Jericho

[PeppyGPhiB]

Does anyone here watch Jericho? My boyfriend and I have gotten really into it.

[DaffyKD]

Does anyone here watch Jericho? My boyfriend and I have gotten really into it.

Good show. Getting really interesting.

DaffyKD

[jwright25]

Yep. We have watched it from the beginning. I get the constant cliffhanger thing (like Lost), but it kind of annoys me every now and then. I like resolution. The story is great though. I just feel like we haven't gotten anywhere yet. They still don't know what happened. I have to believe that if something like this were to actually take place, we would know what happened by now. I guess I get into my entertainment too much!

[PeppyGPhiB]

I thought we did find out what happened on the first episode of this new season? The one called "The day before" where they went over events for all the characters, but mainly Hawkins and his shady gf, made it look like a small renegade terrorist cell set off the bombs. Hawkins was one of the people in that cell, and that's why he's got "the package" in his house in Jericho now...he couldn't bring himself to trigger his bomb. Now we're waiting to find out who is killing the other cell members, what Hawkins is going to do now with his life and with The Package, and how the town is going to move on and repair itself.

The show has made me wonder what it would be like in my town if something like those events actually happened. If that's what Kansas is like, what would a metropolitan area resemble?

[jwright25]

a small renegade terrorist cell set off the bombs.

You are right - I do remember that one. For some reason it just didn't stick with me as being the whole story. I really don't know why though! I guess it's because WE as viewers know, but the people in Jericho / the US in the show don't know. Outside of Hawkins and the others who were in on the package thing. Last week they believed the "Marines" who said it was Iran and North Korea. I guess I just figured some sort of "government official" would have figured it out and/or figured out how to communicate with everyone out there.

Also - assuming the bombs were radioactive from the mushroom clouds and all the radiation sickness - wouldn't the fallout / nuclear winter be much worse than it is? I seriously don't know anything about nuclear physics, so I'm clueless as to the reality of nuclear bombs going off in the US like that.

Plus - did we ever figure out where the electromagnetic pulse came from that threw off all the electricity, etc? I may have missed that somewhere.

For all my stupid criticism and thinking about the reality of it, I do really like the show. I have ALWAYS thought Skeet was HOTT so staring at him for an hour a week is quite nice!

[PeppyGPhiB]

WWSUD?

What would Skeet Ulrich do?

[AlphaSigOU]

Also - assuming the bombs were radioactive from the mushroom clouds and all the radiation sickness - wouldn't the fallout / nuclear winter be much worse than it is? I seriously don't know anything about nuclear physics, so I'm clueless as to the reality of nuclear bombs going off in the US like that.

Plus - did we ever figure out where the electromagnetic pulse came from that threw off all the electricity, etc? I may have missed that somewhere.

There is a brief scene in an earlier episode depicting some ICBMs launching before the EMP hits. (Though in reality there are no ICBM fields anywhere close to Kansas - you'd hafta go to NE Colorado and the Nebraska panhandle to find 'em, cause those are part of 'Frankie's Rocket Ranch' (aka F.E. Warren AFB, home to the 90th Space Wing.)

All it would take is a nuke of sufficient power detonated high up in the atmosphere to produce an EMP effect that covers the USA.

The nukes were probably small, but enough to do some serious damage and disrupt the US infrastructure. The days of city-busting nukes (such as the 10 megaton behemoth once carried on the Titan II missile) are history. Most missile-launched and bomber-borne nukes are less than 1 megaton (around 200-500 kilotons, as the 'yield' (read: destructive power) can be adjusted.

[PeppyGPhiB]

BUMP because the show keeps getting better and better.

Last night's episode was great! Hawkins is IN charge!

[jon1856]

Sad news for those who may have missed it-CBS spiked the show this week:eek::(:mad:.
While CBS said that the show did have a fan base, the numbers of the show fell at the end of the season. BECAUSE of the long pause between shows!!!!!!

Just have to love TV Net EO's circular logic!!!

[BGKdLady]

Sad news for those who may have missed it-CBS spiked the show this week:eek::(:mad:.
While CBS said that the show did have a fan base, the numbers of the show fell at the end of the season. BECAUSE of the long pause between shows!!!!!!

Just have to love TV Net EO's circular logic!!!


NOOOO! I love Jericho, although I have to admit, it creeped me out a bit sometimes.

