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Buddha MaMa
04-18-2005, 04:58 PM
i am soooooo upset.

i am up here are marymount-fordham university in tarrytown and i was sitting in the car with my girlfriend and we were eating lunch. a police car pulls over as i am reclined in my seat with my foot propped up on the dash.

he steps out the car and asks to see my license. i am ask him is there a problem and he tells me yes.

he says that security officers called gave them my license plate because i and my girlfriend were harassing the students at the school.

mind you the stretch that the university is located on is deserted. there is no one walking around on the college.

of course i was like what?!?!?!?!

then he asks me if i am intoxicated. i tell him no. he asks me, what is in the cup. i told him it was coca-cola when popeye's. he actually looks in my cup and smells it. :mad:

so you know i am pissed now.

then he asked me if i've been smoking weed. i am like what?!?!? he said there were some flakes on my pants.

the freaking flakes with crumbs from me eating chicken strips in my car. :mad: :mad:

then i asked him, was the reason he asked me if i was smoking weed because i have loccs or was it the facted that i had on one of my collector bon marley t-shirts. dude, said maybe. :mad:

needless to say, all i was doing was coming to visit maymount-fordham to pursue some info on grad school. he let me go and asked me were he can get a shirt like the one i had. :mad:

i think that tarrytown can kiss my ass.


funny thing i get harassed like this alot because of my loccs. it's the same thing, just because i have loccs. cops assume i am the dancehall queens of ganja.

anyone else constant harassed by one- time?

Rudey
04-18-2005, 05:01 PM
Was the weed good?

-Rudey

Originally posted by Buddha MaMa
i am soooooo upset.

i am up here are marymount-fordham university in tarrytown and i was sitting in the car with my girlfriend and we were eating lunch. a police car pulls over as i am reclined in my seat with my foot propped up on the dash.

he steps out the car and asks to see my license. i am ask him is there a problem and he tells me yes.

he says that security officers called gave them my license plate because i and my girlfriend were harassing the students at the school.

mind you the stretch that the university is located on is deserted. there is no one walking around on the college.

of course i was like what?!?!?!?!

then he asks me if i am intoxicated. i tell him no. he asks me, what is in the cup. i told him it was coca-cola when popeye's. he actually looks in my cup and smells it. :mad:

so you know i am pissed now.

then he asked me if i've been smoking weed. i am like what?!?!? he said there were some flakes on my pants.

the freaking flakes with crumbs from me eating chicken strips in my car. :mad: :mad:

then i asked him, was the reason he asked me if i was smoking weed because i have loccs or was it the facted that i had on one of my collector bon marley t-shirts. dude, said maybe. :mad:

needless to say, all i was doing was coming to visit maymount-fordham to pursue some info on grad school. he let me go and asked me were he can get a shirt like the one i had. :mad:

i think that tarrytown can kiss my ass.


funny thing i get harassed like this alot because of my loccs. it's the same thing, just because i have loccs. cops assume i am the dancehall queens of ganja.

anyone else constant harassed by one- time?

Buddha MaMa
04-18-2005, 05:04 PM
i swear i was not smoking weed!!!!!!!

























this time

TheEpitome1920
04-18-2005, 05:05 PM
BOO @ the fuzz. Sorry you had to experience that chica.:(

Tom Earp
04-18-2005, 07:44 PM
Being an Ex COP. the guy was a dick!:mad:

Now, if you would explain Your LINGO?

Maybe your attitude caused a problem?

If not doing anything, then be cool!

Lady Pi Phi
04-18-2005, 08:25 PM
Originally posted by Tom Earp
...If not doing anything, then be cool!


she shouldn't have to be cool. If she wasn't doing anything illegal, she shouldn't have been harrassed.

I'm really sorry that this guy was a dick and he did this to you.

AchtungBaby80
04-18-2005, 08:48 PM
Cops seem to think that all persons under the age of 25 are either drunk or stoned...all the time. That's the first question they ask you when they pull you over, no matter what the reason was that they pulled you over in the first place--"You been drinking?" "You high?" It ticks me off, too, to be honest. Once a cop pulled me over for not having my headlights all the way on (hey, the street was so well-lit I couldn't tell!) and became totally convinced that I had to be drunk because I happened to be wearing a cocktail dress. He gave me the 3rd degree, hoping to trip me up asking all these questions about where my parents lived, where I lived, what I'd been doing that night, why I had a Vera Bradley overnight bag in my truck, why I was out on the road, where I was going, etc., and then became frustrated when my "drunk" self, who was completely sober, answered everything correctly. Since he couldn't get me for a DUI, he wrote me a ticket instead. Jerk. :p

I'm gonna ask my cop friends why they treat cute girls like that. ;)

Optimist Prime
04-18-2005, 09:25 PM
a cop got punched in the face and then some girl stole another cop's car this weekend. You should come to Radford

valkyrie
04-18-2005, 09:31 PM
Originally posted by Lady Pi Phi
she shouldn't have to be cool. If she wasn't doing anything illegal, she shouldn't have been harrassed.


Exactly. And shit like that happens all the time.

KillarneyRose
04-18-2005, 09:32 PM
That policeman sounds like a jerk. I'm sorry you were harrassed like that :(

Coramoor
04-18-2005, 09:39 PM
I think it's the power trips...

I know a kid that I graduated HS with that just became a cop. Needless to say I can easily see this kid doing shit like that just b/c it gives him an ego boost.

In the words of Eazy E...Fuck the police.

NinjaPoodle
04-18-2005, 10:29 PM
I hope you got the badge number..

HotDamnImAPhiMu
04-19-2005, 08:15 AM
I'm sorry, but how are you wandering around in a Bob Marley shirt and dreds and then SHOCKED someone might have thought you MAY smoke weed?

Lady Pi Phi
04-19-2005, 09:04 AM
Originally posted by HotDamnImAPhiMu
I'm sorry, but how are you wandering around in a Bob Marley shirt and dreds and then SHOCKED someone might have thought you MAY smoke weed?

OMG, you did not just say that!

I really hope you are joking. That's like saying to a rape victim, "well you were wearing that really sexy dress...I'm sure the guy just thought you really did want to have sex".

HotDamnImAPhiMu
04-19-2005, 09:58 AM
Actually it's not. How is this guy a victim? The cop was DOING HIS JOB. Let's review:


* SOMEBODY called in this guy's plate number. There was a problem to start with.

* They were sitting in the car, loitering near a school on the side of an otherwise deserted public road.

