Department Stores Shutting Petite Section

[Taualumna]

According to this NYTimes (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/28/business/28petite.html?adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1148846424-+zeTElXpJq6ZZUklwdYf6g) article, many department stores are getting rid of/scaling back their petite section because people aren't shopping there. And they did this all very quietly. How could this have happened? Do retailers really think that petites don't buy petite sizes (if that's the case, then Banana Republic would not have opened petite-only stores. It's the STYLE, everyone!) Something like this would never have happened if this was the plus-sized department.

I have created a petition (http://www.petitiononline.com/shortgal/petition.html) (this can also be found in my sig) and a !)rant (http://www.shorty-stories.com/cynthiasrant.html) , but I really doubt that The Powers That Be really care. I'm sure they'd rather petite women just disappear (but we're NOT

[SoCalGirl]

Plenty of department stores have quietly shrunk or eliminated womens sizes. Banana Republic and other such stores don't even carry plus sizes but they do carry petites. Stores don't design the clothes. Don't blame the stores for the styles.

[SmartBlondeGPhB]

I saw that and I was happy to see that (my store) Nordstrom isn't doing it. But then, they changed their style a few years ago for women's clothes and lost a LOT of customers over it. They have since changed back but I think they learned their lesson.

[SmartBlondeGPhB]

Originally posted by SoCalGirl
Plenty of department stores have quietly shrunk or eliminated womens sizes. Banana Republic and other such stores don't even carry plus sizes but they do carry petites. Stores don't design the clothes. Don't blame the stores for the styles.

You didn't read the article did you?

If you had, you would know that they interviewed designers who commented that they were GOING TO HAVE TO (as in future tense) change what they designed if there were fewer stores selling petites. It's the stores who are stopping selling the sizes, not the designers who are stopping designing them.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003024004_petite28.html

[SoCalGirl]

No, I didn't read the article. I was responding to TauAlumna's post. I understood, from her post, that it was the stores decisions to cut back what they carry. She inferred (sp?) that the stores have more control over the styles than I believe they actually do. I was also simply pointing out that this has been happening to women's sizes and is not unique to petites.

[kddani]

I really wish women's clothes were sized more like men's. As someone who has longer legs, a lot of pants are too short for me.

If we had sizes like mens, things would fit so much better and we could all be happy!

[Taualumna]

Originally posted by kddani
I really wish women's clothes were sized more like men's. As someone who has longer legs, a lot of pants are too short for me.

If we had sizes like mens, things would fit so much better and we could all be happy!

Don't be so sure. Depending on your inseam length, you might still have problems finding pants. Very likely, pants will be the following sizes:

waist x 29 (petite)
waist x 31 (short)
waist x 33 (regular)
waist x 35 (long)

And chances are, for many brands, the first two sizes on the list won't exist.

[Sister Havana]

And it's even worse if you're petite AND plus size - nearly impossible to find clothing!

The petite sections in most stores only carry up to a size 14 - if that. Anything over that, forget it.

[rhochi2002]

I have noticed that the clothes are disappearing. I had have to go to speciality stores or get everything tailored. lets just say it sucks.

[wrigley]

It's annoying to be told by a salesclerk that 'yes we only had one of that size arrive,etc..'. It shouldn't be that hard to shop. That's why certain department stores have lost my business.

The big three could easily change their tune if enough dollars and customers are lost. Good luck Taualumna.

[sairose]

Ann Taylor and Ann Taylor Loft have a pretty decent Petites section.

[Taualumna]

Originally posted by sairose
Ann Taylor and Ann Taylor Loft have a pretty decent Petites section.

Yes they do, and as does Banana Republic (I think, anyway). But petite women still have fewer choices than average heighted women.

[SoCalGirl]

Originally posted by Taualumna
Yes they do, and as does Banana Republic (I think, anyway). But petite women still have fewer choices than average heighted women.

The irony is that the average sized woman, 5'3", is considered petite. :(

[Tom Earp]

Actually they dont make clothes for anyone off of the damn rack!:mad:

Thank goodness for haband for Mens clothing!:)

If short, length wont fit, if tall, the waist wont fit!

Kind of Like Dr. Charts for Height and weight charts!:rolleyes:

[oceanphi01]

Originally posted by Sister Havana
And it's even worse if you're petite AND plus size - nearly impossible to find clothing!

The petite sections in most stores only carry up to a size 14 - if that. Anything over that, forget it.

AMEN!!!!!!

[33girl]

Originally posted by Sister Havana
And it's even worse if you're petite AND plus size - nearly impossible to find clothing!

The petite sections in most stores only carry up to a size 14 - if that. Anything over that, forget it.

There used to be something called "half sizes" and I think that's basically what they were - plus sizes for shorter women.

I think the last paragraph is what the problem is...the petite departments have a "dowdy" image in the stores they mentioned. Although in Kaufmann's and Macy's I've never seen evidence of this - Macy's especially - the petite stuff is the same as the regular size stuff.

[AGDLynn]

The stores that I visit usually have cute clothes in the petite sizes. For the plus sizes, it's like the designers forgot what cute was..they all look the same boring solid or plaids and have a foot of extra material on the bottom.

[AOIIBrandi]

I always have problems finding pants and skirts in Department stores. I see something cute in the regular sizes and then find out they don't make (or sell) it in petites. BR, Ann Taylor, and AT Loft are great, but what about the rest of the stores with cute clothes?

By the way, tailoring does not really work on pants and jeans. You can have them hemmed, but then the break is in the wrong place.

[KSUViolet06]

I'm 4'11 so most of the things in petite sections still don't fit me. The shortest height that most petite clothing fits is like 5'2.

It's even worse when you are not only REALLY short, but also skinny (think 12 year old girl). Shopping in the children's department is horrendous. It's impossble to find a sexy club top at a store like Limited Too. And forget finding a normal pair of jeans (without some sort of horrid flowery design).

I've decided that I will just have to alter everything I buy for the rest of my life. :)

[AlphaFrog]

Originally posted by JocelynC
[COLOR=deeppink]I'm 4'11 so most of the things in petite sections still don't fit me. The shortest height that most petite clothing fits is like 5'2.


I'm 5'2'', and on me, most petite jeans/pants look like I'm getting ready for flood season.:)

[rhochi2002]

I am to short for petite clothing as well, but it is supposed to be proportioned better for short women. I stick to dresses and skirts as long as it is warm enough because it is less of an issue

[pinkiebell1001]

Sometimes I HATE being short! AND short+fat=not good, lol. I've gotten to the point that I only buy jeans from Lane Bryant, and even their petite stuff is long on me, but It's something I can live with. One question though...do any of yall wear the L.B. flares? I have like 4 pairs of them, and for whatever reason the lighter pairs aren't as ...snug, I guess is the word I'm looking for...as the darker wash ones, at least that's the case with me. Does anyone else find that as well?

[SoCalGirl]

Originally posted by JocelynC
I'm 4'11 so most of the things in petite sections still don't fit me. The shortest height that most petite clothing fits is like 5'2.

It's even worse when you are not only REALLY short, but also skinny (think 12 year old girl). Shopping in the children's department is horrendous. It's impossble to find a sexy club top at a store like Limited Too. And forget finding a normal pair of jeans (without some sort of horrid flowery design).

I've decided that I will just have to alter everything I buy for the rest of my life. :)

I don't know. I've seen some things at Limited Too that made me go :eek: at the idea of a child wearing it but would probably be okay for an adult. Have you tried Ambercrombie? As opposed to A&F. Everytime I walk pass I forget that it's the kids store because it's the exact same stuff. I'm sure sexy and/or professional stuff is difficult to find. Casual clothes is probably easier for you to get your hands on.

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally posted by Taualumna
According to this NYTimes (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/28/business/28petite.html?adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1148846424-+zeTElXpJq6ZZUklwdYf6g) article, many department stores are getting rid of/scaling back their petite section because people aren't shopping there. And they did this all very quietly. How could this have happened? Do retailers really think that petites don't buy petite sizes (if that's the case, then Banana Republic would not have opened petite-only stores. It's the STYLE, everyone!) Something like this would never have happened if this was the plus-sized department.

I have created a petition (http://www.petitiononline.com/shortgal/petition.html) (this can also be found in my sig) and a !)rant (http://www.shorty-stories.com/cynthiasrant.html) , but I really doubt that The Powers That Be really care. I'm sure they'd rather petite women just disappear (but we're NOT

Actually, it would. Limited Brands stopped making size 14 (not even plus-size) pants.

[honeychile]

I like to wear petite shorts or skirts, because I'm short waisted, but can't wear pants unless I call them capris.

For the life of me, I will never understand why women can't buy pants like men - waist & length!

Another complaint: stores such as J.Jill's or Coldwater Creek who say they carry petite and plus sizes, but when you get there, you have to order them. They're not kept in stock!

[ADqtPiMel]

Dude, people of all sizes have trouble finding clothes. Pants are always too short on me (and at 5'8 I'm not exactly a towering giant). Shirts are either too small in the chest or too large around the midsection.

I think it's about time that stores realize that short/tall/heavy/skinny/flat/busty women have money too, and we'd like to buy some damn pants that fit without alterations, for the love of Pete.

[Taualumna]

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
Actually, it would. Limited Brands stopped making size 14 (not even plus-size) pants.

But the Limited isn't a big department store like Bloomies or Neiman.

[33girl]

Originally posted by Taualumna
But the Limited isn't a big department store like Bloomies or Neiman.

However...pretty much everyone has a Limited and Express in their mall. Neiman Marcus and Bloomingdale's are small, comparatively speaking.

[Taualumna]

Originally posted by 33girl
However...pretty much everyone has a Limited and Express in their mall. Neiman Marcus and Bloomingdale's are small, comparatively speaking.

True, when you compare it to the mall, since department stores are really just minature versions of the mall as a whole. But in terms of larger sizes, you can say the same thing about many other mall stores too. Banana Republic, for example, only makes petite sizes up to a 12P, but the average woman is a 14P or 16P.

To ADqtPiMel: Do you have long legs? Many stores (at least the ones I go to), sell pants with a 32 or even 33" inseam, which usually fit people your height.

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally posted by Taualumna
But the Limited isn't a big department store like Bloomies or Neiman.

It wasn't just Limited - it was Limited Brands. In many many parts of the US, Limited and Express are about all a certain demographic of women have for "fashionable" clothes in their mall.

Bloomies and Neiman are not prevalent, at least anywhere I've lived. Neither of them are in the state where I grew up. There are two Neiman's here. Neither of them have ever had any clothing in a 14 that wasn't meant to be worn by somebody twice my age. A 14 isn't even plus-size.

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally posted by Taualumna
True, when you compare it to the mall, since department stores are really just minature versions of the mall as a whole. But in terms of larger sizes, you can say the same thing about many other mall stores too. Banana Republic, for example, only makes petite sizes up to a 12P, but the average woman is a 14P or 16P.

To ADqtPiMel: Do you have long legs? Many stores (at least the ones I go to), sell pants with a 32 or even 33" inseam, which usually fit people your height.

Those aren't long. I'm 5'6" on a good day and I wear a 31" or 32", depending on where the pants sit.

[kddani]

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
Those aren't long. I'm 5'6" on a good day and I wear a 31" or 32", depending on where the pants sit.

Me too.

Ann Taylor Loft has a big petite section. They only sell tall sizes online, however. I HAVE to try any pants that I want to buy on.

I'm also in the lovely group of women of whom regular sizes are a smidge too short but long sizes in some stores drag on the ground. I'm 5'7, fairly long legs, but not THAT long.

All of us have issues finding clothing that fits, no matter what our body type or size.

Also ditto in not having any Bloomies or Neimanns around here.

Macys has a very large petite section.

ETA: do ANY department stores have tall sections?

[Taualumna]

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
Those aren't long. I'm 5'6" on a good day and I wear a 31" or 32", depending on where the pants sit.

Long to me is long for one's height. For someone my height (5'2), 30", even 29 1/2" is "long." At stores that sell short, regular and long lengths, 31" is often the "short" length! While 32" seems to be standard at most stores, there are stores that only sell pants at 33"!!! This is my observation, though.

There aren't that many stores that sell "tall" sizes because most people are not tall enough to have the need to buy tall sizes. I have heard that many average-heighted women up to 5'6 can wear petite sizes because they either have short torsos or legs.

