Why was the thread asking why LadyLonghorn's thread was moved moved?

[kddani]

Oh bow to the high and mighty mod's corner. So many (note, not all) mods talk so much crap in the mod's corner on everyone, but don't have the internet ballz to actually say anything in the public forums. Cowards.

[Unregistered-]

Oh bow to the high and mighty mod's corner. So many (note, not all) mods talk so much crap in the mod's corner on everyone, but don't have the internet ballz to actually say anything in the public forums. Cowards.

That's one thing I really don't miss about the Mods' Corner.

If you think the shit talking is bad in the public forums...you should see what the mods really say the MC!

[tld221]

i didnt even want to chime in being that i missed the original thread, but seriously.

[AlphaFrog]

Not so much recently, since I'm not here as much anymore, but I bet my name is plastered all over MC.:p

[Jen]

I never thought GC would look like Communist China ... but it does!

[Kevlar281]

No Soup For You!

[Senusret I]

Wow.

[epchick]

Seriously? This is getting pretty ridiculous!!

[AnatraAmore]

Seriously? How many threads are "they" (and by "they" I am NOT talking about all mods... just to clarify) just going to move before the issue is actually addressed? Oy.

[ZTAMich]

"Courtney, this is not a democracy, it's a cheerocracy."

[Elephant Walk]

Yeah, this kind of overmodding is retarded.

[Jen]

Why would the gods deign to speak to the lowly peasants?

[tld221]

"Courtney, this is not a democracy, it's a cheerocracy."

and furthermore:

Gretchen: Regina, you're wearing sweatpants. It's Monday.
Regina: So...?
Karen: So that's against the rules, and you can't sit with us.
Regina: Whatever. Those rules aren't real.
Karen: They were real that day I wore a vest!
Regina: Because that vest was disgusting!
Gretchen: You can't sit with us!

[Tippiechick]

I know some of you remember the last time Carny and I got into it b/c she thought I was talking about her... (If I am talking about her and her brood, I usually just say so...)

I got called, "That BITCH Tippiechick" in Mod's Corner when I dared to ask why it was deleted... She never even so much as said anything on the subject to me. But, wow, she apparantly said some stuff in MC.

It's so funny how they think we "regular folk" never hear what they say about us. We hear. We may not choose to address it at that moment, but we hear...

Point is, don't count on ANYTHING being addressed. I learned that calling John on his phone is they only way anything REALLY gets addressed around here. Don't get me wrong, lots of mods try, but nothing happens unless John oks it. So, again, don't hold your breath.

[epchick]

"Courtney, this is not a democracy, it's a cheerocracy."

I think the reply is also sufficiently appropriate in this situation:

"You're being a cheer-tator Torrence, and a pain in my ass!"

[33girl]

Well, look at it this way. At least GC still has a Jon & Kate + 8 thread.

[TrueBlueKappa]

Well, look at it this way. At least GC still has a Jon & Kate + 8 thread.

HAHAHA

[tld221]

p.s. IBTM

[epchick]

I wonder how long this thread will stay here until its moved. Any takers?

[nittanyalum]

YOU. ARE. EFFIN. KIDDING. ME.

bwak bwak bwak bwak bwak (that's my chicken impression)

And:
p.s. IBTM
FTW :p

[Benzgirl]

I know some of you remember the last time Carny and I got into it b/c she thought I was talking about her... (If I am talking about her and her brood, I usually just say so...)

I got called, "That BITCH Tippiechick" in Mod's Corner when I dared to ask why it was deleted... She never even so much as said anything on the subject to me. But, wow, she apparantly said some stuff in MC.



So this is like high school. But then, the mod teaches high school so maybe this is her outlet to imitate her students. Whatever, I'm naive and expect mods to act like adults.

BTW...what does it take to have a mod replaced?

[icelandelf]

I still stand behind what I said in the previous thread.

[Tippiechick]

So this is like high school. But then, the mod teaches high school so maybe this is her outlet to imitate her students. Whatever, I'm naive and expect mods to act like adults.

BTW...what does it take to have a mod replaced?

Actually wasn't the mod, but another mod friend who said it... Still, it was said. And, still I know about it. It takes an act of an absent "god" named John to remove the mod.

[Unregistered-]

I'll admit that I'm acronym challenged so I had to look up what IBTM meant.

I was very surprised to learn that it meant "In Before the Move" because really..."I Blame the Moderator" seems more appropriate.

[DeltAlum]

You may blame me.

Please don't pretend you don't know why.

As long as personal attacks and indecent language are used, I will close or move other threads as well.

I'd suggest you take your complaints to John or a SuperMod -- not drag them out on a public forum.

ETA, I originally closed this thread, but I'm going to reopen it so anyone who wants may add whatever childish or well thought out comments you care to.

Either way.

[33girl]

I reiterate:

SUPERMODS ARE NOT THERE TO MAKE CONTENT DECISIONS.

Please don't "go to" them and put them in an uncomfortable position and ask them to perform a function they didn't sign on for. Thank you.

[kddani]

ETA, I originally closed this thread, but I'm going to reopen it so anyone who wants may add whatever childish or well thought out comments you care to.

Either way.

How is this (by this I mean the "childish" comment) keeping in line with your own standards you just set - no "personal attacks"? Practice what you preach.

What you said about taking things to a Supermod absolutely undermines and goes against everything other mods have said - are you privy to knowledge that they're not? Are Supermods now for something other than taking care of spammers and other problems? If so, it seems the rest of the mods didn't get that note. And telling people to contact John is a joke and a half, as you well know, as he doesn't respond to anyone.

[ZTAMich]

Sounds like GC needs a FAQ on the job descrptions of Mods and SuperMods.

[DeltAlum]

Aren't Supermods also here to close threads in any forum?
Yes.

[pbear19]

DeltAlum, I have a sincere question. Why was the action taken in this case a complete removal of the thread, rather than a removal of the posts that were pointed personal attacks with offensive (to some) language? I would have thought the posts that were against the TOS could have been removed rather than the entire thread. I'm not questioning to be argumentative, I'm questioning to understand, and as such would appreciate a reply when possible.

[DeltAlum]

I reiterate:

SUPERMODS ARE NOT THERE TO MAKE CONTENT DECISIONS.

Please don't "go to" them and put them in an uncomfortable position and ask them to perform a function they didn't sign on for. Thank you.
All moderators are charged with making content decisions in enforcing the Terms of Service. The SuperModerators are as well.

[alum]

Better yet, maybe there should be tougher TOS to protect the moderators:

Moderators and administrators may edit, move, and delete posts to make them more accessible or to bring them into compliance with our TOS. If an edit changes the context or meaning of the post in any significant way, moderators will usually include a note that the post has been edited in the post itself. All moderation, however, is performed on a "best efforts" basis - each poster is fully responsible for his/her own posts, and each visitor is responsible for what he/she reads. Offensive posts should be reported to the moderators, and every effort will be made to remove them as soon as possible. Out of respect for both moderators and policies, discussion of moderator actions and forum policies is welcomed via private message or e-mail; these issues are off-topic for the forums.

[DeltAlum]

DeltAlum, I have a sincere question. Why was the action taken in this case a complete removal of the thread, rather than a removal of the posts that were pointed personal attacks with offensive (to some) language? I would have thought the posts that were against the TOS could have been removed rather than the entire thread. I'm not questioning to be argumentative, I'm questioning to understand, and as such would appreciate a reply when possible.
That is a fair question. The reason is that the posters would very likely have simply reposted.

I think that this thread may be proof of that.

[DeltAlum]

How is this (by this I mean the "childish" comment) keeping in line with your own standards you just set - no "personal attacks"? Practice what you preach.

