What happened to my thread about fraternities?

[Akkus]

I thought that thread had a lot of questions and answers about fraternities and it was very helpful for me and probably other ones who were thinking of joining fraternities. I don't know why that thread got deleted though. :confused: I don't remember seeing anything offensive or illegal in that thread. :confused:

Why is it that when there are 1000s of threads about sororities and I open 1 thread about fraternities my thread gets deleted?

[Drolefille]

I thought that thread had a lot of questions and answers about fraternities and it was very helpful for me and probably other ones who were thinking of joining fraternities. I don't know why that thread got deleted though. :confused: I don't remember seeing anything offensive or illegal in that thread. :confused:

Why is it that when there are 1000s of threads about sororities and I open 1 thread about fraternities my thread gets deleted?
Not sure there, but lets go ahead and continue it here. It's possible that when you weren't looking someone posted some crap in it.

By the way, we're totally cool with you asking fraternity questions, the only difficult part is that there isn't a universal standard for fraternity recruitment (like formal recruitment for NPC sororities) but people will give you the best advice they can. AND use judgement in what you believe.

[Akkus]

I totally agree with you. I just wish there was one big thread about fraternities where all the questions and answers are combined together so whenever someone had a question he could ask it in that thread and also read the other answers as well. Then we wouldn't need to open a number of new threads for new questions. :)

[Elephant Walk]

They'll delete 90% of the things you write, offensive or not.

[AlphaFrog]

They'll delete 90% of the things you write, offensive or not.


That would be a collective YOU meaning you the fratties. He's not included in the fratties.

[Drolefille]

Well, rename this one Fraternity Rush and if we make it worthwhile we could get a sticky.

[gtdxeric]

I'm actually of the opinion that this forum could use a "Fraternity Rush" subforum, as the few fraternity-oriented threads seem to get pushed out very quickly by the overwhelming quantity of sorority discussions.

[AlphaFrog]

I'm actually of the opinion that this forum could use a "Fraternity Rush" subforum, as the few fraternity-oriented threads seem to get pushed out very quickly by the overwhelming quantity of sorority discussions.

I think you might get a thread sticky...but there wouldn't be enough activity to warrant an actual sub-forum.

[Akkus]

Can anyone explain the difference between formal recruitment and informal recruitment once more? I think sororities usually use formal recruitment while fraternities use informal recruitment.

[Drolefille]

Can anyone explain the difference between formal recruitment and informal recruitment once more? I think sororities usually use formal recruitment while fraternities use informal recruitment.
Formal recruitment is extremely structured with parties lasting a certain length of time and each PNM visiting a specific house at a specific time. There's then a structured method of winnowing down PNMs and houses until you reach bid day.

Informal recruitment is "hey come with us to Hooters/ski trip/movie night etc." and then you hit a point where you specifically are invited back and voted on and potentially extended a bid.

[shinerbock]

Also, at some schools, there is no bid day. Some southern schools have almost their entire pledge classes before formal rush even starts.

[Drolefille]

Forgot to mention: you're right, sororities (NPC) use formal recruitment once a year, but some may use informal recruitment throughout the year to get even more girls.

Fraternities use informal, sometimes as informally as shinerbocks above and some do it strictly during the 2 or 3 weeks of fraternity rush.

[shinerbock]

I imagine however if you're rushing in california, you'll have some sort of bid night. I can't imagine a state school in california would have such an informal rush.

[Akkus]

Thanks for the helpful information. How about advantages and disadvantages of both styles of recruitment? Which one is more rushee-friendly?

[Akkus]

I imagine however if you're rushing in california, you'll have some sort of bid night. I can't imagine a state school in california would have such an informal rush.


here is what the website says, so i think they are not very formal:

The Interfraternity Council conducts membership recruitment in the first month of each semester. Typically there is an orientation event, and chapters then sponsor their own recruitment activities over a 5-6 day period. No registration fee is required, and it is up to the student to select which events to attend. On the second day, fraternities can start giving out "bids," which are invitations to join. Students are encouraged to visit as many chapters as practical during the recruitment period to discover the group that best meets their needs. Although most men join during the IFC-designated recruitment period, chapters are permitted to extend bids for the duration of the semester.