There are probably just as many plus-sized women as there are petites (with many being plus-petites), yet it is short women that get the short end of the stick (no pun intended).

[valkyrie]

Originally posted by Taualumna
There are probably just as many plus-sized women as there are petites (with many being plus-petites), yet it is short women that get the short end of the stick (no pun intended).

As a few other people have said, almost ALL of us get the "short end of the stick" in one way or another. Try having large breasts and no hips -- entire categories of clothing are pretty much a no-go -- sheath dresses (in fact, MANY dresses don't work -- nothing's better than hanging out in the Anthropologie dressing room where you try on a cute little dress only to find that the bottom is too big and the top can't even zip), empire waists, any top or jacket that isn't fitted, strappy things that don't hide bra straps unless you enjoy the torture of strapless bras, Ann Taylor pants, etc. etc. etc.

I guess rather than being bitter about it, I find designers/stores/items that work and go with them. Nobody can wear everything out there. Oh well. Find what works and buy it. If you're teeny tiny, try vintage, which was designed for smaller bodies.

[ADPiShannan]

I have one. You go to buy a cute pair of capris and every one you try on looks like jeans but 2 inches too short. I cant find capris anywhere that look nice. I am losing weight but I am in the 12 butt and hips and I am 5'0 so its horrible. I too cant find much I like. I look at petite places, but so many clothes I see are so ugly in style. The stuff I like is in juniors but those dont fit good at all...

I actually gave up shoppign for a while. One I want to be a 7/8 if that is even possible lol for me and two I cant find anything anymore. It gets so frustrating that I almost cry whenver I shop and my hubby ends up having to listen to me.

I bought a cute pair of shorts not too long ago and they looked like capris instead lol. I cant win. Id wear skirts if my legs werent so white, the dogs white on his fur looks darker than my legs ha ha...

Its a mess clothes shopping anymore. If I had to buy mens sizes Id be doomed because those dont fit anywhere at all.

[Taualumna]

Originally posted by valkyrie
As a few other people have said, almost ALL of us get the "short end of the stick" in one way or another. Try having large breasts and no hips -- entire categories of clothing are pretty much a no-go -- sheath dresses (in fact, MANY dresses don't work -- nothing's better than hanging out in the Anthropologie dressing room where you try on a cute little dress only to find that the bottom is too big and the top can't even zip), empire waists, any top or jacket that isn't fitted, strappy things that don't hide bra straps unless you enjoy the torture of strapless bras, Ann Taylor pants, etc. etc. etc.

I guess rather than being bitter about it, I find designers/stores/items that work and go with them. Nobody can wear everything out there. Oh well. Find what works and buy it. If you're teeny tiny, try vintage, which was designed for smaller bodies.

Average heighted people who are a little bigger on top and/or bottom have it MUCH EASIER than us shorties. All you have to do is look. For us shorties, pants still don't fit properly if we buy the best brands and hem them up (which often cost $$$) because the rise is too long and they look baggy on us. People have suggested that shorties buy capris, but if you're 5'2, regular capris would look half way between capris and regular pants. And the rise will still be too long. Suit jackets are a problem too...

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally posted by Taualumna
Average heighted people who are a little bigger on top and/or bottom have it MUCH EASIER than us shorties. All you have to do is look. For us shorties, pants still don't fit properly if we buy the best brands and hem them up (which often cost $$$) because the rise is too long and they look baggy on us. People have suggested that shorties buy capris, but if you're 5'2, regular capris would look half way between capris and regular pants. And the rise will still be too long. Suit jackets are a problem too...

Everyone has problems with clothes. And if you want to be so traditional and return to traditional, old-fashioned values, why are you wearing pants?

[kddani]

Originally posted by Taualumna
Average heighted people who are a little bigger on top and/or bottom have it MUCH EASIER than us shorties. All you have to do is look. For us shorties, pants still don't fit properly if we buy the best brands and hem them up (which often cost $$$) because the rise is too long and they look baggy on us. People have suggested that shorties buy capris, but if you're 5'2, regular capris would look half way between capris and regular pants. And the rise will still be too long. Suit jackets are a problem too...

Bullshit. "Much easier"? All we have to do is look?

I can't get a dress shirt long enough to tuck in under my suit and stay in. I'm only 5'7. The rise on pants is way too low on me in nearly every single pair of pants and particularly jeans, so much so that if I wore them i'd hear the phrase "just say no to crack". And I don't shop in juniors anymore, so it's not like i'm trying to dress too young.

I don't think petite people have the corner on the difficult-to-find-clothes-that-fit-market and you really have no basis to say that.

So many stores have petite sections. Very few have tall sections or even tall sizes that you can order.

But don't say average height people have is MUCH EASIER.

[kddani]

Wait, I just thought of a solution... let's all go find rich hubbies to pay to have all of our clothes custom made!!! THat's the solution for everyone!

[Taualumna]

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
Everyone has problems with clothes. And if you want to be so traditional and return to traditional, old-fashioned values, why are you wearing pants?

Because sometimes, my mother makes me.

ETA:

As for average heighted people of all sizes, yes, you do have it easier, because you don't have to worry about length as short people do.

I like my skirts and dresses below the knee. At certain lengths, petite sizes fit better because they are cut for shorter women. I'd like to see clothes that are cut at lengths meant for people my size. I'd rather do that than pay money to get things hemmed and sometimes, even made narrower (more difficult)

[kddani]

Originally posted by Taualumna
Because sometimes, my mother makes me.

ETA:

As for average heighted people of all sizes, yes, you do have it easier, because you don't have to worry about length as short people do.


I won't touch that first comment except to say that you are a grown woman.

As for the second part I quoted, did you not read the posts of many of us who are "average" sized who have difficulty with length????

[Taualumna]

Originally posted by kddani
I won't touch that first comment except to say that you are a grown woman.

As for the second part I quoted, did you not read the posts of many of us who are "average" sized who have difficulty with length????

1. I won't be considered "grown" until I am married and out of the house.

2. I am surprised that people aren't taking this seriuosly/supporting it.

[Lady Pi Phi]

Originally posted by ADqtPiMel
Dude, people of all sizes have trouble finding clothes. Pants are always too short on me (and at 5'8 I'm not exactly a towering giant). Shirts are either too small in the chest or too large around the midsection.

I think it's about time that stores realize that short/tall/heavy/skinny/flat/busty women have money too, and we'd like to buy some damn pants that fit without alterations, for the love of Pete.

Amen! I have the same problem. I am also 5'8 and I find that regular length pants are too short but the longs are too long. I need pants that are somewhere in the middle. But I think men have the same problem, even they have an odd lenght inseam, they won't be able to find pants that are the right length.

[Lady Pi Phi]

Originally posted by Taualumna
...2. I am surprised that people aren't taking this seriuosly/supporting it.

People are taking this seriously, it's just that petite people don't have it the hardest.

I'm tall and I'm plus sized. I have it just as bad as a petite person does when trying to find clothes. Have you ever gone into a plus sized section at a department store? 99% of the styles they have are frumpy and out of date. It's not my idea of fashion to walk around in a mumu.

I have the hardest time buying pants. I'm extremly high waisted with long legs. I can't wear at waist plus size pants because they look horrible and I can't wear regular lenght pants because they're too short. But I can't wear long pants either because they're too long.

Most button -up shirts/blouses I can't wear because they don't go around my bust and if I go up to the next size, it's too big.

Shopping, for me is such a chore and often very depressing, that I hate doing it and rarely ever go.

Every woman on this board can tell you about horrible shopping experiences and how hard it is to buy clothes.

That's why this isn't just a problem for petite women.

[SOPi_Jawbreaker]

Originally posted by valkyrie
If you're teeny tiny, try vintage, which was designed for smaller bodies.

That's also true of clothing in other countries. I'm normal sized here (5'3" with shoes on, size 8 or 10), but when I was in Taiwan, it was so hard to find a shirt. We had to go to a couple different shops until we finally found one that had an extra large shirt. When my mom went to China, she said the sizes in China run even smaller than in Taiwan. She couldn't find anything that fit her. She's about 5'1" and a size 2 or 4.

[ADqtPiMel]

Originally posted by Lady Pi Phi
Amen! I have the same problem. I am also 5'8 and I find that regular length pants are too short but the longs are too long. I need pants that are somewhere in the middle. But I think men have the same problem, even they have an odd lenght inseam, they won't be able to find pants that are the right length.

Word. Regular pants are always too short on me and the longs drag the ground. I usually get longs and get them hemmed. I also get my button down shirts tailored to avoid the tent look, since my boobs are proportionately larger than my waist.

ETA- It's not that I don't support the plight of petites, I just don't think that their problem is that much worse than anyone else's.

[AGDee]

I'm 5'2 1/2" but my body is proportionately longer than my legs, so all pants are long on me. What I do, to avoid having to hem pants (at least summer pants) is buy capri's or crop pants. They fit me like regular pants, problem solved!

[SOPi_Jawbreaker]

Originally posted by SOPi_Jawbreaker
That's also true of clothing in other countries. I'm normal sized here (5'3" with shoes on, size 8 or 10), but when I was in Taiwan, it was so hard to find a shirt. We had to go to a couple different shops until we finally found one that had an extra large shirt. When my mom went to China, she said the sizes in China run even smaller than in Taiwan. She couldn't find anything that fit her. She's about 5'1" and a size 2 or 4.

I forgot to add that my mom did find a solution. She got a few custom-made pieces. Chinese-made fabric is really cheap (imported stuff is another story), and the seamstresses are very affordable and most do very good work. My mom got black dress pants made for about $12 each (fabric and labor). So maybe everyone should go out and befriend a Chinese international student, and when she goes home for break, have her take your measurements with her. :p :rolleyes: :D

[Glitter650]

I know most federated stores carry INC and they make almost all their stuff in Petite sizes, and it's not ugly or outdated styles either.
I'm only 5'1 PLUS I have proportionately short legs, so pants are ALWAYS too long, as are sleeves... I hem and roll and shop petite when available. I actually think it's harder if you're super tall because you can't really make pants longer, but I can pretty much always hem mine up.

[rhochi2002]

I think everyone thinks that there problem is worst whether it is being petite, plus sized, or tall. And having friends of all sizes I can definately say that all of our problems are equal. I love going shopping, but I rarely find stuff that fits correctly.

[kddani]

Originally posted by rhochi2002
I think everyone thinks that there problem is worst whether it is being petite, plus sized, or tall. And having friends of all sizes I can definately say that all of our problems are equal. I love going shopping, but I rarely find stuff that fits correctly.

I don't know that anyone but Taualumna thinks they have it the worst... everyone else is agreeing that pretty much all women have problems finding things that fit them well, because there are so many different body types of women!

Petites have the option of hemming or otherwise altering their clothes... I can't add fabric!

[Rudey]

I love threads like this because the skinny and fat girls fight each other. MEOW MEOW!!

-Rudey

[BobbyTheDon]

I have a solution to all of your problems. Just stop wearing clothes.

Except you Kddani. Your fair skin will blind us all. Please, spare our eyes and wear clothes.

[kddani]

http://getspunkd.com/brad/lollipop_guild.jpg

[Dionysus]

I think tall girls have it better than petite girls. If you're like 5'7'' or taller (or weigh more than 200 lbs.) and can't find clothing your size, then why don't you just shop in the guys' section? :confused:



I'm joking...

[oceanphi01]

Originally posted by ADqtPiMel
I think it's about time that stores realize that short/tall/heavy/skinny/flat/busty women have money too, and we'd like to buy some damn pants that fit without alterations, for the love of Pete.


AMEN!!!!

[Rudey]

http://www.fatchicksinpartyhats.com/fathatdance.html

-Rudey
--Bobby these girls found clothing that fits so you don't have to worry about that problem.

[mulattogyrl]

Originally posted by kddani
Petites have the option of hemming or otherwise altering their clothes... I can't add fabric!

That's a good point. I'm 5'1 and have wide hips so of course I have problems, but I guess I'm just used to hemming my pants or buying capris that turn out sort of normal length, lol. It really isn't a big deal to me.