* The cop asked a number of completely reasonable questions: have you been drinking? doing drugs? etc. -- reasonable especially considering the cop had a complaint related to THAT PLATE NUMBER and these two are just kind of hanging out on the side of a deserted road.

* Buddha admits, yeah, he uses pot.



Okay so what's the problem here?

The cop assumed Buddha uses pot? HE ADMITS THAT IT'S TRUE! That Buddha thinks the cop may have based this assumption on the way he dresses/grooms? Buddha admits this has been a problem in the past -- if it bothers you, change it.

This is like people who speed, then get pissed they were pulled over. You were speeding! And then you were a dick to the cop, and you're shocked you got a ticket?

The cop was doing his job, which was to investigate a complaint. You're not going to convince me a pot-smoking guy just chillin at the side of the road in a car with a plate number that's been called in as harassing kids at a school is in the right on this one.

Sorry.

KillarneyRose
04-19-2005, 10:30 AM
Isn't Buddah MaMa a female?

UlChiOCutie26
04-19-2005, 10:35 AM
The Cops in KY SUCK! I feel your pain! They have nothing else to do so they pull over random people and interrogate them. It's wrong and something needs to be done about cops that are on a power trip!

kddani
04-19-2005, 10:43 AM
Originally posted by HotDamnImAPhiMu
* SOMEBODY called in this guy's plate number. There was a problem to start with.

* They were sitting in the car, loitering near a school on the side of an otherwise deserted public road.


These are both valid points. OP hasn't said whether or not they WERE harassing people at the school or what happened with that. People don't tend to report license plate numbers for no reason. And the OP didn't deny it.

Also, a cop is doing his job if he sees a car randomly pulled over on a deserted road with people in it. You could've been in distress, broken down, ill, being kidnapped or raped, or very logically smoking up.

cashmoney
04-19-2005, 10:45 AM
Dude, you just have to understand that cops are those guys in highschool that always wanted to be cool and popular but never were. Thats their whole problem. Thats why they harass guys like me and people like you, they wanted to be like us but never could. Most of them are ultra-conservative and they all seem to have the mentality of "The bigger the bust the better the boost" :mad: Thats why they're always looking to nail someone for drugs. But the fucked up thing is that many of them just take your shit for themselves. Sometimes they'll let you go and other times they wont. I'm almost positive many of them pocket some of the drugs they arrest people for but leave just enough for evidence.

One thing I've learned, and any guy whos had to deal with plenty of cops, is that you can't win with those fuckers. Arguing with them isnt going help a bit. You just have to suck up, say yes-sir and deal with some bitchin. The only two options are either getting a fine or going to jail......and I don't want either.

We had an incident once where this cop my friend Travis knew from his half-sister's side of her family tried to give him shit one night while out at the beach. And it wasnt just him but all of us him and his cop buddies were talking shit to. And it all had to deal with custody rights to his sister. Well, we were drunk and travis and a couple other friends had GHB on them in eye drop bottles and all of us were trashed. So when the cop started running his mouth and his little shrimpy ass cops buddies started to act like they were going to stomp us....out conversation went like this:

Cashmoney: What, am I supposed to be intimidated because you have a badge?

Cop1: What did you just say?

Cashmoney: You heard me, doughnut muncher.

Cop2: Thats it, up against the wall. Put your hands behind your back.

Cashmoney: Oh, so now your going to handcuff me after all of you walk up to us and harass us over a family issue between one of us and one of your fellow cops. Wait untill the news stations find out about this (keep in mind this is right when Jacksonville was having horrible publicity for dirty cops and while another cop shot an innocent person as well as a sherriff deputy going on a shooting spree before killing himself and his wife)

Cop3: Wait. lets see some ID. (they don't cuff me)

Cop1: I think the best thing for you guys right now is to go home and don't come back to the beach for 6 months.

Cashmoney: Why are you trying to come at me as if you have some authority as to where I can and cannot walk.

Cop3: Hey, buddy, careers don't matter here. From one person to another, don't let us see you guys around here for awhile.

Cashmoney: (as I'm getting ready to walk away) No, trust me, careers do matter a lot right now. (they werent catching on to the fact that we'd stomp those fuckers in the ground if they didnt have badges)

After that told told us to get the fuck on. But thats one reason why I can't stand cops is because of shit like that. They abuse their authority for personal reasons. :rolleyes: Even though I was drunk and it happened 2 years ago.....I still remember it clear as day and I don't think I'll ever forget that night.

cashmoney
04-19-2005, 10:47 AM
HOtDamnImaphimu....


I agree with you. But what would you think if you saw a group of girls who were wearing lucky charm shirts with candy jewlry on their arms and bright colored hair?

valkyrie
04-19-2005, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by HotDamnImAPhiMu
* SOMEBODY called in this guy's plate number. There was a problem to start with.


First of all, she's a she. Second of all, what are the odds that this is actually true? I'm not sure how much experience you have with the criminal "justice" arena, but COPS MAKE UP BOGUS REASONS TO BOTHER PEOPLE ALL THE TIME ESPECIALLY IF SAID PEOPLE ARE BLACK. Whether or not someone smokes pot or has smoked pot in the past has NOTHING to do with stopping her NOW. A police officer must have PROBABLE CAUSE to stop and question someone, but the funny thing is that police make up probable cause all the time ("Someone called in your plates" or "You have a cracked tail light") even when it's bogus. What's worse is that once the police make a bogus stop and the case ends up in court, depending on where you are, the judge will ALMOST ALWAYS believe the police over the defendant, so if the cop says your tail light was cracked or someone called in your plates, even if it's not true, you're screwed.

cashmoney
04-19-2005, 11:54 AM
Originally posted by valkyrie
I'm not sure how much experience you have with the criminal "justice" arena, but COPS MAKE UP BOGUS REASONS TO BOTHER PEOPLE ALL THE TIME ESPECIALLY IF SAID PEOPLE ARE BLACK.


Hold the fuck up....thats racist as shit. Who says they do it more to black people than white people? What figures are you basing these statements off of? I don't know about you, but I see more white people pulled over on the side of the road than I do black people. Half the black people out there can't even afford cars. :rolleyes: And i'd be willing to bet that almost half of the black people that do have cars arent pulled over thinking they have drugs or a DWI.....it's because their tags are expired. Same goes with Mexicans. Just because you only see those people on COPS on FOX, that doesnt mean its mostly them who are pulled over.

