Post your tartan

[PhoenixAzul]

Well, my mom's family is considered "Ulster Scot" (scotch irish). She's a mix of Cumming (her dad) and Stewart (her mom). Since I'm living in Ulster (Northern Ireland), about an hour from Scotland, I'm planning on spending half-term (spring break) in Scotland doing a wee bit of backpacking. I thought a great gift to bring back would be some tartan of both clans for my mom and my grandfather. I would love for my pop to wear a kilt to my wedding but I doubt it will happen.

So, if you are Scotch or Ulster Scot, post your family tartan!

Cumming
(cumming hunting ancient)
http://clan.com/clan_images/tartans/hedga_mw838.jpg

Stewart
(stewart hunting)
http://clan.com/clan_images/tartans/ibuch_510.jpg

[adpiucf]

I couldn't resist...



http://www.3m.com/us/home_leisure/scotchgard/images/ph_carpet_protect.gif


http://www.3m.com/brands/scotch/scotchtape/images/art/scotch_sm_magic.gif

;)

[Lady Pi Phi]

This is my Tartan

http://clan.com/tartanfinder.html?search_tartan=Austin:disp=search :id=c6xuzrHD

[bcdphie]

MacKinnon (of Skye) - my family clan

Dress
http://www.scotlandonline.com/heritage/tartans2/Tartans/wr1167r.gif

Hunting
http://www.scotlandonline.com/heritage/tartans2/Tartans/wr917r.gif

Blackstock - married name

Dress
http://www.scotlandonline.com/heritage/tartans2/Tartans/wr1881r.gif

Hunting
http://www.scotlandonline.com/heritage/tartans2/Tartans/wr1120r.gif

[alum]

I have no tartans for my family however.....

Behold the Carnegie tartan, the official fabric of Carnegie Mellon University! We use the Carnegie Ancient (top one). Our school teams are called the Tartans and our school crest is the stylized thistle (similar to the one in the link below) superimposed over a Carnegie tartan circle.

http://clan.com/tartanfinder.html?search_clan=%27Carnegie%27

[MysticCat]

Originally posted by PhoenixAzul
So, if you are Scotch or Ulster Scot, post your family tartan!Many thanks for using Ulster Scots rather than Scotch-Irish, but, please, Scots or Scottish, not Scotch. Scotch is something you drink (whiskey) or eat (Scotch eggs). People are Scots or Scottish.

McLeod of Harris:
http://www.your-uk.com/images/clans/200/macleod.jpg

[bcdphie]

My husband's family is from Northern Ireland, but are of Scottish decent. The only problem is, I find most people have no clue what I am talking about why I say Ulster, and it is such a mouthfull to say Northern Irish. And it gets more confusing to say they are Irish, but not Republican Irish.

I like that term, Ulster-Scot.

[MysticCat]

Originally posted by bcdphie
And it gets more confusing to say they are Irish, but not Republican Irish.Indeed, not Irish at all. They are descendants of Scots who settled in Ulster, but the Scots and the Irish (and the English) all kept pretty much to themselves in northern Ireland.

[honeychile]

My main tartan is the Hunter clan, and this is the modern tartan:

http://scotlandshop.net/images/swatches/h/hunter-modern.jpg

We are a sept under the Royal Stewart Clan:

Ancient Stewart:
http://clan.com/clan_images/tartans/80x80/hedga_mws2394.jpg

Modern Stewart:
http://clan.com/clan_images/tartans/80x80/lochc_str_m.jpg

So those are the major tartans I can wear (legitimately).

[BetteDavisEyes]

My husband's mom side of the family hail from Scotland so he's half Scot. I have seen their family tartan as they are Clan Montgomery but have no picture to share. I did go to his cousins wedding where all the men wore their kilts & it was a lot of fun! :)

[lifesaver]

I am half ulster-scots.

I have never researched the family tartan. I am sure its there. The family was very proud of being scottish.