[rhochi2002]

you guys are special...
:rolleyes:

[valkyrie]

Originally posted by Taualumna
Average heighted people who are a little bigger on top and/or bottom have it MUCH EASIER than us shorties. All you have to do is look. For us shorties, pants still don't fit properly if we buy the best brands and hem them up (which often cost $$$) because the rise is too long and they look baggy on us. People have suggested that shorties buy capris, but if you're 5'2, regular capris would look half way between capris and regular pants. And the rise will still be too long. Suit jackets are a problem too...

HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT I HAVE IT MUCH EASIER THAN YOU DO? I'm serious. How do you know that? Okay so you have problems with pants. Great. I have problems with shirts. They often have these length problems that seem so terrible to you -- by the time they cover the boobs, there's not enough left to cover the midriff! And suit jackets! And skirts, because they're often designed for women with "child bearing hips," and my hips ain't birthin' no child, thanks. So OMGWTF I have it worse than everybody! Larger girls can just wear mumus! OMG! And short girls can buy skirts and pull them up to their armpits and pass them off as dresses! See?! I'm so jealous! If I wear something fitted, I look like a porn star! And if I wear something baggy, it looks like a tent! OH NOES!

Nobody is as worked up about this as you are because the rest of us realize that we ALL HAVE PROBLEMS.

[Taualumna]

Originally posted by valkyrie
HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT I HAVE IT MUCH EASIER THAN YOU DO? I'm serious. How do you know that? Okay so you have problems with pants. Great. I have problems with shirts. They often have these length problems that seem so terrible to you -- by the time they cover the boobs, there's not enough left to cover the midriff! And suit jackets! And skirts, because they're often designed for women with "child bearing hips," and my hips ain't birthin' no child, thanks. So OMGWTF I have it worse than everybody! Larger girls can just wear mumus! OMG! And short girls can buy skirts and pull them up to their armpits and pass them off as dresses! See?! I'm so jealous! If I wear something fitted, I look like a porn star! And if I wear something baggy, it looks like a tent! OH NOES!

Nobody is as worked up about this as you are because the rest of us realize that we ALL HAVE PROBLEMS.

Short girls don't ONLY have problems with pants. I'm sick and tired of people thinking that. Short people are usually short all over. We don't ONLY have short legs. We have problems with shirts, jackets and skirts too because they're too darn long! You can't hem a shirt or jacket, can you? You just look like a 10 year old wearing Mommy's work clothes.

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally posted by Taualumna
Short girls don't ONLY have problems with pants. I'm sick and tired of people thinking that. Short people are usually short all over. We don't ONLY have short legs. We have problems with shirts, jackets and skirts too because they're too darn long! You can't hem a shirt or jacket, can you? You just look like a 10 year old wearing Mommy's work clothes.

You can hem shirts and jackets. You must have the worst tailor in the world. I get all my suit jackets hemmed and taken in. It's like $15.

[Taualumna]

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
You can hem shirts and jackets. You must have the worst tailor in the world. I get all my suit jackets hemmed and taken in. It's like $15.


So you're basically saying that petite sizes don't really matter, and that we shouldn't be complaining that stores are cutting back. I have spoken with many short people, and they have said that they'd rather wear petites than regular sizes.

A hemmed suit jacket in a regular size still won't fit as well as an actual petite sized jacket.

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally posted by Taualumna
So you're basically saying that petite sizes don't really matter, and that we shouldn't be complaining that stores are cutting back. I have spoken with many short people, and they have said that they'd rather wear petites than regular sizes.

A hemmed suit jacket in a regular size still won't fit as well as an actual petite sized jacket.

It will if you also get it taken in. For the love of God, get a tailor and get over it. I don't know a single woman who has everything she tries on off the rack fit her perfectly.

[tunatartare]

Originally posted by Taualumna
So you're basically saying that petite sizes don't really matter, and that we shouldn't be complaining that stores are cutting back. I have spoken with many short people, and they have said that they'd rather wear petites than regular sizes.

A hemmed suit jacket in a regular size still won't fit as well as an actual petite sized jacket.
Cry me a river, build a bridge, and get over it.


And before you start saying that I don't know what it's like to have a hard time finding clothes, I'm 5'1", have both hips, an ass, and big boobs. So yes, I do know. It just doesn't preoccupy my whole day and existance.

[Taualumna]

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
It will if you also get it taken in. For the love of God, get a tailor and get over it. I don't know a single woman who has everything she tries on off the rack fit her perfectly.

Maybe I should become a clothing designer and make clothes especially for shorter women. My models will also be under 5'5.

[kddani]

Originally posted by Taualumna
Maybe I should become a clothing designer and make clothes especially for shorter women. My models will also be under 5'5.

Knock yourself out, as least that would be a productive solution for you.

No one denies that petite women can have a hard time finding clothes. What we deny and think you're being a b!tch about is saying that you exclusively have it the worst when women everywhere have difficulty.

Why are you so insistent that you have it SO hard and are SO special?

And yes you can get shirts and stuff altered. Taller or longer torsoed people can't- WE CANNOT ADD MATERIAL.

[mulattogyrl]

Originally posted by valkyrie
And short girls can buy skirts and pull them up to their armpits and pass them off as dresses! See?! I'm so jealous! If I wear something fitted, I look like a porn star! And if I wear something baggy, it looks like a tent! OH NOES!


LMAO @ these sentences. But how come I did that with the skirt thing before? LMAAAAO.

[valkyrie]

Originally posted by mulattogyrl
LMAO @ these sentences. But how come I did that with the skirt thing before? LMAAAAO.

HAHA I used to do that with Barbies.

[AlphaFrog]

Or us short people can wear really long tank tops and call them sheath dresses. I have a blouse that I just got from Old Navy, and it hits about mid-thigh, and my husband swears that it's supposed to be a dress. Men:rolleyes: :)

[Steeltrap]

Originally posted by valkyrie
As a few other people have said, almost ALL of us get the "short end of the stick" in one way or another. Try having large breasts and no hips -- entire categories of clothing are pretty much a no-go -- sheath dresses (in fact, MANY dresses don't work -- nothing's better than hanging out in the Anthropologie dressing room where you try on a cute little dress only to find that the bottom is too big and the top can't even zip), empire waists, any top or jacket that isn't fitted, strappy things that don't hide bra straps unless you enjoy the torture of strapless bras, Ann Taylor pants, etc. etc. etc.

I guess rather than being bitter about it, I find designers/stores/items that work and go with them. Nobody can wear everything out there. Oh well. Find what works and buy it. If you're teeny tiny, try vintage, which was designed for smaller bodies.

Excellent advice on finding what works, no matter what your figure issue is.
I am tall (5'9") and have very large hips/thighs and small-ish mammaries. My bottom often times pushes me into full-fashion, plus size, whatever. I pick and choose what I can tolerate from those lines (because trust, I loathe full elastic waists, high waists, tapering, all that isht)
MamaTrap is 5' tall and she has few issues. I do think, however, that department store petites are geared to mature women.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally posted by Steeltrap
I do think, however, that department store petites are geared to mature women.

LOL:D Sorry, I know that wasn't supposed to be funny, but in the context of this thread...it was.;)

[Steeltrap]

Originally posted by AlphaFrog
LOL:D Sorry, I know that wasn't supposed to be funny, but in the context of this thread...it was.;)

OK, thanks for clarifying.;)

[Taualumna]

I think what people aren't seeing is that petite sizes, when available, are designed proportionately smaller. Usually buttons are smaller, stripes might be closer together, etc, etc...Short people would rather be able to buy things that proportionately fit them rather than buy something that is a "regular" size and then have to spend half+ of what they did purchasing the outfit in alterations. In any case, what's the point of buying the outfit if you have to cut it, shrink it and change the button sizes?

[kddani]

Originally posted by Taualumna
I think what people aren't seeing is that petite sizes, when available, are designed proportionately smaller. Usually buttons are smaller, stripes might be closer together, etc, etc...Short people would rather be able to buy things that proportionately fit them rather than buy something that is a "regular" size and then have to spend half+ of what they did purchasing the outfit in alterations. In any case, what's the point of buying the outfit if you have to cut it, shrink it and change the button sizes?

And as we've all been saying and things that don't get through to you is that we ALL have similar problems. These problems ARE NOT exclusive to petites. Some of us don't even HAVE the option of alterations. We would all like to be able to find things that fit and flatter us. It's hard to find good clothes that do that, for all of us.

Perhaps you should try to get on "What Not to Wear". Stacey and Clinton do an excellent job of showing people of all shapes and sizes how to find clothing for their particular body type.

I wish I could afford to tailor my clothes... tailored clothes look so much better on everyone. We're not all cut from the same mold, but the clothing is.

People would be a lot more sympathetic to your plight if you didn't keep saying that you had it the toughest.

[Peaches-n-Cream]

Originally posted by Taualumna
I think what people aren't seeing is that petite sizes, when available, are designed proportionately smaller. Usually buttons are smaller, stripes might be closer together, etc, etc...Short people would rather be able to buy things that proportionately fit them rather than buy something that is a "regular" size and then have to spend half+ of what they did purchasing the outfit in alterations. In any case, what's the point of buying the outfit if you have to cut it, shrink it and change the button sizes?

A good tailor or seamstress can do can amazing job. Like you, my sister is petite. Unlike you, she had little interest in the petite department. (The clothes fit, but they weren't the most fashionable.) She would buy a cute outfit or suit and take it to the tailor who would work his magic. She would also find designers and styles that flatter her particular body type.

Maybe you should take sewing lessons. I know someone who would find patterns that she liked and would buy material to make clothes. She was really talented.

[Taualumna]

Originally posted by Peaches-n-Cream
A good tailor or seamstress can do can amazing job. Like you, my sister is petite. Unlike you, she had little interest in the petite department. (The clothes fit, but they weren't the most fashionable.) She would buy a cute outfit or suit and take it to the tailor who would work his magic. She would also find designers and styles that flatter her particular body type.

Maybe you should take sewing lessons. I know someone who would find patterns that she liked and would buy material to make clothes. She was really talented.

If your little sister was more interested in the petite department, then perhaps there would be more petite sizes out there. The issue here is that many petite women don't even know that these sizes exist, unlike plus sized women who are usually very well informed about plus sizes.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally posted by Taualumna
If your little sister was more interested in the petite department, then perhaps there would be more petite sizes out there. The issue here is that many petite women don't even know that these sizes exist, unlike plus sized women who are usually very well informed about plus sizes.

What's the matter, are you too short to read the "Petite" sign that hangs over the department??

[tunatartare]

Ok there is really no nice way of putting this: Taualumna, no one here cares about this except you. It's annoying how you think you're special and different because clothes don't fit you right. You're not the only one. If you're really serious about this, go find a forum for short people or whatnot, we just don't care.

[kddani]

Originally posted by AlphaFrog
What's the matter, are you too short to read the "Petite" sign that hangs over the department??

Lol, oh damn.

There is a ton of cute petite clothing out there. I know, because i've accidentally wandered into the sections a couple of times, picked up something and said wow this is cute. Then I realized the jacket would probably hit an inch below my boobs

[GeekyPenguin]

I am just going to give you what you want.


http://www.iamnotageek.com/images/smilies/smiley_violin.gif

[AlphaFrog]

Ya'll I have to be honest and say that since I work at a plumbing company, and you never know when you're going to have to check in material, or drop material off at a job site, I wear cheap clothes to work (unless I have a meeting to go to that day, or someone special coming into the office) so I won't get my nice ones ripped or dirty. I have boobs and butt and I'm 5'2'', but I get my cheap clothes from Walmart and I never have a problem finding things that fit perfectly.

[valkyrie]

Originally posted by Taualumna
If your little sister was more interested in the petite department, then perhaps there would be more petite sizes out there. The issue here is that many petite women don't even know that these sizes exist, unlike plus sized women who are usually very well informed about plus sizes.

Wait, are you seriously complaining that her sister did something constructive about the terrible dilemma of petite clothing? It sounds like you feel that Peaches-n-Cream's sister, someone who has never met you, owes you, as a petite woman, some kind of duty to buy off-the-rack petite clothing so you and other similarly situated petite women might have an easier time finding petite clothing. Is that what you're saying?

Are you also saying that other petite women are too stupid to know what's out there in terms of clothing sizes?

[tunatartare]

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
I am just going to give you what you want.


http://www.iamnotageek.com/images/smilies/smiley_violin.gif
that's great :)

[AlphaFrog]

Originally posted by valkyrie
Are you also saying that other petite women are too stupid to know what's out there in terms of clothing sizes?