HotDamnImAPhiMu
04-19-2005, 12:11 PM
Originally posted by valkyrie
First of all, she's a she. Second of all, what are the odds that this is actually true? I'm not sure how much experience you have with the criminal "justice" arena...

I work in criminal justice. And so does my dad, his three brothers, my brother...


but COPS MAKE UP BOGUS REASONS TO BOTHER PEOPLE ALL THE TIME ESPECIALLY IF SAID PEOPLE ARE BLACK. Whether or not someone smokes pot or has smoked pot in the past has NOTHING to do with stopping her NOW. A police officer must have PROBABLE CAUSE to stop and question someone, but the funny thing is that police make up probable cause all the time ("Someone called in your plates" or "You have a cracked tail light") even when it's bogus.

I think most cops are smart enough to understand that if this is questioned, it's a pretty simple matter to examine records and see if there actually WAS a complaint called in.


What's worse is that once the police make a bogus stop and the case ends up in court, depending on where you are, the judge will ALMOST ALWAYS believe the police over the defendant, so if the cop says your tail light was cracked or someone called in your plates, even if it's not true, you're screwed.

Again, I think I'm okay with that. S/he was sitting in a parked car on the side of a deserted highway in a car matching the description of someone who was harassing students down the road.

And, to be honest, judging from the tone s/he used here, sounds like s/he was giving the cop shit, too.

I have no problem with the way the cop handled this situation.

HotDamnImAPhiMu
04-19-2005, 12:16 PM
Originally posted by cashmoney
I see more white people pulled over on the side of the road than I do black people....


Hahaha. This is me. I get pulled over ALL THE TIME. Literally about once every other week. Which is why I don't understand the concept of bitching to the cop that pulled you over --

WHAT DID YOU EXPECT TO HAPPEN?

Lil' Hannah
04-19-2005, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by HotDamnImAPhiMu
I work in criminal justice.

I'm sorry but I couldn't ignore this one...

Originally posted by HotDamnImAPhiMu
Hi. I'm a 23 year old secretary who works for the government. I make $24k a year.

cashmoney
04-19-2005, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by Lil' Hannah
I'm sorry but I couldn't ignore this one...



Damn. :p

valkyrie
04-19-2005, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by Lil' Hannah
I'm sorry but I couldn't ignore this one...

LOL!

Rudey
04-19-2005, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by Lil' Hannah
I'm sorry but I couldn't ignore this one...

Doesn't one fall under the other?

-Rudey

Lil' Hannah
04-19-2005, 12:42 PM
Originally posted by Rudey
Doesn't one fall under the other?

-Rudey

Yes but if I do HR for USGS, that doesn't mean I work in geology.

Rudey
04-19-2005, 12:56 PM
Originally posted by Lil' Hannah
Yes but if I do HR for USGS, that doesn't mean I work in geology.

You might not be a geologist, but you work in geology if you ask me.

-Rudey

Dionysus
04-19-2005, 01:08 PM
Damn you peeps are swift. :D

aphigirly
04-19-2005, 01:13 PM
Originally posted by Rudey
You might not be a geologist, but you work in geology if you ask me.


no, you work in HR for a government geology agency

Rudey
04-19-2005, 01:24 PM
Originally posted by aphigirly
no, you work in HR for a government geology agency

Were you taught English?

There is nothing wrong about saying you work in geology.

There are a lot of people that serve in different roles that work in any field. In marketing, there are the number crunchers, there are the sales folks, and there are the creative people.

Not everyone lists every single detail of their job when they say what they do.

Of course her being a secretary doesn't make her an expert on criminal law. That is not an issue of language anymore. And if you want to nitpick, who in here is a criminal lawyer and an expert?

-Rudey

HotDamnImAPhiMu
04-19-2005, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by Lil' Hannah
I'm sorry but I couldn't ignore this one...


gov't law enforcement agency. If you'd like to know which one, PM me. :)

HotDamnImAPhiMu
04-19-2005, 01:51 PM
and not in HR. My title is "secretary," so Rudey's right, I'm not an expert -- but, I do work with cops/agents/law enforcement specialists all the live long day. Between making pots of coffee I have picked up a few things.

And crossing my legs, perched on peoples' desks.

And sleeping with everyone when they're "working late".

aphigirly
04-19-2005, 01:54 PM
Originally posted by Rudey
Were you taught English?

There is nothing wrong about saying you work in geology.

There are a lot of people that serve in different roles that work in any field. In marketing, there are the number crunchers, there are the sales folks, and there are the creative people.

Not everyone lists every single detail of their job when they say what they do.

Of course her being a secretary doesn't make her an expert on criminal law. That is not an issue of language anymore. And if you want to nitpick, who in here is a criminal lawyer and an expert?

-Rudey

i was taught english and here is an example

i work for an HR consulting and outsourcing firm. my firm does many things including the following
-Human resouce consulting
-workforce management
-payroll administration
-benefits administration

i specifically work in defined contribution plan administration and implementation. i would not say that i work in workforce management consulting even though the people in the offices one floor above me do. i do not know anything about it.

similarily, i used to work for General Electric. General Electric is a huge company that works in many different fields including regular household appliances, light bulbs, aircraft engines, medical technology, and network television (nbc). I specifically work in their industrial systems division in which they built basically large scale circuit brakers for for factories and nuclear power plants. but to be honest, i would say that i worked in factory planning and management, because thats what i did. to say anything else would be wrong.

i'm not trying to nitpick, nor am i saying that i am a criminal justice expert (where the heck did that come from anyway), but there is a HUGE difference between being a secretary and being a cop, DA, public defender, legal aid, paralegal, ect. I believe that is the point that Lil'Hannah and myself are making.

HotDamnImAPhiMu
04-19-2005, 02:10 PM
My point is, there is a big difference, but I didn't say I was a cop -- I said I work in the field, which is certainly true. If you've ever worked in a police station, law enforcement field office, etc., you know the support positions aren't exactly just typing and coffee making. There's a reason I have a security clearance, and it's not because of my killer pencil sharpening skills.

I contribute to the cases, investigative reports, and I've had some of the same training the agents have -- they're sweethearts & know I'd like to stay in the field when I graduate (and am eligible,) so they offer to haul me along to the firearms range, handcuffing classes, etc.

At any rate, the question re: my experience seemed to center around how familiar I am with cops/agents/law enforcement personnel & their morals -- and I would say I'm a veritable EXPERT at that. :) I was raised by them, dated them, work with them, live with them.

AND I MAKE A KILLER POT OF COFFEE.

