Suggestions

[John]

If there is a specific online store that you would like to see GC affiliate with, please forward your suggestions to me via private message or post to this thread. I'll do what I can to establish commissionable links with any online stores that are suggested.

[OTW]

I don't really buy Greek stuff these days, so unfortunately I can't help you there. :(

I have a question, though. Will you be only featuring links to Official Greek Licensed vendors (http://www.greeklicensing.com/)?

[John]

This effort is not limited to only Greek related sites. Any online stores can be suggested. In the near future I'll be looking into adding a thread for amazon.com

[kddani]

John,
You should set up a link for paypal donations to Greekchat, much like a number of blogs do. I'd happily send along a few bucks. There are many of us on Greekchat, probably the vast majority, that are out of undergrad and no longer buying much greek stuff anymore. In any event, I'd rather give some money that goes straight to the site than buy more stuff I don't need :D

Good luck,
Danielle

[jwright25]

You should set up a link for paypal donations to Greekchat, much like a number of blogs do. I'd happily send along a few bucks.

Me too. There are only a few things that I buy online and not sure if they do a click-through. I'll PM you the places I shop just in case.

[DSTRen13]

I don't really have too much money, but I am really picky about Greek products. I'd be more likely to donate directly to GC as KDDani mentioned or go to a site like Amazon.com. The places I buy my 'nalia are not the giants.

[AlethiaSi]

John,
You should set up a link for paypal donations to Greekchat, much like a number of blogs do. I'd happily send along a few bucks. There are many of us on Greekchat, probably the vast majority, that are out of undergrad and no longer buying much greek stuff anymore. In any event, I'd rather give some money that goes straight to the site than buy more stuff I don't need :D

Good luck,
Danielle

I agree with kddani, I am on GC everyday but graduated a few years ago, and no longer buy letters and such on the regular, so I'd be happy to donate! I've met some great people on here and would love to see GC continue and expand :)

[nittanyalum]

I think ebay does affiliates and a lot of people live on that site too. And co-sign on the greekgear thing, I won't do much shopping there.

But I'd be happy to donate directly, too... must.... feed... addiction......

[GeekyPenguin]

Have you considered doing Google ads?

[UGAalum94]

This may seem really silly, but I'd use an online florist set up through GreekChat, particularly one that deliberately designed GLO themed arrangements*.

I think a lot of chapters like to use floral arrangements during recruitment and that alumnae and parents send them and that actives might send them to each other for special occasions too.

*I think this would obviously have to involve a partnership with a local florist, but I've been kind of surprised that I hadn't seen anything like this. If you know of one, please post or send me a link.

[Leslie Anne]

Count me in on PayPal donations! I'm another one who doesn't buy much Greek items anymore. I like the florist and ebay ideas as well and if you could get amazon.com that would be fantastic. I buy tons of stuff from them.

My own idea would be to start some items at cafepress.com. Hey, I'd buy a Greekchat mug! :) It would work well especially if GC members could contribute their own artwork as well. We're a creative bunch (especially in the snark department.)

Cafepress also sells books on demand, audio and data CDs. With all the information we like to share (thinking about our trivia threads, info that Irishpipes has compiled, and oldu's recent threads) I think those might sell pretty well. Maybe also, off the top of my head...GC yearbook? Best/funniest quotes of the year with photos?

Just a thought.

Leslie Anne


ETA: As far as cafepress goes, someone would have to approve the designs because inevitibly there would be NPC/NPHC/NIC items submitted which would make GC an unlicensed vendor. But think about all the members of locals on GC. Many of the parapernalia sites don't cater to them at all. (Possibly MCGLOs too -- not sure about their licensing.)

[kddani]

Another idea- how about charging those people who use your website to recruit for their own greek related website (most of which they ripped off of you). :D If GC is going to be a focus for you, you shouldn't put up with people who are actively using GC to bring people to a competitor website.

[SAEalumnus]

Another idea- how about charging those people who use your website to recruit for their own greek related website (most of which they ripped off of you). :D If GC is going to be a focus for you, you shouldn't put up with people who are actively using GC to bring people to a competitor website.
Seconded

[33girl]

Being the makeup whore that I am (and I'm not the only one on here), I suggest sephora.com .

Oh and I agree with the last two posts.

Cafepress is a great idea, but unfortunately the best selling items would probably be hideously politically incorrect/against the TOS. :p

[cuteASAbug]

This may not be popular, but how about charging new posters a small fee (under $5) to register. Not only would this raise more money for upkeep, but it would also help cut down on spammers and banned member re-registering.

[Drolefille]

I dislike that idea myself.

And, I'd rather see ads here than donate money quite frankly. Unless GC is being run as a non-profit (not just as something that doesn't make a profit itself) I'm unlikely to donate.

[kddani]

I dislike that idea myself.

And, I'd rather see ads here than donate money quite frankly. Unless GC is being run as a non-profit (not just as something that doesn't make a profit itself) I'm unlikely to donate.

I don't know why John never took more advantage of ads. But there's only so much to makes from ads while still having a functioning site.

In any event, I'd throw in some money, because over the little less than 6 years that I have been a member of GC, the site has provided me with hours and hours of entertainment, allowed me to meet some wonderful people and form some lasting friendships. Not to mention the sheer amount of useful information here. That's worth some sort of donation, in my opinion.

[Drolefille]

I don't know why John never took more advantage of ads. But there's only so much to makes from ads while still having a functioning site.

In any event, I'd throw in some money, because over the little less than 6 years that I have been a member of GC, the site has provided me with hours and hours of entertainment, allowed me to meet some wonderful people and form some lasting friendships. Not to mention the sheer amount of useful information here. That's worth some sort of donation, in my opinion.
Fair enough, just my personal preference.

[mccoyred]

Have you considered doing Google ads?

I would be very disappointed to see Google ads on this site; I hate them with a passion!

I would, however, pay an annual fee or support paypal donations to keep GC functioning.

[DSTCHAOS]

I won't be donating or paying to take advantage of GC services.

[MaryAmanda]

This may not be popular, but how about charging new posters a small fee (under $5) to register. Not only would this raise more money for upkeep, but it would also help cut down on spammers and banned member re-registering.

You do realize that no more undergrads would ever sign up for GreekChat, right?

[cuteASAbug]

That is a problem. I just said it was a suggestion.

[NinjaPoodle]

Count me in on PayPal donations! I'm another one who doesn't buy much Greek items anymore. I like the florist and ebay ideas as well and if you could get amazon.com that would be fantastic. I buy tons of stuff from them.