What you said about taking things to a Supermod absolutely undermines and goes against everything other mods have said - are you privy to knowledge that they're not? Are Supermods now for something other than taking care of spammers and other problems? If so, it seems the rest of the mods didn't get that note. And telling people to contact John is a joke and a half, as you well know, as he doesn't respond to anyone.
My "childish" comment was pointed at nobody specifically. If you, or other members care to assume who the children are, that's up to you. You can do the same for those you consider to be giving thoughtful responses.

If SuperMods are only for cleaning up SPAM, why bother?

[pbear19]

That is a fair question. The reason is that the posters would very likely have simply reposted.

I think that this thread may be proof of that.

I can understand that, to a point. But, I personally think that type of preemptive moderation is more likely to inflame the masses, and also more likely to cause more work rather than less work for the moderator in the end. I suppose it is a case of whether you choose to believe the best, or expect the worst.

I think this thread may also be proof of that. :) (Said in a manner that shouldn't be interpreted as flippantly as it might appear online.)

[Kevlar281]

My "childish" comment was pointed at nobody specifically. If you, or other members care to assume who the children are, that's up to you.
You want bread? Three dollars!

[kddani]

My "childish" comment was pointed at nobody specifically. If you, or other members care to assume who the children are, that's up to you. You can do the same for those you consider to be giving thoughtful responses.

If SuperMods are only for cleaning up SPAM, why bother?


No reason to take such a snotty tone. If you don't want namecalling going on, don't do it yourself. Hiding behind the "well it wasn't pointed at anyone in particular" is ridiculous.

Are Supermods now disciplining other mods? Because if we have a problem with a moderating decision, why on earth should we go to a Supermod? Really, what can they do? Are they now overriding mods of particular forums when it comes to moderating decisions in those forums?

[texas*princess]

for what it's worth, the thread asking "why" was moved because of the vulgar language being used.

It is possible to make a point without throwing around the F-bomb all the time.

However, a bunch of us are still wondering why the thread that started all of this was moved, and she has yet to explain why.

[Unregistered-]

for what it's worth, the thread asking "why" was moved because of the vulgar language being used.

It is possible to make a point without throwing around the F-bomb all the time.

However, a bunch of us are still wondering why the thread that started all of this was moved, and she has yet to explain why.

If they want to clean up F-bombs, that's what the edit button's for.

Moving them's just plain lazy and cowardly.

DARN TERRIFIC.

[texas*princess]

^^^ I agree. You can take that up with DA and the other mods who apparently don't believe in "cleaning up" and reopening threads.

Personally I feel if the original thread was cleaned up after the hollywin comments the LL thread would have been perfectly fine.

[Senusret I]

Can't certain words be blocked? If it's profanity we're limiting, that can be done on the admin side of things.

Again, consistency. If I can say fuck in the Lambda Alpha Upsilon forum, I should be able to say it in chit chat.

[Munchkin03]

Can't certain words be blocked? If it's profanity we're limiting, that can be done on the admin side of things.

Again, consistency. If I can say fuck in the Lambda Alpha Upsilon forum, I should be able to say it in chit chat.

Yeah, ******* is or was blocked for some crazy reason...so obviously the technology is there.

[icelandelf]

If they want to clean up F-bombs, that's what the edit button's for.

Moving them's just plain lazy and cowardly.

DARN TERRIFIC.

Agreed. And on a positive note, a moderator took the initiative (don't know which one) in the Recruitment stories thread, deleted a handful of posts that were pretty heated, and made the thread workable and readable again. I honestly think that's what a majority of us would like to see. Not moving it to a mods only corner, not deleting the thread outright. Heck, I think a bunch of us wouldn't mind (and we've said this on the other thread) that we're not averse to having a thread locked on occasion. But not what has been happening lately.

[Tippiechick]

Yeah, ******* is or was blocked for some crazy reason...so obviously the technology is there.

Exactly. John made the decision NOT to block certain words.

Yes. It is possible to refrain from dropping f-bombs in every post. But, it's just not as entertaining for me. And, since GC is entertainment for me and since John has not blocked the word, I see no reason not to do it when I please.

[Senusret I]

Exactly. John made the decision NOT to block certain words.

Yes. It is possible to refrain from dropping f-bombs in every post. But, it's just not as entertaining for me. And, since GC is entertainment for me and since John has not blocked the word, I see no reason not to do it when I please.

Fuck yeah!

[tld221]

yall slay me. and now i wanna e-blurt obscenities all in this mother.

[Jen]

No kidding. If fuck was so bad it wouldn't fucking be here.

But apparently some mods are afraid of language. It's scarrrryy shit.

[nittanyalum]

However, a bunch of us are still wondering why the thread that started all of this was moved, and she has yet to explain why.
That should be unacceptable. Is one mod's arrogance and abuse of power worth all of this unrest? I think the Mod Squad needs some reformulating.

[Senusret I]

Term limits for moderators, dammit!

[texas*princess]

That should be unacceptable. Is one mod's arrogance and abuse of power worth all of this unrest?

I agree. And a LOT of people agree (both mods and non-mods).

[Tinia2]

did i miss something here on greekchat or did you locate this elsewhere? or just now write it up? seems to be a rather good idea at first look.

Better yet, maybe there should be tougher TOS to protect the moderators:

Moderators and administrators may edit, move, and delete posts to make them more accessible or to bring them into compliance with our TOS. If an edit changes the context or meaning of the post in any significant way, moderators will usually include a note that the post has been edited in the post itself. All moderation, however, is performed on a "best efforts" basis - each poster is fully responsible for his/her own posts, and each visitor is responsible for what he/she reads. Offensive posts should be reported to the moderators, and every effort will be made to remove them as soon as possible. Out of respect for both moderators and policies, discussion of moderator actions and forum policies is welcomed via private message or e-mail; these issues are off-topic for the forums.

[EE-BO]

In DeltAlum's defense, this ain't his fight. This is a recruitment forum matter, and while I can appreciate that trying this thread over there would probably lead to fast deletion- the fact is it is hard for a mod to have a thread dealing with a serious concern over another forum in his own forum.

While I do think LL's post was valuable and insightful, and thus agree with some of the comments in the chit chat threads, there was a lot of commentary which was not so much about the actual words used- but the context. I have been a mod for just over a year now, and the thread here asking why LL's post got removed was reported more than any other thread I have ever seen. And it was not just one post getting reported- but several, and the people reporting weren't just mods- it included a lot of people who are regular and valuable posters here. I think most of them share the view that LL's post should not have been removed from Recruitment. It was the turn of the discussion in the chit chat thread that bothered them.

So DeltAlum did not really have much choice. And given that there has to be some kind of outlet for people to express their views on this situation, I think it was cool of him to reopen this thread and give a voice to an issue that he should not have to be dealing with in the first place.

As for LL's post- while I did like, it needed a little tweaking. It was a great smackdown for the HMs, but there will also be moms coming here to post (and tons more to just read) who are genuinely sad and upset, and just want some advice on how to counsel their daughters. Not all the moms are Helicopter Moms, and given how incredibly important sorority recruitment is- EASILY the MOST emotionally driven aspect of Greek Life- it needed a little bit of finesse in parts.

And so on that basis, it is hard to expect a Super-Mod to overrule the Recruitment Mod and just reinstate the thread- even if the little battle started by an HM were to be removed.

Super-Mods have a lot of power, but those few chosen for that role also have a tremendous respect for being careful about using it. Just look at all the fury over one thread being moved. Imagine the fury that would erupt if a Super-Mod were to override a Mod, demod or ban a Moderator. It would take a lot more than this to justify that- even given the historical context of the issue at hand with HM-related threads.

Most all of us are on the same page. And we are not going to attack other mods openly in these forums. That serves no valid purpose in the long run. This is why many of you are not seeing the outrage from us in print that you expect. We respect the role and that we are not the ones to decide who is, or is not, a mod. And I personally have a LOT of respect for just how hard it must be to moderate Recruitment fora to begin with.