HotDamnImAPhiMu
04-19-2005, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by Lil' Hannah
I'm sorry but I couldn't ignore this one...

PLUS I'd like to announce my recent induction into the $25k a year club.

Don't hate me because I'm so rich & beautiful.

valkyrie
04-19-2005, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by HotDamnImAPhiMu
At any rate, the question re: my experience seemed to center around how familiar I am with cops/agents/law enforcement personnel & their morals -- and I would say I'm a veritable EXPERT at that. :) I was raised by them, dated them, work with them, live with them.

Being an expert at hanging around with cops does not make you an expert in the criminal justice field. Just so we're clear on that. I also can't help but wonder -- if you were raised by cops, hang out with cops, date cops, etc. -- whether you are somewhat biased in your assessments of police behavior.

Rudey
04-19-2005, 02:23 PM
Again, there is nothing wrong with that statement.

If someone told me they did workforce management consulting yada yada yada yada, I would tell them to tell me what their field is a lot quicker.

I work in banking. If someone knows more about that field and wants to know what I do, I let them know I work with high grade fixed-income municipal products including long-term/short-term (floating rate), taxable and tax-exempt bonds as well as derivative solutions. But very rarely do I just drop a bombshell like that on even my relatives.

So this isn't about language and thus technically what she said is correct. As for how much she knows, she isn't an expert and I do not see any criminal lawyers in this thread who are experts and disagree with what she said.

-Rudey

Originally posted by aphigirly
i was taught english and here is an example

i work for an HR consulting and outsourcing firm. my firm does many things including the following
-Human resouce consulting
-workforce management
-payroll administration
-benefits administration

i specifically work in defined contribution plan administration and implementation. i would not say that i work in workforce management consulting even though the people in the offices one floor above me do. i do not know anything about it.

similarily, i used to work for General Electric. General Electric is a huge company that works in many different fields including regular household appliances, light bulbs, aircraft engines, medical technology, and network television (nbc). I specifically work in their industrial systems division in which they built basically large scale circuit brakers for for factories and nuclear power plants. but to be honest, i would say that i worked in factory planning and management, because thats what i did. to say anything else would be wrong.

i'm not trying to nitpick, nor am i saying that i am a criminal justice expert (where the heck did that come from anyway), but there is a HUGE difference between being a secretary and being a cop, DA, public defender, legal aid, paralegal, ect. I believe that is the point that Lil'Hannah and myself are making.

HotDamnImAPhiMu
04-19-2005, 03:00 PM
question:

I'm not sure how much experience you have with the criminal "justice" arena



answer:

I work in the field.

valkyrie
04-19-2005, 03:04 PM
Working in the field does not mean you're an expert on criminal justice, and it seems like you're trying to pass yourself off as one.

HotDamnImAPhiMu
04-19-2005, 03:15 PM
Nope. I said I worked in the field, which is certainly true.

And, you didn't ask if I was an expert, you asked if I had experience, which I certainly do.

Additionally, I'm not sure why you'd need to have a masters from John Jay to qualify for discussion here -- this is about a cop's treatment of a fairly routine situation, no? From what I read in the post (Buddha's description of the situation and Buddha's reactions) the cop was justified in his actions.

aphigirly
04-19-2005, 03:44 PM
Originally posted by Rudey
Again, there is nothing wrong with that statement.

If someone told me they did workforce management consulting yada yada yada yada, I would tell them to tell me what their field is a lot quicker.

I work in banking. If someone knows more about that field and wants to know what I do, I let them know I work with high grade fixed-income municipal products including long-term/short-term (floating rate), taxable and tax-exempt bonds as well as derivative solutions. But very rarely do I just drop a bombshell like that on even my relatives.


your example and my example are completely different. either you know that and just dont want to admit it, or you need to take a basic logic class

Lady Pi Phi
04-19-2005, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by HotDamnImAPhiMu
Actually it's not. How is this guy a victim? The cop was DOING HIS JOB. Let's review:


* SOMEBODY called in this guy's plate number. There was a problem to start with.

* They were sitting in the car, loitering near a school on the side of an otherwise deserted public road.

* The cop asked a number of completely reasonable questions: have you been drinking? doing drugs? etc. -- reasonable especially considering the cop had a complaint related to THAT PLATE NUMBER and these two are just kind of hanging out on the side of a deserted road.

* Buddha admits, yeah, he uses pot.



Okay so what's the problem here?

The cop assumed Buddha uses pot? HE ADMITS THAT IT'S TRUE! That Buddha thinks the cop may have based this assumption on the way he dresses/grooms? Buddha admits this has been a problem in the past -- if it bothers you, change it.

This is like people who speed, then get pissed they were pulled over. You were speeding! And then you were a dick to the cop, and you're shocked you got a ticket?

The cop was doing his job, which was to investigate a complaint. You're not going to convince me a pot-smoking guy just chillin at the side of the road in a car with a plate number that's been called in as harassing kids at a school is in the right on this one.

Sorry.

The problem is you initial comment. In no way is appropriate or even acceptable to judge some based on theior appearance. Just because she has dreads and wearing a Bob Marlet t-shirt does it mean that she smokes pot, was smoking pot, or ever has smoked pot. We don't know what she does and neither did this cop. Her attire should in no way reflect her behaviour and for this cop to do what he did was wrong, and so was your comment.

Cash, racial profiling is a big problem in many police departments.

HotDamnImAPhiMu
04-19-2005, 03:56 PM
Her attire DOES reflect her behavior. She admitted she smokes pot.

Remind me where the cop was wrong. Where he questioned the two girls pulled over in a car on an abandoned street? The one that matched the description of a car that'd been harassing students? When he asked if they'd been drinking or doing drugs -- WHILE THEY WERE SITTING IN A CAR?

I'm sorry, I just disagree. You're way off base here.

Lady Pi Phi
04-19-2005, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by HotDamnImAPhiMu
Her attire DOES reflect her behavior. She admitted she smokes pot.

Remind me where the cop was wrong. Where he questioned the two girls pulled over in a car on an abandoned street? The one that matched the description of a car that'd been harassing students? When he asked if they'd been drinking or doing drugs -- WHILE THEY WERE SITTING IN A CAR?

I'm sorry, I just disagree. You're way off base here.

I'm sorry...where did she say she smoked weed? Where did she say she was parked on an abandoned street.

In the original post, she told the cop the flakes were from her meal. She never admitted to smoked pot. Secondly, she was not parked on an abandoned highway, she was at the university.