There is also a Texas Tartan. The offical Tartan of the state of Texas, and is called "Bluebonnet"

http://www.district-tartans.com/texas.jpg

[JenMarie]

MacGregor:
http://clan.com/tartanfinder.html?search_clan=%27MacGregor%27

http://clan.com/clan_images/tartans/lochc_mg_a.jpg

Modern

http://clan.com/clan_images/tartans/lochc_mg_a.jpg

Ancient

[bcdphie]

Originally posted by lifesaver
There is also a Texas Tartan. The offical Tartan of the state of Texas, and is called "Bluebonnet"

We have the same thing here, North of the 49th - Canada has an official tartan, as does each Province and Territory (except Nunavat).

http://www.pch.gc.ca/progs/cpsc-ccsp/images/tartans.jpg

http://www.pch.gc.ca/progs/cpsc-ccsp/images/tartan_legend.gif

1.Maple leaf *
2. Newfoundland *
3. Prince Edward Island
4. Nova Scotia
5. New Brunswick
6. Quebec *
7. Ontario
8. Manitoba
9. Saskatchewan
10. Alberta
11.British Columbia
12. Northwest Territories
13. Yukon *

* not official tartans


British Columbia

The province's tartan was designed by Earl K. Ward of Victoria and officially approved by the British Columbia Centennial Committee for the 1966-67 Centenaries. Represented in the design are the blue of the Pacific Ocean, the green of the forests, the red of the maple leaf, the white of the dogwood floral emblem, and the gold of the crown and sun in the provincial arms.

[aephi alum]

Originally posted by MysticCat81
McLeod of Harris:
http://www.your-uk.com/images/clans/200/macleod.jpg

Me too! :D Only it's MacLeod ;)

[honeychile]

Some bits and pieces:

-I went to a wedding this summer with the groom and the bagpiper in kilts. The women in front of us were whispering how disgusting it was that the tartans didn't match! I wanted to smack the one particularly obnoxious one, and explain that one ONLY wears one's own tartan!! And at about $600 a kilt, there's good sense to that!

-One of my favorite professors wrote his name on the blackboard on the first day of class: Macleod. He then said, "Whomever can first tell me how to pronounce my name correctly will have their grade raised one letter up." Lots of hands went up, but I won: Mack-Cloud. Thank you, fellow Scotsmen!!

-The Scottish crests and tartans are of the very few nationalities which legitimately allows married women to keep their own tartan & crest. One can wear 5-6 tartans at the same time, if you have that many Scottish lineages. You can see that mix in both Rob Roy and Braveheart.

-The first time I went to a Clan Gathering, my mother & I were given pins which were our Clan insignia - emphasis that they were NOT our crests, but our Clan insignia. Our crest is on a dagger, about 4-5" long, and no, I cannot wear it on a plane! But the first time I wore it to church, my pastor (whose family is also Southern) said, "That's an interesting pin - what is it?" I proudly said, "That's my Clan insignia!" He looked hard at me and exclaimed, "You're in the Klan?!" We still laugh about that!

-Women do not wear kilts, men do. Women wear a badge of the tartan, or a sash. This is a good thing for women, as a well made kilt costs upward of $600!!

-If you'd like to see your tartan, just put "(Your Scots Surname)* tartan" in a search engine, and chances are, you'll find it! I only know about the sept (branch) and clan because of genealogy.

-People are not Scottish, they are Scots. Items they own are Scottish.

[DolphinChicaDDD]

I can't find my tartan online! :( I've seen that look familar but none like the one hanging in my grandfather's house.

[aephi alum]

Originally posted by honeychile
-Women do not wear kilts, men do. Women wear a badge of the tartan, or a sash. This is a good thing for women, as a well made kilt costs upward of $600!!

And that's before you start on the accessories!

Women can wear kilt skirts. They are made from the same material as kilts, and look something not quite unlike a kilt, but they are cut for a woman's body, use less material, and are generally less expensive (but can still run around $400). But I believe the kilt skirt is a relatively new idea.

Side note: With certain exceptions, when a man wears a kilt, he does not wear underwear.