I agree there is an issue here, but I think to be fair you all have to concede that there were some minor issues with the original post and how it would be received by non-HMs and also some issues with the backlash. That complicates Mods and Super-Mods taking drastic steps.

For now, I am just happy DeltAlum is letting this issue crash his forum for discussion. Rest assured we are all thinking about it too- and from both sides of the fence- and while we may not have the power to act as quick as everyone wants, and certainly won't be able to make everyone happy- we do care.

Yes this site is Entertainment. I like a good web-fight as much as anyone. But I do also care about the value of this place to Greeks. And I think I speak for all mods in saying that.

[alum]

did i miss something here on greekchat or did you locate this elsewhere? or just now write it up? seems to be a rather good idea at first look.

I actually got this from another board which I visit. I think GC should adopt it.

[Benzgirl]

I think the Mod Squad needs some reformulating.
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc296/benzgirl_amg/ModSquad.jpg

I'll play Peggy Lipton's part.:)

[Tinia2]

^^^ I agree. You can take that up mods who apparently don't believe in "cleaning up" and reopening threads.

Personally I feel if the original thread was cleaned up after the hollywin comments the LL thread would have been perfectly fine.

i edited the above in order that i could agree with it. i have seen moderators just about defend and protect posters who any general poster would identify as a troll or sockpuppet. and permit them to hang around. but others seem to take charge and take care of matters like that. why?

[irishpipes]

In DeltAlum's defense, this ain't his fight. This is a recruitment forum matter, and while I can appreciate that trying this thread over there would probably lead to fast deletion- the fact is it is hard for a mod to have a thread dealing with a serious concern over another forum in his own forum.

While I do think LL's post was valuable and insightful, and thus agree with some of the comments in the chit chat threads, there was a lot of commentary which was not so much about the actual words used- but the context. I have been a mod for just over a year now, and the thread here asking why LL's post got removed was reported more than any other thread I have ever seen. And it was not just one post getting reported- but several, and the people reporting weren't just mods- it included a lot of people who are regular and valuable posters here. I think most of them share the view that LL's post should not have been removed from Recruitment. It was the turn of the discussion in the chit chat thread that bothered them.

So DeltAlum did not really have much choice. And given that there has to be some kind of outlet for people to express their views on this situation, I think it was cool of him to reopen this thread and give a voice to an issue that he should not have to be dealing with in the first place.

As for LL's post- while I did like, it needed a little tweaking. It was a great smackdown for the HMs, but there will also be moms coming here to post (and tons more to just read) who are genuinely sad and upset, and just want some advice on how to counsel their daughters. Not all the moms are Helicopter Moms, and given how incredibly important sorority recruitment is- EASILY the MOST emotionally driven aspect of Greek Life- it needed a little bit of finesse in parts.

And so on that basis, it is hard to expect a Super-Mod to overrule the Recruitment Mod and just reinstate the thread- even if the little battle started by an HM were to be removed.

Super-Mods have a lot of power, but those few chosen for that role also have a tremendous respect for being careful about using it. Just look at all the fury over one thread being moved. Imagine the fury that would erupt if a Super-Mod were to override a Mod, demod or ban a Moderator. It would take a lot more than this to justify that- even given the historical context of the issue at hand with HM-related threads.

Most all of us are on the same page. And we are not going to attack other mods openly in these forums. That serves no valid purpose in the long run. This is why many of you are not seeing the outrage from us in print that you expect. We respect the role and that we are not the ones to decide who is, or is not, a mod. And I personally have a LOT of respect for just how hard it must be to moderate Recruitment fora to begin with.

I agree there is an issue here, but I think to be fair you all have to concede that there were some minor issues with the original post and how it would be received by non-HMs and also some issues with the backlash. That complicates Mods and Super-Mods taking drastic steps.

For now, I am just happy DeltAlum is letting this issue crash his forum for discussion. Rest assured we are all thinking about it too- and from both sides of the fence- and while we may not have the power to act as quick as everyone wants, and certainly won't be able to make everyone happy- we do care.

Yes this site is Entertainment. I like a good web-fight as much as anyone. But I do also care about the value of this place to Greeks. And I think I speak for all mods in saying that.


With all due respect, I think you may be making GC out to be way more important than it really is. This isn't the NPC or IFC official site. Posts made here are not official statements by any Greek organization. Furthermore, you imply that the sensitivities of visitors to this site warrant more consideration that those of the regular posters of the site. So what if a few moms are insulted? If I go on the political threads I get insulted because I am conservative and 99.99% of GC posters are liberals. Solution: I don't go there. I don't need a moderator deciding what is offensive and what isn't. If someone was upset by the advice in LL's thread, they could have started a new thread with different advice, or added their differing opinion to that thread.

In my opinion, this site does not, or should I say should not, exist to promote a positive image of Greek life. It is merely an outlet for Greeks to interact, and as such it is valuable as a realistic portrayal of Greek life. GC's value to a visitor is that it provides such insight, for better or for worse. Visitors to the site can take it for what it is. When the site is micro-moderated, visitors are left with a sanitized forum and therefore it loses its value as a truthful portayal. It becomes a product of the views of the moderators, rather than the regular posters. Some Greeks are hateful people, so therefore some posts will be. Deleting everything hateful promotes an image that just isn't realistic.

For the most part, GC posters tend to do a pretty good job of moderating themselves. When newbies ask for tiers and such, they are immediately informed of the culture of the site by regular posters. No moderating interference is needed.

Other than spam and obscenity/vulgarity, I don't see why anything needs to be deleted.

Lady Longhorn's post, and even the ensuing drama, is just part of a whole that is GC. I don't think any of it should have been altered other than obscenity. All of it represented the opinions of the posters, and that is exactly what GC should be, in my opinion.

[EE-BO]

Irishpipes, I do not see where we disagree. As I said, I think LL's post could have used a little tweaking, but not much. She is a smart lady, and she hit the issue head on right.

And my concern for sensitivity only applies to sorority recruitment. There should be some smackdowns in there since a lot of people ask for it. But this was a thread addressed to all mothers on a sensitive issue at the most sensitive time of the year.

I do not have an issue with how most posters are on this site- including the long-timers who have gotten contentious in the threads surrounding this drama. They are some of the best resources GC has- and for every deserved smackdown to someone who needs one, they have been a great help for those who come here with good intentions.

My point is that there is a desire here for a Super-Mod to override a Mod. And for that to happen, it would have to be a really black-white situation- or the fallout would be even worse than what we are seeing here.

[Tippiechick]

Irishpipes, I do not see where we disagree. As I said, I think LL's post could have used a little tweaking, but not much. She is a smart lady, and she hit the issue head on right.

And my concern for sensitivity only applies to sorority recruitment. There should be some smackdowns in there since a lot of people ask for it. But this was a thread addressed to all mothers on a sensitive issue at the most sensitive time of the year.

I do not have an issue with how most posters are on this site- including the long-timers who have gotten contentious in the threads surrounding this drama. They are some of the best resources GC has- and for every deserved smackdown to someone who needs one, they have been a great help for those who come here with good intentions.

My point is that there is a desire here for a Super-Mod to override a Mod. And for that to happen, it would have to be a really black-white situation- or the fallout would be even worse than what we are seeing here.

There is NO desire for a super-mod to override a mod --that came from Deltalum... We have a desire for John to get his ass in gear and fix what needs fixing. ***cough** mods who mod for personal reasons over and over for YEARS***cough***

[irishpipes]

Irishpipes, I do not see where we disagree. As I said, I think LL's post could have used a little tweaking, but not much. She is a smart lady, and she hit the issue head on right.

And my concern for sensitivity only applies to sorority recruitment. There should be some smackdowns in there since a lot of people ask for it. But this was a thread addressed to all mothers on a sensitive issue at the most sensitive time of the year.