My own idea would be to start some items at cafepress.com. Hey, I'd buy a Greekchat mug! :) It would work well especially if GC members could contribute their own artwork as well. We're a creative bunch (especially in the snark department.)

Cafepress also sells books on demand, audio and data CDs. With all the information we like to share (thinking about our trivia threads, info that Irishpipes has compiled, and oldu's recent threads) I think those might sell pretty well. Maybe also, off the top of my head...GC yearbook? Best/funniest quotes of the year with photos?

Just a thought.

Leslie Anne


ETA: As far as cafepress goes, someone would have to approve the designs because inevitibly there would be NPC/NPHC/NIC items submitted which would make GC an unlicensed vendor. But think about all the members of locals on GC. Many of the parapernalia sites don't cater to them at all. (Possibly MCGLOs too -- not sure about their licensing.)



I like this idea. I'm game to both and I also like the Amazon idea since I do shop there often.

[nittanyalum]

I don't have any graphics or image-making software, but if someone does and can match up this or a similar graphic: http://www.clipartof.com/gallery/clipart/computer_addict.html to a quippy saying (No one knows I'm a GreekChat Addict; Addicted to GC; GC Addict; What meeting? I'm busy on GC, etc., etc.) and put it on a cafepress.com mug or something, I'd totally buy one if it raised money for the site.

[DSTCHAOS]

What meeting? I'm busy on GC

That's funny. LOL.

(I wouldn't have a mug saying that, though. :()

[DolphinChicaDDD]

This may not be popular, but how about charging new posters a small fee (under $5) to register. Not only would this raise more money for upkeep, but it would also help cut down on spammers and banned member re-registering.

Kinda along the same line...I would suggest keeping registration free, but then after a year, charge $5-10.

I would also support a paypal donation.

Sephora is good, too. I put tons of money into them. Also, barnes and nobles or amazon. Those are my big three online retailers.

[Leslie Anne]

I don't have any graphics or image-making software, but if someone does and can match up this or a similar graphic: http://www.clipartof.com/gallery/clipart/computer_addict.html to a quippy saying (No one knows I'm a GreekChat Addict; Addicted to GC; GC Addict; What meeting? I'm busy on GC, etc., etc.) and put it on a cafepress.com mug or something, I'd totally buy one if it raised money for the site.

That would be cute!

The more I think about it the more I'm really into the cafepress idea. If John goes for it we could have a thread with suggestions and requests. And the great thing about cafepress is that if things don't sell you're not out any money. A basic store is free and it's all print on demand.

On my commute today I was thinking about a Who's Who of Greekchat book. I don't know if people would go for it but you'd only participate if you wanted to. It could include more than just Greek affiliation and the basics. I think it could be a valuable networking tool if it included special skills, areas of interest, any businesses you might own, etc. Might be a way to connect people on GC who otherwise wouldn't get to know eachother.

Just another thought.


Oh, and about making donations to GC via PayPal, I think it would be a good idea to start a poll -- maybe in the Chit Chat area to see how many people would support it.

[Educatingblue]

I think ebay does affiliates and a lot of people live on that site too. And co-sign on the greekgear thing, I won't do much shopping there.

But I'd be happy to donate directly, too... must.... feed... addiction......


Yeah I would definitely look into Ebay. I am on there everyday and find a lot of good deals...I also think paypal donations are a good idea too because something about greekgear doesn't appeal to me.

[KAPital PHINUst]

On my commute today I was thinking about a Who's Who of Greekchat book. I don't know if people would go for it but you'd only participate if you wanted to. It could include more than just Greek affiliation and the basics. I think it could be a valuable networking tool if it included special skills, areas of interest, any businesses you might own, etc. Might be a way to connect people on GC who otherwise wouldn't get to know eachother.

Just another thought.

I actually like that idea. It would be nice to place names with faces in one centralized format. It would also illustrate how diverse we at GC can be. :)

[cuteASAbug]

On my commute today I was thinking about a Who's Who of Greekchat book. I don't know if people would go for it but you'd only participate if you wanted to. It could include more than just Greek affiliation and the basics. I think it could be a valuable networking tool if it included special skills, areas of interest, any businesses you might own, etc. Might be a way to connect people on GC who otherwise wouldn't get to know eachother.
Can't we do that for free already on facebook?

[Leslie Anne]

Sure. Not everyone's on facebook but if that's the way you choose to connect that's great. Is there a Greekchat members group on facebook?


ETA: The idea was to have a ready-reference and to break out of the little niches on GC. We're a long-standing community. It was just an idea. :)

[Tom Earp]

I don't know why John never took more advantage of ads. But there's only so much to makes from ads while still having a functioning site.

In any event, I'd throw in some money, because over the little less than 6 years that I have been a member of GC, the site has provided me with hours and hours of entertainment, allowed me to meet some wonderful people and form some lasting friendships. Not to mention the sheer amount of useful information here. That's worth some sort of donation, in my opinion.

"OOPs, if I am remembering correctly, there were ads placed on GC by John!"

But, people got their shorts in a wad and said no way!:mad:

It was a free site and was given as such!

How many apprepciated it!

Not very many of you fine People!:(

Amazing Ain't it?

Have a nice day!

[DolphinChicaDDD]

"OOPs, if I am remembering correctly, there were ads placed on GC by John!"

But, people got their shorts in a wad and said no way!:mad:

It was a free site and was given as such!

How many apprepciated it!

Not very many of you fine People!:(

Amazing Ain't it?

Have a nice day!

Amazing how many people said they would contribute...but you choose to ignore all that. Also amazing how you don't appreciate the site because you are part of a direct competitor.

Amazing.

[John]

You should set up a link for paypal donations to Greekchat, much like a number of blogs do. I'd happily send along a few bucks.

Danielle, thanks for the suggestion. A number of people have offered over the years to help cover GC's expenses in this way. I've always hesitated doing this since GC is part of my online publishing business (although very minimally so far) and I didn't feel right making a donation link available.

But at this point, I think I will give the donations link a shot. I meant what I wrote in my "Please Help Support GC (http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/showthread.php?t=93931)" thread. Accepting donations might be just one way to help make it all happen. It might need to be worded as being tips, though, rather than donations (since GC is part of a biz). I'll check into it and will get a donations/tips link setup soon.

Have you considered doing Google ads?

Yes, I use Google ads on several other non forum type websites. I've also tested them on other forums. Google Adsense is quite good on non forum sites but not always that great on forums.