Thank you.:)

[valkyrie]

Originally posted by AlphaFrog
Thank you.:)

You're welcome. If I were petite, that would make me mad. Good thing I'm not! I'm going to run to the mall and roll around in the tons and tons of clothing that all fits me perfectly!

[kddani]

To all you vertically challenged folks, I think the rest of us "average" and taller folks will pitch in and buy one of these that you can all use to help solve your clothing woes:

http://thehauntedcastle.net/images/stretchRack.jpg

[mulattogyrl]

Originally posted by KLPDaisy
Ok there is really no nice way of putting this: Taualumna, no one here cares about this except you. It's annoying how you think you're special and different because clothes don't fit you right. You're not the only one. If you're really serious about this, go find a forum for short people or whatnot, we just don't care.

CTFUUUU!!!!!

[mulattogyrl]

Originally posted by Taualumna
If your little sister was more interested in the petite department, then perhaps there would be more petite sizes out there. The issue here is that many petite women don't even know that these sizes exist, unlike plus sized women who are usually very well informed about plus sizes.

Even still, I think it's easier for us than plus size women, because if our clothes are too big, we can always alter. If a plus woman's size is too small, she (or I really should be saying we LOL) can't add fabric to the clothing. It's easier for me to fit something too long than something too tight.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally posted by mulattogyrl
It's easier for me to fit something too long than something too tight.

And it's more pleasant for people to look at.:) - Not directed spesifically @ you mulatto...this girl is plus sized too. :)

I'd rather see someone with their shirt hanging down to their knees and their pants trailing behind them then a girl lookin like a plus size pig in a baby sized blanket.

[valkyrie]

No matter how hard I try, I just cannot get tired of this thread.

[Munchkin03]

Originally posted by Taualumna
Because sometimes, my mother makes me.



With quotes like this, how could you, really?

[rhochi2002]

Originally posted by valkyrie
No matter how hard I try, I just cannot get tired of this thread.
me either.... I like the picture dani posted....

oh btw... some seamstress will custom make clothes for you... My mom is awesome at sewing and she occasionally makes me clothing.... and it usually looks good.

[wrigley]

Originally posted by Taualumna
The issue here is that many petite women don't even know that these sizes exist, unlike plus sized women who are usually very well informed about plus sizes.

Other posters better than I have said it before. Everyone has flaws. You play the hand you're dealt and adapt accordingly. Before specialty departments, women went to tailors or knew how to sew their own clothes.

Average, petite, plus sized and tall women are just as educated as to which designers carry what sizes or which stores no longer carry them. Only 3 expensive stores stopped carrying petites. If not being able to shop at Neiman's, Saks, or Bloomies is your biggest problem then I don't know what to say.

[ADPiShannan]

That pic was horrible. I am short and dont want that lol.

Ok I look in the petite section, but they dont have clothes I like. I am only 25, I dont wear clothes my mom or grandma wears so I dont end up buying from there. My grandma is very small and shops in the petite section and when I look in there everything I see reminds me of her or I wonder if she will have the same outfit if I buy it. Ive found in some sections they sell pants with elactic waists and well I am not that old to wear that yet.

Its just hard to shop in petites. I am sorry to see it go at a lot of places, but I cant really shop there because I wont wear the older looking clothes. Not that anything is wrong with the clothes, just not my style.

I am in the part of my life where I dont want to wear a Juicy across my butt or boobs, but I dont want to wear older lady clothing either.

I agree with buying pants and getting them tailored. I have to do that no matter what though so its something I do. I see cute clothes and buy them then take all the pants home and have my grandma alter them unless I need a tailor to do something extensive.

I think everyone has problems. I wish they could come up with a way so everyone could find clothing that looked good. Its frustrating and annoying but it happens to us all and its something I dont see changing anytime soon. Guys have it so much easier and I envy that. I wish I could just look on a rack for my size and never try it on because I know it will fit. I spend hours in the dressing room trying all all trypes of clothes.

Not only do I have problems with the pants but I have the big boob problem too so I have to try on shirt to make sure they arent suctioned to me. More likely I get a Large or XL depending on where its from and it fits the boobs but is way too long to too big at the bottom...

I cant win lol...

Desingers need a way to make it so we can all find our size.

[tunatartare]

Ok so I'm a cyclops and I only have three legs and I have to say that this thread is incredibly unfair to my kind. Do you know how hard it is to find pants with three legs or a pair of glasses that only covers one eye? Designers are discriminating against me just because I was born with a horrible birth defect. I say we stop the madness, protest their actions, and get the ACLU involved!!!!!




and now back to your regularly scheduled thread

[mulattogyrl]

Originally posted by AlphaFrog
And it's more pleasant for people to look at.:) - Not directed spesifically @ you mulatto...this girl is plus sized too. :)

I'd rather see someone with their shirt hanging down to their knees and their pants trailing behind them then a girl lookin like a plus size pig in a baby sized blanket.

CTFFFU!!! This thread is too funny. But you're right, I'd rather see that too. You know the saying, just because they make it in our size doesn't mean we should be wearing it! LOL

[mulattogyrl]

Originally posted by KLPDaisy
Ok so I'm a cyclops and I only have three legs and I have to say that this thread is incredibly unfair to my kind. Do you know how hard it is to find pants with three legs or a pair of glasses that only covers one eye? Designers are discriminating against me just because I was born with a horrible birth defect. I say we stop the madness, protest their actions, and get the ACLU involved!!!!!




and now back to your regularly scheduled thread

DAMMMITT!!!!! I am laughing so hard at work right now and luckily my boss isn't here or my ass would be fired!!!

[Peaches-n-Cream]

Originally posted by Taualumna
If your little sister was more interested in the petite department, then perhaps there would be more petite sizes out there. The issue here is that many petite women don't even know that these sizes exist, unlike plus sized women who are usually very well informed about plus sizes.

I doubt my little sister is that powerful. And she would kick your butt for calling her little. ;)

ETA: Seriously, if this is the worst thing in your life or your biggest complaint, count yourself lucky.

[kddani]

You know, these sorts of things are market driven. They don't decide to cut product lines for no good reason. Maybe the wealthier women who shop in these stores (which are all more upscale than a lot of people can afford) prefer to get their things tailored. So I guess it's the short people's fault for not buying the stuff, dammit!

[FeeFee]

Originally posted by valkyrie
HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT I HAVE IT MUCH EASIER THAN YOU DO? I'm serious. How do you know that? Okay so you have problems with pants. Great. I have problems with shirts. They often have these length problems that seem so terrible to you -- by the time they cover the boobs, there's not enough left to cover the midriff! And suit jackets! And skirts, because they're often designed for women with "child bearing hips," and my hips ain't birthin' no child, thanks. So OMGWTF I have it worse than everybody! Larger girls can just wear mumus! OMG! And short girls can buy skirts and pull them up to their armpits and pass them off as dresses! See?! I'm so jealous! If I wear something fitted, I look like a porn star! And if I wear something baggy, it looks like a tent! OH NOES!

Nobody is as worked up about this as you are because the rest of us realize that we ALL HAVE PROBLEMS.

CTHU @ "And skirts, because they're often designed for women with "child bearing hips," and my hips ain't birthin' no child, thanks."

I'm 5'7 with small breasts, small waist and big butt. Trust me when I tell you how much I despise shopping sometimes. Because of my waist size, I mostly have to get pants and skirts with belt loops, or else I'll be showing my goodies (my mother has the same waist issue and she's shorter than I am.) or having my skirt twist on me while I'm walking down the street. *sigh*

[Peaches-n-Cream]

Originally posted by valkyrie
Wait, are you seriously complaining that her sister did something constructive about the terrible dilemma of petite clothing? It sounds like you feel that Peaches-n-Cream's sister, someone who has never met you, owes you, as a petite woman, some kind of duty to buy off-the-rack petite clothing so you and other similarly situated petite women might have an easier time finding petite clothing. Is that what you're saying?

Are you also saying that other petite women are too stupid to know what's out there in terms of clothing sizes?

lol, my sister is disloyal to the plight of the petite sisterhood.

[WCUgirl]

I think y'all scared her away.

[FeeFee]

This thread is hilarious!!! :)

[valkyrie]

Originally posted by kddani
You know, these sorts of things are market driven. They don't decide to cut product lines for no good reason. Maybe the wealthier women who shop in these stores (which are all more upscale than a lot of people can afford) prefer to get their things tailored. So I guess it's the short people's fault for not buying the stuff, dammit!

Is there a correlation between height and wealth? If so, is it because petite women lack the skills of average-heighted women when it comes to careers and/or marrying wealthy men? Is it because of prejudism facing those viewed as height-impaired by the dominant forces in our society? Don't these women owe a duty to each other and society as a whole to earn more money and spend it such that designers and stores take notice and supply plentiful fashion options for them? Perhaps we could implement scholarship programs to enable this to happen, or create television shows whereby petite women can compete for the chance to become a designer or marry a man with enough money to buy all the fashionable clothing they could ever desire! The hills are alive with the possibilities of petite fashion revolution!

[rhochi2002]

Originally posted by valkyrie
create television shows whereby petite women can compete for the chance to become a designer or marry a man with enough money to buy all the fashionable clothing they could ever desire! The hills are alive with the possibilities of petite fashion revolution!
OMG you have figured out the secret aim of the PS (petite sisterhood).

[CrimsonTide4]

This thread is damneded hilarious. :)

5'4 1/2 ~ average girl at Lerner (NY & CO)

[amycat412]

Originally posted by CrimsonTide4
This thread is damneded hilarious. :)

5'4 1/2 ~ average girl at Lerner (NY & CO)


Maybe a tattoo would make them appear taller. ;) :p HA HAHAHAHA

[CrimsonTide4]

Originally posted by amycat412
Maybe a tattoo would make them appear taller. ;) :p HA HAHAHAHA

I agree. ;)

[Steeltrap]

Originally posted by kddani
You know, these sorts of things are market driven. They don't decide to cut product lines for no good reason. Maybe the wealthier women who shop in these stores (which are all more upscale than a lot of people can afford) prefer to get their things tailored. So I guess it's the short people's fault for not buying the stuff, dammit!

And I think we have a winner. I am no longer a retail writer, but markets and buying patterns are key. Buyers and managers take a look at what's selling, and make decisions on adding or eliminating lines based on that.

With plus, of course, there is also aesthetic prejudice, but I will leave that alone.

[Steeltrap]

Originally posted by Sister Havana
And it's even worse if you're petite AND plus size - nearly impossible to find clothing!

The petite sections in most stores only carry up to a size 14 - if that. Anything over that, forget it.

Petite plus is not terribly common. But some of the more traditional/classic lines (Talbots, Jones New York) have plus petites. If you do follow trends, you will have issues.

[Peaches-n-Cream]

Is it wrong that I am thinking of the song "Short People" by Randy Newman?

[SOPi_Jawbreaker]

Originally posted by rhochi2002
OMG you have figured out the secret aim of the PS (petite sisterhood).

It's actually the petite mothaf@#%in' sisterhood.

[rhochi2002]

Originally posted by SOPi_Jawbreaker
It's actually the petite mothaf@#%in' sisterhood.
Aww damn I forgot the middle word :D

[Taualumna]

There are lots of people who don't realize that petite sizes exist. I think wealthier women would rather have trendy clothes altered because higher end petite clothes generally are cut very matronly, and even baby-boomers refuse to wear them (well, my mom refuses to wear them, anyway)! Really, if more petite sizes are trendier, then people would buy. I seriously believe that they limit petite sizes/make them matronly to upset shorter women. I really hope that petite issues are some day presented like plus-sized women. Too bad I'm an awful designer. Otherwise, I would seriously create a petite line and have the world's first 5'3 supermodel.

[kddani]

Originally posted by Taualumna
There are lots of people who don't realize that petite sizes exist. I think wealthier women would rather have trendy clothes altered because higher end petite clothes generally are cut very matronly, and even baby-boomers refuse to wear them (well, my mom refuses to wear them, anyway)! Really, if more petite sizes are trendier, then people would buy. I seriously believe that they limit petite sizes/make them matronly to upset shorter women. I really hope that petite issues are some day presented like plus-sized women. Too bad I'm an awful designer. Otherwise, I would seriously create a petite line and have the world's first 5'3 supermodel.

