friends). I know about it. Trust me. It really hurts.

BBH, I totally question the veracity of that mom's statement. If IU is following NPC recruitment policies, then her daughter would have been eligible to be a quota addition.

Definition of terms: "snap bids" are offered in the very brief time period between the end of the last preference party and the start of bid day activities. Please refer to the NPC MOI for specifics.

PGD-GRAD 01-20-2020 06:23 PM

It’s still that damned “pairing BS” that causes much of constant tier hysteria. From the start of school so much drama and comparisons are drawn over who is paired whom at Homecoming, Little 5 and various other events.
Sororities actually seem to gain self worth by being asked by “top tier” fraternities and disparage other sororities who get “leftover” fraternities. Fraternities, likewise, brag during rush about hanging out with “top tier” girls. It’s NUTS!

All it would take would be Greek Life saying: “No. We are drawing for pairs this year. And if you get the same house for two events, you re-draw.” ONE YEAR and then it would be the new normal. Sure...there would be bitching, but it’s certainly worth a try. Something has to change.


(IndianaSigKap might weigh in...perhaps my view is too simplistic.)

IUMomof2 01-20-2020 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by hiro11 (Post 2472875)
4. Consider making the Greek system bigger at IU. I know there are many factors here, but having only 50-60% (from what I've heard) of women get a bid seems pretty tight. Maybe offer "social membership" or something similar?

So I can definitely see where that seems like a good idea when you look at it from just coming in...1800-2000 women vying for 1200 spots. The problem is, we consistently have 2-3 chapters (if not more) who do not make quota. That means they are sitting there with open spots that the PNMs do not want to take, because they went through rush with the hopes of getting into a specific few chapters. If they get cut from those chapters, they drop out.

If chapters were filling their quotas and women weren't getting because of that, I can definitely see an argument for expanding the system. But I remember my time back at IU in the 90's. We went through expansion back then. I believe the last chapter added when I was there was SSS. My chapter's rush numbers fell through the floor. Because even though there are sooo many women going through rush, there are a few who are willing to consider ALL the sororities as a choice. So you add more sororities and it seems to me you are spreading thin the number of women willing to go to these newer chapters. Just my opinion.

33girl 01-20-2020 07:21 PM

Quota is the number of women at pref divided by number of sororities. Period. Mathematically, there is a spot for everyone.

If women choose not to take a bid offered or put a group on their bid card, that’s their prerogative.

Rod D 01-20-2020 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by PGD-GRAD (Post 2472894)
It’s still that damned “pairing BS” that causes much of constant tier hysteria. From the start of school so much drama and comparisons are drawn over who is paired whom at Homecoming, Little 5 and various other events.
Sororities actually seem to gain self worth by being asked by “top tier” fraternities and disparage other sororities who get “leftover” fraternities. Fraternities, likewise, brag during rush about hanging out with “top tier” girls. It’s NUTS!

All it would take would be Greek Life saying: “No. We are drawing for pairs this year. And if you get the same house for two events, you re-draw.” ONE YEAR and then it would be the new normal. Sure...there would be bitching, but it’s certainly worth a try. Something has to change.


(IndianaSigKap might weigh in...perhaps my view is too simplistic.)

I can't see "forced pairs" working. What happens when you pair the Academic house with the Animal house? Like minded sororities pair with like minded fraternities. Plus, these days the risks are too great to associate with people you don't have an established friendship with.

If you want to break down the barriers you need events which allow all the greek houses to mingle. Something like a greek week or block party. Close down Jordan. Hire some bands/Djs. The administration won't allow it because they are trying to tone down the IU party reputation.

APhi2KD 01-20-2020 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rod D (Post 2472899)
I can't see "forced pairs" working. What happens when you pair the Academic house with the Animal house? Like minded sororities pair with like minded fraternities. Plus, these days the risks are too great to associate with people you don't have an established friendship with.