I do have a limited amount of Google ads on GC, in the archive (http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/archive/index.php). I haven't used them within the actual forums partly due to mccoyred's reason below:

I would be very disappointed to see Google ads on this site; I hate them with a passion!

I would, however, pay an annual fee or support paypal donations to keep GC functioning.

I do have a plan to help turn GC into more of an ad supported website, but it wouldn't be much like Google Adsense. I'd like to keep the intrusiveness of advertising on GC to a minimum while at the same time making the ads to be more of a benefit to members & site visitors (instead of ads that simply get in the way). It will take a bit of work, time & some money invested to make that part happen. We'll see what the future has in store for GC soon enough.

Me too. There are only a few things that I buy online and not sure if they do a click-through. I'll PM you the places I shop just in case.

Thanks. I'll check your PM soon.

I think ebay does affiliates and a lot of people live on that site too. And co-sign on the greekgear thing, I won't do much shopping there.

But I'd be happy to donate directly, too... must.... feed... addiction......

eBay sounds like a good potential affiliate. I like that site as well. I'll check into it.

This may seem really silly, but I'd use an online florist set up through GreekChat, particularly one that deliberately designed GLO themed arrangements*.

This actually sounds like a potentially good business plan for an online florist. I don't know of any doing this, but there are a number of online florists with affiliate programs. They might be worth looking into. Let me know if you come across any with GLO themed arrangements, etc.

My own idea would be to start some items at cafepress.com.

Cafepress sounds like something to at least consider. I've thought about possibly doing this sort of thing directly, maybe with GC designed mousepads or mugs. We could have some sort of pre-ordering time period to get up to a manufacturer's minimums... then once the minimum is reached the order can be placed & items shipped out. That way I would not need to buy a bulk quantity in advance and hope to sell all, but it would also put quite a delay on delivery. Anyhow, definitely stuff to think about here as a possibility.

Another idea- how about charging those people who use your website to recruit for their own greek related website (most of which they ripped off of you). :D If GC is going to be a focus for you, you shouldn't put up with people who are actively using GC to bring people to a competitor website.

Hmmm... I almost always delete those sorts of messages and often ban the accounts as well. I simply cannot justify permitting other online businesses to siphon off GC considering what I continue to spend and have spent in the past to build and maintain this site.

I haven't noticed any doing this lately. If you would like to do so, please feel free to send profile links to me via PM of any accounts using GC for the purpose of promoting their competitive websites.

Being the makeup whore that I am (and I'm not the only one on here), I suggest sephora.com .

Thanks for the suggestion. I'll check into sephora as a potential affiliate. I believe they do have an affiliate program as I recall seeing it advertised or mentioned on a web publishing type site.

This may not be popular, but how about charging new posters a small fee (under $5) to register. Not only would this raise more money for upkeep, but it would also help cut down on spammers and banned member re-registering.

Automated forum spam is constantly on the rise. The spam bots are getting better and better... at some point in the future I wouldn't be surprised if some spam-bot is designed that spreads like a virus, attacking forums all over the net. In any case, if that was to happen I also have thought about the possibility of having a very low registration fee. Something so low that it wouldn't even get an afterthought by real site visitors (maybe $1 to register) and automated spam-bots would either not be able to register at all (due to the $1 registration fee) or they wouldn't want to keep paying over and over while their accounts were banned.

I would greatly prefer to stay away from any sort of mandatory membership fees or registration fees, though. I also wouldn't want any sort of fee, even if very small and one-time, to be an obstacle for undergrads or really anyone who might want to be a GCer.

I won't be donating or paying to take advantage of GC services.

Hey, you & GC make a perfect match! :) GC has no intention of charging for use of the site or requiring donations, etc. Any donations/tips would be completely voluntary. GC has been completely free to members for nearly 10 years, I don't plan on changing that. :)

[NinjaPoodle]

Is there a Greekchat members group on facebook?


Yes, just type in 'greekchat' in the search feature

[WhiteDaisy128]

What about making a premium account option? For $5 or $10 you get access to special forums or some other perk (I've frequented sites that allow paying premium members photo galleries, etc.) - maybe even small avatars, etc. - not sure if that would be easy or just mean more $$ you would have to spend...

[John]

What about making a premium account option? For $5 or $10 you get access to special forums or some other perk (I've frequented sites that allow paying premium members photo galleries, etc.) - maybe even small avatars, etc. - not sure if that would be easy or just mean more $$ you would have to spend...

The possibility of premium accounts will be given serious consideration in the near future. If premium accounts are ever available in the future they would give additional account services/features beyond what is currently available for free. Free access to GC would remain at no cost to all members and site visitors. I think the issue I am confronted with regarding the possibility of premium accounts is that I would like to have all (or the vast majority) of future new GC features to be available to all accounts. So that leaves me with the question of what extras would be available to premium accounts. Definitely something to think more about.

Regarding avatars, I would like to enable them in the near future for anyone who wants to use them. Anyone who does not like to see avatars within discussion threads would be able to turn them off.

[Senusret I]

Regarding avatars, I would like to enable them in the near future for anyone who wants to use them. Anyone who does not like to see avatars within discussion threads would be able to turn them off.

YES!!!!!!

[DSTCHAOS]

Hey, you & GC make a perfect match! :) GC has no intention of charging for use of the site or requiring donations, etc. Any donations/tips would be completely voluntary. GC has been completely free to members for nearly 10 years, I don't plan on changing that. :)

You rock. :D

[honeychile]

John,
You should set up a link for paypal donations to Greekchat, much like a number of blogs do. I'd happily send along a few bucks. There are many of us on Greekchat, probably the vast majority, that are out of undergrad and no longer buying much greek stuff anymore. In any event, I'd rather give some money that goes straight to the site than buy more stuff I don't need :D

Good luck,
Danielle
Agree. There's only so many things an alum can buy before people start thinking that they're living in the past.

This may seem really silly, but I'd use an online florist set up through GreekChat, particularly one that deliberately designed GLO themed arrangements*.

I think a lot of chapters like to use floral arrangements during recruitment and that alumnae and parents send them and that actives might send them to each other for special occasions too.

*I think this would obviously have to involve a partnership with a local florist, but I've been kind of surprised that I hadn't seen anything like this. If you know of one, please post or send me a link.
Somewhere in all of the Rush Forums, there were some mothers who were able to do this. I want to say U of Arkansas, but this is definitely a bandwagon some florist should jump on! I know that I have an online florist & a specific bouquet bookmarked, and send the same thing to my chapter every year, even though the colors aren't exactly right.