I do not have an issue with how most posters are on this site- including the long-timers who have gotten contentious in the threads surrounding this drama. They are some of the best resources GC has- and for every deserved smackdown to someone who needs one, they have been a great help for those who come here with good intentions.

My point is that there is a desire here for a Super-Mod to override a Mod. And for that to happen, it would have to be a really black-white situation- or the fallout would be even worse than what we are seeing here.

We disagree because I would view LL's post as her opinion, and only her opinion. As such, it needs no tweaking. Comments (tweaks?) about her opinion come in the form of posts to her thread from other users. I don't think mods should edit or delete someone's opinion to make it their own. You leave it as is, then add your own 2 cents in your own post. That way a reader can see different sides and make their own decision.

[EE-BO]

Irishpipes, I can admit when I am wrong- and you make sense and I think you are right. Mods could add their own take and then, yes, you have an ideal thread.

[33girl]

Aren't Supermods also here to close threads in any forum?

I will say the same thing I say about 380 pound women wearing strapless tops or hooking up with a guy who has dated 20 people within your immediate radius.

"Just because you can, doesn't mean you should."

Supermods can close and/or move any thread in any forum; however, if it is a forum THAT ALREADY HAS A MODERATOR it is exceptionally rude to do so. The supermods only have superior technical abilities. Their "super" status does not mean they have been found to be people who make better decisions than the other mods, or that they know more about Greek life than the other mods. We (mods we) all have different interpretations of the TOS, as well as know what is and is not OK to have in a particular org's forum (to wit: NPHC recruitment vs NPC recruitment).

If a supermod ever does close or move threads in a modded forum, it's usually because the mod of that forum is offline for a period and has requested that people "look out" for goings on in the forum.

If PenguinTrax cleaned up some threads in the Recruitment forum, it is because she is a Recruitment mod, NOT because she is a supermod.

And irishpipes, I agree with your whole post. I think GC is a happy medium between yukky things like juicy campus and the sanitized version of Greek life on many national or chapter websites. If it wasn't, we wouldn't have as many people visiting here as we do.

[Tinia2]

a moderator posted in a thread something that was rather clearly in violation of tos. several posters saw it and commented on it. speaking only for myself, i pm'ed the moderator and pointed out their posting. the moderator replied rather promptly and apologized for their error. they had simply forgotten. ok, we are all human, we all do that that sort of thing.
however, while they admitted they had made an error that was in violation of tos, they did not go back and fix it. nor did any of the moderators of that thread. true, the poster was a moderator. but they were posting as a general member. actions like that do make one wonder.
I will say the same thing I say about 380 pound women wearing strapless tops or hooking up with a guy who has dated 20 people within your immediate radius.

"Just because you can, doesn't mean you should."

Supermods can close and/or move any thread in any forum; however, if it is a forum THAT ALREADY HAS A MODERATOR it is exceptionally rude to do so. The supermods only have superior technical abilities. Their "super" status does not mean they have been found to be people who make better decisions than the other mods, or that they know more about Greek life than the other mods. We (mods we) all have different interpretations of the TOS, as well as know what is and is not OK to have in a particular org's forum (to wit: NPHC recruitment vs NPC recruitment).

If a supermod ever does close or move threads in a modded forum, it's usually because the mod of that forum is offline for a period and has requested that people "look out" for goings on in the forum.

If PenguinTrax cleaned up some threads in the Recruitment forum, it is because she is a Recruitment mod, NOT because she is a supermod.

And irishpipes, I agree with your whole post. I think GC is a happy medium between yukky things like juicy campus and the sanitized version of Greek life on many national or chapter websites. If it wasn't, we wouldn't have as many people visiting here as we do.

[breathesgelatin]

I will say the same thing I say about 380 pound women wearing strapless tops or hooking up with a guy who has dated 20 people within your immediate radius.

"Just because you can, doesn't mean you should."

Supermods can close and/or move any thread in any forum; however, if it is a forum THAT ALREADY HAS A MODERATOR it is exceptionally rude to do so. The supermods only have superior technical abilities. Their "super" status does not mean they have been found to be people who make better decisions than the other mods, or that they know more about Greek life than the other mods. We (mods we) all have different interpretations of the TOS, as well as know what is and is not OK to have in a particular org's forum (to wit: NPHC recruitment vs NPC recruitment).

If a supermod ever does close or move threads in a modded forum, it's usually because the mod of that forum is offline for a period and has requested that people "look out" for goings on in the forum.

If PenguinTrax cleaned up some threads in the Recruitment forum, it is because she is a Recruitment mod, NOT because she is a supermod.

And irishpipes, I agree with your whole post. I think GC is a happy medium between yukky things like juicy campus and the sanitized version of Greek life on many national or chapter websites. If it wasn't, we wouldn't have as many people visiting here as we do.

Just confirming that this is pretty much the consensus about SuperMod stuff from our recent discussions.

Tippiechick, I think we would all like for John to be around more often to clean stuff up/solve problems. Mods and non-mods alike.

[jwright25]

I don't need a moderator deciding what is offensive and what isn't.

In my opinion, this site does not, or should I say should not, exist to promote a positive image of Greek life. It is merely an outlet for Greeks to interact, and as such it is valuable as a realistic portrayal of Greek life.

When the site is micro-moderated, visitors are left with a sanitized forum and therefore it loses its value as a truthful portayal. It becomes a product of the views of the moderators, rather than the regular posters.

Lady Longhorn's post, and even the ensuing drama, is just part of a whole that is GC. I don't think any of it should have been altered other than obscenity. All of it represented the opinions of the posters, and that is exactly what GC should be, in my opinion.

I agree 100% with your whole post, but these are my favorite passages. As everyone can see from my signature, I am not a fan of any kind of censorship. I believe that everyone should be able to express his or her own opinion on a message board, even if that opinion is that another poster is a raging asshat.

And I don't care about the cussing. Aren't we all adults? Aren't we all exposed to it every day? And if some people think they will spontaneously combust because they read four little letters on a computer screen, perhaps they need to pursue other forms of entertainment that don't involve real people in the real world. This isn't ChurchChat.

I also agree with the point that GC is "self-moderated." If someone gives idiotic advice (as was recently given), the more knowledgeable posters step in to correct the mistaken poster and guide the asker correctly. But if the idiotic posts are always removed, how will we be able to discern who is giving valuable advice and who is a moron? Leave them up for the record! Leave the corrections up for the record! Let everyone who is considering posting read what has been done in error, and they will think twice before posting the same stupid thing.

LL's thread should have stood as a beacon to all the HM's. First they should be able to read her excellent advice. Then they should read what will happen to them if they try to barge in on the membership selection practices of NPC sororities. I can hear the fwapping now (great sig TC). They are going to come here and post the exact same things that start this shit up. And they won't know any better since all the previous HM drama has been removed.

[33girl]

It was more to clear what I thought was your confusion. The supermods have already heard me say all that.

[epchick]

Dang that other "why" thread must have taken a turn after my "experience=children" post, because there wasn't any cursing or insulting going on before that.

What I don't understand is why any one poster is held in higher regard than others. It seems as though its ok for posters (mainly new ones) to insult people like OTW, yet its not ok for an older poster (like they signed up years ago) to "insult" (if that's what you wanna call it) someone else. That's pretty crappy moderating if you ask me.

As for LL's post- while I did like, it needed a little tweaking. It was a great smackdown for the HMs, but there will also be moms coming here to post (and tons more to just read) who are genuinely sad and upset, and just want some advice on how to counsel their daughters. Not all the moms are Helicopter Moms, and given how incredibly important sorority recruitment is- EASILY the MOST emotionally driven aspect of Greek Life- it needed a little bit of finesse in parts.
I'll admit I didn't read LL's original thread, it was moved before I even got to see it. Yet i'm confident enough in many GCers to know that if they are upset about it, then there is something wrong.