[honeychile]

Originally posted by aephi alum


Side note: With certain exceptions, when a man wears a kilt, he does not wear underwear.
Yeah, baby!

(I was kinda chicken to post that!)

[RACooper]

Well... my tartan is a little interesting:

Cooper/Couper - Loyalist/Protestant:
http://www.scotlandonline.com/heritage/tartans2/Tartans/wr74r.gif
Ancient is the same with some orange/yellow added in the thinner verticle bands between the white verticle lines.

Made by members that joined the Orange Order, in order to have a 'Protestant' kilt, instead of the one associated with the Couper's that fought for the Stewart's, and on the side of the Catholic Church during the Bishop's War.

But enough about them, onto the 'proper' tartans that I wear ;)

Cooper/Couper - Catholic/Jacobite 'Modern'
http://www.lindaclifford.com/Images/Cooper.jpg

Cooper/Couper - Catholic/Jacobute 'Ancient'
http://www.cadadh.co.uk/images-tartan/cooper_a.jpg

As you can see even the tartans in my family tell a little story - or at least show who sided with who during '45.

[honeychile]

Originally posted by RACooper
Well... my tartan is a little interesting:

Cooper/Couper - Loyalist/Protestant:
http://www.scotlandonline.com/heritage/tartans2/Tartans/wr74r.gif
Ancient is the same with some orange/yellow added in the thinner verticle bands between the white verticle lines.

Made by members that joined the Orange Order, in order to have a 'Protestant' kilt, instead of the one associated with the Couper's that fought for the Stewart's, and on the side of the Catholic Church during the Bishop's War.

But enough about them, onto the 'proper' tartans that I wear ;)

Cooper/Couper - Catholic/Jacobite 'Modern'
http://www.lindaclifford.com/Images/Cooper.jpg

Cooper/Couper - Catholic/Jacobute 'Ancient'
http://www.cadadh.co.uk/images-tartan/cooper_a.jpg

As you can see even the tartans in my family tell a little story - or at least show who sided with who during '45.
RACooper, they are beautiful!!! Don't get me wrong, I love mine, but wow!!

aephialum, I know that some women do wear kilts, but as you noted, it's not historically correct. The Clan Gatherings I've been to get a little testy about them, with the exception of a kilt in which to dance. I'd [i]love/i] to be able to afford a proper kitting out!

[Beryana]

Okay, so I still have to do some more research on the lineage aspect of it (Honeychile, if you want to help with that one I'd be happy to accept! ;) ), but my 4xGreat-grandmother's maiden name is Sinclair so I am only assuming someone from that line is from Scotland! If so, here is a link to the tartans (can't figure out how to do the picture thing!) Sinclair tartans (http://clan.com/tartanfinder.html?search_clan=%27Sinclair%27:id=Fp zBSJoo)

Sarah

[preciousjeni]

Where are y'all finding these? If you could find the ones for Kirkpatrick...that's me!

[MysticCat]

Originally posted by aephi alum
Me too! :D Only it's MacLeod ;) True that MacLeod is the predominant spelling (and the one used by the MacLeod of MacLeod). Variants are McLeod and Macleod, among others. "Mac" is usually preferred in Scotland, although technically "Mac" and "Mc" are interchangeable. I heard one time that "Mac" is more common among Highland Scots and "Mc" is more common among Lowland and Ulster-Scots, but that may be urban legend.

We're a sept of Clan MacLeod, not MacLeods proper.
Originally posted by honeychile
The first time I went to a Clan Gathering, my mother & I were given pins which were our Clan insignia - emphasis that they were NOT our crests, but our Clan insignia.Well of course not, since only the Chief of a clan may wear the crest. Everyone else wears a badge, the crest surrounded by a belt with the clan motto on it. This demonstrates loyalty to the Chief.

The Badge of Clan MacLeod:
http://www.scotsconnection.com/uploads/images_products_large/848.jpg

[Optimist Prime]

http://www.cadadh.co.uk/images-tartan/campbell_a.jpg

Clan Campbell, which is the one I identify with.

[alum]

Is it time to eat haggis? Yummy!