This may not be popular, but how about charging new posters a small fee (under $5) to register. Not only would this raise more money for upkeep, but it would also help cut down on spammers and banned member re-registering.
I like this idea, as I've seen it in action - and it does cut down on the spammers.

The site I know which does this has a tier system:
Tier One: Free, but with LOTS of ads
Tier Two: Small donation (I think it's $10 or $15), minimal ads (just top & bottom)
Tier Three: Double the amount of Tier Two, NO ads.

For Tiers Two & Three, there is a "double-secret" Forum where they can post with minimal moderation, and the Tier One people can't see it. The owner of this site was somewhat forced into this decision, much like John. He started the Tier System about 8-9 years ago, and it's worked out quite well - people pay what they can, and isn't not out of reach for students, even at the paying rates. The last I heard, he was able to add a lot more mega- or gigabytes (I plead technophobia), and was still making a profit.

[preciousjeni]

The site I know which does this has a tier system:
Tier One: Free, but with LOTS of ads
Tier Two: Small donation (I think it's $10 or $15), minimal ads (just top & bottom)
Tier Three: Double the amount of Tier Two, NO ads.

For Tiers Two & Three, there is a "double-secret" Forum where they can post with minimal moderation, and the Tier One people can't see it. The owner of this site was somewhat forced into this decision, much like John. He started the Tier System about 8-9 years ago, and it's worked out quite well - people pay what they can, and isn't not out of reach for students, even at the paying rates. The last I heard, he was able to add a lot more mega- or gigabytes (I plead technophobia), and was still making a profit.
I would pay for this.

[kddani]

Hmmm... I almost always delete those sorts of messages and often ban the accounts as well. I simply cannot justify permitting other online businesses to siphon off GC considering what I continue to spend and have spent in the past to build and maintain this site.

I haven't noticed any doing this lately. If you would like to do so, please feel free to send profile links to me via PM of any accounts using GC for the purpose of promoting their competitive websites.




John, I find it hard to believe that it hasn't been brought up in the mod's corner numerous times that Tom and others from his site (the various blueangel entities, and most recently Navane has also been talking about the site a lot) PM people who are maybe having a hard time on GC and invite them over to their site.

This has been common knowledge for awhile, and various GCers have posted quite openly that they received PMs inviting them to those sites.

Unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately) I haven't received an invite, for obvious reasons. But a lot of people have, and GC has been the vehicle for recruitment to their website.

Or perhaps you should contact your attorney, because Tom's site blatantly rips off GC, including cut and pasted content, etc. ...

[WhiteDaisy128]

The possibility of premium accounts will be given serious consideration in the near future. If premium accounts are ever available in the future they would give additional account services/features beyond what is currently available for free. Free access to GC would remain at no cost to all members and site visitors. I think the issue I am confronted with regarding the possibility of premium accounts is that I would like to have all (or the vast majority) of future new GC features to be available to all accounts. So that leaves me with the question of what extras would be available to premium accounts. Definitely something to think more about.

Regarding avatars, I would like to enable them in the near future for anyone who wants to use them. Anyone who does not like to see avatars within discussion threads would be able to turn them off.

Another site I frequent (the same I mentioned above) has this as it's premium perks:


A custom status name changable by YOU.
HTML posting access in all message areas. Pretty colors and other cool stuff!
Access to the exclusive "Premium Palace" message board.
A unique "chatterbox" replaces the banner ad on the top right of every page.
Access to special content objects for a customizable homepage.
Access to the My Buddies page allows you to track your friends and see which of them are online.
The ability to create subfolders within your Photo Gallery.I know we all have the ability to add color or whatnot now, but that might be something small that could be removed from regular accounts with out much of a riot (I think??!). Then we obviously don't have photo galleries...but you get the picture. The chatterbox is really cool...it's the size of a banner advertisement and you can just type in it and chat in real time. Or maybe even bringing back a real time chat feature for premies.

[SthrnZeta]

I like the chatterbox and photo gallery ideas - it would definitely be more convenient to just type a quick real time message to someone rather than fooling with PMs all the time.

Charging a small fee just to register I think is a good idea - let's not make GC into Spamalot!

[33girl]

I know I've said this before, but I am 1000% against any mandatory fee or any fee for "premium" membership. I don't think it will prevent the spammers or batshits - the only ones it will prevent joining will be new posters, and this place will get more & more insular.

Why not try a pledge drive and see how much people give before we start talking about fees? I think we have enough people here who feel strongly about GC that they'll donate - any other board I've been on has only had to ask and the "pledge drive" was over within 3 days.

[nittanyalum]

let's not make GC into Spamalot!
Or myspace or facebook or whatever. I know the undergraduates are used to those sites with all the clutter and the sparkles and whatnot, but I, personally, really like the "calm" look and feel of GC currently. I'd be happy to pay for a premium account or whatever would bring in some cash flow, but I'd like to also be able to 'opt out' of any of the 'sparkly' stuff and keep the look and feel basically the same if I could.

[33girl]

Or myspace or facebook or whatever. I know the undergraduates are used to those sites with all the clutter and the sparkles and whatnot, but I, personally, really like the "calm" look and feel of GC currently. I'd be happy to pay for a premium account or whatever would bring in some cash flow, but I'd like to also be able to 'opt out' of any of the 'sparkly' stuff and keep the look and feel basically the same if I could.

Amen. It seems all the possible "premium" things are just clutter and flashing lights. I would be LESS likely to pay if it gave me these things - I'd much rather have a banner ad at the top that I can just ignore.

I think as far as the previous ads, people didn't take advantage of it because it wasn't things that people were buying, or they were used to going through their GLO's site to do so. I certainly don't think we should have ads that are going to take $$ out of our GLOs' mouths. The less "Greek" the banner ads here are, the better, IMO.

[SthrnZeta]

Or myspace or facebook or whatever. I know the undergraduates are used to those sites with all the clutter and the sparkles and whatnot, but I, personally, really like the "calm" look and feel of GC currently. I'd be happy to pay for a premium account or whatever would bring in some cash flow, but I'd like to also be able to 'opt out' of any of the 'sparkly' stuff and keep the look and feel basically the same if I could.