Works well at my daughter’s school.

hiro11 01-20-2020 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rod D (Post 2472890)
Most will not agree, but I believe IU is out to eventually eliminate greek life altogether. An uber competitive recruitment process will only help that. Add greek agreement which are unworkable and designed to cause "violations." It won't be this year or next, but it's coming one day.

I can't necessarily agree that IU is trying to kill Greek life, but the number of houses on some sort of disciplinary action is definitely eye-opening:
https://studentaffairs.indiana.edu/g...ry-status.html

It certainly seems like the administration is taking frat/sorority discipline very seriously and has been for several years now. Things we heard during orientation reinforced this perception. I think all big universities are struggling with just what to do here.

33girl 01-20-2020 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rod D (Post 2472899)
I can't see "forced pairs" working. What happens when you pair the Academic house with the Animal house? Like minded sororities pair with like minded fraternities. Plus, these days the risks are too great to associate with people you don't have an established friendship with.

If you want to break down the barriers you need events which allow all the greek houses to mingle. Something like a greek week or block party. Close down Jordan. Hire some bands/Djs. The administration won't allow it because they are trying to tone down the IU party reputation.

It’s building a float and/or working on a race, not being married. I don’t think anyone is saying that long established connections between specific fraternities and sororities will vanish, but if it’s to the point when Fantastic Fraternity won’t even respond to an overture from So-So Sorority (or vice versa) it flies in the face of all the claims about Greek life being a great way to meet all different kinds of people.

And the only “risk” nowadays is being 80 feet up the ass of a group and being left high and dry when their charter gets pulled.

Plus I don’t know the last time you were at a block party, but people hang out with the people they know. They certainly don’t all get in a circle and sing Kum Ba Yah.

33girl 01-20-2020 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cookiez17 (Post 2472886)
Yeah it was really sad especially reading how they were on suspension for a good while and nationals was the one to pull the charter, not the school, which means something really bad must've been going on.

Actually where sororities are concerned, it’s very much the other way around.

Rod D 01-21-2020 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by hiro11 (Post 2472903)
I can't necessarily agree that IU is trying to kill Greek life, but the number of houses on some sort of disciplinary action is definitely eye-opening:
https://studentaffairs.indiana.edu/g...ry-status.html

It certainly seems like the administration is taking frat/sorority discipline very seriously and has been for several years now. Things we heard during orientation reinforced this perception. I think all big universities are struggling with just what to do here.

Many of those "infractions" are bogus and based on conduct that many would consider normal for college aged kids.

Rod D 01-21-2020 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2472904)
It’s building a float and/or working on a race, not being married. I don’t think anyone is saying that long established connections between specific fraternities and sororities will vanish, but if it’s to the point when Fantastic Fraternity won’t even respond to an overture from So-So Sorority (or vice versa) it flies in the face of all the claims about Greek life being a great way to meet all different kinds of people.

And the only “risk” nowadays is being 80 feet up the ass of a group and being left high and dry when their charter gets pulled.

Plus I don’t know the last time you were at a block party, but people hang out with the people they know. They certainly don’t all get in a circle and sing Kum Ba Yah.

Not sure when the last time IU greeks built floats. But a large event allows the dude from ABC who knows the girl in XYZ to introduce some of his brothers to some of her sisters in passing. It could be 5 mins or 25 mins of conversation, but it begins to break down the barriers. Then the overture isn't a "cold call" but a follow up and the ice has been broken.

33girl 01-21-2020 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Cookiez17 (Post 2472886)
Yeah it was really sad especially reading how they were on suspension for a good while and nationals was the one to pull the charter, not the school, which means something really bad must've been going on.

Actually where sororities are concerned, it’s very much the other way around.

Cookiez17 01-21-2020 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2472908)
Actually where sororities are concerned, it’s very much the other way around.

Oh I can see why as terrible as it sounds.