[MysticCat]

I love haggis -- really, I do. A little Scotch to wash it down, and I'm there.

[MysticCat]

Originally posted by preciousjeni
Where are y'all finding these? If you could find the ones for Kirkpatrick...that's me! From what I can track down, Kirkpatrick is a sept of Clan Colquhoun.

The tartan of Clan Colquhoun:
http://www.loch-lomond.net/images/colquhountartan.gif

ETA: A sept is a family that has been absorbed into or come under the protection of a clan and, being loyal to the chief of that clan, is entitled to wear the tartan, badge, etc., of that clan.

[preciousjeni]

Originally posted by MysticCat81
From what I can track down, Kirkpatrick is a sept of Clan Colquhoun.

The tartan of Clan Colquhoun:
http://www.loch-lomond.net/images/colquhountartan.gif Thanks! :D

[honeychile]

Originally posted by Beryana
Okay, so I still have to do some more research on the lineage aspect of it (Honeychile, if you want to help with that one I'd be happy to accept! ;) ), but my 4xGreat-grandmother's maiden name is Sinclair so I am only assuming someone from that line is from Scotland! If so, here is a link to the tartans (can't figure out how to do the picture thing!) Sinclair tartans (http://clan.com/tartanfinder.html?search_clan=%27Sinclair%27:id=Fp zBSJoo)

Sarah
*perks up*

Sinclair?? From where? What first names? Also, you can look up St. Clair or Sinkler.

Modern Sinclair Dress Tartan
http://www.clansinclairusa.org/images/SinclairRed.jpg

Sinclair Modern Hunting Green
http://www.clansinclairusa.org/images/SinclairGrHtg.jpg

[Beryana]

Originally posted by honeychile
*perks up*

Sinclair?? From where? What first names? Also, you can look up St. Clair or Sinkler.


What info I have is Adeline Sinclair b 29 Dec 1812 in Mount Holly, VT (married Presby Mudge in 1833 in Plymouth, VT). She is the daughter of Daniel Sinclair b about 1786 and Charlotte Hubbard b 11 Aug 1738 in Chesterfield, NH d 9 Feb 1848 (married 9 Mar 1812 in New Hampshire).

I haven't checked other spellings yet - but will be (been working on another line but that one is just causing headaches right now!)

Sarah

[BSP_Nicole]

Okay, I've got the picts saved, but I don't know how to post them... Can someone help me?

[honeychile]

Originally posted by BSP_Nicole
Okay, I've got the picts saved, but I don't know how to post them... Can someone help me?

Quick tutorial:

-Find the photo you want.
-RIGHT click on the photo, and a menu should pop up.
-Click on Properties.
-Scroll down to where it says "Address". It should end in .jpg or .bmp
-Copy it by hitting both Ctrl & c at the same time.
-Go to where you want to post the picture.
-Type in , then type both Ctrl & v at the same time (this should paste the address in that spot), then type .
-You can check to make sure you have it by Previewing prior to posting, but it should work!

[MysticCat]

Originally posted by BSP_Nicole
Okay, I've got the picts savedI can't let this pass. "Picts" in a thread about things Scottish. :D

[aephi alum]

Originally posted by MysticCat81
I love haggis -- really, I do. A little Scotch to wash it down, and I'm there.

Haggis = barf. I may be part Scottish but I just can't get my head around the idea of eating what's in haggis.

Scotch = pass the bottle! ;)

[honeychile]

Mystic Cat - I was going to comment, but I thought it was meant as a double entrendre. If it is, it's a good one!

aephialum - ditto. I have some good Scottish friends, who decided that I really needed to enjoy haggis. I was really embarrassed when I puked over the smell!!

[RACooper]

Originally posted by honeychile
aephialum - ditto. I have some good Scottish friends, who decided that I really needed to enjoy haggis. I was really embarrassed when I puked over the smell!!