[Thrillhouse]

I stopped watching because of the long pause in between shows. Sorry but there is too much competition out there to have a few months off.

[jon1856]

I stopped watching because of the long pause in between shows. Sorry but there is too much competition out there to have a few months off.
I too stopped watching it while it was not on the are. But I waited for its return as I was 1) Still interested in the show and 2) Nothing else in time slot interested me at all. And if it did, there is always the summer to pay catch up

Heros figured away around this problem for next year-30 shows! A "full" season of 24 plus 6 extra shows. Back in the day, a full season was over 30 shows. Just costs too much these days to do that.

[PeppyGPhiB]

Yeah, Boyfriend and I are mad. Jericho was the only show that both of us liked. Mid-season hiatuses are not good for shows...Lost suffered badly because of it this year, too.

There is rumor that another network (think cable) might pick up Jericho. It would do well on cable, where 5-7 million viewers each episode is great.

[DaffyKD]

LOS ANGELES (AP) - "Jericho" fans who slammed CBS with protests over the drama's cancellation have won the battle: It will return next season, the network said Wednesday.

It was an unusual display of viewer might since networks usually put ratings ahead of even the most passionate, well-organized fan base. But CBS said the show deserved another chance, while cautioning that it must prove it has wider appeal.

"Wow! Over the past few weeks you have put forth an impressive and probably unprecedented display of passion in support of a prime time television series," CBS Entertainment President Nina Tassler said in a letter to "Jericho" boosters.

The letter was released to The Associated Press.

"You got our attention; your emails and collective voice have been heard," Tassler wrote, and seven episodes have been ordered for midseason 2007-08. "In success, there is the potential for more. But, for there to be more 'Jericho,' we will need more viewers."

Fans must do their part to rally interest while the network does its job, she said.

CBS is planning a campaign to reintroduce "Jericho," including rerunning the show on CBS this summer, streaming episodes and clips online and releasing the first season on DVD on Sept. 25. The show's return date and scheduling has yet to be determined.

CBS had to complete deals with cast members, including star Skeet Ulrich, before announcing its decision.

Networks rarely reverse a show's axing but CBS has proven its flexibility at least once before. In 1983, after "Cagney & Lacey" was canceled and the network was bombarded with protests, the police drama was brought back in 1984 - and ran successfully to 1988.

Since "Jericho" was canceled last month the network has been deluged with calls, messages and shipments of nuts signifying viewer displeasure.

"We are tired of the networks (not just CBS) tossing aside quality programming," was the message carried by jericholives.com, one of several web sites protesting the cancellation. "Enough! We're going to fight for this one."

Clarke Ingram, a "Jericho" fan from Pittsburgh, Pa., and a spokesman for jericholives, said Tuesday that the drama about a Kansas town isolated by a nuclear terrorist attack deserved renewal for its daring premise, writing and acting.

"People would paint this as teenagers in tinfoil hats" rallying behind the show, said Ingram, 50, an operations manager for two radio stations. "That's not what this is. These are educated professionals."

Several factors worked in the show's favor: It appealed to the young adult viewers sought by advertisers and was one of CBS' most popular shows streamed online, indicating an audience beyond that measured by traditional ratings.

CBS also likely took into consideration the dent a long hiatus put in the show's viewership, the same scheduling misstep that hurt ABC's "Lost" and NBC's "Heroes."

Last fall, "Jericho" was averaging 10.5 million viewers; when it returned in the spring, it drew about 8.1 million, about a 23 percent decline from the first half of the season.

The display of fan enthusiasm included the delivery of 50,000 pounds of peanuts to its New York offices. In the season finale, a character replies "Nuts!" to a demand that the beleaguered town of Jericho surrender.

That's the same response that a U.S. general in World War II made to a German demand for surrender at the Battle of the Bulge.

Another positive outcome of the fan campaign: CBS is donating the protest peanuts to charities, including one that sends care packages to troops overseas.

http://apnews1.iwon.com/article/20070606/D8PJISL80.html

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DaffyKD

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[PeppyGPhiB]

AWESOME!

Nice PR move by CBS in donating all the nuts to charities.

[jon1856]

LOS ANGELES (AP) - "Jericho" fans who slammed CBS with protests over the drama's cancellation have won the battle: It will return next season, the network said Wednesday.

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DaffyKD

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Great news. Just where is the link for this news???
FYI: In providing this GREAT NEWS, you violated TOS as well as copy-write and Fair-use agreements.