Mom's who are upset & sad are welcome to post, I don't think there is anyone here who is denying that. Yet, how many moms have come here peacefully. Pretty much none of them, they resort to all sorts of insults. Look @ what happened last night in Jill's thread. Calling members "nasty witches," hoping her daughter doesn't join our sorority, etc. That's what we go through practically everytime.

There are always going to be disagreements, but deleting/moving the topic does not help matters. Certain moderators don't seem to care about that. They care more about the new members' feelings & opinions, than they ever are about the older members. How is that right?

[irishpipes]

epchick, furthering your post, why do moderator's care about ANYONE'S feelings? Moderating is a task, not a skill. I don't understand why moderators review content other than for basic obscenity or spam. Otherwise, there would have to be some training or auditing qualifications for moderators.

I didn't even agree with LL's post entirely. I just believe in a free exchange of ideas.

To be honest, I generally dislike probably half or more of all posts on GC - by that I mean a lot of posters tend to be unnecessarily aggressive, intolerant, even hostile, and I'm not really like that. That being said, so what? A lot of people ARE aggressive, intolerant, and hostile. So I wouldn't have them over for dinner. It doesn't mean their opinions/posts should be disallowed as part of an open discussion.

[epchick]

epchick, furthering your post, why do moderator's care about ANYONE'S feelings? Moderating is a task, not a skill. I don't understand why moderators review content other than for basic obscenity or spam. Otherwise, there would have to be some training or auditing qualifications for moderators.

I didn't even agree with LL's post entirely. I just believe in a free exchange of ideas.

To be honest, I generally dislike probably half or more of all posts on GC - by that I mean a lot of posters tend to be unnecessarily aggressive, intolerant, even hostile, and I'm not really like that. That being said, so what? A lot of people ARE aggressive, intolerant, and hostile. So I wouldn't have them over for dinner. It doesn't mean their opinions/posts should be disallowed as part of an open discussion.

Exactly. Like you said, moderating should be there for the more vulgar exchanges, as well as to stop any more personal attacks (i.e. BA & Earp stalkerish behaviors). They should not be there to decide who's opinion is more valid than another. That goes for moderator's opinions as well. I don't think that a moderator's opinion should supercede my opinion just because they are a moderator.

[Senusret I]

I don't think that a moderator's opinion should supercede my opinion just because they are a moderator.

AMEN.

[GeekyPenguin]

So this is like high school. But then, the mod teaches high school so maybe this is her outlet to imitate her students. Whatever, I'm naive and expect mods to act like adults.

BTW...what does it take to have a mod replaced?

You could ask TOM EARP, because that was enough to get me demodded.

[nittanyalum]

Wait, EARP had the pull to get someone demodded, but the shenanigans in the recruitment forum have apparently gone unchecked for years???

[MysticCat]

Wait, EARP had the pull to get someone demodded . . . .I take it that was before Earp got demodded. :rolleyes:

[33girl]

I take it that was before Earp got demodded. :rolleyes:

Earp and GP got demodded at the same time.

[Tom Earp]

You could ask TOM EARP, because that was enough to get me demodded.

You are to funny to say the very least!

I did not have anything to do with you do with You, KDDani, nor AlphaChiOAlum getting demoded. OTW, quit out of a snit! You three were demoded because of what you all did and handled yourselfs.

As far as Recruitment these were the same ones who complained so much about me being a Mod on that along with another Mod=Co-Mod!

Yes we were all demoded at the same time!

At far as the Recruitment and AI thread, some of the same ones as mentioned raised such a stink that I was taken of as a Mod along with LXAAlum! Some of the same ones wanted a AI in the AI Thread!

So, I suggested an AI who was a GPB and someone raised hell about her and said NO! I wonder who said NO?:rolleyes:

Well since I have been
so maligned, I hope this will help the new folks on GC and put a burr under some saddles!:D

[Jen]

It's too shitting bad that banning doesn't fucking last forever.

[cuteASAbug]

Tom, this thread has nothing to do with the AI forum needing moderator.

[SydneyK]

It's too shitting bad that banning doesn't fucking last forever.

lol. :D

Being banned on GC is like being killed off on a soap opera; it's never really final. (Die again, Stefano... for real this time!)

[texas*princess]

lol. :D

Being banned on GC is like being killed off on a soap opera; it's never really final. (Die again, Stefano... for real this time!)

LOL

is Stefano STILL terrorizing the Bradys?????

[ZTAMich]

LOL

is Stefano STILL terrorizing the Bradys?????

take out Stefano and put in....

take out the Bradys and put in....

haha

[Unregistered-]

People asked, so I did.

LOL...for those who missed it the first time, see below.

[Jen]

This is why I love you.

[Unregistered-]

This is why I love you.

Love you too, Triad Sister!

Now everyone can see what this whole mess is about.

Yay for subscribed threads.

[Tom Earp]

Tom, this thread has nothing to do with the AI forum needing moderator.


Excuse Me!

It was a question asked and it was answered!:rolleyes:

Whether on this thread or another!:rolleyes:

So, I am sure that if The Super Mods wish to delete, or lock it they can.

Some want the truth and some do not want to know what a went on!

So you wish to deny them that information?

You say No, but what the heck?

Just amazing isn't it?:o

Do you think John H cares anymore?

If I were him, and It is operating as he set it up then he is smart enough enough to stay away from G C!:rolleyes:

But, now you want to tell me that is is operating as it was originally set up?

I don't really know with my # of posts that I get crap for or how long I have been here and promoted G C!:o

First off, there is nothing wrong with the site, it just comes down to some on it!:mad:

Now, I am sorry if you wish to get in a pissing contest then, you better think again!:p

BTW have a nice evening .;)

[Jen]

You get crap because you are drunk and ramble incoherently. I won't mention the racist and sexist shit.

[jojapeach]

People asked, so I did.

And we love you for it. I really wanted to see what all the fuss was about, and I see it was completely justified.

I move that OTW be nominated for GC Member of the Year. :D

[Benzgirl]

People asked, so I did.

LOL...for those who missed it the first time, see below.

Happy to call you a sister!

[Tom Earp]

You get crap because you are drunk and ramble incoherently. I won't mention the racist and sexist shit.

Yes, but you do no better than spit out the same old dogma of others!:rolleyes:

I do not know know whether you beleive your own post or just follow like a puppy getting treats?

You as an individual suck and try to act so holier than thou!

God I guess loves you as much as He does anyone here. Get the message?

Do you live with me? Not!

Do you know if I am drunk?

Do you know that I have a hard time typing because of pain?

As usual, you spout crap and have no damn clue except what you read and follow like the little lap animal that you are!

Posters are getting so very tired of the crap that those like you want to spread and mess with new people who come on a used to be a fine GLO site.

It is not the site, but some of the people who have ruined it!:mad:

Count yourself as one of them.

All I did was explain what some posters asked and you as usual want to besmirch me as usual.:rolleyes:


You mean nothing to me, I have wiped things like you off of my boots in the barn yard!

Racist, was one of your words! Yes, I am as I do not like people like you who say things like this and have no damn clue what you are talking about.

I have more friends who are white, black and asian than you may ever even thought about!

I also have dated all of the above. Have you? I doubt it along with the majority on this site!

Your viperous tounge is unbecoming on this site!

Either put up or shut the hell up!:mad:

[Senusret I]

Do you know that I have a hard time typing because of pain?

Then....stop....typing...

[texas*princess]

ROFLMAO Senusret I!!!!!

[cuteASAbug]

Your viperous tounge is unbecoming on this site!
After EE-BO's thread, this is the funniest thing I've read here today.

[Senusret I]

I think Earp just asked Jen to live with him.

But it turns out that he lives in a barn yard and wipes his boots to protect his carpet. :confused:

LMAOOOO this was so not the first version of this post

[Benzgirl]

Do you know that I have a hard time typing because of pain?