Don't worry about it... it's a common joke that the haggis was based on a scotch-fueled drunken dare :p

Unfortunately I managed to miss Robbie Burns this year ~ but thankfully the Celtic Studies department is hosting a single malt workshop/taste-testing in a couple of weeks... so I'll make up for it :D

[bcdphie]

I had my annual dose of haggis at the usual Burns Dinner I attend. I don't mind it at all; and my husband and brother love the stuff. The only problem with the one this year, however, there wasn't enough gravy to take away the severe dryness...

It really isn't that bad. If you like stuffing, you'll like Haggis.

In Canada you can't serve "real" haggis, i.e. you aren't allowed to prepare and serve it in a sheep's stomach. Not sure if it's the same in the US.

Burns Night @ VRC (http://spaces.msn.com/pooley/blog/cns!DB6B19BECD846ADA!309.entry)

[kstar]

Here (http://www.cplx.net/SHAW/tartan.htm)

There is a detailed explanation of the various shaw tartans. There is also a hunting tartan that does not appear on that page.

[BSP_Nicole]

Originally posted by honeychile
Mystic Cat - I was going to comment, but I thought it was meant as a double entrendre. If it is, it's a good one!


Nope, sorry, I just meant pictures... I have no idea what you two are talking about otherwise...

[BSP_Nicole]

Ok, I personally have no Scottish blood, but my husband's family does:


MacArthur:

http://www.lindaclifford.com/Images/MacArthurOC.jpg


Morrison:

http://www.lindaclifford.com/Images/Morrison.jpg



When we lived in WV, my hubby was in the West Virginia Highlanders (http://www.wvhighlanders.org). Their tartan was the MacLeod of Lewis Dress tartan (which I personally think is beautiful!).

http://www.lindaclifford.com/Images/MacLeodDr.jpg

He bought a Morrison clan kilt pin to wear:

http://www.houseoftartan.co.uk/scottish/itm_img/kp117.jpg


P.S.: Thanks Honeychile for the picture posting help!

[honeychile]

Originally posted by BSP_Nicole


P.S.: Thanks Honeychile for the picture posting help!
You're welcome! We have that in our Forum, should you need it again!

Also, you are entitled to wear your husband's tartans, since you are married to him. :) I have a few others I could wear, but I tend to stick to the three I showed.

(The Picts were the people of prehistoric Britain!)

[Beryana]

Honeychile-
It would be okay for me to wear the Sinclair tartan, right? This is assuming that I am able to trace the Sinclair line back to Scotland and not somewhere else. Does it matter the Sinclairname is about 6 Generations back? I'm thinking of adding something about the Sinclairs into my Civil War reenacting persona and that is based on my 3xgreat-grandmother (whose mother's maiden name is Sinclair).

Sarah

[aephi alum]

I was looking around for other MacLeod tartans (there are a few, including the MacLeod of Lewis that BSP_Nicole posted, which I happen to detest - yellow is so not my color :p ) - Anyway, I found this:

Crest Cross Stitch (http://www.scotclans.com/shopping/MC-C01.html)

I may just have to get it. Unfortunately I can't figure out if they'll ship to the US...

[PhoenixAzul]

I had haggis for the first time last weekend. It was DELICIOUS. It tastes nothing like what you think it would. It's quite spicy and very tasty. Seriously, you just have to not think about it too much.

ETA: Badge of Clan Cumming
http://houseoftartan.co.uk/clan/badge/smline/cb029.gif

[honeychile]

Originally posted by Beryana
Honeychile-
It would be okay for me to wear the Sinclair tartan, right? This is assuming that I am able to trace the Sinclair line back to Scotland and not somewhere else. Does it matter the Sinclairname is about 6 Generations back? I'm thinking of adding something about the Sinclairs into my Civil War reenacting persona and that is based on my 3xgreat-grandmother (whose mother's maiden name is Sinclair).

Sarah
That's the beauty of SCOTS genealogy - once a Sinclair, always a Sinclair! In most cultures, once a woman marries, she is no longer entitled to wear or use her maiden name's crest or whatever!

