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oldu
08-24-2008, 10:06 AM
The latest edition of U. S. News & World Report's rankings of top colleges & universities has been released. I have taken the top fifty universities and top twenty colleges to see which sororities have currently active chapters at them. I included any group that will colonize this fall.

For the record, 13 of the 70 institutions have never had national Greek organizations. Fifty of them currently have at least some NIC or NPC groups, although in a few cases they are a very minor impact on campus.

Listed below is each NPC sorority and the number of chapters currently at the nation's most prestigious institutions:

36 Kappa Alpha Theta
33 Kappa Kappa Gamma
31 Pi Beta Phi
28 Delta Delta Delta
28 Delta Gamma
27 Alpha Chi Omega
27 Alpha Phi
23 Chi Omega
16 Alpha Delta Pi
16 Gamma Phi Beta
15 Kappa Delta
13 Alpha Epsilon Phi
11 Sigma Delta Tau
10 Alpha Omicron Pi
10 Sigma Kappa
9 Phi Mu
9 Zeta Tau Alpha
7 Alpha Xi Delta
7 Delta Zeta
6 Alpha Gamma Delta
5 Delta Phi Epsilon
3 Phi Sigma Sigma
3 Sigma Sigma Sigma
1 Alpha Sigma Alpha
1 Alpha Sigma Tau
0 Theta Phi Alpha

violetpretty
08-24-2008, 10:11 AM
Here we go again.

AOII Angel
08-24-2008, 10:33 AM
Really interesting, but doesn't prove anything except that some NPC organizations have alumnae from prestigious universities. If colonization was possible at every institution for every group, this may prove that some NPC groups are more popular amongst women in highly ranked universities. The NPCs that are highly represented in these colleges and universities just display a different expansion model and possibly better luck with getting the go ahead to colonize or at maintaining a chapter at these institutions.

nittanyalum
08-24-2008, 10:36 AM
Plus, this list is of what orgs are currently active, not what orgs have ever existed on those campuses. Nice to do during high rush season, though, Nut...er...oldu.

ZTAngel
08-24-2008, 10:39 AM
:rolleyes:

irishpipes
08-24-2008, 10:47 AM
Nice to do during high rush season, though, Nut...er...oldu.


Exactly. This is thoughtless and very bad publicity for the groups at the top of the list since PNMs might get the impression that some groups cater to pretentious bitches exclusively.

AOII Angel
08-24-2008, 11:02 AM
Exactly. This is thoughtless and very bad publicity for the groups at the top of the list since PNMs might get the impression that some groups cater to pretentious bitches exclusively.
Ha! Agreed! I'm very glad that AOII, Phi Mu, Kappa Delta and Sigma Kappa slummed it at my poor state university. We had a great greek system filled with women that any NPC would be happy to call sisters! And...just because we went to a local school did not mean we were all dumb and unambitious...we just liked being close to home.

texas*princess
08-24-2008, 11:08 AM
Here we go again.

omg you read my mind.

irishpipes
08-24-2008, 11:10 AM
And...just because we went to a local school did not mean we were all dumb and unambitious...we just liked being close to home.

You aren't allowed to say that, because everybody knows that's just a rationalization because you couldn't get in anywhere else. ;)

AOII Angel
08-24-2008, 11:14 AM
You aren't allowed to say that, because everybody knows that's just a rationalization because you couldn't get in anywhere else. ;)
Oh yeah....I forgot! Actually, that wasn't the case for me either...I went to NLU because it was away from home. I had a scholarship to LSU, but I would have had to live at home! Ugh! My mom absolutely refused to let me apply out of state. I guess my problem was that I wasn't rich enough!

kapsigcub
08-24-2008, 11:53 AM
It is laughable that some of you can't accept the data for what it is without making your typical catty remarks. Can you explain why it upsets you? I just don't get it.

Munchkin03
08-24-2008, 11:55 AM
Surprise, surprise. The most "prestigious" schools tend to be older, and the older schools tend to have more chapters of the oldest sororities.