Oh I don't want all of those "applications" either, but I think a chat function would be nice - rooms to go with the topics for example - and then it would truly be greekCHAT. Clutter I could also do without but I think adding a few new features to GC wouldn't be a bad thing. I don't know that I would pay for premium services since I rarely if ever do that now but a one time intial fee I'd be willing to cough up, just no monthly/yearly/whatever fees. And being able to turn off the display of such extra features would be nice for those that don't want/need them. :)

[33girl]

Oh I don't want all of those "applications" either, but I think a chat function would be nice - rooms to go with the topics for example - and then it would truly be greekCHAT. Clutter I could also do without but I think adding a few new features to GC wouldn't be a bad thing. I don't know that I would pay for premium services since I rarely if ever do that now but a one time intial fee I'd be willing to cough up, just no monthly/yearly/whatever fees. And being able to turn off the display of such extra features would be nice for those that don't want/need them. :)

We had a chat function years ago. The only reason it didn't get used is because the Greek nationals took the rooms over. We don't need anything new and fancy for that.

[SthrnZeta]

We had a chat function years ago. The only reason it didn't get used is because the Greek nationals took the rooms over. We don't need anything new and fancy for that.

So, do you mean that Nationals were in the rooms and people were not being entirely honest (i.e., on their best behavior?) I'm confused. And if that's that case, I find that sad that we can't honestly discuss Greek (and non-Greek) stuff without posting it permanently on a message board or without fear that we may "get in trouble with IO."

[33girl]

So, do you mean that Nationals were in the rooms and people were not being entirely honest (i.e., on their best behavior?) I'm confused. And if that's that case, I find that sad that we can't honestly discuss Greek (and non-Greek) stuff without posting it permanently on a message board or without fear that we may "get in trouble with IO."

ha ha, no no no.

I meant the Greeks who are from the country of Greece. And they were really assy about it when we tried to get them out of there and explain what the site was for.

[SthrnZeta]

ha ha, no no no.

I meant the Greeks who are from the country of Greece. And they were really assy about it when we tried to get them out of there and explain what the site was for.

LOL, wow, I totally misread that. That's actually pretty funny! Did any GCers go to a Greek chat and start talking about sorority stuff? I mean, it's only fair :p

[catiebug]

Shouldn't that be "recruitment drive"???
:D

Why not try a pledge drive...

[SthrnZeta]

Shouldn't that be "recruitment drive"???
:D

I can't believe you went there, LOL.

[ThetaPrincess24]

i like the idea of Sephora.com ad's!!!!!!

[John]

John, I find it hard to believe that it hasn't been brought up in the mod's corner numerous times that Tom and others from his site (the various blueangel entities, and most recently Navane has also been talking about the site a lot) PM people who are maybe having a hard time on GC and invite them over to their site.

I knew about Tom promoting another site via GC and I asked him to no longer do that quite a few months ago. Hopefully he has not started with those promotions again. Another account was reported to me yesterday, which I have PMed to also ask that they no longer use GC as a recruiting tool for other websites. I didn't know about Navane... will be sending a PM soon to her as well.

In the past year or so there have been 5 to 10 other websites spamming GC for the same purpose. Just so everyone knows, I don't have an issue with other sites being available - I just do not want them promoting their businesses and websites at my/GC's expense.

The chatterbox is really cool...it's the size of a banner advertisement and you can just type in it and chat in real time. Or maybe even bringing back a real time chat feature for premies.

All those extras sound pretty good, some are features that I have been considering for GC as well. If at all possible I would like to make new features available without any sort of premium membership required. We'll see how that goes.

Photo galleries, bringing back the real-time chat & a chat box on some or all pages are other features that I have planned for GC in the near future (once I can devote the time to do all that).

I think as far as the previous ads, people didn't take advantage of it because it wasn't things that people were buying, or they were used to going through their GLO's site to do so. I certainly don't think we should have ads that are going to take $$ out of our GLOs' mouths. The less "Greek" the banner ads here are, the better, IMO.

Good point. I wouldn't want any business here to adversely impact GLOs. I very rarely ever use banner ads or give significant levels of brand promotion to commission based sales, anyhow. Banners might be a part of this effort in the future, but it won't be based on commissions. GLOs, at least most as far as I know, will still earn $$ from Greekgear (http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/showthread.php?t=93932) sales via GC due to the fact that Greekgear pays royalties (I believe to all/most orgs... I don't know the specifics of that).

and then it would truly be greekCHAT

That is how GC originally started out, as a real-time chat system. When I relaunch the chat on GC it will probably be using the same software but better integrated into the membership database. GCers might even be able to create their own chat rooms & etc... I need to look more into it before I know exactly how it will be setup.

[SthrnZeta]

Sounds like you're doing a great job John!!! I'm excited to see the updated features when they're up and running :)

[OTW]

I knew about Tom promoting another site via GC and I asked him to no longer do that quite a few months ago. Hopefully he has not started with those promotions again. Another account was reported to me yesterday, which I have PMed to also ask that they no longer use GC as a recruiting tool for other websites. I didn't know about Navane... will be sending a PM soon to her as well.

Unless you can start monitoring PMs sent, I doubt you'll be able to stop him and others from promoting the other site.

Many GCers (regular posters, but oftentimes newly registered ones) have received unsolicited PMs encouraging them to check out the other site, so these promotions are still very much going on.

[John]

Sounds like you're doing a great job John!!! I'm excited to see the updated features when they're up and running :)

Thanks. Well, we're not quite there just yet. All of that will take time & resources, so I will need to see how this fundraising effort works out first. Then can soon move on to working on other enhancements for GC.

I have many pages of ideas for GC. Some are small and others are fairly big improvements. Some might not be hosted on the greekchat.com address but would still be connected as part of GC. All the really good stuff will take a lot of time & resources to make them a reality.

My next items to be worked on are making sure the Greekgear commission links are working properly, getting links up for Amazon, eBay, Sephora and also a PayPal donations/tips link for anyone who wants to help support GC in that way.

Maybe at some point this "Help Support GC" forum will be full of many different places to shop online and anyone shopping via the links will be helping GC in the form of a small commission on the sale.

[John]

Unless you can start monitoring PMs sent, I doubt you'll be able to stop him and others from promoting the other site.

Many GCers (regular posters, but oftentimes newly registered ones) have received unsolicited PMs encouraging them to check out the other site, so these promotions are still very much going on.

Members can report when they receive PMs like this, but I won't be monitoring PMs - that's not something I would want to be doing.

One option might be be to block out the address of the website being spammed/promoted. That would automatically replace the website address with a bunch of asterisks ************, whether posted via PM or in the forums. I don't usually make use of that feature of the forum software, but might do that if the spamming and PM advertising does not stop. Another alternative could also be to simply remove the private messaging feature from any accounts that are used for doing this.