[shinerbock]

That doesn't sound too bad at all. I think informal rushing is the best for both rushees and brothers. Here are a couple reasons...

1) Informal rush is more laid back, and often less hectic. Brothers usually just hang out with you, rather than feeling like they have to meet every rushee in a certain period of time so that they can vote on you.

2)Similar to above, it is much easier to get to know a guy at a ballgame, a band party, at the beach, etc...You can't really tell who a guy is when he's in coat and tie and nervous. Its much easier when you're hanging out drinking beer.

3) Informal rushing allows rushees to consider more fraternities, and for fraternities to give out more bids. Some schools treat fraternities almost like sororities. They try and match the two up, rather than letting fraternities bid anyone and everyone they want. The way we rushed was to have events all over the southeast throughout the summer, and give bids whenever we found somebody we liked. I don't think you'll have a problem with this, since they can bid that entire week, but you'll have to move faster. In really relaxed rush systems, you can get a bid in July and hold until school starts if you want.

[Akkus]

That's very cool. Thanks again!

[AGDem]

A word of caution, in the age limit thread you said you were planning to rush all 16 fraternities. While I understand that you want to check out every fraternity and see what each has to offer, this can be overwhelming and extremely time consuming. My school has 14 fraternities, and I don't really know of any guys who rushed more than maybe three or so, but that's not to say that there aren't guys who have done this. But all school are different. Also, rush events tend to overlap from fraternity to fraternity, since each org. is in charge of their own recruitment. I would recomend doing a little bit of preliminary work and finding out a bit about each chapter,Find out what reputations each group has and determine whether or not those are the kinds of guys you want to hang out with. Then cut a few from your list, you don't have to cut that many, but just ask yourself, how many events do you think it would be possible for you to attend?

[Akkus]

A word of caution, in the age limit thread you said you were planning to rush all 16 fraternities. While I understand that you want to check out every fraternity and see what each has to offer, this can be overwhelming and extremely time consuming. My school has 14 fraternities, and I don't really know of any guys who rushed more than maybe three or so, but that's not to say that there aren't guys who have done this. But all school are different. Also, rush events tend to overlap from fraternity to fraternity, since each org. is in charge of their own recruitment. I would recomend doing a little bit of preliminary work and finding out a bit about each chapter,Find out what reputations each group has and determine whether or not those are the kinds of guys you want to hang out with. Then cut a few from your list, you don't have to cut that many, but just ask yourself, how many events do you think it would be possible for you to attend?

You are right but what if I rush to, lets say 5, fraternities and don't get a bid? Maybe the 6th fraternity was going to offer me a bid. :) I want to try my chances at as many places as possible so that I can get myself a bid from somewhere. :)

[kddani]

You are right but what if I rush to, lets say 5, fraternities and don't get a bid? Maybe the 6th fraternity was going to offer me a bid. :) I want to try my chances at as many places as possible so that I can get myself a bid from somewhere. :)

This makes you sound like you just want to join any fraternity that will have you? :confused:

[Akkus]

This makes you sound like you just want to join any fraternity that will have you? :confused:


People say it's very hard to get a bid when you are 22 years old and a junior at college so I'll have to settle with whoever recruits me. Who knows maybe i'll end up at a good place, or maybe not. We'll see. :)

[shinerbock]

Well, she is right to a degree. You don't wanna rush everywhere, it is a time waster and makes you look pathetic. If we have kids who are really house hopping, they usually are kinda...how do I say this...like flounder from animal house. Basically, they're way too excited to be rushing. Just save yourself the time and find out what houses to avoid beforehand. Now some on here will tell you not to count anybody out, etc, but thats just up to you. Personally, I would not wanna rush one of the fraternities with the worst campus reputation, but decide for yourself. That being said, I also don't think its wrong to have a "I'll go where they bid me" mentality. Now I don't know if I could do that at your school, but at mine the fraternities were all pretty good (based on what I like in a fraternity). Thus, I would have decided that a middle tier fraternity was better than being a GDI. So just scope out the scene and decide for yourself.

[Akkus]

Maybe I'll get a bid from one of the best places who knows. :)

[AGDem]

I have to reiterate what shinerbock said, it's usually best to find out what some of the house's reputations are before you go. If a house has a terrible reputation, chances are that you don't want to be a part of their fraternity. Rushing a fraternity where you don't feel like you fit in is usually just wasting time. If you don't feel like you fit in, chances are they feel the same way and won't extend a bid to you. Thusly, if you find out what fraternities you want to avoid before hand, you'll save youself a lot of time.