I went to a school in the top 50, but I'm not a pretentious bitch. :mad:

AOII Angel
08-24-2008, 11:57 AM
I think we all can accept the data for what it is. Some NPC groups have more chapters at prestigious universities and colleges than other NPC groups. The problem is with the intent of oldu. I have no problem with my education...I got as far as my co-physicians that were trained at more expensive institutions, and I don't go around name dropping like one of them does to make himself feel better. To each his own.

AOII Angel
08-24-2008, 11:59 AM
Surprise, surprise. The most "prestigious" schools tend to be older, and the older schools tend to have more chapters of the oldest sororities.

I went to a school in the top 50, but I'm not a pretentious bitch. :mad:
Of course, you're not, but like the people at state schools who "couldn't get in anywhere else", all students at Top 50 schools are "pretentious bitches!" Everything about this thread is a stereotype.

kapsigcub
08-24-2008, 12:04 PM
So you know what oldu's intentions are? I would caution against reading more into it than what it is.

AOII Angel
08-24-2008, 12:10 PM
Do you know oldu's intentions? There have been multiple threads like this over time and lots of discussion over this. In the end, oldu attempts to "objectively" determine the "best" NPC group which is not really appreciated in the NPC world. Am I really irritated by this thread....NO. I'm just bored at work and object to the conclusions that oldu wants readers to reach. NPC is not the same as NIC...location of chapters is multifactorial.

texas*princess
08-24-2008, 12:12 PM
In the end, oldu attempts to "objectively" determine the "best" NPC group which is not really appreciated in the NPC world.

Ding ding ding!!!

we have a winner~!

Benzgirl
08-24-2008, 12:23 PM
Hate me if you will, but OldU is nothing more than a history buff. He owns an extensive collection of books and materials on universities and Greek systems.

OldU states facts/trivia and that's it. He sometimes throws out rhetorical questions that end up in fire balls. Many of us are more thin-skinned than we would like to admit, but I don't think he is trying to determine best, most popular, etc.

Just my opinion. On to another thread.

kapsigcub
08-24-2008, 12:25 PM
Do you know oldu's intentions? There have been multiple threads like this over time and lots of discussion over this. In the end, oldu attempts to "objectively" determine the "best" NPC group which is not really appreciated in the NPC world. Am I really irritated by this thread....NO. I'm just bored at work and object to the conclusions that oldu wants readers to reach. NPC is not the same as NIC...location of chapters is multifactorial.

It isn't incumbent on me to know what oldu's intentions are. You are the one who claims to know.

Yes, I know about the oldu's multiple threads, and I've yet to see a claim that one group is better than another.

NPC is not the same of NIC? Thanks, but I'm not a member of either conference.

AOII Angel
08-24-2008, 12:35 PM
It isn't incumbent on me to know what oldu's intentions are. You are the one who claims to know.

Yes, I know about the oldu's multiple threads, and I've yet to see a claim that one group is better than another.

NPC is not the same of NIC? Thanks, but I'm not a member of either conference.
I, of course, cannot KNOW his intent, but oldu has made his intent known multiple times. He/She may be a history buff....if that's all there is to it, then he/she should make that clear. Unfortunately, if oldu has no ulterior motive, it isn't clear to those who are reading this thread other than you. Benzgirl may be correct, we may be a little thin skinned about this stuff...not because of an inferiority complex, but because we get sick and tired of people making judgements on the worth of our educations, the quality of our sororities or fraternities and the value of our chapters. If the guys want to hash out who's the "best," go for it. We just don't see the point most of the time.

Elephant Walk
08-24-2008, 02:24 PM
It is what it is, I'm not sure why people are getting upset.

breathesgelatin
08-24-2008, 04:46 PM
OMG Y'ALL!!

My sorority is in the top three!!!!!!!

I AM BETTER THAN ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!

:D

SHEETCAKE
08-24-2008, 04:50 PM
OMG Y'ALL!!