There is software for that

[Jen]

After EE-BO's thread, this is the funniest thing I've read here today.

I seriously have not laughed this hard in ages.

All hail my viperous "tounge".

[Jen]

I vote for 3 spell checker runs. Then it died trying to catch "beleive" and "tounge."

[Benzgirl]

Jen, the Viper Tounge (JVT to you)

[Jen]

Since it's too much effort to get my username changed, I'm just gonna sig that!

[icelandelf]

This will teach me to go to a school workshop today with no internet acess; this thread has taken on a beautiful life of its own!

OTW you ROCK for your siggy. I <3 you!

[KSig RC]

I did not realize that social and ethnic injustice was a byproduct of rheumatoid arthritis.

I learned something today.

[nittanyalum]

This made me stand up and cheer:
OTW (http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/member.php?u=6721) http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif
Registered User


People asked, so I did.

LOL...for those who missed it the first time, see below.
__________________
For the Moms: Read here to find out why your daughter was cut (http://i37.tinypic.com/okoksn.jpg) :)


And then this made me fall over in laughter:
I did not realize that social and ethnic injustice was a byproduct of rheumatoid arthritis.

[Rudey]

kddani and otw complaining about other mods who smack talk after they were removed as mods for doing the same and more? that's real rich.

[Senusret I]

Do you live with him? No!

You don't know anything bout him?!

How is it that you can judge his ailment?

For what it's worth he wipes his boots of you?

You have a flirty tounge? :rolleyes:

Woman, are you watching Intervention????

[ZTAMich]

Rudey's here??!! SWEEEEET!

[tld221]

yall are a fucking riot. and sheesh, Rudey is even here? hawt.

[Unregistered-]

kddani and otw complaining about other mods who smack talk after they were removed as mods for doing the same and more? that's real rich.

Sorry, but you're wrong. I asked John to be de-modded. You can ask John or any other mod who was there at the time and they can cite the post in MC where I gladly asked to be de-modded.

I'm not sure why you're still obsessed with attacking me when I've said nothing to you in years, but have a nice day anyway, Rudey. :)

[MysticCat]

. . . You as an individual suck and try to act so holier than thou!

God I guess loves you as much as He does anyone here. Get the message?

. . . As usual, you spout crap and have no damn clue except what you read and follow like the little lap animal that you are!

. . . You mean nothing to me, I have wiped things like you off of my boots in the barn yard!. . . Your viperous tounge is unbecoming on this site!Quoted for posterity, and for the next time that Tom tries to lecture people on GC for being rude embarrassments to Greekdom and mentions the amazement of "the "NOT ME" me syndrom! (http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/showthread.php?p=1614496)" :rolleyes:

[Rudey]

Sorry, but you're wrong. I asked John to be de-modded. You can ask John or any other mod who was there at the time and they can cite the post in MC where I gladly asked to be de-modded.

I'm not sure why you're still obsessed with attacking me when I've said nothing to you in years, but have a nice day anyway, Rudey. :)

It's amazing that after all these years you still feel the need to lie and create illusions on a message forum. Life must be pretty cruel. You have a nice day and stop attacking people little girl.

-Rudey

[Tom Earp]

It's amazing that after all these years you still feel the need to lie and create illusions on a message forum. Life must be pretty cruel. You have a nice day and stop attacking people little girl.

-Rudey

Well, hellooo My Friend Rudey!

Good to see you posting and explaining your position about things that I will not talk about!:D I want to be sure that I am not attacking someone no matter who or what they be!

Carry on and do what you do so well!!!!!!!:cool:

[Unregistered-]

It's amazing that after all these years you still feel the need to lie and create illusions on a message forum. Life must be pretty cruel. You have a nice day and stop attacking people little girl.

-Rudey

You have a nice day as well, Rudey! Tell Bobby I said hi!

[Tom Earp]

kddani and otw complaining about other mods who smack talk after they were removed as mods for doing the same and more? that's real rich.


Oh Rudey how can you even say things like this?

Please do not forget the rest who were demodded at the same time!!!:D

GeekyPenguin, KDDani and AXOAlum! Sandy is correct, she asked to be removed because she was getting heat from some of the snarky remarks along with some others who were demodded at once! Oh she got pissed as someone put her info on site! Dah, it is on many open links. She does not remember herself shitting on people after meeting them! They were not or did not seem to be in her strata! She aint no Hawian queen from what I have seen!


Dang that "rhyms " I think!;)

I was told it would not look good if they were gone and I wasn't! So I took it and moved on!

Some cannot I guess?


Damn Rudey what a fantastic memory you have!!!!!;)

Keep the faith my friend and keep up the great work!!!!

Love and peace!

[preciousjeni]

She aint no Hawian queen from what I have seen!
Well dang, Tom. Looks like the pain in your fingers subsided enough for you to say something totally inappropriate.

[Unregistered-]

Oh this is hilarious. It figures that Tom would create lies to divert the attention from himself. Those who were mods at that time know the real reason why I voluntarily left, and no, it wasn't because I was getting heat. I can take the heat, thank you.

He paints me to be this horrible person, but last time I checked, it was Tom that took things personal and offline by meddling in private official Alpha Gamma Delta business?

What's the deal, Tom? The women at HPRL getting creeped out by your lewd and disgusting PMs again? Are they not giving you attention?

[MysticCat]

^^^ Yeah, but too bad for you on not being a Hawian queen. :(

[pbear19]

I want to be sure that I am not attacking someone no matter who or what they be!

:confused: I can't believe no one has commented on this...

[Tom Earp]

Oh this is hilarious. It figures that Tom would create lies to divert the attention from himself. Those who were mods at that time know the real reason why I voluntarily left, and no, it wasn't because I was getting heat. I can take the heat, thank you.

He paints me to be this horrible person, but last time I checked, it was Tom that took things personal and offline by meddling in private official Alpha Gamma Delta business?

What's the deal, Tom? The women at HPRL getting creeped out by your lewd and disgusting PMs again? Are they not giving you attention?

Why are you not banned? You may not know this, but I asked J H to have you come back to GC. My mistake then as now!

You as usual spew garbage!:rolleyes:

Your smallness not only in stature is the same with your immaturity!

Oh, rember when You started crapping on AggieSnake?

I did not mettle with anything of AGD. I was told by them about you and I rember everything that was said!

You are damn lucky that you are a member of AGD! Oh, lets not forget how you told AGD on site to piss off and you will say what you want to and the hell with them! They do not rule you!:rolleyes:

So that is my fault?:rolleyes:

You slept in your posting and you knew that they were monitoring GC!

Golly, how friggen dumb does that make you?:D

GEEZE!

Say all you want and remember they are still watching the site!

So little girl (Thank You Rudey) where are you going to go and say Oh, I did not say that?:rolleyes:

Get it together anytime soon will be fine!

How does Bile taste?:rolleyes:

[Senusret I]

Why are you not banned? You may not know this, but I asked J H to have you come back to GC. My mistake then as now!

You as usual spew garbage!:rolleyes:

Your smallness not only in stature is the same with your immaturity!

Oh, rember when You started crapping on AggieSnake?

I did not mettle with anything of AGD. I was told by them about you and I rember everything that was said!

You are damn lucky that you are a member of AGD! Oh, lets not forget how you told AGD on site to piss off and you will say what you want to and the hell with them! They do not rule you!:rolleyes:

So that is my fault?:rolleyes:

You slept in your posting and you knew that they were monitoring GC!

Golly, how friggen dumb does that make you?:D

GEEZE!

Say all you want and remember they are still watching the site!

So little girl (Thank You Rudey) where are you going to go and say Oh, I did not say that?:rolleyes:

Get it together anytime soon will be fine!