Last time I checked, sitting in a car having a meal, was not a crime.

HotDamnImAPhiMu
04-19-2005, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by Buddha MaMa
i swear i was not smoking weed!!!!!!!

























this time

Rudey
04-19-2005, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by aphigirly
your example and my example are completely different. either you know that and just dont want to admit it, or you need to take a basic logic class

I need to take a basic logic class? Seriously, if you lack intelligence, speak to others like you. Do not even think we are anywhere in the same league.

-Rudey

Rudey
04-19-2005, 04:08 PM
What's wrong with smoking pot?

-Rudey

winnieb
04-19-2005, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by HotDamnImAPhiMu
Her attire DOES reflect her behavior. She admitted she smokes pot.

Remind me where the cop was wrong. Where he questioned the two girls pulled over in a car on an abandoned street? The one that matched the description of a car that'd been harassing students? When he asked if they'd been drinking or doing drugs -- WHILE THEY WERE SITTING IN A CAR?

I'm sorry, I just disagree. You're way off base here.


There are better ways to approach a car--- how about "is everything ok here" The cop should look for the subtle indicators that would say if she was drunk, stoned, etc-- ANYONE, especially a trained person should be able to smell pot, a trained person should know to look at the pupils and tell if they are dialating abnormally, etc. If all appears ok, let them eat their lunch.

And she admitted on a message board that she has smoked pot, I am sure she didn't tell the cop as he walked up "hey, i 've smoked pot in the past- but not today" She was eating lunch!

And yes, racial profiling is a big deal alot of places, there has been much ado about it here in the past. Maybe it has something to do with racial profiling and I don't fit the criteria-- but I have NEVER been approached by a cop in the way she described-- regardless of skin color-- that is uncalled for. I got stop by the cop a couple of weeks ago-- I was speeding (well over 20mph over the limit)-- the cop walked to the car- told me I was speeding, I acted surprised, he asked what I thought the limit was, I told him I thought it was 65 (i knew it was 55)-- he came back apologized for bothering my evening and told me to have a nice night and try to slow down I might not just get a warning next time. That is how I expect to be treated, regardless of getting a ticket or not-- manners are still important!

Lady Pi Phi
04-19-2005, 04:13 PM
What she did yesteday, or 3 years ago, has no bearing on what she was doing that day. Again, you can't harrass or arrest someone, based on what they might to. You also can't harrass or arrest someone on what they might have done when you have no evidence. Since you work in law enforcement, you should know that. the cop was way out of line.

HotDamnImAPhiMu
04-19-2005, 04:17 PM
aaaaaaaaaand I also know he wasn't harassing her.

Checking in on two people sitting in a car on the side of an otherwise abandoned road IS HIS JOB.

Asking if anyone was inebriated or intoxicated, when they'd obviously driven there (hence the car) and probably planned to drive home IS HIS JOB.


sigh.

33girl
04-19-2005, 05:13 PM
Originally posted by Buddha MaMa
then i asked him, was the reason he asked me if i was smoking weed because i have loccs or was it the facted that i had on one of my collector bon marley t-shirts. dude, said maybe. :mad:

This clearly shows that she was profiled, and the "responding to a call on this car" thing was most likely BS. If there was a problem with them being parked in that area, the cop should have just said "please move on" without all the BS comments about weed and such that this guy made.

I'm going to go home and give myself a stigmata and see if I get a cop asking me if I've walked on water or raised Lazarus from the dead today. :rolleyes:

valkyrie
04-19-2005, 05:13 PM
Originally posted by HotDamnImAPhiMu
Her attire DOES reflect her behavior. She admitted she smokes pot.

Remind me where the cop was wrong. Where he questioned the two girls pulled over in a car on an abandoned street? The one that matched the description of a car that'd been harassing students? When he asked if they'd been drinking or doing drugs -- WHILE THEY WERE SITTING IN A CAR?

I'm sorry, I just disagree. You're way off base here.

If you know anything about probable cause, you know that wearing a Bob Marley tshirt (that a cop couldn't even see before he got up to the car so it certainly wasn't why he stopped) does not mean a police officer has a reason to stop someone. It doesn't matter if someone smokes pot every single day when she's at home. The cops must have a reasonable belief that she has committed, is committing or will commit a crime.

I think where we disagree here is that you're taking the cop's word that someone reported the car and I'm not. I think it's more likely than not that the cop never got a call and is just using the "report" as a reason to stop someone. I've seen stuff like that happen many times.

Tom Earp
04-19-2005, 06:45 PM
First off, unless you have been in Law Enforcement then you dont have a friggen clue.:mad:

In Many Areas, You can sign up for a ride along program, get off of your back sides and try it. Eye opener.

I went threw shoot dont shoot scenerio after being on the streets for 6 years. EYE OPENER to the extreme! See people die, no matter what reason is bad.:(

Was shot once, and that was enough.

For you civilians, when driving a car with shield, a Badge, and a gun with lights and siren does not keep you safe from trying to protect innocent people from the dirt bags who are trying to do things to them.:mad:

I was told the first night of acadamey all you will see is good people that bad people did bad to or the bad people. Figure the worst and hope for the best.

Officers have certain districts that they patrol all of the time and if they see a strange car, then they check it out.

So, you were embarresed, well, if this dude was trying to rape you, you would have been tickled to death to see a COP pull up.

Try wearing the shoes instead of complaining about it.

Hell, if I did not know the car, I would have checked it out, and if your mouth got over whelming, yes, there would have been a problem.

Dont blame everyone else when you were the center of attraction.

Suggestion, get a room next time!

Oh, Smoking is illegal and it does hang in the air and in Your system if run for 30 days, DA!

winnieb
04-19-2005, 06:54 PM
Originally posted by HotDamnImAPhiMu
Her attire DOES reflect her behavior.

Not always! Picture beautiful woman, dressed in desinger clothes, nails done, hair done, etc. at a exclusive high society event-- who is this woman, a trophy wife, an upcoming socialite, or an escort. Very different ends of the spectrum there.

Or same extreme- much more common scenario.... its 2am- woman is pulled over-- her hair is a mess, her clothes look askew, she doesn't seem coherent-- is she a coming home half lite from a wild night or driving to Walmart to buy her sick kid some medicine.

Clothes don't always reflect the behavior.

valkyrie
04-19-2005, 07:00 PM
Originally posted by Tom Earp
First off, unless you have been in Law Enforcement then you dont have a friggen clue.:mad:


Unless you've been a criminal defense attorney or a criminal defendant, you don't have a clue as to the other side, either.