If you still decide to rush every fraternity on campus, you will find there are some chapters you just don't mesh with, no one can fit in with every fraternity on campus. If you don't feel comfortable somewhere, don't waste your time. Cross them off your list. Do you really want to hang out with guys that are completely different from you and feel like an outsider? You shouldn't just be thinking, "Will these guys give me a bid?" You also have to ask yourself, "Do I fee comfortable around these guys? Are these the kind of guys I would like to call my brothers?" These are the same questions the fraternites will be asking themselves.

[Akkus]

I understand. Maybe I should visit every house once and then take notes about them and eliminate some of them before visiting houses for the second time. I also would like to eliminate those houses who haze harshly.

[shinerbock]

There goes all the cool houses.

[sdbeta1]

I'd say check out DU, LXA, Phi Psi, Sig Ep, Sig Pi and Theta Chi.

[Akkus]

There goes all the cool houses.


:confused: I thought they didn't haze harsly in most californian fraternities :confused:

[Akkus]

I'd say check out DU, LXA, Phi Psi, Sig Ep, Sig Pi and Theta Chi.

Thanks.

[shinerbock]

I wouldnt know. However, in my experience, the houses which make a big deal out of not hazing, generally suck. But like I said, I don't know how it is in CA.

[AGDem]

I understand. Maybe I should visit every house once and then take notes about them and eliminate some of them before visiting houses for the second time. I also would like to eliminate those houses who haze harshly.

On the other hand, what is good about checking out all the houses is that you're keeping your options open. I had a friend who went through fraternity rush this past spring, he rushed several fraternities and had his heart set on one of the lower-tiered fraternities. He was extended a bid from another, middle-tiered fraternity, but turned it down in hopes he would get a bid from his top choice and never got one, and thusly was fraternity-less.

[Akkus]

I wouldnt know. However, in my experience, the houses which make a big deal out of not hazing, generally suck. But like I said, I don't know how it is in CA.


But what do you exactly mean by hazing? I am fine with anything as long as it doesn't harm me physically. I don't mind wearing weird clothes, cleaning bathroom....etc.

[shinerbock]

Listen, despite what people on here would have you believe, most hazing doesnt involve you getting hit. It may involve you working hard, breaking a sweat doing yard work, etc...The most physical things our pledges did was conditioning for football. I mean, its tough, but it has a point.

[Akkus]

Listen, despite what people on here would have you believe, most hazing doesnt involve you getting hit. It may involve you working hard, breaking a sweat doing yard work, etc...The most physical things our pledges did was conditioning for football. I mean, its tough, but it has a point.


I'm fine with all that. There are a lot of stories about hazing but most of those stories don't have a basis i think.

[sdbeta1]

Other types of hazing would depend on how much drinking you want and are willing to do. From my experience at San Diego, the hazing meant drinking a lot having to wake up early to clean the brothers beach houses, getting smoked out, and taking care of personal favors from the brothers. There are houses that make a big deal out of hazing, and there are others who won't tolerate hazing but it doesn't mean that they suck. Most likely, there was an event in the past that forced the issue and strong anti-hazing sentiment

[shinerbock]

I have never seen the whole "you have to drink this much" thing. I think most situations like that are fun, and you're just chugging beer or something. Its not like you having to stop means getting kicked out or being punished. Most likely it'll result in brothers going "ohhhhhh, we've got a lightweight!" Personal favors are very true, and its fine. Thats pledgeship, lots of tasks and errands. My reason for saying the anti-hazing houses suck, is because they have in my experience. Now there is a difference between houses who make light of hazing "oh its really not bad, we have a national policy," and the houses who make it their main issue "we here at _____ feel hazing degrades the pledge and we never do it." The latter tend to be fraternities desperate for pledges, and the kind who long for strict anti-hazing don't tend to be the guys I'd want. If a guy's number one concern is joining a group that doesnt haze at all, I wouldnt want them in my fraternity. Plus, the guy my fraternity preferred were the ones who knew what they were getting into, new the traditional nature of fraternities, and desired to be a part of that. Guys who are like that generally know what happens during pledgeship to a degree and want to go through it, and those are the guys I would want.