IndianaSigKap 01-21-2020 09:17 AM

I have read through the posts regarding pairing and wanted to add a few comments to mix. I was social chair back in the day and I went out of my way to have events with different fraternities so that our chapter could get to know theirs. Never once did I have a fraternity not want to plan an event nor did we ever have a fraternity not show up. Maybe times were different or people were different, but I do wonder how often the social chairs actually seek out chapters with whom they don't normally mix? We are placing blame on the organization as a whole, but maybe the socials aren't going out of their comfort zone enough or executive officers aren't supporting reaching out.

I like the idea of a Greek Week that I think Rod D suggested. We did this when I was in school and you were paired with fraternities for different events like a relay run, co-ed volleyball, tug of war, etc. You might be paired with one group for one event and then another group for a different event. It was a lot of fun and you wanted the points, so you hoped you were paired with a chapter that had some athletic members. Something like this could easily be done in the fall when the weather is nicer. If chapters knew they might only spend an hour or two with a new group, it might not be so daunting.

The random pair idea is one that has been kicked around for years, but is never implemented. I understand the hesitation, but it could also be done pretty easily. Instead of all paired events being parties, chapters could pair for other events such as a Saturday helping build at Habitat for Humanity, after school tutoring at the Boys and Girls Club, a fundraising night for IUDM at a local restaurant. If a fraternity and sorority paired for events similar to the ones I mentioned above, they might get to know each other and accomplish something positive for the community while getting some good PR. I believe chapters can only have an official pair like every two weeks, if they do the philanthropy pair let them earn another social pair. Give them an incentive to try. Or at the social pairs have a sign in sheet and if a certain percentage of your chapter doesn't attend, then you lose an event. Make it a reasonable percentage like 33% or 40%. That will allow for students who are going home, have academic responsibilities like I-core, illness, etc.

I do believe that if chapter were forced to mix to a small extent the Greek system would benefit. At least, if nothing else, some of the stereotypes would be debunked.

Just my two cents.

GreekOne 01-21-2020 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by IndianaSigKap (Post 2472913)
I have read through the posts regarding pairing and wanted to add a few comments to mix. I was social chair back in the day and I went out of my way to have events with different fraternities so that our chapter could get to know theirs. Never once did I have a fraternity not want to plan an event nor did we ever have a fraternity not show up. Maybe times were different or people were different, but I do wonder how often the social chairs actually seek out chapters with whom they don't normally mix? We are placing blame on the organization as a whole, but maybe the socials aren't going out of their comfort zone enough or executive officers aren't supporting reaching out.

I like the idea of a Greek Week that I think Rod D suggested. We did this when I was in school and you were paired with fraternities for different events like a relay run, co-ed volleyball, tug of war, etc. You might be paired with one group for one event and then another group for a different event. It was a lot of fun and you wanted the points, so you hoped you were paired with a chapter that had some athletic members. Something like this could easily be done in the fall when the weather is nicer. If chapters knew they might only spend an hour or two with a new group, it might not be so daunting.

The random pair idea is one that has been kicked around for years, but is never implemented. I understand the hesitation, but it could also be done pretty easily. Instead of all paired events being parties, chapters could pair for other events such as a Saturday helping build at Habitat for Humanity, after school tutoring at the Boys and Girls Club, a fundraising night for IUDM at a local restaurant. If a fraternity and sorority paired for events similar to the ones I mentioned above, they might get to know each other and accomplish something positive for the community while getting some good PR. I believe chapters can only have an official pair like every two weeks, if they do the philanthropy pair let them earn another social pair. Give them an incentive to try. Or at the social pairs have a sign in sheet and if a certain percentage of your chapter doesn't attend, then you lose an event. Make it a reasonable percentage like 33% or 40%. That will allow for students who are going home, have academic responsibilities like I-core, illness, etc.

I do believe that if chapter were forced to mix to a small extent the Greek system would benefit. At least, if nothing else, some of the stereotypes would be debunked.

Just my two cents.

All of this yes, 100%. It really needs to be driven by Panhellenic and IFC. It would improve the Greek system tremendously.

On a completely different note, do you IndianaSigKap know how many houses, if any, decline quota additions? There was some discussion about this on the FB group and I was wondering if that is happening at IU?