Tom Earp
04-19-2005, 08:00 PM
HAHA, been on both sides and it sucks!:confused:

HotDamnImAPhiMu
04-19-2005, 08:18 PM
It's been a whole page of dialogue and no attempted calling-outs.

Lil Hannah where are you?! :confused:

Lady Pi Phi
04-19-2005, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by Tom Earp
HAHA, been on both sides and it sucks!:confused:

Well which was it? A criminal defence attorney or a criminal defendant?

Buddha MaMa
04-20-2005, 04:52 AM
Originally posted by HotDamnImAPhiMu
Actually it's not. How is this guy a victim? The cop was DOING HIS JOB. Let's review:


* SOMEBODY called in this guy's plate number. There was a problem to start with.

* They were sitting in the car, loitering near a school on the side of an otherwise deserted public road.

* The cop asked a number of completely reasonable questions: have you been drinking? doing drugs? etc. -- reasonable especially considering the cop had a complaint related to THAT PLATE NUMBER and these two are just kind of hanging out on the side of a deserted road.

* Buddha admits, yeah, he uses pot.



Okay so what's the problem here?

The cop assumed Buddha uses pot? HE ADMITS THAT IT'S TRUE! That Buddha thinks the cop may have based this assumption on the way he dresses/grooms? Buddha admits this has been a problem in the past -- if it bothers you, change it.

This is like people who speed, then get pissed they were pulled over. You were speeding! And then you were a dick to the cop, and you're shocked you got a ticket?

The cop was doing his job, which was to investigate a complaint. You're not going to convince me a pot-smoking guy just chillin at the side of the road in a car with a plate number that's been called in as harassing kids at a school is in the right on this one.

Sorry.


dude, you just lost cool points.

first i am a female...

second, i was joking about the weed with rudey.

third, it is my right to sit on the side of the road with my thumb up my ass if i want as along as i am not violating anyone elses rights!!!!

i was eating popeye's chicken on my lunch break filing out grad school applications with my girlfriend.

the fact that you say my grooming may be a problem, this is the year 2005, you ass. just because i wear loccs doesn't mean a thing. if i had on a 2pac, biggie or a mumia t-shirt should that have gotten me questioned, especially if i was in a parking spot already?


think before you answer, please!!!

Buddha MaMa
04-20-2005, 05:00 AM
Originally posted by HotDamnImAPhiMu


Again, I think I'm okay with that. S/he was sitting in a parked car on the side of a deserted highway in a car matching the description of someone who was harassing students down the road.

And, to be honest, judging from the tone s/he used here, sounds like s/he was giving the cop shit, too.

I have no problem with the way the cop handled this situation.


first off....read the freaking beginning of the thread. i was in front of a university in tarrytown eating lunch and filling out grad school applications.

me and my girlfriend was the only person of color in the area. school was out for the afternoon.

my Poppa Buddha, my step father, my brother and two cousin are police officers. i know what CPR is. do you?


god, you sound like an idiot!!

*to be honest juding from the tone in my voice, i was giving the cop shit?*

yep another idiot has passed into this wayward system of ours. i feel for the kids you surround.

Buddha MaMa
04-20-2005, 05:19 AM
the funny thing about the way hotdamn thinks is he automatically assumed that i was doing something wrong.

the cop did not greet me in a mannerly fashion. he did not use CPR. When i asked him if there was a problem officer, he said yes. that i am my girlfriend were seen harassing students on the campus. my girlfriend goes to fordham university and had her books in her lap. although there were applications all in the front seat. i had to put them down to give him my license. this fool put his nose in my drink to see if i was drinking alcohol. and had the nerve to ask me if i was smoking weed, because i had chicken crumbs in my lap.


ooooooooooooooooooookkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!

from the jump i was polite and answered all his questions politely although they were rude. i did not use a tone or any kind.

i am very familiar with how police officers work. and i understand how they do there job but that was not protocol. it is very sickening to know that hot damn assumes by the tone of my thread that i was in the wrong.

being from florida, i have been profiled several times having a car with new york plates. i have jumped up and down 95 north and south and have passed through little towns that wait for people like me to pass through because they need to earn some kind of money for there little hick towns. i have heard all types of bob marley jokes, weed jokes, dread jokes just because of my physical appearance. not to mention the n word. of course these are the same towns that happened to be handing out guns and badges to those red necks that live in them.


so racial profiling happens....

Buddha MaMa
04-20-2005, 05:24 AM
Originally posted by HotDamnImAPhiMu
I'm sorry, but how are you wandering around in a Bob Marley shirt and dreds and then SHOCKED someone might have thought you MAY smoke weed?

i am sorry guys...i keep reading this post and i just makes me mad. it really does!!!:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:


by the way..i wear red. so that makes me a Blood too, huh?

moe.ron
04-20-2005, 07:34 AM
Originally posted by HotDamnImAPhiMu
Her attire DOES reflect her behavior. She admitted she smokes pot.
Why should it? So, because I sometime wear a Phish or a Grateful Dead t-shirt, that automatically make me a pothead or doing something illegal?

HotDamnImAPhiMu
04-20-2005, 07:47 AM
Originally posted by Buddha MaMa
the funny thing about the way hotdamn thinks is he automatically assumed that i was doing something wrong..... i am very familiar with how police officers work. and i understand how they do there job but that was not protocol. it is very sickening to know that hot damn assumes by the tone of my thread that i was in the wrong.



Actually, I didn't. I said I agreed with how the cop handled the situation.

Though I do think your earlier admission to using pot weakens your statement that the cop had no right to ask if you'd been smoking.

This from a white girl who dresses ridiculously conservatively and drives a 10 year old Volvo and STILL gets asked if she smoked any weed/had anything to drink tonight. THAT'S THEIR JOB. I don't complain about it. Apparently if I wore a Bob Marley tshirt I'd be justified in complaining?

What part, do you think, about the post title "I HATE COPS" and your tone in the thread MIGHT MAKE others think you weren't cordial and civil to the cop? This from a girl whose father, step brother, brother, and two cousins are cop?

Sorry, not buying this. Next.

Lady Pi Phi
04-20-2005, 09:48 AM
Originally posted by HotDamnImAPhiMu
Actually, I didn't. I said I agreed with how the cop handled the situation.

Though I do think your earlier admission to using pot weakens your statement that the cop had no right to ask if you'd been smoking.

