"I'm rushing 'for' a certain chapter"
What is with all these girls lately who say they're "rushing for" a certain chapter"? I see it all over Facebook and PNMs even tell me that in person. Most whom I personally know haven't even met the members, they just like the webpage or the rumors or the colors.
Folks, that's not how NPC sorority recruitment works. Even if you do know some of the members of a certain group, nobody can guarantee that you'll get a bid; they know a lot of other girls too. The way it works at competitive schools is that you go to the parties and it's pretty much in the hands of the members from there on out, even if you're a legacy. Also, if members see you announcing on FB that you will only accept bids from Awesome Alpha or Bodacious Beta, you are likely dead in the water. Please take notice! |
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and oh, what long memories we have....
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What I don't understand is lack of discretion in general. Like, if I am interviewing for a new job, I don't go running around telling everyone that I am going to work for whatevercorp, or if I go out with a new guy once, I don't post his name everywhere. I know we talk about how many PNM's are top students, cheerleaders, pageant queens, whatever, but surly they have, at some point in their life, not gotten something they wanted.
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i think part of it is simply not knowing how recruitment works. There are many PNMs who are totally clueless and have no idea what goes on. Some of them legitimately think they have to choose one in the beginning.
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I'll give them a pass for wanting to join a group based on the colors. At least it's not based on gossip. :)
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I remember a few years back when my oldest was going through recruitment and she joined a FB group for girls interested in Recruitment. First mistake was the Admin didn't make it private and current members joined to scope out the PNM's. Second mistake, many girls posted " I'm rushing XYZ or PDQ only.
I have also had several requests for Recs where the girl says, " I'm only interested in the atrianglepis." Big, Big mistake, Huge! |
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I often wonder if the PNMs who do this are from a large sorority population or a small population. A large one where many people go greek and have opinions from that or small where they know nothing except the things the lone ABC in the community has said about groups.
I only really knew two members of NPC sororities and had little opinions about the others since they didn't say anything about other groups. On the other hand, if they had said "oh DEF is awful" I probably would have listened as I had no clue before GC. |
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I think misinformation is actually a big part of the "rushing for" mentality that people are seeing. I know the Clemson Panhellenic FAQ doesn't address how rush actually works beyond a perfunctory explanation of conversing with sisters. If I was a hypothetical PNM entering school with no friends or family in Greek Life I could easily see why it wouldn't be a big deal to post which group you want to join online. The power imbalance that exists in formal recruitment-PNMs rank, but chapters are the only ones who can cut-isn't really highlighted either, which leaves girls thinking they have a lot more say in which groups they return to than they do. In sum, I apologize for my cohort of teenage girls broadcasting their most likely misinformed opinions to the world for everyone to read and remember come recruitment, but keep in mind that we do not always make the best decisions at this age. |
Sidenote: if you want a good laugh (or to just be mortified at how ill-informed PNMs are) Twitter search "sorority rush" or "sorority recruitment" during recruitment season. |
I'm going to go on and say as well that a lot of Freshmen don't know what we know. At all.
I came from a non-Greek family. I straight up told another fraternity that I was rushing SigEp. Whoops. But I had absolutely no idea that that was taboo. I never had to prove myself to join an organization. We also didn't have Meet the Greeks or anything along the lines when I rushed. Ignorant? Sure. I wouldn't say stupid, though. |
Clemsongirl - you are too kind. The information they need is all over this site. In some cases by specific school. And there is an annual thread for Ole Miss for the last three years. Ignoring what is front of you is something entirely different.
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http://i39.tinypic.com/2s834hk.png and also this: http://i44.tinypic.com/j7avrs.png Hijack over. This happens at my school more than you would expect. I remember during fall recruitment a girl telling me she was an in house legacy to ABC and so she was only interested in them. She was going to be an ABC, or she was going to keep trying till she got it. And in the spring, there is a lot of "I only went to XYZ's party because other sororities suck" |
I think it's absolutely INSANE that someone would actually want a certain sorority based on their colors or mascot or something else really superficial. Hopefully if it happens, it's a very rare occurence. Maybe I wasn't a typical rushee, because I thought it was insane back in the day when I rushed. But then again, I had really good Rho Chis who kept emphasizing how important it was to figure out which group of women made you feel the most comfortable - "popular" house or not.