I have my Elizabeth Sinclair back to Philly around 1710 - married to a Robert Hunter. Any luck of our being related? ;)

[CougADPi]

Fergusson Modern
http://www.lindaclifford.com/Images/Ferguson.jpg

Fergusson Ancient
http://www.lindaclifford.com/Images/FergusonOC.jpg

Fergusson Crest
http://www.scotclans.com/img/Fergusson/crest.gif

And yes, it FERGUSSON not Ferguson. Its very important! :-D

[BSP_Nicole]

Originally posted by aephi alum
I was looking around for other MacLeod tartans (there are a few, including the MacLeod of Lewis that BSP_Nicole posted, which I happen to detest - yellow is so not my color :p ) -

This site (http://www.lindaclifford.com/MacLeod.html) has 5 MacLeod tartans, you might want to give it a look.

(Yellow is my favorite color, so that might be why I love the MacLeod of Lewis dress tartan - wish I had the lineage to wear it!) ;)

[Beryana]

Originally posted by honeychile
That's the beauty of SCOTS genealogy - once a Sinclair, always a Sinclair! In most cultures, once a woman marries, she is no longer entitled to wear or use her maiden name's crest or whatever!

I have my Elizabeth Sinclair back to Philly around 1710 - married to a Robert Hunter. Any luck of our being related? ;)

How wonderful that I can still wear the tartan! :)

I'm not sure if we are related - though I'm sure we are if we go back far enough. I have only been able to trace my Sinclairs back to about 1786 New Hampshire/Vermont and here is where I am stuck! I may have possibly found a sibling of Daniel Sinclair but I'm not certain as that area of New England had quite a few Scots - kind of like central Wisconsin and Poles. LOL

Sarah

[aephi alum]

Originally posted by BSP_Nicole
This site (http://www.lindaclifford.com/MacLeod.html) has 5 MacLeod tartans, you might want to give it a look.

(Yellow is my favorite color, so that might be why I love the MacLeod of Lewis dress tartan - wish I had the lineage to wear it!) ;)

Ooh, I like that MacLeod Red! :)

Thanks!

[honeychile]

Originally posted by CougADPi
Fergusson Modern
http://www.lindaclifford.com/Images/Ferguson.jpg

Fergusson Ancient
http://www.lindaclifford.com/Images/FergusonOC.jpg

Fergusson Crest
http://www.scotclans.com/img/Fergusson/crest.gif

And yes, it FERGUSSON not Ferguson. Its very important! :-D
Beautiful tartans!

FYI - the first rule of genealogy is that, since spelling was only standardized about 200 years ago, names that are similar are often the same. Hence, Soundex! (http://www.ics.uci.edu/~dan/genealogy/Miller/javascrp/soundex.htm) It's a system which allows you to trace names more easily. In fact, I've often said that, if I ever get a tatoo, it will be Soundex, on my one hand!

One of my other names I trace is McCullough. There are 28 ways of spelling McCullough. Had I ignored the other 27, I would not have been able to get as far back as I have!

[/lecture!]

[honeychile]

Originally posted by Beryana
How wonderful that I can still wear the tartan! :)

I'm not sure if we are related - though I'm sure we are if we go back far enough. I have only been able to trace my Sinclairs back to about 1786 New Hampshire/Vermont and here is where I am stuck! I may have possibly found a sibling of Daniel Sinclair but I'm not certain as that area of New England had quite a few Scots - kind of like central Wisconsin and Poles. LOL

Sarah
*gets Patriot Index*

There are 33 Sinclair-Sinkler-St. Clair-St. Clare's in there. I can see that a LOT of them are in NH/VT!! I have the fun of my ancestors being completely schizophrenic, and filing in VA - even the ones who lived in PA! It depends on which side of the Alleghenies they were on at the time! Most of the Sinclares - so far - have been in PA, though.

[Beryana]

Originally posted by honeychile
*gets Patriot Index*

There are 33 Sinclair-Sinkler-St. Clair-St. Clare's in there. I can see that a LOT of them are in NH/VT!! I have the fun of my ancestors being completely schizophrenic, and filing in VA - even the ones who lived in PA! It depends on which side of the Alleghenies they were on at the time! Most of the Sinclares - so far - have been in PA, though.