[Akkus]

Other types of hazing would depend on how much drinking you want and are willing to do. From my experience at San Diego, the hazing meant drinking a lot having to wake up early to clean the brothers beach houses, getting smoked out, and taking care of personal favors from the brothers. There are houses that make a big deal out of hazing, and there are others who won't tolerate hazing but it doesn't mean that they suck. Most likely, there was an event in the past that forced the issue and strong anti-hazing sentiment


Oh cool. How long does it take? I mean for how long would i need to clean the brothers beach houses? Like everyday for a week or so?

[sdbeta1]

The mornings after any big parties, usually on the weekends until you get initiated. The whole drinking scene I was describing was more like being given a handle or expecting a pledge to drink when you tell him to. There are houses who assure new members that they will not be hazed, i.e., being beaten, forced to drink large amounts of alcohol, or partake in degrading activities.

[Akkus]

I bet a lot of rushees end up having no bids.

[AGDem]

That depends on several factors, such as how many guys are rushing, how many bids fraternities are willing to give out, and how well certain guys fit in with each fraternity.

Don't sweat it, the best advice anyone can give a rushee is to just be yourself. Try not to worry about getting a bid until rush is over. As long as you talk to the guys and be yourself, you'll have a decent chance. Don't go out of your way to buy fancy clothes or change your hairstyle or put on an act to impress the guys. Believe me, the guys will be able to see through whatever facade you try to put on. Just be yourself, that's the key.

[SoCalGirl]

People say it's very hard to get a bid when you are 22 years old and a junior at college so I'll have to settle with whoever recruits me. Who knows maybe i'll end up at a good place, or maybe not. We'll see. :)

I don't think at State you'll have an issue. I went to UCSD and a pledge over 21 was not rare. I remember meeting a brother from a USD chapter (I think it was Delt) that was in his late 20s / early 30s.

I think it's great your asking questions but I really think you're over analyzing State rush. When they have Rush Orientation visit all the tables and go with your gut feeling. Not every chapter will be worth it for you to actually visit. It's all a personal fit sort of thing. Don't let the fratties on here freak you out. I'm sure their advice is solid for Southern schools, maybe even for USC. But for San Diego? It's probably too "traditional".

[sdbeta1]

I don't think at State you'll have an issue. I went to UCSD and a pledge over 21 was not rare. I remember meeting a brother from a USD chapter (I think it was Delt) that was in his late 20s / early 30s.


I know exactly who you are talking about and he is a Delt, I thought he was at least 30. However, at the time they were struggling for members. They didn't do too well that year because not many freshman wanted to join the smallest chapter on campus. By the time I graduated, they had become one of the largest.

[SoCalGirl]

I remember he seemed like a cool guy. But I was an advisor at an exchange and he was older than me and the other advisor. We thought that was strange. I kept wanting to shoo my girls away from him because it just felt wrong somehow. :o

[Akkus]

I don't think at State you'll have an issue. I went to UCSD and a pledge over 21 was not rare. I remember meeting a brother from a USD chapter (I think it was Delt) that was in his late 20s / early 30s.

I think it's great your asking questions but I really think you're over analyzing State rush. When they have Rush Orientation visit all the tables and go with your gut feeling. Not every chapter will be worth it for you to actually visit. It's all a personal fit sort of thing. Don't let the fratties on here freak you out. I'm sure their advice is solid for Southern schools, maybe even for USC. But for San Diego? It's probably too "traditional".

Hey you are right I am asking so many questions because I am very new to this "greek" thing and also i am trying to make this thread full of information about fraternities so that others will find useful info here as well. :)

[sdbeta1]

That is exactly the reason why it is harder for non-trads to get a bid, but usually there is a chapter or two doing open bidding.

[Akkus]

That is exactly the reason why it is harder for non-trads to get a bid, but usually there is a chapter or two doing open bidding.


What do you mean by "non-trads" ?

[Drolefille]

Non traditional students.

Not an 18 year old coming straight out of high school into college.

Even community college students who transfer can fall into the "traditional" category depending on the school. Non-trads can be 25 year old who served in the military first or 30 year olds who started a family or a trade and then went back to school...