My sorority is in the top three!!!!!!!

I AM BETTER THAN ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!

:D

http://www.stevenspoint.com/fire/posters2007/cake.jpg

irishpipes
08-24-2008, 05:10 PM
Surprise, surprise. The most "prestigious" schools tend to be older, and the older schools tend to have more chapters of the oldest sororities.

I went to a school in the top 50, but I'm not a pretentious bitch. :mad:


I went to a school in the top 50 also. My post was a joke directed at a certain poster who is totally obsessed with rankings.

I am an analytical person and enjoy data gathering myself, as is apparent by my history/recruitment thread. I wasn't knocking oldu, because I suspect his/her motive was in the vein of "hey, this is interesting." But, there are certainly folks who read that post and pat themselves on the back - people who just can't get over themselves.

NutBrnHair
08-24-2008, 05:19 PM
Nice to do during high rush season, though, Nut...er...oldu.
Leave me out of this, thank you very much! When I choose to post something you'll know it's me.

texas*princess
08-24-2008, 05:28 PM
I went to a school in the top 50 also. My post was a joke directed at a certain poster who is totally obsessed with rankings.

I am an analytical person and enjoy data gathering myself, as is apparent by my history/recruitment thread. I wasn't knocking oldu, because I suspect his/her motive was in the vein of "hey, this is interesting." But, there are certainly folks who read that post and pat themselves on the back - people who just can't get over themselves.

Maybe people like this? (http://greekchat.com/gcforums/showthread.php?t=98776)

^^ Great pic of a TIER CAKE in that thread :D

Scandia
08-24-2008, 06:18 PM
On one hand, I am a bit bummed that my sorority is not in any of those.

On the other hand, rankings can only count for so much. By going to UF, I was able to live at home, have a full scholarship, and have summer and winter jobs easily. So I was able to save a lot of money and need absolutely no loans for graduate school.

The school I went to for library school was not ranked as high as the other library school in my state. However, it fit my needs at the time MUCH better- it was a commuter campus, it provided more opportunities for fieldwork, and it had more Spanish speakers which increased my demand. Those were two of the best years of my life.

So rankings can only be a small part of the whole piece.

Low C Sharp
08-25-2008, 07:30 PM
If the guys want to hash out who's the "best," go for it. We just don't see the point most of the time.

If you simply didn't see the point of the thread, you would ignore it. But you're not just letting oldu and whoever's interested "go for it" -- you're complaining about it.

If oldu posted a list of which NPCs have the most chapters at schools that start with M, I doubt we'd see many complaints on the thread...because that really would be meaningless. People care enough to get offended about this because they think the top-50 ranking does carry some meaning.

I think this particular list is of some interest. If social GLOs promote career networking as a benefit of membership, then considering where your brothers/sisters come from nationwide makes sense. (No, I'm not a member of any listed group.)
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AOII Angel
08-25-2008, 07:48 PM
If you simply didn't see the point of the thread, you would ignore it. But you're not just letting oldu and whoever's interested "go for it" -- you're complaining about it.

If oldu posted a list of which NPCs have the most chapters at schools that start with M, I doubt we'd see many complaints on the thread...because that really would be meaningless. People care enough to get offended about this because they think the top-50 ranking does carry some meaning.

I think this particular list is of some interest. If social GLOs promote career networking as a benefit of membership, then considering where your brothers/sisters come from nationwide makes sense. (No, I'm not a member of any listed group.)
I said the "guys" can hash it out. Us girls prefer not to go into who's "best." So...yes, I am complaining. I just don't buy the "information only" intent after reading the downright rude "information only" posts oldu put in the AST and ASA forums.

KappaKittyCat
08-25-2008, 09:57 PM
I just don't buy the "information only" intent after reading the downright rude "information only" posts oldu put in the AST and ASA forums.

I just read those. OMG. How rude can you get?

Low C Sharp
08-25-2008, 11:44 PM
I hadn't seen those threads. How bizarre...
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