Well, I have the birth certificate (well, almost) for Adeline Sinclair in Mount Holly, Rutland, VT and her parent's marriage certificate (once again, almost) from NH - probably Chesterfield as that is where Charlotte Hubbard is from.

I checked at least the online Patriot Index and this branch (Sinclair-Mudge) has at least two more ancestors. John Mudge (husband of Hannah Hutchinson) and Ephraim Hubbard (husband to Lucy Willard). Does the hard copy of the Patriot index list children? If so, could you see if there is a Daniel Sinclair listed as a kid (b 1786, d after 1840)?

You rock! :)

Sarah

[honeychile]

No, the Patriot Index doesn't show children. There's a Daniel b. in 1759, m. isabella Auchmuty d.1835, but he's in PA.

What was the other Daniel's parent's father's name? I should warn you, that's one of the major bonuses about being at my mother's house - she has THE most extensive genealogical library of any non-professional I know!

[honeychile]

Since you're researching Scottish ancestors, chances are good that they were Presbyterian. Most of the Presbyterian churches across the country have been opening their records for genealogists! In fact, I have found four generations in one church's records!

[Beryana]

Originally posted by honeychile
No, the Patriot Index doesn't show children. There's a Daniel b. in 1759, m. isabella Auchmuty d.1835, but he's in PA.

What was the other Daniel's parent's father's name? I should warn you, that's one of the major bonuses about being at my mother's house - she has THE most extensive genealogical library of any non-professional I know!

That's the problem - I don't know what my Daniel Sinclair's father's name is. I don't have his birth record (yet) and, this is something I really shouldn't be saying, but I can't remember where I got his birth year from! I have him in the 1820 census in Mount Holly, Rutland, VT and his marriage certificate is from New Hampshire in 1812. That's about it. :(

Sarah

[honeychile]

Originally posted by Beryana
That's the problem - I don't know what my Daniel Sinclair's father's name is. I don't have his birth record (yet) and, this is something I really shouldn't be saying, but I can't remember where I got his birth year from! I have him in the 1820 census in Mount Holly, Rutland, VT and his marriage certificate is from New Hampshire in 1812. That's about it. :(

Sarah
I wish I knew more about New England - that's one line I haven't traced well yet.

Hint: go to Fun Stuff For Genealogists (www.funstuffforgenealogists.com) and order their informational post-it notes. They are WONDERFUL!!! The one lineage society I'm in does ask where you found the info, the date you found it, etc. and these are a godsend! Plus, there's a million other things you'll just have to have, once you see it!!

http://www.funstuffforgenealogists.com/store/media/cite-your-source.jpg

I have this, as I don't like to guess at acres, etc while researching:
http://www.funstuffforgenealogists.com/store/media/clipboard.jpg

Plus, I've met a few other addicts while wearing my "Genealogy - Life in the Past Lane" shirt!

[Beryana]

Originally posted by honeychile
I wish I knew more about New England - that's one line I haven't traced well yet.


Well, if you would like me to do some searching up there for you, let me know. While not there physically, I am a member of the New England Genealogical and Historical Society (http://www.newenglandancestors.org) and have found some great info about a few of my lines - since everyone so far has lived no further south than MA (well, at least before the moved to Wisconsin!)!

Okay, so to at least pretend to bring our hijack back on topic. . . . .

http://clan.com/clan_images/tartans/dcdal_dress_sinclair.jpg
This is another favorite Sinclair Tartan - it's the dress tartan.

Sarah

[MysticCat]

Originally posted by BSP_Nicole
This site (http://www.lindaclifford.com/MacLeod.html) has 5 MacLeod tartans, you might want to give it a look.

(Yellow is my favorite color, so that might be why I love the MacLeod of Lewis dress tartan - wish I had the lineage to wear it!) ;) The MacLeod of Harris/Modern Hunting MacLeod tartan (and its hunting and muted variations):
http://www.lindaclifford.com/Images/MacLeodHtg.jpg

and the Dress/MacLeod of Lewis
http://www.lindaclifford.com/Images/MacLeodDr.jpg

are not interchangeable, however. MacLeod of Harris and MacLeod of Lewis are two different branches of Clan MacLeod, with different tartans, badges, mottos, separate chiefs, etc.