Wow, you must think people are that stupid. Actually, you're the one who's starting to sound like you don't have much going on upstairs saying things like this. Short people don't realize petite sizes exist.... RIGHT. Really, i've never thought of you as unintelligent, but this post is changing my mind.

And yes, they purposely try to upset shorter women--- WTF? How does that make any sense? IT'S TEH CONSPIRACY!!!! Yes, they're after you. Go hide yourself in a bunker somewhere.

There are plenty of other stores with petite sizes and cute stuff. Get off your lazy behind and go find them or quit your bitching.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally posted by Taualumna
There are lots of people who don't realize that petite sizes exist.

(Did those people ride the "petite" bus to school??)

Originally posted by valkyrie
No matter how hard I try, I just cannot get tired of this thread.

Ditto.

[kddani]

If people are too stupid to realize petite sizes exist (really, it's not like they hide them in a dark corner somehow) then they don't deserve to have clothes that fit.

[astroAPhi]

That sucks for me.

The problem with a petite woman buying average length pants is that the fit is still off in other places. In high school I would buy flared jeans and alter them, but the flare would be in the wrong spot... about halfway down my calf instead of at the knee. Capris also look ridiculous on me... they look like pants in the length but the legs look all wrong because they're only supposed to come somewhere between your knee and halfway down your calf.

I'll just have to hope that they keep carrying petite sizes at the places I shop.

[AlphaFrog]

MSN Serch
Web Results Page 1 of 33,825 results containing +"Department Store" +Petite

Not quite the crisis situation that you imagine if I can come up with 33,000 hits for Petite and Department store in a 15 second search.

[Dionysus]

Ummm...we have not touched on shoes!

They have shoe sizes for those who have feet the same size of pinky finger all the way up to the size my thigh....but they don't have any shoes for people who wear two sizes. :mad:

My left foot is 6 1/2 and my right foot is 7 1/2.

Weep for us! :(

[AlphaFrog]

Originally posted by Dionysus
Ummm...we have not touched on shoes!


Or bras for that matter. It's not unusual to have a full cup size difference, but do designers care.....NNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOooooo. And what's up with the newer "Nearly A", "Nearly B" and "Nearly C" bra sizes...how about a "Nearly watermelons" for the rest of us???

ETA: Waiting for the males to chime in at this point about how their brains are going to explode.:) ;)

[kddani]

Originally posted by Dionysus
Ummm...we have not touched on shoes!

They have shoe sizes for those who have feet the same size of pinky finger all the way up to the size my thigh....but they don't have any shoes for people who wear two sizes. :mad:

My left foot is 6 1/2 and my right foot is 7 1/2.

Weep for us! :(

Lol, you're one of THOSE people. I hated when I had to work in the department that included shoes back in HS when I worked at TJ Maxx. There were so many single shoes that lost their mate, due to one-footed people and people like you! lol

[ADqtPiMel]

Originally posted by kddani
due to one-footed people

LOLZ.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally posted by kddani
due to one-footed people

Damn peg-leg pirates! ARGH!!!

[kddani]

Originally posted by AlphaFrog
Damn peg-leg pirates! ARGH!!!

You know what, they did a damn good job of hiding it too... Keeping those damn parrots quiet is quite a feat!

[AlphaFrog]

Originally posted by kddani
You know what, they did a damn good job of hiding it too... Keeping those damn parrots quiet is quite a feat!

Maybe they borrowed the parrot from the Monty Python Sketch. (http://orangecow.org/pythonet/pet-shop.html)

[Taualumna]

Originally posted by kddani
Wow, you must think people are that stupid. Actually, you're the one who's starting to sound like you don't have much going on upstairs saying things like this. Short people don't realize petite sizes exist.... RIGHT. Really, i've never thought of you as unintelligent, but this post is changing my mind.

And yes, they purposely try to upset shorter women--- WTF? How does that make any sense? IT'S TEH CONSPIRACY!!!! Yes, they're after you. Go hide yourself in a bunker somewhere.

There are plenty of other stores with petite sizes and cute stuff. Get off your lazy behind and go find them or quit your bitching.

Are there? I can name the following that are NOT matronly:

Banana Republic (but they do not carry the entire line in petites, not even online)

Ann Taylor/Ann Taylor Loft (see above)

J.Crew (see above)

Reitmans (see above (and they do not have an online store))

Laura Petites (part of the Laura chain of stores. Mall staple in Canada. Petite sizes are okay, but only for formalwear. Their "regular" clothes fall into the Talbots category of "matronly")

INC International Concepts (decent collection)

Anthropologie (again, not their entire collection)

Jones New York is pretty decent, I think, but it's very career-y

As for not knowing about petite sizes: I think this is a very "English speaking country" thing. I have cousins, who are from Hong Kong, and are right on the border between "regular" and "petite" did not realize that petite sizes exist. I have never seen "petite" sizes in Europe or in Asia. In addition, many people do not realize that they are petite, because they are led to believe that either:

A: They are too tall for petite sizes or
B: That "petite" means under size 8 (as my aunt does. She took her very proportioned 5'6 1/2 daughter into a petite sized store for a formal dress.)

As for shoes: It is NOT that easy to find shoes if you are under size 6.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally posted by Taualumna
I have cousins, who are from Hong Kong, and are right on the border between "regular" and "petite" did not realize that petite sizes exist.

B: That "petite" means under size 8 (as my aunt does. She took her very proportioned 5'6 1/2 daughter into a petite sized store for a formal dress.)


Congratulations, your entire family is loaded with morons. You come by it honestly.

(Are you starting to understand that you're not going to convince anyone here that a person of normal intelligence does not know that petites exist).

PS Why for the love of GOD do you care if they sell petites in Europe???

[AlphaFrog]

Originally posted by AXiD670
Are the other clothes designed for the thick girls?"

:eek: :eek:

[Taualumna]

Originally posted by AlphaFrog
Congratulations, your entire family is loaded with morons. You come by it honestly.

(Are you starting to understand that you're not going to convince anyone here that a person of normal intelligence does not know that petites exist).

PS Why for the love of GOD do you care if they sell petites in Europe???

Actually not knowing about petite sizes is pretty "normal" if you are not from an English speaking country. My family is from Hong Kong and the foreign brands that are there do not come in petites (even though the average woman in Hong Kong is one inch shorter than the average woman in North America). The ladies there just accept the fact that they need alterations and have never even thought to ask for petite sizes. THIS IS WHY I THINK MORE LINES SHOULD HAVE PETITES. The market is out there, so why not enter into that market?

As for European clothes: Frame-wise, I fit into European sizes better than American sizes.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally posted by Taualumna
The ladies there just accept the fact that they need alterations and have never even thought to ask for petite sizes.

If an entire continent of women have accepted the concept of tailors/alterations...why can't you???

You are never going to find an entire department of clothes that fit you perfectly right off the rack. NO WOMAN IS! There is a reason that celebs and rich women don't buy off the rack.

[mulattogyrl]

Originally posted by AXiD670
Never in my life have I heard someone who wears a size 0 in missy be called a thick girl.

:eek: It's official. I'm a whale.

[Taualumna]

Originally posted by AlphaFrog
If an entire continent of women have accepted the concept of tailors/alterations...why can't you???

You are never going to find an entire department of clothes that fit you perfectly right off the rack. NO WOMAN IS! There is a reason that celebs and rich women don't buy off the rack.

They accept it because they don't have an alternative if they want foreign brands. If petite sizes are made more readily available, they will certainly buy petite sizes.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally posted by Taualumna
They accept it because they don't have an alternative if they want foreign brands. If petite sizes are made more readily available, they will certainly buy petite sizes.

But I thought they were too stupid to know they exist. If they can't figure out they exist...how can they buy them?? (And does the cashier count their money at the register for them, because that would be extremely challenging for these women):rolleyes:

[Taualumna]

Originally posted by AlphaFrog
But I thought they were too stupid to know they exist. If they can't figure out they exist...how can they buy them?? (And does the cashier count their money at the register for them, because that would be extremely challenging for these women):rolleyes:

They aren't too stupid to know that they exist. They just didn't realize they exist because they have not seen in stores. It's like Greek Life in Canada. Do you know how many people at the University of Toronto don't realize that we exist (and all houses have letters on their doors)?

[AlphaFrog]

Originally posted by Taualumna
Do you know how many people at the University of Toronto don't realize that we exist (and all houses have letters on their doors)?

Now that sounds like a problem you can handle. Go out and spread the word on UofT's campus. Run along now, there's GDI's to educate.:rolleyes:

[FeeFee]

Once again, I'm CTHU @ this thread. Too dayum funny!!! :D :D

[Peaches-n-Cream]

Originally posted by Taualumna
They accept it because they don't have an alternative if they want foreign brands. If petite sizes are made more readily available, they will certainly buy petite sizes.

Here is the problem. Petite sizes are available, but women aren't buying them which is the reason department stores will shut down the petite sections. Why aren't they buying petite sizes? Maybe because they aren't fashionable. Maybe women would prefer to have an article of clothing custom made or a misses size altered to fit them perfectly.

If this is such a big problem for you, write letters to the department stores and fashion designers voicing your concern. Encourage your petite friends and relatives to do the same. You might get some satisfaction.

[Taualumna]

Originally posted by Peaches-n-Cream
Here is the problem. Petite sizes are available, but women aren't buying them which is the reason department stores will shut down the petite sections. Why aren't they buying petite sizes? Maybe because they aren't fashionable. Maybe women would prefer to have an article of clothing custom made or a misses size altered to fit them perfectly.

If this is such a big problem for you, write letters to the department stores and fashion designers voicing your concern. Encourage your petite friends and relatives to do the same. You might get some satisfaction.


This is already being done. I am starting out with the petition (see signature) and will go from there.

Again, I am really surprised by this. Would you react this way if I wore size 22? Everyone praises plus sized women for challenging the standard, but when a shorter woman does the same, THIS happens.

[PM_Mama00]

Originally posted by pinkiebell1001
Sometimes I HATE being short! AND short+fat=not good, lol. I've gotten to the point that I only buy jeans from Lane Bryant, and even their petite stuff is long on me, but It's something I can live with. One question though...do any of yall wear the L.B. flares? I have like 4 pairs of them, and for whatever reason the lighter pairs aren't as ...snug, I guess is the word I'm looking for...as the darker wash ones, at least that's the case with me. Does anyone else find that as well?

I know this post was like 100 pages ago...

LB pants are horrible. I'm 5'2 and petites are about 3-6 inches too long. I'm wearing the lighter flairs right now and they seem more snug than the darker pair. I can shrink the lighter pair and they look normal, but the darker pair just won't shrink and both are considered "stretch". Try Torrid. Their pants fit a lot better even though their capris are pretty much pants on me.

[PM_Mama00]

Originally posted by Taualumna


Again, I am really surprised by this. Would you react this way if I wore size 22? Everyone praises plus sized women for challenging the standard, but when a shorter woman does the same, THIS happens.

WTF are you talking about? We get praised? FUCK NO (excuse the language). We get made fun of even more. I don't know what planet you're living on but come back down to reality.

[ISUKappa]

Jebus. I would say it's only been in the last 50 or so years that mass-produced, mass-market clothing has been the main source of clothing for most people; prior to that people either made everything themselves or had it made/tailored to fit. Tailoring is definitely not a new concept. And I would say it's only been in the last 10 years that plus-sizes have been given more attention due to market demand (not challenging the standard as you put it).

And don't even bring Europe or Asia into the argument; their cuts and styles are completely different than what we have in the states becuase the average body type in those countries is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAVE HERE!!! If the styles from Europe fit you so well, then why don't you buy all your clothes there and quit your martyr parade?

For. Real. I could go on and on about how I can't find clothes as a tall person with big feet but I won't because I've learned to work with what I do find instead of demanding everyone change to suit my needs.

[Taualumna]

Originally posted by PM_Mama00
WTF are you talking about? We get praised? FUCK NO (excuse the language). We get made fun of even more. I don't know what planet you're living on but come back down to reality.