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I will confess that my 16-year-old self made grand decisions on which sororities I thought would be more desirable by their composites (did they wear the same thing or were they individuals), how many Greek letters (as opposed to Roman ones) were in each sorority;s name, and what their colors were. We fully discussed them at camp during the summer prior to rush, so it wasn't just my age, either. BUT! Once rush started, I realized immediately how superficial that all was, and made decisions based on compatibility.
While I realize that the young women coming here for the first or second time may not understand how terribly naive they sound, there's just too much information given on Greek Chat to ignore that lack of knowledge for very long. In other words, PNMs, in the name of all things sane, PLEASE read all of the stickies!!! |
IMO, it's crazy that girls open their mouths at all about which particular chapters they want to join (aside from telling their close friends and family).. especially before arriving at school. I will admit that when I had my first tiny inkling of wanting to join, I had a chapter or two in mind for partially superficial reasons (e.g. colors, letters, history, etc.), but at that point I was already at school, I had met some of the members, and I wasn't truly serious about going through recruitment. And even when I had members actively recruiting me and I knew that I definitely wanted a bid from the sisters who showed the most interest in me, I never made it a point to publicly announce that "I so want to be an AST!"
(And essentially, without realizing it at the time, I learned that meeting the members and learning what they were all about was the most important thing about recruitment, and about finding out where I truly fit in) I'm sure there were girls before the internet age that were more than willing to spill the beans, but it bears repeating that you should keep quiet and that social media is a.. Quote:
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Sometimes. Sometimes they're friends-of-friends whose posts just show up on my feed or whose stories I hear about. About half the time, it's someone I know. I have only known this to work out the way the girl wanted it once but then her school wasn't highly competitive.
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The summer before my son started college, he joined the Facebook group, "Samford class of 2012". There was a thread for people looking to find roommates, and one of the students had uploaded a questionnaire that asked among other things, whether the student was going to rush or not. The majority of the girls who filled out the questionnaire also spilled their guts on which sorority(ies) they were interested in. My daughter (going in to her junior year at Samford-and a sorority member) and I got a big kick out of the unyielding certainty that so many of the PNMs showed, that ABC or DEF was the place for them. There were even a few who said "any group but KLM". The funniest thing was that of the girls who completed recruitment, 9 times out of 10 the PNMs did not join the group they thought they were destined to and some who had said any group but "X", joined X.
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You point was anywhere near about the differences between fraternity and sorority recruitment because you already stated that what you said and did was taboo on your campus. People read what they feel like reading. smh |
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Hijak: My one year old was watching Barney the other day. The episode talked about how everyone should get a trophy, even if you loose. This is where this stuff starts. The TV was promptly shut off. Barney is now banned (and so is Calliou, but that is for different reasons).
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I'm embarrassed for the clueless ones who spread their desired chapters' names around the Internet, especially if there's nooo way they're going to end up there. Some of the clueless ones will remove everything like that from their social media and stop trumpeting it around town if someone sits down with them and enlightens them about discretion. (This is in the category of the Pocahontas song line about "things you never knew you never knew".)
It's tons worse when girls know it's ill-bred to do that and keep it up, especially when they do it because they're sure they deserve certain chapters only. |
Continuing your hijack, Maggie...
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Also, to elaborate, I told an NPHC org that I was rushing SigEp. So, had I not gotten a bid from SPE, I instantly ruined some of my chances. But nonetheless, my post was not at all in regards to how mush "easier" or different fraternity recruitment is or anything along those lines. I was just pointing out that the posts calling PNMs stupid were uncalled for. Ignorant? Sure. Quote:
----------------- Can we also all think for a minute how many of us on GC didn't EVER plan on going Greek? Or how many people didn't even know about Greek Life? And how many people don't have Greeks in their families? That's how PNMs make "dumb" mistakes. I promise you, a lot of girls (and guys) just don't know. |
Sorry, I just beg to differ. SEC Recruitment = Mordor. You need a posse, and you need one before you even contemplate SEC Recruitment. That info is all over the web, and your local alumnae panhellenic. Of course a clueless PNM might have as her primary source of information that site "which shall not be named," or some other silly similar craptastic site. If she is that naive, she won't make it to second round, just like Sean Bean doesn't make the second reel in most movies or series.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5...ymloo2_500.jpg I may be a Southerner but I'm also a secret geek Southerner. |
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