[Akkus]

Oh I am a non-trad then. :)

[sdbeta1]

I would still consider you traditional, a 22-24 year old transfer student.

[Akkus]

Cool. I think I might stay at SDSU for more than 2 years even though i'll be junior at the time of transfer because I'll take extra classes and maybe have a minor or something.

[AGDem]

That would probably be a good thing to mention while rushing, it may help.

[sdbeta1]

You should start a thread in recruitment stories, it's the craze these days, all the kids are doing it.

[Akkus]

The truth is, I will be rushing not this fall but the next fall. I mean Fall 2007. That's when i will be junior, 22 years old and in San Diego. Currently i am at san francisco state university.

[sdbeta1]

That is a long time to wait for transferring. It seems a bit odd that you are so worried about rushing a fraternity and it is over a year away.

[Akkus]

That is a long time to wait for transferring. It seems a bit odd that you are so worried about rushing a fraternity and it is over a year away.


I just want to know everything in advance. I also want to build this thread up as well. :D

[kddani]

I also want to build this thread up as well. :D

What do you mean by build up?

[Drolefille]

He'd like to see a good fraternity advice thread

[sdbeta1]

I just want to know everything in advance.

So you want to know everyone's ritual as well?

[Akkus]

What do you mean by build up?


This thread is slowly becoming a FAQ thread about fraternities. I think that's cool because when we have many many sorority threads we should have one main fraternity thread.

[TSteven]

Currently i am at san francisco state university.

Have you thought about rush at SF State?

SFSU Greek Organizations (http://www.sfsu.edu/~ospld/html/organization/alphabetical.htm#greek)

[Akkus]

Have you thought about rush at SF State?

SFSU Greek Organizations (http://www.sfsu.edu/~ospld/html/organization/alphabetical.htm#greek)


I never thought of rushing at SFSU to be honest.

[kddani]

He'd like to see a good fraternity advice thread

I love how you guys answer for everyone else all the time and don't let them speak for themselves. Can you read thoughts? If not, how do you know? I asked what HE meant, not what the peanut gallery thought he meant.

[Akkus]

He'd like to see a good fraternity advice thread


exactly :)

[sdbeta1]

so...what happened to your thread about fraternities?

[Kevin]

It's impossible to advise Akkus on how to go through rush. It's different at every single school. While NPC groups have essentially standardized things from school to school, NIC groups through their local IFCs (Interfraternity Councils) legislate rules for each campus. You'll find that rush varies greatly from one campus to the next.

Akkus, the best I can tell you at this late hour is to contact your campus' greek life office -- sometimes, that's a subdepartment of campus life, and get whatever information they offer. If you know some upper classmen, get their input on reputations for different houses because telling lies to sign pledges up is something often done -- even on large campuses and by larger houses.

All I can say is that you should educate yourself, then figure out where you'll best fit in. As far as any further info goes, you're going to have to give up a little more than you have.

[Akkus]

That thread got deleted and i don't know the reason. :confused:

[sdbeta1]

Akkus, the best I can tell you at this late hour is to contact your campus' greek life office -- sometimes, that's a subdepartment of campus life, and get whatever information they offer.

Great advice but he's not rushing until Fall '07.

[Kevin]

Great advice but he's not rushing until Fall '07.

Oh. In that case, please enjoy high school, get into a decent college, and come back in 1 year.

[sdbeta1]

Oh. In that case, please enjoy high school, get into a decent college, and come back in 1 year.

Once again, I have to say that is great advice except the fact he's already in college.

[Kevin]

Once again, I have to say that is great advice except the fact he's already in college.

I need to start reading more than the first and last pages of threads.

Thanks for that.

[AlphaFrog]

I need to start reading more than the first and last pages of threads.

Thanks for that.

:)

I get what you're saying. You really CAN'T have a thread about "General Advice for Fraternity Rush". There aren't many (if any) universal rules for IFC rush like there are for NPC rush. I noticed even on my own campus that there isn't even universal rules between groups (besides the few that IFC establishes....after that it's kind of anything goes).

Also, guys tend to be less likely to reach out for help on something like rush then girls are.