When you read about body/size acceptance, it is almost always about accepting a larger body size. You hardly ever hear about accepting someone who is very small. It is "more okay" to tell a very slim person (regardless of height) to "eat a cheeseburger" than it is to tell a larger person to go on a diet. Many people say that size 0 or 2 is an "unrealistic" size and they don't realize that it's just as insulting as calling someone who wears a size 12 "fat." Height-wise, short people have sometimes been mistaken for children. Don't you think it's insulting to ask a 20-something woman if she is "looking for Mommy" or being denied services, even after presenting a very real ID card?


ISUKappa: The issue here is that petite women aren't demanding petite sizes, or at least, not in department stores (the NYTimes article did say that Banana Republic seems to be doing okay with petites). Maybe we just aren't voicing enough.

ETA: Ideally, I'd like to see petite sizes in European brands. European brands may be slim enough for people who have my frame size, but the length is still missy.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally posted by Taualumna
Would you react this way if I wore size 22? Everyone praises plus sized women for challenging the standard, but when a shorter woman does the same, THIS happens.

Trust me, if you were ranting about size 22 Rudey and Bobby would be all over this thread and it would be a train-wreck.

[Taualumna]

Originally posted by AXiD670
And there's the flaw in your argument. You can't assume that the European women will buy the petite sizes just b/c they're available.

They would if they're educated about it and if the clothes look nice.

[SmartBlondeGPhB]

I have one word for you, NORDSTROM.

I have shopped there all of my 36 years of life, in the petite section and have never been disappointed except when they tried an experiment of going trendy with all of their clothes and lost most of their customers. I can buy jeans, capris, skirts, pants blouses and anything else I want and the clothes are FAR from matronly. I have found the same things there that are in the regular size section too. I've even seen Lily Pulitzer (sp?) dresses.

My only gripe is that I can rarely ever buy a dress since I'm two different sizes (bigger on top).

As has been said, Taualumna I think you're the one with the problem.

[valkyrie]

Originally posted by Taualumna
Actually not knowing about petite sizes is pretty "normal" if you are not from an English speaking country. My family is from Hong Kong and the foreign brands that are there do not come in petites (even though the average woman in Hong Kong is one inch shorter than the average woman in North America). The ladies there just accept the fact that they need alterations and have never even thought to ask for petite sizes. THIS IS WHY I THINK MORE LINES SHOULD HAVE PETITES. The market is out there, so why not enter into that market?


Goodness, now that I am aware of the mass discrimination and trauma faced by petite women from all over the world, I am enraged! I will take up the fight for my differently-heighted sisters! Here is what I will do in the United States:

I will meet with high-ranking officials of INS to discuss the possibility of implementing a petite-clothing education requirement that must be completed during the citizenship process. The packet of information to be distributed to each and every person stepping foot into this country legally will include definitions of the word "petite" in every language spoken anywhere in the world, diagrams, publications highlighting stores that carry petite clothing, glossy pocket-sized maps of major metropolitan areas with all stores that carry petite clothing highlighted, and perhaps even a teeny tiny woman who can accompany them as they begin their new lives in this country and remind them that petite clothing is available, lest they forget.

Then, I will meet with the Minutemen to see if they are amenable to distributing a condensed version of the "Petite Package" to the people they catch attempting to enter this country illegally before they are returned to Mexico. For those who do make it into the country, I will engage in a leaflet campaign in border towns and will provide weekly support groups for the petite and potentially petite immigrants. Hopefully, if we also can educate the townsfolk, they will be able to spread the word if we miss anyone.

After the website petiteangst.com is up and running, I will work to have it translated into every language and marketed in every country. I will then schedule an air-drop of computers for people in remote locations, so everyone there will be able to access the website.

Hopefully, after these programs are implemented and Petite Education becomes more widespread, we can require each and every local school district in this country to provide mandatory Petite Education starting in the second grade. We must teach children that being petite is completely normal, and alert them to the petite fashion possibilities that hopefully by then will be readily available. After children reach middle school, the Advanced Petite Education program will educate them as to the height and sizing differences between countries across the world, and provide them with a handy slide rule that will provide easy reference when attempting to convert sizes and average heights into different languages and sizing systems.

The Petite Ambassador System will appoint Petite Ambassadors to each country. The duties of Petite Ambassador will be one part foreign relations, one part education, one part personal shopping, one part design skills, and 100 parts pure sass! At this point, it is unresolved whether the Petite Ambassador will wear a sash, tiara, or both. At all times, she will be a stellar example of the best that the petite women of her country have to offer.

The Affordable Petite Clothing Initiative will require that every designer manufacturing clothing in North America or that imports clothing into North America will design at least 20% of its line for petites. Fines and other penalties will be levied on violators. In the near future, it is anticipated that other NATO countries willingly will join in the Initiative.

[mulattogyrl]

Originally posted by Taualumna
When you read about body/size acceptance, it is almost always about accepting a larger body size. You hardly ever hear about accepting someone who is very small. It is "more okay" to tell a very slim person (regardless of height) to "eat a cheeseburger" than it is to tell a larger person to go on a diet. Many people say that size 0 or 2 is an "unrealistic" size and they don't realize that it's just as insulting as calling someone who wears a size 12 "fat." Height-wise, short people have sometimes been mistaken for children. Don't you think it's insulting to ask a 20-something woman if she is "looking for Mommy" or being denied services, even after presenting a very real ID card?


ISUKappa: The issue here is that petite women aren't demanding petite sizes, or at least, not in department stores (the NYTimes article did say that Banana Republic seems to be doing okay with petites). Maybe we just aren't voicing enough.

ETA: Ideally, I'd like to see petite sizes in European brands. European brands may be slim enough for people who have my frame size, but the length is still missy.

Slim people do need to eat more cheeseburgers. They need to enjoy life. How about I'm short and chubby and don't give a damn who accepts it? I'm happy with me, ufkc everybody else.

[valkyrie]

Originally posted by Taualumna
When you read about body/size acceptance, it is almost always about accepting a larger body size. You hardly ever hear about accepting someone who is very small.

Isn't this kind of like a white person complaining that there is no movement toward white acceptance in our society? When have people who are "small" been viewed with the same -- I don't know -- judgment and lack of acceptance that is faced by larger people?

[tunatartare]

Originally posted by Taualumna
They would if they're educated about it and if the clothes look nice.
And this is where I have to respectfully disagree. I have a degree in International Business and Marketing so I know a little bit about this. Don't assume anything before you've done your market research. Just because women in America are willing to buy petite sizes, that doesn't mean that European women will be. Some cultures have a mentality of not sticking out or of not drawing attention to yourself. And while you may not believe that you are drawing attention to yourself, asking a sales clerk if the store carries anything for short people because the clothes in the store don't fit you would be considered drawing too much attention to yourself for some. There is a reason for why women would rather have clothes tailored. In addition, you have already stated that European clothes fit you better. (Mazal Tov, go shop in Europe then.) That is because they're cut and proportioned differently. If that is the case, some people might not see the point in creating a line of petites.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally posted by AXiD670
And there's the flaw in your argument. You can't assume that the European women will buy the petite sizes just b/c they're available.

Look at you, and you haven't even started law school yet.;)

[Jen]

I'm 5'6" and have trouble finding pants. Regular inseam (34") are way too long on me and petite (30") are way too short (because obviously I'm not short enough to BE petite).

No one goes out of their way to make pants for the average height but shorter legged girls.

I have exactly ONE pair of pants I bought off the rack that fit me without altering. Make me a special store! Make me a special section!

[ISUKappa]

If it's truly due to a lack of voicing by petites, why do you expect non-petite people to care? I don't expect my mother or my sisters who are all 5'4" to care that I can't find clothes to fit me (well, maybe my mom only because she can alter/make clothes for me if I need.)

Evidently some designers and stores have decided it's not cost-effective to mass-produce and sell clothes for petites. It's about business and money and following market trends and demands, not slighting the petite woman. You've said twice now that you should just design your own line of petite clothing, great! Have at it. Start your own petite boutique. Offer tailoring services. DO something (yes, I realize you've started the petition) instead of bitching and getting angry when people aren't 100% sympathetic.

They would if they're educated about it and if the clothes look nice.
How do you know this? Have you done an extensive survey? Asked one or two people? Or are you going on your personal feelings if you lived in Europe? I'm sure every major designer has done some sort of market research to learn what the demands are in the various countries they serve. If the need/demand was *truly* there, they would have acted upon it.

[ADqtPiMel]

OK, Taualumna. We get it. You are tiny and slim and fragile. Congrats!

[Taualumna]

Originally posted by KLPDaisy
That is because they're cut and proportioned differently. If that is the case, some people might not see the point in creating a line of petites.

They still won't fit me length-wise, necessarily. In terms of American stores, ATLoft is as perfect as it can get.

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally posted by ADqtPiMel
OK, Taualumna. We get it. You are tiny and slim and fragile. Congrats!

she is a delicate flower, waiting to unfold.

On a sidenote, I think I might have a cheeseburger for lunch now. Maybe it will help my legs grow so I don't have to get my pants hemmed.

[PerfectVerse06]

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The New York Times gives this film 5 stars!!

"The greatest story ever told" -- Some Random Critic

"I'd like to get in those pants!" -- Horny Pervert Who Was Spanking His Monkey in the Theater

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[ISUKappa]

Originally posted by Taualumna
They still won't fit me length-wise, necessarily. In terms of American stores, ATLoft is as perfect as it can get.
As perfect as it can get is all ANY of us can hope for.

Seriously, I think the best alternative for you is to make all your clothes. It might take a little more time in the beginning, but it's not *that* difficult.

[Taualumna]

Originally posted by KLPDaisy
And this is where I have to respectfully disagree. I have a degree in International Business and Marketing so I know a little bit about this. Don't assume anything before you've done your market research. Just because women in America are willing to buy petite sizes, that doesn't mean that European women will be. Some cultures have a mentality of not sticking out or of not drawing attention to yourself. And while you may not believe that you are drawing attention to yourself, asking a sales clerk if the store carries anything for short people because the clothes in the store don't fit you would be considered drawing too much attention to yourself for some. There is a reason for why women would rather have clothes tailored. In addition, you have already stated that European clothes fit you better. (Mazal Tov, go shop in Europe then.) That is because they're cut and proportioned differently. If that is the case, some people might not see the point in creating a line of petites.

And looking like you're an 8 year old playing dress-up in mom's clothes when you're trying something on ISN'T drawing attention to oneself? Also, if petite sizes are available in the stores, then most people will know where to find them (provided that the signs are clear).

[AlphaFrog]

Originally posted by PerfectVerse06
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The New York Times gives this film 5 stars!!

"The greatest story ever told" -- Some Random Critic

"I'd like to get in those pants!" -- Horny Pervert Who Was Spanking His Monkey in the Theater

"Taualmuna really understands how hard it is to be a petite woman in today's society"-- The One Other Woman Out There That is Just as Concerned About the 'Lack' of Petite Sizes in Stores Besides Taualumna

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The only question left is who will play Taualumna in this movie??

[AlphaFrog]

Originally posted by Taualumna
(provided that the signs are clear).

And hang low enough for the shorties to be able to see them.

[PM_Mama00]

Originally posted by Taualumna
When you read about body/size acceptance, it is almost always about accepting a larger body size. You hardly ever hear about accepting someone who is very small. It is "more okay" to tell a very slim person (regardless of height) to "eat a cheeseburger" than it is to tell a larger person to go on a diet. Many people say that size 0 or 2 is an "unrealistic" size and they don't realize that it's just as insulting as calling someone who wears a size 12 "fat." Height-wise, short people have sometimes been mistaken for children. Don't you think it's insulting to ask a 20-something woman if she is "looking for Mommy" or being denied services, even after presenting a very real ID card?


Actually my cousin deals with this all the time. Yes it bothers him, but he's not trying to start a riot about it. he's about 5'0 and very skinny. His fiance is even tinier than him. They deal with it. OH and for the few days that I saw her, she always had super cute clothes on. Then again, they live in Staten Island so I'm not sure what their clothing style is like out there.

[mulattogyrl]

Originally posted by AlphaFrog
http://images.deviantart.com/i/2002/27/b/3/I_Heart_You.jpg


The only question left is who will play Taualumna in this movie??