How does Bile taste?:rolleyes:


And the fact that members of YOUR national grand high whatever also view YOUR posts and say and do nothing says volumes about the worth of your shingle.

Oh, I have a message for you...... Mr. Conard called and said he'd see you down there very soon.

[ZTAMich]

Ohhhhh snap.

[Unregistered-]

And the fact that members of YOUR national grand high whatever also view YOUR posts and say and do nothing says volumes about the worth of your shingle.

Oh, I have a message for you...... Mr. Conrad called and said he'd see you down there very soon.


Psst. It's Conard, lol.

I was going to hope for a collapsed lung, but that's fine too.

As for AggieSigmaNu (Kitso), he shat on himself the night he decided to hook up with Hootie and break the bed frame. Everyone knows that.

Everyone knows what Tom's done and I don't need to get into it. They know where to go to get the info. He can spew and mutter nonsense, but thankfully everyone knows what really happened.

You'll get yours soon enough, Tom.

[Tom Earp]

And the fact that members of YOUR national grand high whatever also view YOUR posts and say and do nothing says volumes about the worth of your shingle.

Oh, I have a message for you...... Mr. Conrad called and said he'd see you down there very soon.

Really?

My shingle/certificate is very important to me for being able to be a member.

How about yours?

First off smuck oh, putch (if You know the difference) learn to spell Conard correctly!:mad:

You never had the pleasure to meet this man that you would never be a pimple on his rosy red rear!:mad: He was very big in his Fraternity TKE and through him, I met many of his fellow Fraters! You have no clue do you?

Yes, I was the one who told them about GC!;)

That was when it was a very good and helpful site for GLOs!

But, times have changed and you seem to be one of the ones who are helping to screw it up!:o

If you ever again malign someone who has done so much for The Greek Community, I will contact you IHQ telling them what a dumb ass you are and can be!!!

I will also direct them to this site and give your user name!

God what a fool!:rolleyes:

Oh, how well do you do you know Bob London?

If I remember you are an APO?

If I am not correct let me know!

Have a fine day!;)

[epchick]

Your smallness not only in stature is the same with your immaturity!

Apparently OTW is a dwarf. Hmmm...you learn things every day :rolleyes:

I did not mettle with anything of AGD. I was told by them about you and I rember everything that was said!

You are damn lucky that you are a member of AGD! Oh, lets not forget how you told AGD on site to piss off and you will say what you want to and the hell with them! They do not rule you!:rolleyes:

So that is my fault?:rolleyes:

You slept in your posting and you knew that they were monitoring GC!


So, you knew EVERYTHING that OTW allegedly said to AGD, and what they said, but you didn't meddle?

Ok Tom. Keep living in your delusional world.

[Senusret I]

Really?

My shingle/certificate is very important to me for being able to be a member.

How about yours?

First off smuck oh, putch (if You know the difference) learn to spell Conard correctly!:mad:

You never had the pleasure to meet this man that you would never be a pimple on his rosy red rear!:mad: He was very big in his Fraternity TKE and through him, I met many of his fellow Fraters! You have no clue do you?

Yes, I was the one who told them about GC!;)

That was when it was a very good and helpful site for GLOs!

But, times have changed and you seem to be one of the ones who are helping to screw it up!:o

If you ever again malign someone who has done so much for The Greek Community, I will contact you IHQ telling them what a dumb ass you are and can be!!!

I will also direct them to this site and give your user name!

God what a fool!:rolleyes:

Oh, how well do you do you know Bob London?

If I remember you are an APO?

If I am not correct let me know!

Have a fine day!;)

I never spelled it right because I never cared.

So now you're making threats?

[epchick]

You never had the pleasure to meet this man that you would never be a pimple on his rosy red rear!:mad:


I guess you aren't lucky Senusret, or else you have been a pimple on someone's ass!!! Maybe next time.....maybe next time! lol.

[Senusret I]

LMAO....I know right?

[MysticCat]

First off smuck oh, putch (if You know the difference) learn to spell Conard correctly!:mad:The words are schmuck and putz -- and it doesn't look like you know the difference.

[Tom Earp]

The words are schmuck and putz -- and it doesn't look like you know the difference.

So, I aint Jewish are you?;)

So you want to be a spelling geek? The content never comes into play of GC?

Oh Boy?:rolleyes:


Oh, ask any ass whole on GC, I am a drunk!:rolleyes:

So you pretend to make yourself that much better?;)

Oh, did I spell everything correctly to the GC Specs?

So Sad ain't it?:o

[MysticCat]

The content never comes into play of GC?Sure it does . . . when the content makes sense.

So Sad ain't it?:oYes, it is.

[nittanyalum]

If you ever again malign someone who has done so much for The Greek Community, I will contact you IHQ telling them what a dumb ass you are and can be!!!

I will also direct them to this site and give your user name!
You are a friggin' lunatic.

Tattle-tale threats, really, Tom? That's pathetic. Why don't you just take your old sagging arse off this site once and for all and lose your login information. You will not be missed.

[preciousjeni]

Tattle-tale threats, really, Tom?
The trouble is, he's serious.

[nittanyalum]

The trouble is, he's serious.
Ohhh, I've heard. Friggin' lunatic.

[Jen]

Looks like viperous tongues are contagious!

[Tinia2]

in before bans and lock-down.

[Rudey]

Oh this is hilarious. It figures that Tom would create lies to divert the attention from himself. Those who were mods at that time know the real reason why I voluntarily left, and no, it wasn't because I was getting heat. I can take the heat, thank you.

He paints me to be this horrible person, but last time I checked, it was Tom that took things personal and offline by meddling in private official Alpha Gamma Delta business?

What's the deal, Tom? The women at HPRL getting creeped out by your lewd and disgusting PMs again? Are they not giving you attention?

Why can't you admit to being who you are? Be proud. You have been on here for years being cruel to others (when you're not making up lies about your life and bragging about your group sex experiences like Craig did). The "Random" thread even had to be re-started because of your acts.

-Rudey
--I'll let Bobby know but he's in TX and I'm in NY so when you're flying around the country to meet guys from the interwebz, just swing by his place!

[Senusret I]

.....so when you're flying around the country to meet guys from the interwebz, just swing by his place!

....

[Benzgirl]

Ohhh, I've heard. Friggin' lunatic.

And, all along, I thought his lunacy was due to a bad bottle of Mad Dog.

[Unregistered-]

Oh Rudey. Entertaining as usual. :)

[jwright25]

learn to spell

:eek:

[UGAalum94]

I've read and liked Lady Longhorn's post linked in OTW's signature, but what happened after that?

Will someone PM me? Thank you.

I have mixed feelings about free range meanness and moderation, but this seems to have blown up bigger than usual and I'm curious about what happened.

[Rudey]

Oh Rudey. Entertaining as usual. :)

It's not the usual gang bang you brag about in the dating forum, but I do hope the truth is "entertaining".

-Rudey

[Unregistered-]

I've read and liked Lady Longhorn's post linked in OTW's signature, but what happened after that?

Will someone PM me? Thank you.

I have mixed feelings about free range meanness and moderation, but this seems to have blown up bigger than usual and I'm curious about what happened.

I posted a thread asking why it was removed. That was moved as well.

It was pointed out that several similar threads in the Recruitment forum about heli-parenting (started by other users) were either moved or closed as well, but the one that was started by one of the moderators of that forum remained.

The moderator in question has yet to step up to the plate and explain why LadyLonghorn's post was moved without explanation because as you saw in my link, the post itself wasn't bad at all. Several moderators agreed. Many have pointed out that the thread was moved because the content of discussion just hit too close to home for that moderator.

At one point THIS thread was locked, but DeltAlum unlocked it. Rashid's post about heavy-handed moderation was created as a result of the mods' actions.