The only thing I can think of to tell any guy who's rushing is just to be yourself and find a group that fits who you are, instead of what you think you want to be.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by kddani
I love how you guys answer for everyone else all the time and don't let them speak for themselves. Can you read thoughts? If not, how do you know? I asked what HE meant, not what the peanut gallery thought he meant.

I'm sorry you missed the comment and I was updating you on what he previously said. And clearly I was correct.

:)

[Kevin]

:)
The only thing I can think of to tell any guy who's rushing is just to be yourself and find a group that fits who you are, instead of what you think you want to be.

I would disagree with that -- if you want to join a house because you think it'll make you a better person than you are, do that.

Go to a place where you feel comfortable, or else, go to a place where you can get the type of fraternal experience you're looking for. You're right about IFC rules though -- in most cases, even if they exist, they're completely ignored by almost everyone.

[Tom Earp]

:)

I get what you're saying. You really CAN'T have a thread about "General Advice for Fraternity Rush". There aren't many (if any) universal rules for IFC rush like there are for NPC rush. I noticed even on my own campus that there isn't even universal rules between groups (besides the few that IFC establishes....after that it's kind of anything goes).

Also, guys tend to be less likely to reach out for help on something like rush then girls are.

The only thing I can think of to tell any guy who's rushing is just to be yourself and find a group that fits who you are, instead of what you think you want to be.


This is an interesting post.

NIC does it a little different maybe not so such in "The Ole South", but I do not know for sure.

But according to a source I trust, the rules of enagagment of Sororitys may be changing also becuse of the structure as such. A lot is depending on the schools them selves and the structure.


Young people today do not need to be run like cattle or sheep, they feel that they want to think on their own or so then seem to think.
They have to be sold on the idea of becoming a Greek and what it may do for them in today's economy and The future.

So, what benefits do they get out of being a Greek. Much more than they can realize.

[Akkus]

I was thinking maybe I can rush at SFSU the next semester, not to join a fraternity, but to see how rushing works, so i will have more experience next year. :)

[Akkus]

Oh i have a new question now. :) Lets say I rushed at SFSU and joined a fraternity i like, and lets say i transferred to SDSU the next semester. Can i automatically transfer to the same fraternity at SDSU if it has a chapter there?

[Akkus]

Nevermind. I just checked names of every fraternity both schools have and i couldn't find any common names. Does that mean these two schools don't have any fraternities that are common?

[Drolefille]

If the same fraternity had a chapter, then almost certainly. There's probably a vote involved, but I doubt you'd get voted down. You'd still be an alumni of the first fraternity

If there aren't any common names then those schools don't have any fraternities in common.

[AGDem]

Looking at the SFSU greek life page, almost all the fraternities are either MCGLOs, NPHC, or LGLOs. Those aren't the kind of fraternities that you seem to want to join, so I'd just say hold off until you get to SDSU. The only NIC I saw that SFSU had was Pi Kappa Phi, and according to the SDSU greek life site, there's no Pi Kap chapter there.

[Akkus]

Looking at the SFSU greek life page, almost all the fraternities are either MCGLOs, NPHC, or LGLOs. Those aren't the kind of fraternities that you seem to want to join, so I'd just say hold off until you get to SDSU. The only NIC I saw that SFSU had was Pi Kappa Phi, and according to the SDSU greek life site, there's no Pi Kap chapter there.


You are right. Asians, Latins and African Americans make half of school population at SFSU. I might still try to rush just to have some experience about rushing though. :)

[USCdude]

Hey all… I’ll be a freshman at USC this fall (actually, in about a week!) and I’d like to join a fraternity.

Is anyone on this board familiar with the rush process at USC? Is rush as stressful and intense for USC guys as it apparently is for USC girls? Do most guys who want to pledge get a bid?

I guess I just really don’t know what to expect… any input or advice would be great.

[USCdude]

Or if that's too vague...

I'd like to get an idea of each fraternity's reputation before rush, and I'm sure I'll be able to do that to an extent on campus, but since rush starts only a week after I arrive on campus... It'd be really helpful if someone on this board who knows about the fraternities at USC could help.... like, you know, which ones are known as the jock fraternities, which one the nerds, which one the hard partiers, etc...

Thanks so much!

[33girl]

Or if that's too vague...