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[AlphaFrog]

Originally posted by mulattogyrl
http://www.tipiloschi.net/nino/ninoland/wonka_oompa_loompa.jpg

*DEAD*:D :D

[tunatartare]

Originally posted by Taualumna
ISUKappa: The issue here is that petite women aren't demanding petite sizes, or at least, not in department stores (the NYTimes article did say that Banana Republic seems to be doing okay with petites). Maybe we just aren't voicing enough.
Maybe petite women don't like to shop in department stores because the contrast of a small women in a huge store is too great and only points out just how small they are. Short woman in a small store is a much better ratio. Don't you think?

[valkyrie]

Originally posted by PerfectVerse06
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/54/Tri-Star.jpg

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TAUALUMNA IN...

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Watch as Taualumna and her friends travel the globe and help raise awareness of the plight of the petite woman. From Bangcock to Belize, Canada to Cambodia, the Netherlands to Nigeria they spread the word. And because petite clothes are so hard to find, Taualumna and her pals must share one pair of pants amongst them. The adventures each girl has in those pants are astounding! You'll be on the edge of your seats the entire time!!!

The New York Times gives this film 5 stars!!

"The greatest story ever told" -- Some Random Critic

"I'd like to get in those pants!" -- Horny Pervert Who Was Spanking His Monkey in the Theater

"Taualmuna really understands how hard it is to be a petite woman in today's society"-- The One Other Woman Out There That is Just as Concerned About the 'Lack' of Petite Sizes in Stores Besides Taualumna

Coming to a Theater Near You!!

:cool:

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Sound effect operator- PerfectVerse
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Best. Post. Ever. OMG. I love you.

[adpiucf]

Why am I still reading this thread?

[PerfectVerse06]

Originally posted by AlphaFrog
http://images.deviantart.com/i/2002/27/b/3/I_Heart_You.jpg


The only question left is who will play Taualumna in this movie??

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

I *HEART* You, too!

:D


Here's who I'm thinking of casting...

http://mud.mm-a7.yimg.com/image/2414032338

I'm sure she has trouble finding petite clothes as well.

:(

[rhochi2002]

Taualumna: Get over it or do something about it. I signed your damn petition.... but no I am thinking of removing my name from it because of the complete lack of crediablity you have.
Oh by the I am four foot eleven and no one has ever asked me if I was looking for my mom while I was shopping.:o
Everyone else: I am dying of laughter:)

[Sister Havana]

Originally posted by AlphaFrog
Or bras for that matter. It's not unusual to have a full cup size difference, but do designers care.....NNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOooooo. And what's up with the newer "Nearly A", "Nearly B" and "Nearly C" bra sizes...how about a "Nearly watermelons" for the rest of us???


OH, do not get me started on bras! If you are over a D cup, it is hard to find a cute bra. If you are over a DDD, it is almost impossible to find any bra, let alone a cute one!

[PerfectVerse06]

Originally posted by valkyrie
Best. Post. Ever. OMG. I love you.

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You all can come with me to the Academy Awards. I think we've got an Oscar winner on our hands!!!

:D

[valkyrie]

Originally posted by rhochi2002
Oh by the I am four foot eleven and no one has ever asked me if I was looking for my mom while I was shopping.:o
Everyone else: I am dying of laughter:)

Well, she does live with her mom who makes her wear pants on occasion. So she probably *IS* looking for her mom while shopping.

[tunatartare]

Originally posted by valkyrie
Well, she does live with her mom who makes her wear pants on occasion. So she probably *IS* looking for her mom while shopping.
good point

[mulattogyrl]

Originally posted by Sister Havana
OH, do not get me started on bras! If you are over a D cup, it is hard to find a cute bra. If you are over a DDD, it is almost impossible to find any bra, let alone a cute one!

Yes, bra shopping sucks.

[amycat412]

I heart valkyrie and TEH PETITE MANIFESTO

[GeekyPenguin]

I cannot get the song Short D**k Man out of my head. I am blaming this thread.

[Munchkin03]

Originally posted by valkyrie
Well, she does live with her mom who makes her wear pants on occasion. So she probably *IS* looking for her mom while shopping.

I don't even think my sister tells my nephew, who's 5 y'all, what to wear. Obviously, he wears pants...but come on. Lil' dude has more of a spine.

[amycat412]

BEST THREAD EVAH!!! I want to look away, but I just CAN'T.

[tunatartare]

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
I cannot get the song Short D**k Man out of my head. I am blaming this thread.
glad I'm not the only one

[mu_agd]

Originally posted by Munchkin03
I don't even think my sister tells my nephew, who's 5 y'all, what to wear. Obviously, he wears pants...but come on. Lil' dude has more of a spine.

Yeah, but Lil' dude has a huge, snarktastic attitude. If your sister tried to tell him what to wear, he'd probably knock her out!

[amycat412]

http://www.animationinsider.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/Cindy%20Lou%20Who--2.JPG

CindyLou Who asked the Grinch "Why are all the clothes too big? Do they think I am thick?"

[FeeFee]

Originally posted by amycat412
http://www.animationinsider.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/Cindy%20Lou%20Who--2.JPG

CindyLou Who asked the Grinch "Why are all the clothes too big? Do they think I am thick?"

OMG - I. Can't. Stand. Y'all

I'm sitting @ my desk with tears streaming down my face from laughing so hard!!!

[ISUKappa]

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
I cannot get the song Short D**k Man out of my head. I am blaming this thread.
How about a little Skee-Lo?

I wish I was a little bit taller...

[valkyrie]

Originally posted by ISUKappa
How about a little Skee-Lo?

I wish I was a little bit taller...

I go simple I go easy I go Greyhound.




Unfortunately, because I'm so tall, I don't have enough legroom while on the bus. I'm going to start a revolution.

[CrimsonTide4]

My laughter and tears started with Valkyrie's Petitetopia ;) and then Perfect Verse's movie starring Polly Pocket kicked it up a notch.

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Sister Havana]

I am surprised I haven't seen this mentioned in the thread:

Short People - Randy Newman

Short People got no reason
Short People got no reason
Short People got no reason
To live

They got little hands
Little eyes
They walk around
Tellin' great big lies
They got little noses
And tiny little teeth
They wear platform shoes
On their nasty little feet

Well, I don't want no Short People
Don't want no Short People
Don't want no Short People
`Round here

Short People are just the same
As you and I
(A Fool Such As I)
All men are brothers
Until the day they die
(It's A Wonderful World)

Short People got nobody
Short People got nobody
Short People got nobody
To love

They got little baby legs
That stand so low
You got to pick 'em up
Just to say hello
They got little cars
That go beep, beep, beep
They got little voices
Goin' peep, peep, peep
They got grubby little fingers
And dirty little minds
They're gonna get you every time
Well, I don't want no Short People
Don't want no Short People
Don't want no Short People
'Round here

(Disclaimer: I'm 5'3" and I like this song. :) )

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally posted by valkyrie
I go simple I go easy I go Greyhound.




Unfortunately, because I'm so tall, I don't have enough legroom while on the bus. I'm going to start a revolution.

Sometimes when I ride the bus and I have to stand I bump into the pole with my mammaries and it really hurts. I DEMAND that public transportation offer padded poles for those like myself.

[Peaches-n-Cream]

Originally posted by Peaches-n-Cream
Is it wrong that I am thinking of the song "Short People" by Randy Newman?

Sister Havana, I thought of it yesterday, lol!

[Sister Havana]

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
Sometimes when I ride the bus and I have to stand I bump into the pole with my mammaries and it really hurts. I DEMAND that public transportation offer padded poles for those like myself.

I resent having to stand at all. I DEMAND that there be more seats added to buses and trains. Or at least have one saved just for me!

[AlphaFrog]

What happened to Taualumna???

The plight of short people must be fought. She must stand against the oppressors. The fate of the short world rest on her coming back to inform us of how ignorant short people can't read the word "Petite" hanging over the dept. because it's just too high, and even on the tippy tippy toes cannot be seen by those who are a representative height of the oompa-loompas and the Lolly-pop Guild. For these and for the children, elderly, and little fluffy animals, she must come back and fight the opposition.

FIGHT TEH GIANTS!!

LONG LIVE TEH SMALL (minded) PEOPLE!!!

[SigKapCoug]

This is the best GC thread I have ever seen.

For the record, I'm 5', 19, and I have never shopped in the petites section.

Only now do I realize my mistake. Had I shopped there, my vertically-challenged sisters would not be suffering.

I feel horrible. I think I'm going to go lay in bed today and reflect on what consequence my thoughless actions have had.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally posted by SigKapCoug
This is the best GC thread I have ever seen.

For the record, I'm 5', 19, and I have never shopped in the petites section.

Only now do I realize my mistake. Had I shopped there, my vertically-challenged sisters would not be suffering.

I feel horrible. I think I'm going to go lay in bed today and reflect on what consequence my thoughless actions have had.

It can't be your fault. You couldn't have KNOWN that petite departments existed before this thread. But now, you can reform and unite with other petites. Maybe ya'll can even stand on eachother's shoulders so you can locate the petite department in the store.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally posted by AlphaFrog
Maybe ya'll can even stand on eachother's shoulders so you can locate the petite department in the store.

LOL.

[AlphaFrog]

This thread makes me wonder what happened to OTW??? She should have thrown in her $0.67 cents by now.

[Glitter650]

Alan Jackson likes petites. Maybe he'll join in our revolution ??


Have a little love on a little honeymoon
You got a little dish and
you got a little spoon
A little bitty house and a little bitty yard
A little bitty dog and a little bitty car

Well, it's alright to be little bitty
A little hometown or a big old city
Might as well share, might as well smile
Life goes on for a little bitty while

A little bitty baby in a little bitty gown
It'll grow up in a little bitty town
Big yellow bus and little bitty books
It all started with a little bitty look

Well, it's alright to be little bitty
A little hometown or a big old city
Might as well share, might as well smile
Life goes on for a little bitty while

You know you got a job and
a little bitty check
Six pack of beer and a television set
Little bitty world goes around and around
Little bit of silence and a little bit of sound

A good ole boy and a pretty little girl
Start all over in a little bitty world
A little bitty plan and a little bitty dream
It's all part of a little bitty scheme

It's alright to be little bitty
A little hometown or a big old city
Might as well share, might as well smile
Life goes on for a little bitty while

It's alright to be little bitty
A little hometown or a big old city
Might as well share, might as well smile
Life goes on for a little bitty while

[mulattogyrl]

Originally posted by AlphaFrog
This thread makes me wonder what happened to OTW??? She should have thrown in her $0.67 cents by now.

I was thinking about her too.

[kddani]

I had such a boring day with no internet connection at a deposition.... I am now in tears. I am SO proud of you guys! lol. This thread will live on as one of the great comedic threads of GC.

Pretty much most of the comments I had to make were already made in this thread.

I hope that some people marry a very wealthy man who can afford to have her clothes custom made for her, and she can stay at home so that her stupidity and total, utter lack of logic can be kept behind clothes doors where it belongs.

It's times like this where I really heart GC

[CrimsonTide4]

Originally posted by kddani
It's times like this where I really heart GC

I agree.:)

[kddani]

Funny thing is that the episode of What Not to Wear that's on right now has a VERY petite woman on it. 4 foot 6. She's finding things that fit her just fine. The pants need hemmed, but that's going to happen no matter what. And stuff looks GOOD on her

[CrimsonTide4]

Originally posted by kddani
Funny thing is that the episode of What Not to Wear that's on right now has a VERY petite woman on it. 4 foot 6. She's finding things that fit her just fine. The pants need hemmed, but that's going to happen no matter what. And stuff looks GOOD on her

I remember this episode!! She was very cute but she did have some horrid clothes before Stacey and Clinton worked with her. :)

[SoCalGirl]

That's because she didn't realize there was a Petite's department!

[tunatartare]

Right. Most likely because she couldn't read the sign over her head.

[honeychile]

This thread actually makes me wish I was still "speaking" to my exhusband! He continually bragged that, at 4'5 1/2", she was only a half an inch taller than a legal midget. I once asked him if that made her an illegal midget. He was not amused.

[tnxbutterfly]

Clothes shopping sucks for me. You guys think you have problems. Try this on for size

I'm 1) petite 5'2 2) have big boobs 3) have hips and 4) I've lost a lot of weight so I'm between sizes (10's are loose and 8's are a bit to tight)

[KerriMarie]

I was shopping for a Preference dress in the mall in Lynchburg, VA. I had found a dress that I liked, and asked if they had it in a size 2.

