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*winter* 10-26-2021 05:22 AM

TV character wearing real life sorority merchandise
 
https://www.google.com/amp/s/sports....215917177.html

Not sure how to paste the whole article since Iím on my phone and copy/paste is weird but here is the link.

Just curious, how would you feel if this was your org? Is this a big deal?

FSUZeta 10-26-2021 09:27 AM

It would bother me, and I would hope that my organization would look into pursuing legal action, especially because it is so easy to create a fictitious sorority/fraternity and not step on anyone's toes. I don't blame the actress, however. This falls on the producers and their legal team.

ASTalumna06 10-26-2021 10:17 AM

Looks like someone is about to get sued!

Also, I know it's hard to read the tone of social media posts, but it seems like the actress is kind of being a b**** about the whole thing.

naraht 10-26-2021 10:36 AM

As a data point, Spike Lee's School Daze had a number of different real NPHC GLOs represented including Alpha Phi Alpha and Alpha Kappa Alpha and I don't believe that an effort was made to have members of the respective real GLOs wear those colors. (See the end of the Alpha Phi Alpha step show at https://youtu.be/WfPc8Ia7E20?t=84 for characters in Alpha Kappa Alpha wear.

Cheerio 10-26-2021 12:55 PM

Am I recalling correctly that some NPC groups may have used clout, or paid thru publicists, to have their letters mentioned and/or shown during various 1980s/early 90s films and tv shows? Because those mentions/showings used to happen a lot, and it wasn't all by accident and no one appeared to complain when it occurred.

This included close-ups of composites or close-ups of letters, then cutaways or pullbacks to the characters of the film. Nowadays when those films are on tv you don't always see those parts of the film where the NPC group appeared. The close-up is gone, and the character is shown after the pullback, but you can recall when the greek letters were once featured.

Some of those sightings may even be listed in the GC thread Finding Your Letters Somewhere You Didn't Expect.

Obviously IDK the facts of the current situation regarding the use of actual greekgroup letters, so cannot say whether there is a similar agreement between that group and the show's producers.

33girl 10-26-2021 01:15 PM

I think in this instance NPHC members are the ones who should offer their opinions and the rest of us should have a seat.

andthen 10-26-2021 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2487611)
I think in this instance NPHC members are the ones who should offer their opinions and the rest of us should have a seat.


THIS.

FSUZeta 10-26-2021 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2487611)
I think in this instance NPHC members are the ones who should offer their opinions and the rest of us should have a seat.

Why?

PKT4LIFE 10-26-2021 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheerio (Post 2487610)
Am I recalling correctly that some NPC groups may have used clout, or paid thru publicists, to have their letters mentioned and/or shown during various 1980s/early 90s films and tv shows? Because those mentions/showings used to happen a lot, and it wasn't all by accident and no one appeared to complain when it occurred.

This included close-ups of composites or close-ups of letters, then cutaways or pullbacks to the characters of the film. Nowadays when those films are on tv you don't always see those parts of the film where the NPC group appeared. The close-up is gone, and the character is shown after the pullback, but you can recall when the greek letters were once featured.

Some of those sightings may even be listed in the GC thread Finding Your Letters Somewhere You Didn't Expect.

Obviously IDK the facts of the current situation regarding the use of actual greekgroup letters, so cannot say whether there is a similar agreement between that group and the show's producers.

If my memory recalls, I think Delta Gamma was seen in the background (on a pennant?) on a couple episodes of Happy Days

Cookiez17 10-26-2021 08:42 PM

Tri Delta had a SNL skit to their name (which is a classic to me anyway.) Why didn't they just make up a "fake" greek org to avoid all of this like they did in Legally Blonde and other movies?

ASTalumna06 10-26-2021 08:52 PM

Many Greek orgs have their letters, signs, and insignia trademarked. For the show referenced in the article - which I've never seen - people argue that everyone has known since season one that characters were members of Greek orgs. I would imagine that just saying an organization's name wouldn't cause any trouble. However, once you start plastering the Greek letters, coat of arms, etc. on items or clothing without express permission of the national organization, you've now violated US trademark laws.

Perhaps with the SNL skit, for example, they had permission from Tri Delta? I wouldn't know. But if AKA didn't sign off on this, the actresses' responses seem rather flippant. Although, I can cut her some slack seeing as she's not Greek and perhaps doesn't know the ins and outs of what's acceptable.

*winter* 10-27-2021 12:49 AM

I feel like the actress in this situation is taking the brunt of this...we assume everyone else understands Greek letters and Greek traditions and not to use the letters if youíre not a member...but she may not have even realized this when she was handed the outfit that day. If anyone is responsible, itís the people who write the show.

Itís just dumb to do this when it would take five seconds to just make something up, another minute to do a quick internet search to make sure said organization doesnít exist, and just be done with it.

Low D Flat 10-27-2021 04:56 PM

Quote:

Perhaps with the SNL skit, for example, they had permission from Tri Delta?
That's parody. There's a little more legal leeway there.

33girl 10-27-2021 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by *winter* (Post 2487627)
I feel like the actress in this situation is taking the brunt of this...we assume everyone else understands Greek letters and Greek traditions and not to use the letters if youíre not a member...but she may not have even realized this when she was handed the outfit that day. If anyone is responsible, itís the people who write the show.

If she knew enough to jokingly say she was ďme phi meĒ in college and use phrases like ďcross the burning sands,Ē SHE KNOWS she crossed a line.

Re Happy Days, they used pinning songs from DG and ATO as part of a plot with Potsie and his girlfriend. Iím assuming people associated with the show had ties to those two groups. They really never talked about it again or showed anyone in letters or anything. Now when the boys were pledging a fraternity and were hazed and then blackballed, they used a fake name for that fraternity.

Itís one thing to have real Greek letters be part of a background, itís quite another to have them associated with an ongoing story or character.

Titchou 10-27-2021 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2487635)

Re Happy Days, they used pinning songs from DG and ATO as part of a plot with Potsie and his girlfriend. Iím assuming people associated with the show had ties to those two groups. They really never talked about it again or showed anyone in letters or anything. Now when the boys were pledging a fraternity and were hazed and then blackballed, they used a fake name for that fraternity.
.

Close, 33. One of the producers was a Beta Theta Pi - so they were mentioned. One of the production staff was a Delta Gamma - hence the references and the anchors.


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