[OTW]

Members can report when they receive PMs like this, but I won't be monitoring PMs - that's not something I would want to be doing.

One option might be be to block out the address of the website being spammed/promoted. That would automatically replace the website address with a bunch of asterisks ************, whether posted via PM or in the forums. I don't usually make use of that feature of the forum software, but might do that if the spamming and PM advertising does not stop. Another alternative could also be to simply remove the private messaging feature from any accounts that are used for doing this.

I agree with all of this! Especially the asterisks!!!

[33girl]

Another alternative could also be to simply remove the private messaging feature from any accounts that are used for doing this.

That's probably your best bet, as the words that are the name of the site are words that sometimes get used here. :)

[navane]

and most recently Navane has also been talking about the site a lot) PM people who are maybe having a hard time on GC and invite them over to their site.

"A lot" = two posts? In two posts I specifically referenced the site and there were two additional posts in that thread that made no reference to the site at all.

OK, so I recently mentioned the other site during a related discussion in the chit chat area. People give the names of other Greek-related boards all the time and many, many GCers have referenced the site in question using a different (four-letter) abbreviation. Other GCers have outright posted the link (which I did not do). I honestly was not aware that mentioning the name or abbreviation of another website was not allowed.

As for PMing people, I did mention the other website in PM three times in the past year: one was on my own initiative, one was by request, and one of those times was a GC moderator, who I've met IRL, who contacted me and asked me to give the link since that person became curious about all of the fuss.

I'm a straightforward woman and I've got no problem telling the truth. I feel like I am unfairly being pegged for this hoo-hah. John PM'd me and was very polite and reasonable; I was not threatened with any action. So, as far as I'm concerned, I'm ok on this one.

.....Kelly

[MysticCat]

That's probably your best bet, as the words that are the name of the site are words that sometimes get used here. :)Not in URL form, though.

[John]

So, as far as I'm concerned, I'm ok on this one.

I received your PM and sent a reply. It's all good, we understand each other with regards to the issue.

[icelandelf]

I love the idea of the pledge drive (I'll happily donate), the tiered membership (yep on that one too!) and some of the places I shop online frequently are

Sephora
LL Bean
Williams Sonoma
Dean and DeLuca

I'm not averse (sp?) to the idea of having some Greek shops online through GC either, although as some of the others have said, as an alum, I wouldn't be able to be a frequent shopper.

[jon1856]

I love the idea of the pledge drive (I'll happily donate), the tiered membership (yep on that one too!) and some of the places I shop online frequently are

Sephora
LL Bean
Williams Sonoma
Dean and DeLuca

I'm not averse (sp?) to the idea of having some Greek shops online through GC either, although as some of the others have said, as an alum, I wouldn't be able to be a frequent shopper.
I would agree as well.
And most of my on-lines buys are:
Amazon.com
Filson.com
Duluthtrading.com
And I still am unable to get those links to work for Greekgear John:(
However amazon DID work:confused:

[honeychile]

FWIW, for online stores, I lean towards:

Barnes&Noble.com
Borders.com
Overstock.com

[SthrnZeta]

While we're tossing out store names... I would totally click on a link here to Ann Taylor :D

[Senusret I]

I wonder if there was a way you could have "MyGreekChat" where you fill out a survey or profile where you decide which ads you'd like to see. Personally, I'd only want to see ads for Borders Books & Music and greek para sites.

[SmartBlondeGPhB]

While we're tossing out store names... I would totally click on a link here to Ann Taylor :D

Second that one.

And what about Vera Bradley and Coach....:D

And I believe we have a number of Lush addicts that frequent GC.:D

[SmartBlondeGPhB]

The possibility of premium accounts will be given serious consideration in the near future. If premium accounts are ever available in the future they would give additional account services/features beyond what is currently available for free. Free access to GC would remain at no cost to all members and site visitors. I think the issue I am confronted with regarding the possibility of premium accounts is that I would like to have all (or the vast majority) of future new GC features to be available to all accounts. So that leaves me with the question of what extras would be available to premium accounts. Definitely something to think more about.

Regarding avatars, I would like to enable them in the near future for anyone who wants to use them. Anyone who does not like to see avatars within discussion threads would be able to turn them off.

Maybe avatars could be part of the premium account.......

[Stef the Pef]

I think you have a wide enough base of regulars here who would donate to get a premium account without having to add a lot of ads and things. Make sponsorship levels go from low ($1 a month) to high (???) so that a lot of the still-in-college set who frequents these boards can still donate if they want, but not feel like they're giving up food for a week to do so, too. :)

Making a chat room donation-only would be a good add-on. It would keep the Greek-speaking Greeks from taking over the place to let the actual audience of the site use it, IMHO.

Other small add-ons that would keep the clean look of the place going might be the addition of small avatars or the ability to keep more private messages in your PM inbox before you have to clean it out.

As for stores I'd like to see, nordstrom.com and zappos.com might be good additions to the list. (ohmigawd, shoes!) I got some of my textbooks this semester at half.com and a1books.com, too--I'd click through here to buy books if I knew they would kick a little of it back to GC.

Sure. Not everyone's on facebook but if that's the way you choose to connect that's great. Is there a Greekchat members group on facebook?

I'm no longer a member of it from when I turned the privacy settings on my account way, way up, but there is a GC facebook group: http://baylor.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2204514758

[ThetaPrincess24]

While we're tossing out store names... I would totally click on a link here to Ann Taylor :D



In the case of store names then I'll add my two cents:

SmartBargains.com
RedEnvelope.com
eluxury.com
bluefly.com


TheBudgetFashionista.com is a cool little website too.

[honeychile]

Maybe avatars could be part of the premium account.......
Darn! Meant to say that avatars is part of the premium service tiers that I mentioned, too.

[KAPital PHINUst]

Maybe avatars could be part of the premium account.......

How about access to and/or inclusion of a members only subforum of our org's forums (visible only to those premium members)? I know for our forum, that would be a godsend.

(and yes, avatars would be a great addition to GC as a whole). ;) :D

[DSTRen13]

Second that one.

And what about Vera Bradley and Coach....:D

And I believe we have a number of Lush addicts that frequent GC.:D

Oh, I would go extra broke if there were Lush ads on here taunting me ... damn.

[nittanyalum]

How about access to and/or inclusion of a members only subforum of our org's forums (visible only to those premium members)? I know for our forum, that would be a godsend.
Or you could just go start a yahoo group and stop trying to change the basic nature of a public forum. But then you couldn't put your personal stuff on blast to as many faceless strangers as possible, and what fun would that be?