IndianaSigKap 01-21-2020 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by GreekOne (Post 2472914)
All of this yes, 100%. It really needs to be driven by Panhellenic and IFC. It would improve the Greek system tremendously.

On a completely different note, do you IndianaSigKap know how many houses, if any, decline quota additions? There was some discussion about this on the FB group and I was wondering if that is happening at IU?

I have been told that since they are using all of the RFM rules this year, all chapters can accept QAs, no chapter will be allowed to decline. Given the number of drops and SIPs, I would guess that most every chapter will make quota, which I speculated to be somewhere between 54 and 58.

AZTheta 01-21-2020 11:04 AM

Bottom line: for whatever reason(s), PNMs drop. And they cry, blame the system, yadayadayada, and their parents complain. Blah blah blah. It's nothing like it was when Indiana held onto bed rush (shudder). THAT was cruel and brutal. Indiana did change. It took a Herculean effort and campaign, and quite a lot of time, but the change did come. I hope Amy Kates is smiling in heaven.

"Forced mixing" may well need to be implemented. As long as there are alumni (male and female) holding onto their "glory days" and perpetuating old practices and exclusivity for the new generations, there'll be challenges. Look at Ole Miss and Bama and Texas, folks. I do have a lot of optimism for the "millennials" myself. I especially admire their sassiness and their "okay Boomer" attitude.

So, the dogs bark, but the caravan moves on. IndianaSigKap, time for a massage and an adult beverage!

33girl 01-21-2020 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by IndianaSigKap (Post 2472915)
I have been told that since they are using all of the RFM rules this year, all chapters can accept QAs, no chapter will be allowed to decline. Given the number of drops and SIPs, I would guess that most every chapter will make quota, which I speculated to be somewhere between 54 and 58.

Are they any closer to adopting a system wide chapter total?

ForeverRoses 01-21-2020 01:23 PM

I was told this past weekend that Women's Panhellenic has suggested random pairings for homecoming and/or little 5 and that the IFC flatly refused to consider it. So sadly, it is the fraternities that are blocking it. It would be lovely if the sororities flat out refused pairs unless the IFC changed it's mind, however they would all have to agree and stick to it.

No word on chapter total. However since informal recruitment has such a negative stigma (a holdover from bed rush days when smaller = better) few want to do it, so as long as you have retention and make quota, the chapters tend to be similar sizes.

ASTalumna06 01-21-2020 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverRoses (Post 2472921)
I was told this past weekend that Women's Panhellenic has suggested random pairings for homecoming and/or little 5 and that the IFC flatly refused to consider it. So sadly, it is the fraternities that are blocking it. It would be lovely if the sororities flat out refused pairs unless the IFC changed it's mind, however they would all have to agree and stick to it.

No word on chapter total. However since informal recruitment has such a negative stigma (a holdover from bed rush days when smaller = better) few want to do it, so as long as you have retention and make quota, the chapters tend to be similar sizes.

I don't really understand what these pairings are for (homecoming? mixers?), but all the sororities should band together and pair with each other. Leave the fraternities out of it if they want to pull this s***.

ForeverRoses 01-21-2020 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 2472922)
I don't really understand what these pairings are for (homecoming? mixers?), but all the sororities should band together and pair with each other. Leave the fraternities out of it if they want to pull this s***.

I agree with that!

The pairings basically mean who you party with for the week for homecoming and the week of little 5 & quals. The other pairs are basically just one-off parties. Some have themes but it's just who you have a party with on Thursday, Friday or Saturday (or other days of the week)

Rod D 01-21-2020 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 2472922)
I don't really understand what these pairings are for (homecoming? mixers?), but all the sororities should band together and pair with each other. Leave the fraternities out of it if they want to pull this s***.

Homecoming and little 500 are the two biggest weeks at IU. It's not a 2 hour "mixer." They are week long pairs with events happening all week. And let's face it, they are big party weeks. There is a lot of risk that week -- Asking them to pair with a house they don't really know is a big ask. There is no way IFC would agree to that ask.