Next time, a few lines and a link will work.:)

CBS: 'Jericho' coming back

Story Highlights

• CBS moved to bring back "Jericho"
• Fan says "educated professionals" are rallying behind show
• Show appeals to young audience; online version well-received
• Network donating 50,000 pounds of protest peanuts to charity

LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- "Jericho" fans who slammed CBS with protests over the drama's cancellation have won the battle: It will return next season, the network said Wednesday.
It was an unusual display of viewer might since networks usually put ratings ahead of even the most passionate, well-organized fan base. But CBS said the show deserved another chance, while cautioning that it must prove it has wider appeal.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/06/07/jericho.cancellation.ap/index.html

http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/img/printer_friendly/news_logo.gif
Fan protest saves US show Jericho
Post-apocalypse TV drama Jericho has been saved from cancellation following an internet campaign by its fans.

US TV network CBS axed the show last month, triggering a protest that culminated in shipments of nuts being sent to the broadcaster. "Wow!" said CBS Entertainment President Nina Tassler in a letter to the fans. "You got our attention."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6729411.stm

Resurrection: The fans save 'Jericho'
Sometimes going a little nutty is a good thing.

For weeks, "Jericho" junkies have been firing e-mails (effectively shutting down InBoxes at CBS and this newspaper), signing petitions and sending bags of nuts to CBS headquarters in protest.

The assault seems to have worked, "Jericho" creator and executive producer Carol Barbee said Tuesday. CBS executives are in discussions with the show's producers and actors to resuscitate the show -- killed just last month -- for an eight-episode run in mid-season.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2007/06/its_official_th.html

[jon1856]

It's back NOW-This week!
Friday night, July 6th.
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/jericho/

http://jerichowiki.cbs.com/?t=anon

[AGDee]

Yay! Thanks! I would have missed it..

[jon1856]

This Tuesday night, Feb 12th, CBS 10:00 PM.
BE THERE.
Or is may be Nuts to us.
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/jericho/

[kafromTN]

I watched the episode last night and loved it. Trying to figure out if Chavez [Dawkins' buddy] is a good guy or not [nothing is what it seems in this show]. Anyone else watch it? What are y'all's thoughts on it?

[jon1856]

I watched the episode last night and loved it. Trying to figure out if Chavez [Dawkins' buddy] is a good guy or not [nothing is what it seems in this show]. Anyone else watch it? What are y'all's thoughts on it?
I had the same feelings and thought as well.
Along with another one: The 10th is based in Ft. Drum, NY.
Would that not be on the wrong side?

Very happy to see the gang back.

[kafromTN]

I had the same feelings and thought as well.
Along with another one: The 10th is based in Ft. Drum, NY.
Would that not be on the wrong side?

Very happy to see the gang back.


Well to be fair, I don't get too technical on stuff from the show so I don't know about where the 10th is based...for all we know they could have been doing a training mission in the west at the time of the explosions.

I hate that they were only given 7 episodes, I want a few more seasons so they can continue building up suspense and developing chracters. I think this season is going to be almost too fast paced.

[jon1856]

Well to be fair, I don't get too technical on stuff from the show so I don't know about where the 10th is based...for all we know they could have been doing a training mission in the west at the time of the explosions.

I hate that they were only given 7 episodes, I want a few more seasons so they can continue building up suspense and developing chracters. I think this season is going to be almost too fast paced.
I think that they were trying to address what some people thought of as a rather "slow" season the first year.

[kafromTN]

I think that they were trying to address what some people thought of as a rather "slow" season the first year.


I know that's what they're doing but to me it loses some of its luster being too action packed.

Last night's episode was good, but I think they're trying to pack in too much into these 7 episodes. I hope they get renewed for another season or two so that they can go back to last year's formula...showing the human element and leaving most things vague until the following episode or slowly explaining them. Basically it feels like they are "dumbing down" the current episodes to get a larger demographic, just my opinion.

What's everyone else's thoughts about last night's episodes?