[Senusret I]

http://hplolz.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/mcgonagall-dailyprophet.jpg

[DSTCHAOS]

DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

[DSTCHAOS]

Oh, I would go extra broke if there were Lush ads on here taunting me ... damn.

I had never heard of Lush until I read this post. I found the official site and might give it a try. :D

[OTW]

I had never heard of Lush until I read this post. I found the official site and might give it a try. :D

I never heard of Lush or Vera Bradley until GC.

I said I'd never own a Vera and now I own two. I still haven't gone to the Lush dark side, though! ;)

[DSTCHAOS]

I never heard of Lush or Vera Bradley until GC.

I said I'd never own a Vera and now I own two. I still haven't gone to the Lush dark side, though! ;)

I had seen VB but didn't know it was called VB until GC.

How'd you find a cute VB? Everything I've seen in person and on the official site is ugly.

(I won't be trying Lush if it's overpriced. I can get my organic body stuff from Whole Foods, for goodness sake)

[OTW]

I had seen VB but didn't know it was called VB until GC.

How'd you find a cute VB? Everything I've seen in person and on the official site is ugly.



Honestly? The Vera Bradley thread here on GC and SisterHavana and Jill1228's LiveJournal blogs. Those two are walking catalogs for VB and usually when something new becomes part of the season, they're on it. They'll often post pics of their new loot, so it's easier to check it out there than on the VB site.

A lot of their prints are just plain ugly, and that's why I only have two so far that I liked so much. I turned into a bidding maniac on eBay for both bags. :o

[DSTCHAOS]

Honestly? The Vera Bradley thread here on GC and SisterHavana and Jill1228's LiveJournal blogs. Those two are walking catalogs for VB and usually when something new becomes part of the season, they're on it. They'll often post pics of their new loot, so it's easier to check it out there than on the VB site.

A lot of their prints are just plain ugly, and that's why I only have two so far that I liked so much. I turned into a bidding maniac on eBay for both bags. :o

You might be a bad influence on me. If I end up getting a VB, I will PM you the bill. :mad:

[KAPital PHINUst]

Or you could just go start a yahoo group and stop trying to change the basic nature of a public forum.

When John says this instead of you, I'll take that into consideration.

Thanks for posting.

[starang21]

How about access to and/or inclusion of a members only subforum of our org's forums (visible only to those premium members)? I know for our forum, that would be a godsend.

(and yes, avatars would be a great addition to GC as a whole). ;) :D

that'd be the fastest way for you to get kicked out of that room

LOLOL

[Stef the Pef]

How about access to and/or inclusion of a members only subforum of our org's forums (visible only to those premium members)? I know for our forum, that would be a godsend.

(and yes, avatars would be a great addition to GC as a whole). ;) :D
Not every group's forum is that busy, though. There's a lot that get maybe one or two posts a week.


I will, however, second the Vera Bradley suggestion. I'm in need of a new umbrella since the wind blew my Peacock one inside-out. :( I've never seen Lush, but it seems like it would get a lot of clicks, too.

[Handskillz]

I honestly don't know if anyone has already endorsed this vendor, but stuff4greeks.com-in my opinion- is an excellent internet based company; they might be of some assistance.

[tld221]

i honestly wouldnt want to pay for GC, in a yearly subscription format or a tiered membership format. we all go through waves of GC usage (sometimes im on here ALL day, sometimes i bypass the site for days/weeks at a time because life gets in the way)

i'm not being a cheapskate, but its the principle. i think the site will get a little TOO exclusive. i dont know any alternatives really... i suppose i would give a one-time donation, how much, i dunno.

but this idea of proceeds going to GC, i support that. Here are some of my online favs:

adgreek.com (local greek store)
stuff4greeks.com (ive never bought from them but everyone i know who has used them 100% supports their work)
the body shop
crate and barrel
mac makeup
sephora.com
coach.com
ooh, what about netflix.com?

and what about that goodsearch.com/goodshopping.com site?

[cuteASAbug]

and what about that goodsearch.com/goodshopping.com site?
Those wouldn't work because you can only use them for a 501c3 non-profit.

[OTW]

We could find another host.

John can correct me if I'm wrong, but it's not just about finding another host.

It costs a whole crapload of $$$ to get the software this forum uses. Not only that, but the license to use it isn't cheap, either. Factor in the necessary upgrades (that cost $$$ too) and that's one heavy bill for John.

[OTW]

I do understand who he is, but what OTW said was unclear to my knowledge.

You DO know what software is, right?

John pays money for the software. He also pays money to have permission to use the software.

No software = No GreekChat.

It's not rocket science.

If it's still unclear, then move on. This thread doesn't concern you.

[OTW]

But she can move to PhpBB or something. Its free.

Just because it's free doesn't necessarily mean it'll do the job for GreekChat.

I could have sworn that GreekChat used to be on PhpBB but I could be wrong. That aside, there's a reason why GreekChat is on vBulletin and NOT PhpBB.

This thread is about suggestions and ideas to help raise funds, not what host, server, or software GreekChat should be using. Troll, we don't care about what you think.

[knight_shadow]

But she can move to PhpBB or something. Its free.

John = she? Really?

Go away troll.

:rolleyes:

[SAEalumnus]

^^^We need John or a super mod to come on in here with a big ol' can of deltabug-be-gone spray.
handled

[jon1856]

handled
Thank you Brother.

I would suggest that all of us who posted remove our own postings.

[starang21]

what'd deltabug do that has everyone up in arms?

[AKA_Monet]

Can someone purchase Banners to the site?

[lawgal]

John, If you could find a good vendor for the white dresses used by the sororities for pledging, initiation, ritual or the like, and have them give GC a commission, you would be doing a great public service as well!

[DSTCHAOS]

..

Darn!!! Right when I was quoting it for posterity!!! :( I guess your balls weren't as big you felt they were, afterall.

Oh well...thanks for registering just to lecture the donators and deleting your post.

[Senusret I]

We don't want a good principal! We want Mr. Clark!

FREE MR. CLARK!

[Senusret I]

Darn!!! Right when I was quoting it for posterity!!! :( I guess your balls weren't as big you felt they were, afterall.

Oh well...thanks for registering just to lecture the donators and deleting your post.

I know right? I still have it in my inbox though.

[DSTCHAOS]

We don't want a good principal! We want Mr. Clark!

FREE MR. CLARK!
"Mr. Clark don't play!!!"

[DSTCHAOS]

I know right? I still have it in my inbox though.

FREE MR CLARK! FREE MR CLARK!!