IndianaSigKap 01-21-2020 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rod D (Post 2472925)
Homecoming and little 500 are the two biggest weeks at IU. It's not a 2 hour "mixer." They are week long pairs with events happening all week. And let's face it, they are big party weeks. There is a lot of risk that week -- Asking them to pair with a house they don't really know is a big ask. There is no way IFC would agree to that ask.

Pairs also refer to a one off party two a fraternity or sorority might have on the weekend, too, not just the pair for HC and Little 5. That's where some of the confusion comes in, as well.

Rod D 01-21-2020 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by IndianaSigKap (Post 2472926)
Pairs also refer to a one off party two a fraternity or sorority might have on the weekend, too, not just the pair for HC and Little 5. That's where some of the confusion comes in, as well.

Right, but it sounds like Panhellenic went right for the full montey asking for homecoming and little 5. They may want to start smaller next time.

PGD-GRAD 01-21-2020 03:29 PM

^^^ SEE? This is why I deferred to IndianaSigKap!!

She’s right on: pairing does NOT have to occur just for “major” campus events. Creating opportunities just to meet new people and establish avenues of communication is a worthy and certainly achievable goal. It might just help to lessen the ridiculous IU tier hysteria.

I wonder what will happen when some of these “super-fratty” guys and “insta-famous” ladies have to work closely with someone with whom they’d deem socially inferior? Or—horrors—have one for a boss?

Sciencewoman 01-21-2020 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by PGD-GRAD (Post 2472928)
I wonder what will happen when some of these “super-fratty” guys and “insta-famous” ladies have to work closely with someone with whom they’d deem socially inferior? Or—horrors—have one for a boss?

Hopefully they all have nice trust funds. The number one reason for being let go from a job is the inability to get along with co-workers.

Rod D 01-21-2020 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sciencewoman (Post 2472931)
Hopefully they all have nice trust funds. The number one reason for being let go from a job is the inability to get along with co-workers.

Come on. There is a big difference between working with people at a legitimate job and partying till all hours (doing things you probably shouldn't do) in college.

IUMomof2 01-21-2020 06:14 PM

Omg, I'm dying! I am about 2 seconds from violating about every Facebook rule and totally getting kicked off!

Some mom posted on the IU Sorority FB page that her daughter dropped from rush Sunday morning because of the 2 chapters she was invited back to. And then those two chapters offered her daughter snap bids and how insulting and ridiculous it was because they were the reason she dropped in the first place! People were asking her to clarify (I'm sure because no one could really believe she was saying what she was saying) which she doubled-down on. "No thanks, this (sic) two where (sic) after the first round a No for her. Looks like they have difficulties to get girls!!!" Yep, direct quote. From a mom. On a page where we obviously have MOMS OF GIRLS IN THOSE CHAPTERS!!!

I'm starting to see where it all comes from...:mad:

80sHoosier 01-21-2020 06:26 PM

I saw that too. She was very obnoxious! It looks like she has already disaffiliated herself from that facebook page. And I have the impression that her first language is not English, probably German? I suppose maybe this whole process was new to her, but no reason for her to be rude.

MomIU 01-21-2020 06:59 PM

Hello there, Let me start by saying my husband and I were never greek. However our daughter wanted this experience. So we supported it. My daughter is on the recruitment side of rush. I did see that post on the FB page. There are others on another thread on that page about how their daughters also dropped after pref. They proceeded to say how it hurt when those two sororities they dropped offered them snap bids. I have also seen the Greekrank site. These things that are said by IU's "finest" (incl. Moms and dads) about some of our daughters and sons chapters are awful. I am glad my daughter has found a great group of girls. But it is so distressing to see the comments. I am so very disappointed in the greek community at IU.