My family, for example, is associate only with MacLeod of Harris. We don't/can't wear the Dress MacLeod of Lewis tartan, which is fine by me. I think it's a little garish.

[aephi alum]

According to this web site (http://www.clan-macleod-scotland.org.uk/index.php) any MacLeod can wear either the yellow or the green tartan, these days anyway. I was always given to understand that I could wear either.

[BBelleADPi]

Honey and Beryana-

I, too, am a St. Clair, on my mother's side! Right now, I've only been able to get my hands on one item, and have only traced it back to four generations. (And they were at one time in Nashville, Tennessee). But all of my maternal and paternal geneologies are done-it was my grandfather's hobby when he retired from his post at the university. I just have to find everything! (Oh, my mother would SO kill me!)

[honeychile]

Originally posted by BBelleADPi
Honey and Beryana-

I, too, am a St. Clair, on my mother's side! Right now, I've only been able to get my hands on one item, and have only traced it back to four generations. (And they were at one time in Nashville, Tennessee). But all of my maternal and paternal geneologies are done-it was my grandfather's hobby when he retired from his post at the university. I just have to find everything! (Oh, my mother would SO kill me!)

Woo Hoo!! We'll have to have a meeting of the Clan!!

I can't wait to see what your grandfather has to show!

[GangsterOfLove]

Originally posted by JenMarie
MacGregor:
http://clan.com/tartanfinder.html?search_clan=%27MacGregor%27

http://clan.com/clan_images/tartans/lochc_mg_a.jpg

Modern

http://clan.com/clan_images/tartans/lochc_mg_a.jpg

Ancient

Interesting...

My great-grandfather was a MacGregor. I guess that's the tartan of my "ancestors".

[Rudey]

When I see this thread title I think of fish sauce.

Anyone else?

-Rudey

[CougADPi]

Originally posted by honeychile
FYI - the first rule of genealogy is that, since spelling was only standardized about 200 years ago, names that are similar are often the same. ne of my other names I trace is McCullough. There are 28 ways of spelling McCullough. Had I ignored the other 27, I would not have been able to get as far back as I have!

[/lecture!]

Oh I know...but its kind of a joke with my family. We don't know any others who spell it with two S's, so we always tell people that they spell it wrong and we're the only one's who are right! Even funnier, my great grandfather changed it...we used to be 1 S too!

[honeychile]

Originally posted by CougADPi
Oh I know...but its kind of a joke with my family. We don't know any others who spell it with two S's, so we always tell people that they spell it wrong and we're the only one's who are right! Even funnier, my great grandfather changed it...we used to be 1 S too!
Got it! The founder of our genealogical society was a Harriss, and always said, "With two s's." My daddy used to say, "Yep, she's right - there are definitely two s's back there, and she's a pain in both!" I'm sure you can imagine how he pronounced the "s's"!! ;)

He was being nice for my mother's sake: Mrs. Harriss was stuck on one of the problems she was having in completely her genealogical certification, and my mother told her where to look. She would never admit it, though!

Would saying that I find Craig Ferguson terribly sexy fit in this thread? It has been noted that I have this thing for Scotsmen!

[kstar]

Wow, are there no other Shaws on here? I knew it was one of the smaller clans, but I didn't think it was that small.

[MysticCat]

Originally posted by aephi alum
According to this web site (http://www.clan-macleod-scotland.org.uk/index.php) any MacLeod can wear either the yellow or the green tartan, these days anyway. I was always given to understand that I could wear either. Interesting. Most sources I have seen (none of which I can find now, of course) say the opposite.

I'm wearing my MacLeod Hunting tie today:
http://www.lindaclifford.com/Images/MacLeodHtgOC.jpg
(Mine is much more muted, though -- the green is almost brown)