[preciousjeni]

I know right? I still have it in my inbox though.

That junk was crazy, boy. I say go ahead and post it anyway.

[Senusret I]

ruserious said:

I literally CANNOT BELIEVE this thread, so much that I had to register on here and tell you all that you are all getting scammed, how dumb can you honestly all be.

Getting a vbulletin license is 180 bucks and then 60 for each additional year.

This vbulletin software is OLD, and it hasn't been updated, the new software is 3.7, which means he may not have even paid the 60 for this additional year.

You guys have sweated giving him hundreds of dollars via amazon and greekgear, he is turning a healthy profit.

Not to mention, begging for support via an amazon affiliate link is against there Terms of Service and if someone reported this to amazon they would stop giving him any money at all. Everyone knows this, so nice work scammer John.

I believe he is running his own server which means he is paying zero to host this site, and even if he did I believe he is running GoDaddy which is a measly $3 per month to run something like this on linux.

John says he needs this money to further develop greekchat....but develop it into WHAT? A new greekchat facebook, thats not going to happen. A new greekchat social network? thats not going to happen. This is and will always be a forum and NOTHING else. You guys just feed him money so that he can buy an extra golf club or TV at the end of the year.

If he really gave a damn about this, he would take the hundreds of dollars he's taken from you and pay someone to make a new logo for the site because the current one is SO bad.

Literally, John, immorality and deception at its fullest. Thanks alot buddy.

[DSTCHAOS]

And that in no way reflects John. It reflects "ruserious."

Are YOU serious, ruserious? :p

[OTW]

ruserious said:

I literally CANNOT BELIEVE this thread, so much that I had to register on here and tell you all that you are all getting scammed, how dumb can you honestly all be.

Getting a vbulletin license is 180 bucks and then 60 for each additional year.

This vbulletin software is OLD, and it hasn't been updated, the new software is 3.7, which means he may not have even paid the 60 for this additional year.

You guys have sweated giving him hundreds of dollars via amazon and greekgear, he is turning a healthy profit.

Not to mention, begging for support via an amazon affiliate link is against there Terms of Service and if someone reported this to amazon they would stop giving him any money at all. Everyone knows this, so nice work scammer John.

I believe he is running his own server which means he is paying zero to host this site, and even if he did I believe he is running GoDaddy which is a measly $3 per month to run something like this on linux.

John says he needs this money to further develop greekchat....but develop it into WHAT? A new greekchat facebook, thats not going to happen. A new greekchat social network? thats not going to happen. This is and will always be a forum and NOTHING else. You guys just feed him money so that he can buy an extra golf club or TV at the end of the year.

If he really gave a damn about this, he would take the hundreds of dollars he's taken from you and pay someone to make a new logo for the site because the current one is SO bad.

Literally, John, immorality and deception at its fullest. Thanks alot buddy.

It's likely ruserious is a sock puppet of an existing GCer who didn't have the balls to lecture the Administrator.

[Senusret I]

Wow, and didn't have the balls to leave their post up!

[preciousjeni]

It's likely ruserious is a sock puppet of an existing GCer who didn't have the balls to lecture the Administrator.

Given the adequate grammar and structure, there are quite a few regulars that we can check off the list.

[Senusret I]

Given the adequate grammar and structure, there are quite a few regulars that we can check off the list.

You're on a roll!

[preciousjeni]

You're on a roll!
If by that you mean I'm a bitch, then...yep. :D LOL!

[33girl]

Is this "hundreds of dollars" we "gave" John kind of like the "dozens of hot men" that are "naked in my room"?

I mean, I am pretty intranet stoopid but the last I checked, we do not pay extra if we click on a link through here as opposed to Amazon itself or whoever.

and ruserious, it's spelled A LOT. Idiot.

(I have a teensy notion who this might be but I'm not going to call him out, other than to say I think it's a him.)

[SHEETCAKE]

Given the adequate grammar and structure, there are quite a few regulars that we can check off the list.

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i145/realslimnatey/space.jpg

[catiebug]

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i145/realslimnatey/space.jpg

So you're suggesting we hold a bake sale?[/hijack]

[DialMyCalls]

Who could I contact in regards to helping support GreekChat? I've tried emailing the administrator through the control panel a couple times now with no response.

I run a company called DialMyCalls.com ; it's a web-based service that lets you send a voice message to a list of phone numbers instantly. We're free to use up to 25 calls a day, after that there's a nominal cost per call.

It's a great tool and we have many fraternities and sororities using it to keep their members and alumni up to date with what's going on.

Being that we want to keep on growing we'd definitely be willing to donate to GreekChat for any member here that signs up and uses DialMyCalls.

If someone could give me a heads up of who to talk to I can get GreekChat with a special link code to use which will track all signups.

Not sure if this is the right place to post this, but it seemed most appropriate.

Thanks,
Dave

[OTW]

Who could I contact in regards to helping support GreekChat? I've tried emailing the administrator through the control panel a couple times now with no response.

I run a company called DialMyCalls.com ; it's a web-based service that lets you send a voice message to a list of phone numbers instantly. We're free to use up to 25 calls a day, after that there's a nominal cost per call.

It's a great tool and we have many fraternities and sororities using it to keep their members and alumni up to date with what's going on.

Being that we want to keep on growing we'd definitely be willing to donate to GreekChat for any member here that signs up and uses DialMyCalls.

If someone could give me a heads up of who to talk to I can get GreekChat with a special link code to use which will track all signups.

Not sure if this is the right place to post this, but it seemed most appropriate.

Thanks,
Dave

If you haven't already, try emailing him at john@scholarstuff.com -- he may check that email more often than GC PMs.

[Tom Earp]

If you haven't already, try emailing him at john@scholarstuff.com -- he may check that email more often than GC PMs.
Why is this?:rolleyes:

Maybe he is fed up with the BS here?

It seems to supposedly be working so fine with people on here or maybe he is just stepping away from it?:rolleyes:

Can you blame him?:D

PS, he does not answer much does he?

[Tippiechick]

Why is this?:rolleyes:

Maybe he is fed up with the BS here?

It seems to supposedly be working so fine with people on here or maybe he is just stepping away from it?:rolleyes:

Can you blame him?:D

PS, he does not answer much does he?

Tom, I would be more worried about tending to your own "site" than worrying about John. mmmkay.

[Benzgirl]

Eh, Earpus started drinking early today. He will be asleep soon

[catiebug]

Well, it *is* a holiday, after all...

Eh, Earpus started drinking early today. He will be asleep soon