Rod D 01-21-2020 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MomIU (Post 2472936)
Hello there, Let me start by saying my husband and I were never greek. However our daughter wanted this experience. So we supported it. My daughter is on the recruitment side of rush. I did see that post on the FB page. There are others on another thread on that page about how their daughters also dropped after pref. They proceeded to say how it hurt when those two sororities they dropped offered them snap bids. I have also seen the Greekrank site. These things that are said by IU's "finest" (incl. Moms and dads) about some of our daughters and sons chapters are awful. I am glad my daughter has found a great group of girls. But it is so distressing to see the comments. I am so very disappointed in the greek community at IU.

It is foolish to believe that that site represent the IU greek community. Most of the people there aren't even in the greek system and probably don't go to IU (probably Purdue kids :) ). It's mostly people there just to stir stuff up.

MomIU 01-21-2020 07:44 PM

I would like to believe that. But however I know ALL the sororities check it. Also have kept a occasional eye and information gets posted regularly before it even is released. So it is well visited by the Greeks at IU. It also is VERY active. It is just to stir stuff up. But at what cost?

FSUZeta 01-21-2020 08:00 PM

Back to pairs- it is random at many universities and works just fine. The IU sororities were against RFM at one time. As my Panhellenic sister said, at least the sororities are trying to initiate change.

33girl 01-21-2020 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rod D (Post 2472925)
Homecoming and little 500 are the two biggest weeks at IU. It's not a 2 hour "mixer." They are week long pairs with events happening all week. And let's face it, they are big party weeks. There is a lot of risk that week -- Asking them to pair with a house they don't really know is a big ask. There is no way IFC would agree to that ask.

By constantly mentioning “risk” it really doesn’t reflect well on the people involved in the Greek system. And considering there have been lots of stories over the years about this or that risk management nightmare happening during little 5 week, asking a group you’re acquainted with doesn’t seem so foolproof either.

IUmom20 01-21-2020 08:05 PM

I saw that also. A few moms were quick to comment and put her in her place.

Oh a happy note.......it’s bid night! Anxiously awaiting good news. DD’s first choice is SK and her second is TPA. Since I can’t post on Facebook.....y’all are stuck with my excitement. Sorry in advance.

Sciencewoman 01-21-2020 08:18 PM

When does the hoopla commence tonight? :)

IUMomof2 01-21-2020 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 80sHoosier (Post 2472934)
I saw that too. She was very obnoxious! It looks like she has already disaffiliated herself from that facebook page. And I have the impression that her first language is not English, probably German? I suppose maybe this whole process was new to her, but no reason for her to be rude.

I think you're right. I wonder if she was a short-term member on the site. Honestly, I think most of the moms and dads I've seen posting on there have done their best to be considerate of everyone on the page, realizing that there are all sorts of people in all sorts of situations. I hadn't really seen anyone that outright rude until then.

Cookiez17 01-21-2020 08:34 PM

Well according to IU's Panhellenic instagram page rho gamma reveal is happening right now. So bids should be opened very soon.

clayton117 01-21-2020 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by IUmom20 (Post 2472944)
I saw that also. A few moms were quick to comment and put her in her place.

Oh a happy note.......it’s bid night! Anxiously awaiting good news. DD’s first choice is SK and her second is TPA. Since I can’t post on Facebook.....y’all are stuck with my excitement. Sorry in advance.

Yay, for your daughter, IUmom20. I hope you get a happy phone call in about 25 minutes:) It sounds like your daughter stuck it out and "trusted the process". My D is a sophomore on the other side, and she is at her house getting gussied up and pumped up to greet her new sisters and welcome them home. There are girls that will be greeting your girl with a lot of energy very soon too!

That IU FB page was getting very dramatic. Some mamas forgot their manners over there :( We are all so sensitive about our kids and their feelings, and with that I think they let common decency get away from them a little bit. Kudos to those that tried to straighten them out.

My D gave me numbers for how many they took which should give an idea for most chapters as they are maxed out. I can share after the bids come out if anyone wants to know.

The event was pushed to 8 and I think they usually get their bids about an hour later. have to go through the rho gam reveals, etc


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