This from a white girl who dresses ridiculously conservatively and drives a 10 year old Volvo and STILL gets asked if she smoked any weed/had anything to drink tonight. THAT'S THEIR JOB. I don't complain about it. Apparently if I wore a Bob Marley tshirt I'd be justified in complaining?

What part, do you think, about the post title "I HATE COPS" and your tone in the thread MIGHT MAKE others think you weren't cordial and civil to the cop? This from a girl whose father, step brother, brother, and two cousins are cop?

Sorry, not buying this. Next.

This thread was a rant from a woman who was harrassed by a police officer and she wants to vent. The "tone" of this thread has nothing to do with her "tone" while speaking to the cop. You have no idea how she sounded while she was speaking to the cop. i would be mighty pissed too if I was harrassed by a cop.

You've never experience racial profiling, neither have I. But I've witnessed it first hand. You tell me when it's appropriate for a cop to pull someone over and repeatedly hurl racial slurs at them? The crime...an expired licence place sticker.

HotDamnImAPhiMu
04-20-2005, 10:24 AM
Originally posted by Lady Pi Phi
You tell me when it's appropriate for a cop to pull someone over and repeatedly hurl racial slurs at them? The crime...an expired licence place sticker.


So, you hate all police officers based on one experience you had?

GeekyPenguin
04-20-2005, 10:38 AM
Originally posted by valkyrie
If you know anything about probable cause, you know that wearing a Bob Marley tshirt (that a cop couldn't even see before he got up to the car so it certainly wasn't why he stopped) does not mean a police officer has a reason to stop someone. It doesn't matter if someone smokes pot every single day when she's at home. The cops must have a reasonable belief that she has committed, is committing or will commit a crime.

I think where we disagree here is that you're taking the cop's word that someone reported the car and I'm not. I think it's more likely than not that the cop never got a call and is just using the "report" as a reason to stop someone. I've seen stuff like that happen many times.

You are the smarterest ELAWYER ever. :)

And to throw some fun into this thread, perhaps Tom Earp went to People's College of Law (http://www.peoplescollegeoflaw.edu/)!

33girl
04-20-2005, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by Buddha MaMa
by the way..i wear red. so that makes me a Blood too, huh?

Well you know what I read one time?

Janet Jackson likes Popeye's chicken...therefore since you were eating Popeye's you must be just like Janet and are planning to flash your nipple at the next group of schoolchildren you see and CONTRIBUTE TO THE MORAL DECAY OF THIS NATION!! :eek:

-33, who is now really glad that she had to drive a few extra blocks and put her car in the Park & Ride next to Popeye's. :D

Rudey
04-20-2005, 11:49 AM
I used to love eating Popeye's. It was the best. Don't get me started on teh bisquits. If I ate Popeye's, you could forget about work for the day. Heck, some days I did a Taco Bell and Popeye's combo lunch. Those were the good days.

-Rudey
--But now I'm a vegetarian and someone stole something good from my life :(

Lady Pi Phi
04-20-2005, 11:58 AM
Originally posted by HotDamnImAPhiMu
So, you hate all police officers based on one experience you had?

Tell me where I said I hated cops?

KSigkid
04-20-2005, 12:01 PM
Originally posted by Rudey
I used to love eating Popeye's. It was the best. Don't get me started on teh bisquits. If I ate Popeye's, you could forget about work for the day. Heck, some days I did a Taco Bell and Popeye's combo lunch. Those were the good days.

-Rudey
--But now I'm a vegetarian and someone stole something good from my life :(

Popeye's chicken alone would keep me from being a vegetarian. You're obviously a stronger man than I.

Rudey
04-20-2005, 12:11 PM
Originally posted by KSigkid
Popeye's chicken alone would keep me from being a vegetarian. You're obviously a stronger man than I.

What I miss the most is being able to order the crave case from white castle or like 40 tacos from taco bell with my boys and going to town.

-Rudey
--But given that I don't have the metabolism I used to, it's probably a good thing I don't do that.

Buddha MaMa
04-20-2005, 12:13 PM
i see i have to use widdle words with hotdamn. i did come in here to vent about ONE cop that was freaking annoying. now, that doesn't make all cops bad.

but i guess mt tone has said it all.

i am a bob marley dread wearing , weed smoking hippy with a sassy mouth.

someone pass the bong...i like the chronic from cali, it has an essential flavor. alot better then weed from new york.

wait...let me not joke around hotdamn, then he would consider me a drug dealer.

Peaches-n-Cream
04-20-2005, 12:19 PM
Bad Girls Bad Girls
Whatcha gonna do
Whatcha gonna do when they come for you.

Seriously though, that sucks.

Tom Earp
04-20-2005, 07:37 PM
Thank You Geeky P almost going to Legal School, but having delt with the people in front of Judges and Lawyers, You do get a feel of the scum bags and how they got away with crap. OH, that is on both sides of the law. The Bad, and The Legal Fleagals.

Hope you good luck in Your adventure of Law. When you get your shingle, what type are You going to try for? Criminal? Maybe Corporat, International, Death, Civil?

Is Money going to be the Main or doing the right thing? No Money but working for People?:)

OOPs, Din Din Is Calling!:cool:

GeekyPenguin
04-20-2005, 07:45 PM
Originally posted by Tom Earp
Thank You Geeky P almost going to Legal School, but having delt with the people in front of Judges and Lawyers, You do get a feel of the scum bags and how they got away with crap. OH, that is on both sides of the law. The Bad, and The Legal Fleagals.

Hope you good luck in Your adventure of Law. When you get your shingle, what type are You going to try for? Criminal? Maybe Corporat, International, Death, Civil?

Is Money going to be the Main or doing the right thing? No Money but working for People?:)

OOPs, Din Din Is Calling!:cool:

I want to go into labor law and potentially work for a union.

AKA_Monet
04-20-2005, 10:02 PM
Originally posted by Buddha MaMa
i am up here are marymount-fordham university in tarrytown

Originally posted by Buddha MaMa
i am up here are marymount-fordham university in tarrytown

Originally posted by Buddha MaMa
i am up here are marymount-fordham university in tarrytown

Originally posted by Buddha MaMa
i am up here are marymount-fordham university in tarrytown

Originally posted by Buddha MaMa
i am up here are marymount-fordham university in tarrytown

Where in the EFFIN' FCUK is Marymount-Fordham U. in Toontown?

Sorry, I just got a little SoCali '92 South Central Looter in a Riot flashback...