I think you should be up to date by now. :)

[MysticCat]

The moderator in question has yet to step up to the plate and explain why LadyLonghorn's post was moved without explanation because as you saw in my link, the post itself wasn't bad at all. Several moderators agreed. Many have pointed out that the thread was moved because the content of discussion just hit too close to home for that moderator.

. . . I think you should be up to date by now. :)Just to bring it a little more up-to-date, according to PenguinTrax in the thread Possible Thread: What to Do if You're Released from Recruitment (http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/showthread.php?t=89902):
And, this just in....

Carnation did not move LL's thread. Another SuperMod moved it due to name-calling and the ugliness that had come up in the responses. The issue is being discussed at length in the Mod's Corner right now as it is a case of a SM going overboard.

[kddani]

Just to bring it a little more up-to-date, according to PenguinTrax:


That's pretty damn crappy of the Supermod who moved it to not man (or woman) up to in the public forums. Instead, they allowed Candy to get lampooned. Real nice.

[moe.ron]

Why so serious?

[DeltAlum]

Well, this thread has probably generated more reported posts than any in the history of GreekChat.

It probably was a mistake to unlock it.

Let's see if you all can be kinder to one another.

Best of luck to all of you.

[preciousjeni]

Well, this thread has probably generated more reported posts than any in the history of GreekChat.

Really, people? Are we twelve?

ETA: Referring to those who actually report posts. Not to people who are speaking their minds.

[MysticCat]

That's pretty damn crappy of the Supermod who moved it to not man (or woman) up to in the public forums. Instead, they allowed Candy to get lampooned. Real nice.Isn't PenguinTrax the only female SuperMod? So I think it is manning up that's called for.

But yeah, I agree.

Well, this thread has probably generated more reported posts than any in the history of GreekChat.

It probably was a mistake to unlock it.No, I don't think it was a mistake. Keeping it locked would have just created more heat.

[33girl]

Just to bring it a little more up-to-date, according to PenguinTrax:

I'm more confused than Jessica Simpson in the meat department. Where did this post from PT come from???

[ZTAMich]

In A Recruitment Thread (http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/showpost.php?p=1696030&postcount=56)

why it wasn't posted here to directly respond to all this discussion IDK

[33girl]

Oh, oh, OK.

I think I know what happened here but I'll leave PT clear it up when she gets a chance.

[pbear19]

It would be a real shame to lock this thread, especially to lock it before there is any resolution of the initial issue with LL's thread.

This thread will die down, the situation will blow over eventually, as do all things internet related. But how it is handled now will determine how much of a stink it causes in the future. This is fodder for a lot of hypersensitivity towards mods on the part of the membership, as well as for potential sock puppets, pushing the boundaries, and general backlash. The best way to prevent all of that silliness in the future is to handle the situation maturely today, and locking the thread only ensures that all the above will happen with alacrity.

(Note that I have no intention of participating in the aforementioned 'silliness', it's merely what I predict to be a likely outcome from an observer's standpoint.)

[Unregistered-]

Isn't PenguinTrax the only female SuperMod? So I think it is manning up that's called for.

But yeah, I agree.

No, I don't think it was a mistake. Keeping it locked would have just created more heat.

NinjaPoodle is the other female Super Mod.

[MysticCat]

NinjaPoodle is the other female Super Mod.Ah. Thanks. I was thinking there are only 3 Super Mods.

[Unregistered-]

Just to bring it a little more up-to-date, according to PenguinTrax in the thread Possible Thread: What to Do if You're Released from Recruitment (http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/showthread.php?t=89902):

That's pretty damn crappy of the Supermod who moved it to not man (or woman) up to in the public forums. Instead, they allowed Candy to get lampooned. Real nice.

In A Recruitment Thread (http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/showpost.php?p=1696030&postcount=56)

why it wasn't posted here to directly respond to all this discussion IDK

...waiting for PT to clear things up, because come on. Do you really think a Super Mod did it? I sure don't.

Based from my experience, the 4 Super Mods (SAEAlumnus, James, PenguinTrax, and NinjaPoodle) have been really good about PM-ing me if something as little as editing one of my posts has been done. I really don't think it was any of the 4 SMs that moved LL's thread. I really wish LL would come back and post, because I miss her posting.

I feel like I'm playing a game of CLUE, and it was Professor Plum who did it!

[Senusret I]

...in the study....

[MysticCat]

I feel like I'm playing a game of CLUE, and it was Professor Plum who did it!Except that now, he's Victor Plum, the video-game designer and dot.com millionaire (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=93417780&ft=1&f=1052). ;)

[33girl]

Except that now, he's Victor Plum, the video-game designer and dot.com millionaire (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=93417780&ft=1&f=1052). ;)

Man, I hate that updating shit. Has anyone seen the disclaimer for "Forever"?

[nittanyalum]

Except that now, he's Victor Plum, the video-game designer and dot.com millionaire (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=93417780&ft=1&f=1052). ;)
They took away the lead pipe?!?!!! Well, then, that game just doesn't sound worth playing anymore. Bastids!

[epchick]

...in the study....

...with the wrench.

P.S. clue is like my favorite game. Its the only game I can win...i'm pretty badass at it! lol.

[MysticCat]

They took away the lead pipe?!?!!! Well, then, that game just doesn't sound worth playing anymore. Bastids!Really. They actually said on the NPR interview that people don't tend to have lead pipes lying around their houses anymore.

Part of the fun of "Clue" is that old British manor atmosphere. The update sounds more like "Matlock" or "Murder She Wrote." :rolleyes:

[Unregistered-]

...with the wrench.

P.S. clue is like my favorite game. Its the only game I can win...i'm pretty badass at it! lol.

My BF and I have CLUE DVD and I kick ass at the regular cases. He's better at the General Cases -- those I totally suck at.

[epchick]

My BF and I have CLUE DVD and I kick ass at the regular cases. He's better at the General Cases -- those I totally suck at.

There is a Clue DVD? I'm gonna have to invest in that game.

I have Clue 50 Mysteries, or something like that. Totally NOT fun!

[Unregistered-]

There is a Clue DVD? I'm gonna have to invest in that game.

I have Clue 50 Mysteries, or something like that. Totally NOT fun!

The edition (not sure if there's more than 1) we have has 10 regular cases. We try not to play too much so that we can forget who the culprit was. The general cases (selecting random cards from each pile) are unlimited.

[epchick]

Is there a cyberClue? That would be fun. I betcha I could beat epchick at it.

CHALLLLLUNNGE!!!! :p

aawwwww heck no!!! Its on like Donkey Kong!!!!! :D

[RED Kool-Aide]

So question, with all of these threads locked, why is the Sheryl Underwood thread still open?

[RED Kool-Aide]

Because we're still typing in it.

Interesting.

Everytime a new member disagrees with an old member on this message board, they are accused of being a troll or sock puppet?

It's like that, huh?

[texas*princess]

It's like that, huh?

well.....yea. :p

[Tinia2]

It's to be expected really. There's an inordinate amount of new people, and a large percentage of them come on here to:
(a) whine about how they/their child got cut from a group
(b) try and dig up dirt about the Greek system, and find how often we beat our NMs and make them stand naked on the street corner
(c) try and figure out how XYZ picks their new members
(d) pull any other ridiculous thing you can think of that stirs up trouble

All you can do is continue to post. If your post is good/logical/non-whiney, people may not agree with it, but they'll respect it. Continue doing that and you'll stopped being called such very hurtful names. :D

Disagreeing with one of the older members might make you appear like fitting into a-d, especially since the majority of them kinda know what they're doing. If you really disagree, stick to your guns, DON'T pull out a shallow, silly attack and be willing to admit you might be wrong. Many of them are.

P.S. Note my really tiny number of posts. I'm in the same boat as you, bud.
^^^very well said and posted. i will add only one other point. do not play with fonts, sizes, colors et al. just does not help to make you make a point or to look serious.