Do you think nationals will ever open up chapters at community colleges?

[AznSAE]

i dont know if this has been asked before and the search came up empty, but do you think they will ever expand national fraternity and sorority chapters to community colleges? is it because of numbers? the ratio of community colleges to universities is like a million to one?

[AznSAE]

oops wrong forum.

[Kevlar281]

Wrong forum or not I feel like responding, word has it that Sigma Pi just colonized at University of Houston – Downtown.

[Tom Earp]

LXA Decided Not To Do This By Vote At GA in 2005.

[kddani]

I think it would be very difficult to maintain any sort of strong chapter at community college. It would be very difficult to maintain strong leadership because so many people would be going in and out. Also, alumni support would be difficult to maintain- I don't know of many community colleges with any sort of strong alumni base. Community colleges are all (or almost all) commuter schools as well, which have proven to be difficult battlegrounds for GLOs.

Also, is there really a need for it? Seems most orgs have their hands full.

NPC's policy is that chapters can only be at 4-year colleges. I don't know if NIC has any such rule.

Do any NPHC groups have chapters at 2-year institutions?

[ladygreek]

DST doesn't. It is prohibited by our Grand Chapter Bylaws, and I doubt it will be changed anytime soon.

[Kevin]

There is one particular fraternity that I wouldn't put it past.

Not going to name names though.

[Private I]

Interesting topic, FSU IFC just voted last week again not to have rush open to TCC.

[KatieKate1244]

The community college at my school is integrated with the four year school. (Now, it's supposed to be "seperate," but that's a joke) Several programs start out in the community college and end in the four year, like my program. I'm pretty sure all the GLOs take community college members, I haven't heard anyone turning anyone away for that reason.

[PM_Mama00]

I'm actually surprised they haven't started letting Henry Ford CC students start rushing at UMD since we're directly next door to each other. I'd hate that idea though, because like it's been said many of those students are just starting out there and transferring elsewhere. Then again, many of those students end up transferring to UMD. It'd be too inconvenient though because it's nice to have students who will be on UMD campus at least one day a week.

[kdonline]

If I recall correctly, there was a chapter of Sigma Phi Epsilon that was charters at Miami-Dade Community College at least 15 or so years ago. Don't know if it's still around...

But I DO know that the school is now called Miami-Dade College...

[Coramoor]

Originally posted by ktsnake
There is one particular fraternity that I wouldn't put it past.

Not going to name names though.

Lol. Exactly what I was thinking. Wouldn't be surprised if it has already happened.

[Buttonz]

Even at a four year commuter school, it's hard. I know because I was intiated at one.

This school has 3 NPCs and 4 National frats, but there is so much competition from the locals, that can do whatever they want, and the school won't get rid of them or force the mto go national.

Most of us stay all four years (well, it's not uncommon to have 5th or 6th year seniors), but it's still hard to get the numbers to make national happy.

[PM_Mama00]

Originally posted by Buttonz
Even at a four year commuter school, it's hard. I know because I was intiated at one.

This school has 3 NPCs and 4 National frats, but there is so much competition from the locals, that can do whatever they want, and the school won't get rid of them or force the mto go national.

Most of us stay all four years (well, it's not uncommon to have 5th or 6th year seniors), but it's still hard to get the numbers to make national happy.



Same here. 3 NPCs, 2 National fraternities, 2 engineering (one women, one men), and then the local but they recruit wherever anyways. Most of their members don't even go to UMD. One of our NPCs is struggling real bad but I can't say it's not their own fault.

[ASUADPi]

I didn't know that NPC had a rule about 4 year schools, although it makes perfect sense.

I think a CC would be hard to get a greek chapter started. Although I wish that NPC's would be more open to juniors rushing. I say this because so many women can't afford to go straight to a 4 year university and do the community college route. So by the time their at a college they are juniors and let's face it juniors don't rank very high when it comes to formal. I wish that would change. But I realize something like that will just take time and persistance of members.

[33girl]

Originally posted by ASUADPi
I think a CC would be hard to get a greek chapter started. Although I wish that NPC's would be more open to juniors rushing. I say this because so many women can't afford to go straight to a 4 year university and do the community college route. So by the time their at a college they are juniors and let's face it juniors don't rank very high when it comes to formal. I wish that would change. But I realize something like that will just take time and persistance of members.

That's the culture of the school. It has nothing to do with NPC.

[lifesaver]

Originally posted by ktsnake
There is one particular fraternity that I wouldn't put it past.

Not going to name names though.

hahah. I was thinking the same thing too. Interesting how we are all on the same page with this one. You've heard the joke, right? What do you call three of their members in a phone booth? A chapter. bwahahah.

[AlphaFrog]

I'm thinking it would be a bad idea anyway. I can see people using CC for the sole purpose of initiating into a sorority/fraternity that's top-tier at their school of choice then transfering a semester later. In that case it would definately overload GLO's with transfers that they don't have space for.

[AchtungBaby80]

Originally posted by AlphaFrog
I'm thinking it would be a bad idea anyway. I can see people using CC for the sole purpose of initiating into a sorority/fraternity that's top-tier at their school of choice then transfering a semester later. In that case it would definately overload GLO's with transfers that they don't have space for.

Good point. I really hope I never see an NPC colonize at a community college...but the student population and culture at the community colleges I am familiar with are way different than 4-year universities that I'm not sure it would work anyway.

[KSUViolet06]

I don't think it would happen. The turnover rate at community colleges is too high to establish any sort of stability for a chapter. Community college culture is different too. The students there usually chose the school either to save money or save time in getting their degree. They aren't particularly interested in getting involved.

[Sister Havana]

APO used to have chapters at several community colleges. (here's the list (http://www.apo.org/organization/chapter/lists/state.shtml#) of all the chapters that ever existed) but none of them are active anymore.

I'm surprised some of the larger community colleges don't have their own local GLOs.

[Dionysus]

I don't want any dumbass community college students in my fraternity!