I'd like to get an idea of each fraternity's reputation before rush, and I'm sure I'll be able to do that to an extent on campus, but since rush starts only a week after I arrive on campus... It'd be really helpful if someone on this board who knows about the fraternities at USC could help.... like, you know, which ones are known as the jock fraternities, which one the nerds, which one the hard partiers, etc...

Thanks so much!

I doubt very much you'll get any assistance with that from anyone here. Most people on GC do not like to further stereotypes that are associated with individual chapters or whole fraternities.

[USCdude]

ahhhh, oh well…. There are just so many, and it seems like it will be so hard to get an impression of each during that very brief time period from the beginning of school until the end of rush (less than 2 weeks)….

well, if anyone is willing to share their impressions, but doesn’t want to publish it on the board, feel free to PM me…

[Akkus]

ahhhh, oh well…. There are just so many, and it seems like it will be so hard to get an impression of each during that very brief time period from the beginning of school until the end of rush (less than 2 weeks)….

well, if anyone is willing to share their impressions, but doesn’t want to publish it on the board, feel free to PM me…

maybe if you go to Recruitment Stories Forum (http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/forumdisplay.php?f=209) and open a new thread about your rush you may be able to attract good advices in that thread. People like rush stories.

[33girl]

maybe if you go to Recruitment Stories Forum (http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/forumdisplay.php?f=209) and open a new thread about your rush you may be able to attract good advices in that thread. People like rush stories.

No he won't.

The Rush Stories forum is for rush stories, not to further stereotypes.

[AlphaFrog]

maybe if you go to Recruitment Stories Forum (http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/forumdisplay.php?f=209) and open a new thread about your rush you may be able to attract good advices in that thread. People like rush stories.


Maybe you should refrain from giving further Greek Life advice until you're...oh, GREEK.:rolleyes:

[tunatartare]

Maybe you should refrain from giving further Greek Life advice until you're...oh, GREEK.:rolleyes:
Does this remind you of any other posters on this site?

[AlphaFrog]

Does this remind you of any other posters on this site?


No. I don't know of anyone else who would do that. Especially when it comes to NPC rush. And not when they themselves have had 354 failed attempts.

[tunatartare]

and then try to AI while still in college

[AlphaFrog]

and then try to AI while still in college


Hey, AI is ALWAYS an option. GC said so.

[tunatartare]

even if you're a first semester freshman with a 1.5 who didn't get a bid anywhere

[Akkus]

Maybe you should refrain from giving further Greek Life advice until you're...oh, GREEK.:rolleyes:


I didn't give advice about GREEK LIFE, i gave advice about the FORUM which i am member of. :rolleyes:

[AlphaFrog]

I didn't give advice about GREEK LIFE, i gave advice about the FORUM which i am member of. :rolleyes:

Horrible advice. Hon, let's just put it this way...I've been around for awhile, and I know what flies here. You have been around for two weeks. Member or not, please stop giving advice for awhile.

[Akkus]

Horrible advice. Hon, let's just put it this way...I've been around for awhile, and I know what flies here. You have been around for two weeks. Member or not, please stop giving advice for awhile.


Is that an advice also. :D

[Akkus]

My school does the rushing between september 18th and september 21st. Will 3 days be enough to visit and see all the fraternities in the campus? There are 16.

[TSteven]

My school does the rushing between september 18th and september 21st. Will 3 days be enough to visit and see all the fraternities in the campus? There are 16.

Yes.

[SoCalGirl]

Akkus, why didn't you transfer to SDSU this year? Why wait for next year?

[Akkus]

Akkus, why didn't you transfer to SDSU this year? Why wait for next year?


I was going to transfer this spring but SDSU only accepts transfers for the fall semesters. This fall is too early for me though so I chose the next fall.

[TSteven]

I was going to transfer this spring but SDSU only accepts transfers for the fall semesters. This fall is too early for me though so I chose the next fall.

Well then. You have a year to research what you need to know regarding rush at San Diego State. To help you get started, here are some informative links specific to SDSU rush.