The salesperson told me that they did not carry sizes that small.

Total sizeism!!

[FeeFee]

Originally posted by honeychile
This thread actually makes me wish I was still "speaking" to my exhusband! He continually bragged that, at 4'5 1/2", she was only a half an inch taller than a legal midget. I once asked him if that made her an illegal midget. He was not amused.

Illegal midget? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
That is so wrong. :D

[PM_Mama00]

Hahahahah Today Show is doing a story on shrinking petite depts right now.

And this dumb shithead just goes "I'd probably gain weight, so I could fit into non-petite sizes". YOU ASSHEAD. Maybe TauAlumna was right and people need to be educated about petite sizes, because it's about height, not weight.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally posted by PM_Mama00

And this dumb shithead just goes "I'd probably gain weight, so I could fit into non-petite sizes".

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: DUMB.

[kddani]

Originally posted by PM_Mama00
Hahahahah Today Show is doing a story on shrinking petite depts right now.

And this dumb shithead just goes "I'd probably gain weight, so I could fit into non-petite sizes". YOU ASSHEAD. Maybe TauAlumna was right and people need to be educated about petite sizes, because it's about height, not weight.

Or maybe petite people are more likely to be ridiculously stupid? lol

[PerfectVerse06]

Originally posted by kddani
Or maybe petite people are more likely to be ridiculously stupid? lol

'Petite' refers to their IQ's, I think.

:confused:

[PM_Mama00]

Originally posted by kddani
Or maybe petite people are more likely to be ridiculously stupid? lol

Lol I'm an advocate of this answer :)

[Xylochick216]

Originally posted by KerriMarie
I was shopping for a Preference dress in the mall in Lynchburg, VA. I had found a dress that I liked, and asked if they had it in a size 2.

The salesperson told me that they did not carry sizes that small.

Total sizeism!!

Hahaha, what store? A lot of stores in Lynchburg only get a few things in smaller sizes. I should create a petition. While I'm at it, I should create one for those of us with 37 inch inseams. We don't even have our own section in stores for talls. Plus we can't get length ADDED to our clothes. It's a travesty!

[xo_kathy]

There was a "What Not to Wear" episode this weekend that had a super tiny woman on. It was the "Worst Teacher in America" epsiode.

She wasn't a dwarf, but was probably really close to it. Amazingly they found clothes that fit her perfectly with only a few alterations - even, gasp, jackets!!!! :rolleyes:

I thought of this thread when I saw her! :D

[SOPi_Jawbreaker]

Originally posted by PM_Mama00
]Hahahahah Today Show is doing a story on shrinking petite depts right now.

And this dumb shithead just goes "I'd probably gain weight, so I could fit into non-petite sizes". YOU ASSHEAD. Maybe TauAlumna was right and people need to be educated about petite sizes, because it's about height, not weight.

Originally posted by kddani
Or maybe petite people are more likely to be ridiculously stupid? lol

No, I think it's just from not eating. If these petite women (skinny mini's, as my roommate liked to say) would just eat something, then they'd be able to think clearly. :p

[Sister Havana]

This column (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chicago/chi-0606210112jun21,1,2655862.column) appeared in the Chicago Tribune today. Of course I thought of this thread when I read it. :D

[kddani]

This column (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chicago/chi-0606210112jun21,1,2655862.column) appeared in the Chicago Tribune today. Of course I thought of this thread when I read it. :D

GP needs to sit on her, too

[GeekyPenguin]

GP needs to sit on her, too

I have to work sometimes. :(

[valkyrie]

This column (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chicago/chi-0606210112jun21,1,2655862.column) appeared in the Chicago Tribune today. Of course I thought of this thread when I read it. :D

People are jacked. You can call "petite" "Reese Witherspoon" or you can call a monkey "President" but that doesn't change what it is, so get the hell over it.

[tunatartare]

I don't think a Vertically Challenged section would do nearly as well.

[kddani]

People are jacked. You can call "petite" "Reese Witherspoon" or you can call a monkey "President" but that doesn't change what it is, so get the hell over it.


I also didn't see her give any alternatives as to what the section should be called. If she is that bothered by a single word, that isn't derogatory or offensive, then really, she's got problems. And what a great argument without giving suggestions? How about Midgets R Us? Shorties? The munchkin section? Really, WTF is wrong with the word petite?

[tunatartare]

Oompa Loompa Fashions?
Liliput Universe?
Dwarf Department?

all possible

[GeekyPenguin]

Whiny Midgets Who Can't Find a Man?

[tunatartare]

also acceptable

[33girl]

I also didn't see her give any alternatives as to what the section should be called. If she is that bothered by a single word, that isn't derogatory or offensive, then really, she's got problems. And what a great argument without giving suggestions? How about Midgets R Us? Shorties? The munchkin section? Really, WTF is wrong with the word petite?

Who is old enough to remember when the girls' section in Sears had a "Chubby" department which was then changed to "Pretty-Plus"?

I'm sorry, but those are both a heck of a lot more offensive than petite.

[GeekyPenguin]

Who is old enough to remember when the girls' section in Sears had a "Chubby" department which was then changed to "Pretty-Plus"?

I'm sorry, but those are both a heck of a lot more offensive than petite.

But you CAN HELP being fat.

You can't help being petite and beautiful. :(

[kddani]

But you CAN HELP being fat.

You can't help being petite and beautiful. :(


Wait? When did beauty come into this? There's some really ugly short people out there!

Since the complaint is also that the petite clothing section has matronly clothes, I think that "Shorties under 40" would be an appropriate name.

[GeekyPenguin]

Wait? When did beauty come into this? There's some really ugly short people out there!

Since the complaint is also that the petite clothing section has matronly clothes, I think that "Shorties under 40" would be an appropriate name.

Too bad it's not shorties drinking 40s.

[AlphaFrog]

You can't help being petite and beautiful. :(

That's nothing a pair of 5" stilettos and some blue eyeshadow couldn't take care of.;)

[GeekyPenguin]

That's nothing a pair of 5" stilettos and some blue eyeshadow couldn't take care of.;)

Thank you Mimi.

[Rollergirl2001]

If you're 5'4", you ought to be lucky. I'm 5'2.5"-5'3", and it's a pain in the derrierre to find pants and jeans that is the right length. Capris and gaucho pants are the way to go for me despite making my leg length look shorter. However, I'm used to the fact of getting my pants/jeans altered.

Even the shortest inseam that I buy at Alloy of 30" can't fit me. But hey, I'm used to it. 30" fits people that are about 5'4" and if you're shorter than that, you better have long legs.

33girl, I agree. "Chubby" for a girls plus department store is offensive. And what does "pretty plus" mean? Pretty heavy?

[Peaches-n-Cream]

Who is old enough to remember when the girls' section in Sears had a "Chubby" department which was then changed to "Pretty-Plus"?

I'm sorry, but those are both a heck of a lot more offensive than petite.

I agree. I don't remember a "Chubby" department, but I was tall and lanky. I do remember husky for the boys.

[AUAZD2001]

OH, do not get me started on bras! If you are over a D cup, it is hard to find a cute bra. If you are over a DDD, it is almost impossible to find any bra, let alone a cute one!

I have the very difficult problem of having a large cup size (G or DDDD) and a small band size (36). I could never find a bra that fit me right and I was always wearing the wrong bra size (did you know that 85% of women are wearing the wrong bra size?) until I discovered Intamacy, a lingerie boutique with stores in Atlanta, Chicago and New York. (The were even featured on the Oprah Winfrey Show for Oprah's Bra and Jean intervention). They have bras to fit all women, and if they can't get you the perfect ffit, they will taylor the bra to fit you perfectly.

www.myintimacy.com

But please don't get me started on finding a bathing suit that looks descent on me. I have not been able to find ANY swimsuit that has enough coverage and support to make me look half way descent. I jsut do NOT go swimming, and i hate it because I know that I am missing out on a lot of good times.

[AlphaFrog]

I have the very difficult problem of having a large cup size (G or DDDD) and a small band size (36).


Dang...I bet you paid a pretty penny for those.

[tunatartare]

I have the very difficult problem of having a large cup size (G or DDDD) and a small band size (36). I could never find a bra that fit me right and I was always wearing the wrong bra size (did you know that 85% of women are wearing the wrong bra size?) until I discovered Intamacy, a lingerie boutique with stores in Atlanta, Chicago and New York. (The were even featured on the Oprah Winfrey Show for Oprah's Bra and Jean intervention). They have bras to fit all women, and if they can't get you the perfect ffit, they will taylor the bra to fit you perfectly.

www.myintimacy.com

But please don't get me started on finding a bathing suit that looks descent on me. I have not been able to find ANY swimsuit that has enough coverage and support to make me look half way descent. I jsut do NOT go swimming, and i hate it because I know that I am missing out on a lot of good times.
I feel your pain. I'm a 32DDD/F and I hate it. My bras cost more than my outfits. I really want to get the surgery.

[adpiucf]

But please don't get me started on finding a bathing suit that looks descent on me. I have not been able to find ANY swimsuit that has enough coverage and support to make me look half way descent. I jsut do NOT go swimming, and i hate it because I know that I am missing out on a lot of good times.

I have the same problem. Why can't the fashion industry make clothes for people with smaller frames and big breasts? No matter how much money I end up spending on a swim suit, they don't fit properly. I'm too embarrassed to go out there and risk my top coming off in the middle of a water volleyball game or wave jumping at the beach!

[AlphaFrog]

I'm too embarrassed to go out there and risk my top coming off in the middle of a water volleyball game or wave jumping at the beach!


But adpiucf, I thought that's how us proper sorority girls were supposed to meet guys!!;)

[tunatartare]

I know that you met your husband while pole dancing at Scores, but not all girls have to resort to such tactics.

[AlphaFrog]

I know that you met your husband while pole dancing at Scores, but not all girls have to resort to such tactics.


There are no strip joints in Macomb, IL....


/I met him at the diner on the town square.

[tunatartare]

Funny, he tells a very different version of the same story.

[AlphaFrog]

Funny, he tells a very different version of the same story.

Then you need a new pocket Spanish dictionary...caz you got lost in translation somewhere.

[tunatartare]

He told me the story in perfect English.

[AlphaFrog]

He told me the story in perfect English.

My husband doesn't speak English to Russians. Especially Jewish ones. He's against the commies.:p

[tunatartare]

Your husband:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/42/Speedy.jpg/200px-Speedy.jpg

[AlphaFrog]

You boyfriend:
http://poplicks.com/images/ugly-guy.jpg

Also known as your ex-coworker. (That's why he had to leave, no office romances)

[tunatartare]

Can we please not put salt in my wounds. I've been crying all morning staring at his empty desk knowing that there's now an empty hole in my heart.

[adpiucf]

That's hot.

[blueangel]

Getting back to the original topic (WOW.. Talk about thread drift!)

A petition won't help, but if we petite-type-women all take the time to write to each chain's general headquarters, it might have some impact.

Also.. money talks. If those of us who are petite sized stop buying regular sized clothing and having them tailored at our own expense, the stores might get the message. Just say NO to tailoring!

Have you also noticed that some of the petite sizes have grown? Eddie Bauer and some pants at Bloomingdales now have a 30 inch inseam that they call "Petite", NOT the normal 28! UGH!

[AUAZD2001]

Dang...I bet you paid a pretty penny for those.

No, all natural.

I feel your pain. I'm a 32DDD/F and I hate it. My bras cost more than my outfits. I really want to get the surgery.

I actually am quite pleased with the size of my breasts. I wouldn't resort to painful and risky surgery just to buy clothes off the rack.

I have the problem of button-up shirts popping open between the buttons. But I have a clever solution: I cut a piece of double sided toupe tape and stick it between where it is popping open. You can buy the toupe take at Sally's Beauty Supply, or other beauty supply stores.

[tunatartare]

No, all natural.



I actually am quite pleased with the size of my breasts. I wouldn't resort to painful and risky surgery just to buy clothes off the rack.

I have the problem of button-up shirts popping open between the buttons. But I have a clever solution: I cut a piece of double sided toupe tape and stick it between where it is popping open. You can buy the toupe take at Sally's Beauty Supply, or other beauty supply stores.
Thanks for the great idea.

I have chronic back problems from an accident about nine years ago and having large breasts doesn't help any.