[PeppyGPhiB]

I had to watch both episodes last night on DVR because I had been on vacation. Here are my thoughts on this season so far:

- There was way too much going on in the first episode, and it confused me the way they opened it (with Constantino and Jake in the house together)
- It bugs me that they essentially picked up the story four months after the New Bern War. Why couldn't they have just played out the war and kept going from there? It's annoying to me that we ended the first season with a shortage of food and resources and everything else, and now suddenly they have everything...liquor, flat screen TVs, medical equipment AND chocolate chips? That army division's made up of miracle workers!
- Jake has been way too scatterbrained in the first two episodes. I get that he's mad about his dad, and I buy that he would want revenge, but he's normally intense and quiet about it...this season he's been crazy, aggressive and foolish.
- I found that I had forgotten too much of the story since the last episode aired SO long ago.
- I'm worried they're going to hook Stanley up with that blonde from the firm that has come in and fixed everything in town (loans, etc.)...just a feeling I have.

[jon1856]

I just now watched this weeks ep;WOW.
Reminds me now of the best of B-5 with multi-story arcs and threads.
Great writing.
This is going to be a ride.

[jon1856]

The CBS news interuption and pause only helped the ending.
OMG and WOW!!!!!!!!!:eek::D

[kafromTN]

The episode last night was great, but I hate that it seems they're tying up a lot of loose ends to give closure if they don't get renewed for a 3rd season. I definitely want a 3rd season from them or at least a good movie.

Do you think Beck will help Hawkins and Jake fight against the Cheyene government?

[jon1856]

The episode last night was great, but I hate that it seems they're tying up a lot of loose ends to give closure if they don't get renewed for a 3rd season. I definitely want a 3rd season from them or at least a good movie.

Do you think Beck will help Hawkins and Jake fight against the Cheyenne government?
At first perhaps reluctantly, but Beck will true to himself as we have so far seen him.

[kafromTN]

Tonight was incredible....nothing is sacred to these writers, I have loved the episodes so far. It's sad to think only 2 more episodes left....anyone think CBS will renew? I absolutely think they should.

I've been thinking about it more and there are tons of storylines they could use in season 3...the Cheyenne government being a hold out and a kind of civil war due to propaganda sort of thing.

The preview for next week looks intense.

[jon1856]

Tonight was incredible....nothing is sacred to these writers, I have loved the episodes so far. It's sad to think only 2 more episodes left....anyone think CBS will renew? I absolutely think they should.

I've been thinking about it more and there are tons of story lines they could use in season 3...the Cheyenne government being a hold out and a kind of civil war due to propaganda sort of thing.

The preview for next week looks intense.
When given the green light, the writers (IMVHO) had nothing to lose by throwing the book out.
As for renewal, I have not seen or heard what the numberer's have been like.
Saw only one article that that throw out an aside that ratings were not high.
I too would love to see more of show.

[jon1856]

I just took a look a CBS's Jericho message board.
The are fans that, while watching the show, are doing blow by blow commentary.

[jon1856]

:mad::(
Due to lack of viewers, CBS has pulled the plug on show.
this weeks will be the last one which, per CBS, will offer closure.

[kafromTN]

Well I read those CBS Jericho boards a bit and apparently the producers are shopping it around. Also some areas of Canada get to see it a day early [probably only reason I'd want to be in Canada] and some of those posters have stated it doesn't provide "closure" so much as not being a "cliffhanger".


I want it to stay on, I thoroughly enjoy this show, only one I watch on a regular basis.

[Thrillhouse]

Well I read those CBS Jericho boards a bit and apparently the producers are shopping it around. Also some areas of Canada get to see it a day early [probably only reason I'd want to be in Canada] and some of those posters have stated it doesn't provide "closure" so much as not being a "cliffhanger".


I want it to stay on, I thoroughly enjoy this show, only one I watch on a regular basis.

There are plenty of cable networks that could pick it up for the right price. I hope it stays on.

[jon1856]

Well I read those CBS Jericho boards a bit and apparently the producers are shopping it around. Also some areas of Canada get to see it a day early [probably only reason I'd want to be in Canada] and some of those posters have stated it doesn't provide "closure" so much as not being a "cliffhanger".


I want it to stay on, I thoroughly enjoy this show, only one I watch on a regular basis.
I thought highly of show as well.
IIRC from reading CBS boards, NBC turned it down. I would love to see it on TNT but who knows:confused:
At least CBS cut it loose while there could be time for others to pick it up.
Unlike ABC and VU.:mad::(

[kafromTN]

Wow! That's not closure, that is just not a cliffhanger. There are tons of story arcs that could and should be explored. I hope it gets picked up by some network. Maybe they could film 2-3 seasons at once, pay the bills then if they decide to cancel on tv finish the rest online or sell a dvd of the remaining episodes. I would pay money for this show.