San Diego State University Center for Fraternity and Sorority Life (http://www.greeklife.sdsu.edu/index.html)

Contact Information
Center for Fraternity and Sorority Life
San Diego State University
5500 Campanile Drive, MC-7445
San Diego, CA 92182-7445

Office Location: Centers for Student Involvement, Student Services West, Room 1602
Phone: (619) 594-4745
E-mail: greeklife@sdsu.edu

For Prospective Members and Parents

Information Request
(http://www.greeklife.sdsu.edu/request.html)
"Whether you are currently a student or are planning to attend SDSU, you don't want to miss an opportunity to become involved with the SDSU Greek community. Contact us to receive more details!"

Greek Life Q & A (FAQ) (http://www.sa.sdsu.edu/cfsl/faq.html)

How to Join (http://www.greeklife.sdsu.edu/join.html)

Interfraternity Council
(IFC) Recruitment Process
(General Fraternities)

"The Interfraternity Council conducts membership recruitment in the first month of each semester. Typically there is an orientation event, and chapters then sponsor their own recruitment activities over a 5-6 day period. No registration fee is required, and it is up to the student to select which events to attend. On the second day, fraternities can start giving out "bids," which are invitations to join. Students are encouraged to visit as many chapters as practical during the recruitment period to discover the group that best meets their needs. Although most men join during the IFC-designated recruitment period, chapters are permitted to extend bids for the duration of the semester."

[sdbeta1]

I don't think Akkus is real.

[Unregistered-]

I don't think Akkus is real.

I said it before and I'll say it again.

Akkus backwards = sukkA.

[Akkus]

I don't think Akkus is real.


What do you mean I'm not real? :rolleyes:

[Tom Earp]

What do you mean I'm not real? :rolleyes:


Place in a mind set for Ignore.

One or two will come on this Sub Forum who will try to stir things up.

It is evident to see who they are is it not?

Post as you see fit and ask questions with out some interference by some who wish to be disruptive especially some who are no members of any GLO.

I am not sure, but this was a Fraternity Recruitment Sub Forum?:) :confused: :rolleyes:

[greekalum]

I am not sure, but this was a Fraternity Recruitment Sub Forum?:) :confused: :rolleyes:


Akkus is interested in Fraternity Recruitment and, Tom, you are on record supporting everyone's search for a greek home- you should be helping him!

[TSteven]

Akkus is interested in Fraternity Recruitment and, Tom, you are on record supporting everyone's search for a greek home- you should be helping him!

With all due respect, my understanding is that Tom *is* supporting Akkus' search. As I translate Tom's message, it appears that Tom was addressing Akkus' post asking why his (Akkus) validity was in question. It seems to me that Tom was letting Akkus know that he (Akkus) should ignore those who come to the Fraternity Recruitment Sub Forum and "try to stir things up".

[greekalum]

Man, Earp is hard to follow. You may be right.

[Drolefille]

I do believe that TSteven is right. Someone could make a killing on a Earp-English Dictionary...

[rho4life]

I do believe that TSteven is right. Someone could make a killing on a Earp-English Dictionary...


that made me LOL.:D

[Tom Earp]

TSeven is correct to the Nth degree.


I still understand what I posted as do some others!:D

The Mind is the greatest function of the Human Body!:)

As a non greek posted, maybe it is spelled what was said backwards, but it is someone asking a question and until that is proven wrong then let it go.

I would prefer to try to help someone than belittle them!!!!!!!!

"IF" proved a troll then let is go until then!:p

[Jestor]

People say it's very hard to get a bid when you are 22 years old and a junior at college so I'll have to settle with whoever recruits me. Who knows maybe i'll end up at a good place, or maybe not. We'll see. :)

I'd like to interject here that age isn't necessarily a barrier, particularly for fraternities.

For example, I rushed when I was 26 and an upperclassman and got bids from two fraternities at one university.

I ended up depledging due to the fact of transferring schools and there not being a chapter at the new university.

At my new school, I was pretty heavily recruited by all but one of the fraternities (though granted, this is a campus that had only four, now three fraternities) and got a bid from the fraternity which had the best mutual fit.

So now I'm a proud member of Delta Sigma Phi, Epsilon Iota chapter. :)

You really do need to keep in mind that it's all about mutual fit and go in with the proper attitude. At my first school, there were fraternities that I knew for one reason or another wouldn't work out for one reason or another and I can honestly say I'd have been miserable in those places.

[Tom Earp]

Key words to live by when it comes to joing Organizations,

Mutual Fit and respect from both sides, Those in and those who want to join.