What did y'all think?

[jon1856]

DAMMM!
What a great ep and what a sad way to end what could have been a great run.
In some ways I feel how I felt when ABC spiked VU; a lost of a piece of my entertainment. A product put together by what must have been a great mix of cast, staff and crew. Who are all now out of work.

We can only hope that a major cable company picks show up.
Damm:mad::(

[jon1856]

Wow! That's not closure, that is just not a cliffhanger. There are tons of story arcs that could and should be explored. I hope it gets picked up by some network. Maybe they could film 2-3 seasons at once, pay the bills then if they decide to cancel on tv finish the rest online or sell a dvd of the remaining episodes. I would pay money for this show.

What did y'all think?
I would even take a movie or two.
I am talking big screen.
And then there is this bit from Sci-Fi:
http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=1&id=50950

[PeppyGPhiB]

Jericho would do well on cable, where there aren't the ratings demands of network. I think it would be good for FX, TNT or HBO.

I'd love to watch the American Civil War: Part 2!

[kafromTN]

Yeah, but I would prefer to get it on network TV, I don't have cable and b/c all I do is kill batteries from flipping through the stations since nothing good is ever on.

Also Big brother had a smaller share than Jericho yet it stays on...I hate reality TV.

[jon1856]

Yeah, but I would prefer to get it on network TV, I don't have cable and b/c all I do is kill batteries from flipping through the stations since nothing good is ever on.

Also Big brother had a smaller share than Jericho yet it stays on...I hate reality TV.
Reality shows cost less than 1/2 of a scripted show..

[kafromTN]

Reality shows cost less than 1/2 of a scripted show..

Please don't take this the wrong way, and I do understand that reality shows are cheaper to produce etc., but do you have any numbers? I mean I want to see a side by side comparison and I can't seem to find anything like that.

[jon1856]

Please don't take this the wrong way, and I do understand that reality shows are cheaper to produce etc., but do you have any numbers? I mean I want to see a side by side comparison and I can't seem to find anything like that.
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200705/reality-tv
http://www.zap2it.com/tv/news/zap-nbcprimetimenoscripted8pmshows,0,90339.story?coll= zap-tv-headlines
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A53032-2004Aug9.html
http://www.medialifemagazine.com/news2001/june01/june25/4_thurs/news1thursday.html
http://articles.latimes.com/2004/08/02/calendar/et-collins2
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/01/25/entertainment/main537964.shtml
http://www.videojug.com/expertanswer/reality-show-storytelling-2/what-is-a-soft-scripted-show-versus-an-unscripted-show.............................................. .................................................. ........................................

[jon1856]

Quiet tip of the
hat to CBS's 'Jericho'

Disappointing end for fan-revived disaster drama

By Toni Fitzgerald
Mar 26, 2008


It was a subdued farewell for “Jericho” last night. Ten months after CBS revived the post-apocalypse drama following a campaign by rabid fans, the show drew its second-lowest rating of the season for its series finale.
CBS canceled the show last week because of disappointing ratings for season two.
“Jericho” averaged a 1.9 adults 18-49 rating, according to Nielsen overnights, off 5 percent from the previous week’s 2.0 and down 27 percent from a 2.6 for the second-season premiere last month.
“Jericho” nearly matched a season-low 1.8 rating, set earlier this month, but at least fans got a little closure this time when the show left the air.
http://www.medialifemagazine.com/artman2/publish/Overnights_50/Quiet_tip_of_the_hat_to_CBS_s_Jericho.asp
http://www.medialifemagazine.com/artman2/publish/Television_44/Bombs_away_CBS_re-cancels_Jericho.asp

[jon1856]

Found something about Jericho within this story:
How NBC and DirecTV Kept ‘Friday Night Lights’ Alive

http://tvdecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/07/how-nbc-and-directv-kept-friday-night-lights-alive/

"Television executives say this model could help keep other sentimental favorites on the air. For instance, CBS (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/business/companies/cbs_corporation/index.html?inline=nyt-org) Paramount Network Television has held talks with Comcast (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/business/companies/comcast_corporation/index.html?inline=nyt-org), the cable provider, about finding new life for “Jericho,” the low-rated drama canceled by CBS last month, according to two people briefed on the talks who requested anonymity."

[kafromTN]

That would be great. I'll reiterate, I hate reality tv shows and game shows.