Besides, you pissed off some old fart that didn't have the fineness of your dreads to have some bullisht assed call made to a punk assed rentacop... Dude, you don't do a beat... You ain't in the slums... You ain't slanging The Shield and workin' your way up into FBI school... So EFF YOU!!!

Just like Bobby DeNiro said in that movie to Sly Stallone, "You, you're notta cop, I'ma cop--you're in law enforcement..."

Optimist Prime
04-21-2005, 01:11 AM
THEY KILLED OSCAR AND GOT AWAY WITH IT CUZ HE WAS MEXICAN FUCK THE HINRICO POLICE I WILL GREASE ANY OF THEM LITTLE PIGLETS I COME ACROSS



FUCK THE POLICE AND REN SAID IT WITH AUTHORITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

HotDamnImAPhiMu
04-21-2005, 07:48 AM
Buddha, drop the personal attacks.

When you get a little older you'll understand it's not the best way to win an argument.

Buddha MaMa
04-21-2005, 10:58 AM
Originally posted by HotDamnImAPhiMu
Buddha, drop the personal attacks.

When you get a little older you'll understand it's not the best way to win an argument.

baby boy,

handle it!!!

you assumed alot of shit about me while speed reading my thread.

so yeah i jumped on the defense and have every right to do so. it has nothing to go trying to win an agrument.

oh yeah it makes me feel happy to also curse you out.
i
:p

aphigirly
04-21-2005, 11:15 AM
i'm not sure blatently missrepresenting yourself with educational/working background is also the best way to win an argument either...........



now stepping out of the argument

HotDamnImAPhiMu
04-21-2005, 11:22 AM
Oh, right. When I said I was an expert. Right?

Rudey
04-21-2005, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by aphigirly
i'm not sure blatently missrepresenting yourself with educational/working background is also the best way to win an argument either...........



now stepping out of the argument


1) Don't step into the argument. Let Buddha Mama and HotDamnImAPhiMu work their own thing out.

2) Stop using the same stupid argument since it makes no sense.

-Rudey
--Fighting with words is useless ladies. It's time for fists.

KSig RC
04-21-2005, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by Rudey
1) Don't step into the argument. Let Buddha Mama and HotDamnImAPhiMu work their own thing out.

2) Stop using the same stupid argument since it makes no sense.

-Rudey
--Fighting with words is useless ladies. It's time for fists.

http://ravingseraph.com/photos/mud_wrestling/mud_wrestling_8-14-04-008.jpg

(it's really hard to find SFW images in this vein)

HotDamnImAPhiMu
04-21-2005, 12:48 PM
all in all, not a bad choice, though.

cashmoney
04-21-2005, 01:40 PM
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-7/766554/gay_thread.jpeg

Glitter650
04-21-2005, 02:12 PM
Back to the harassed by the COPS part of the thread. I was visiting my mom in Palo Alto a few years back (after I had moved to San Francico) and I was once pulled over because I didn't have my registration stickers. (they hadn't sent them to me yet, but I did have valid registration card inside the car, which I showed the officer.) FIRST of all the cop OPENED the PASSENGER side of my car on his own. as soon as he walked up, which I don't think is very cool.
He asks me if I knew it was expired blah blah I show him the card, but tell him the stickers haven't come yet. He looks at the card asks me "what I'm doing here" First of all Palo Alto his half an hour from San Francisco, big deal if I half an hour away from "home." second of all even though my registration said San Fran. my license still had my address in Palo Alto because I had JUST MOVED, so obviously I probably had some reason to be down there.
He proceeds to ask me to look at him, open and close my eyes, inquires if I'm on drugs (I have NEVER done ANY sort of drug IN MY LIFE) tells me something about my eyes tells him I'm on drugs. THEN he asks if I've ever been arrested ??!!! :eek: I tell him no. He proceeds to look around my car, (not touching anything, but definitely LOOKING for SOMETHING to comfirm his thoughts that I'm high or whatever) After he cant' find anything, he writes me a fix it ticket and lets me go.
I WAS SOOO TRAUMATIZED. I really don't know what made him give me such a hard time, but I certainly WAS NOT on drugs (any person on GC who has met me IRL can testify that I don't "look" like a druggie) I was dressed for a job interview that I'd had earlier that day, my car wasn't crappy or anything, so the only thing I can think is that he was going by the color of my skin. :mad: :( This is really the only problem I've had (seemingly) because of race and it made me upset.

aurora_borealis
04-21-2005, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by Glitter650
... (any person on GC who has met me IRL can testify that I don't "look" like a druggie) I was dressed for a job interview that I'd had earlier that day, my car wasn't crappy or anything, so the only thing I can think is that he was going by the color of my skin. :mad: :( This is really the only problem I've had (seemingly) because of race and it made me upset.

He could spot someone that drinks from a jug of Carlo Rossi sangria ;)

More than likely he was intimidated by your HOTNESS, and can't handle how hard you rock your Sphinx.

You're the first person to tell me about being profiled in the Bay Area. I've heard it from people in the Valley and Southern California, but not in our immediate area.

Glitter650
04-21-2005, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by aurora_borealis
He could spot someone that drinks from a jug of Carlo Rossi sangria ;)


Hey, I put my classy wine in crystal glasses :cool:

James
04-22-2005, 12:02 AM
HotDamn, I think what people are saying is that police are not supposed to generalize people by following stereotypes

Of course many of them do. And a lot of them believe that is being proactive in their jobs. For example, they pull you over after 10 PM at night and say you were swerving so they can see whether you are drunk. They shouldn't do that but they do.

Or they pull you over on a pretext to see whether you might be carrying drugs in the car.

Also, I don't think hotdamn was being intentionally misleading by saying she works in law enforcement. Its unfair to imply she is lying or something in an effort to make her arguments seem less valid.

I would feel harrassed also if I were in budha ma ma's position.

AKA_Monet
04-22-2005, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by James
HotDamn, I think what people are saying is that police are not supposed to generalize people by following stereotypes

Of course many of them do. And a lot of them believe that is being proactive in their jobs. For example, they pull you over after 10 PM at night and say you were swerving so they can see whether you are drunk. They shouldn't do that but they do.

Or they pull you over on a pretext to see whether you might be carrying drugs in the car.

Also, I don't think hotdamn was being intentionally misleading by saying she works in law enforcement. Its unfair to imply she is lying or something in an effort to make her arguments seem less valid.

I would feel harrassed also if I were in budha ma ma's position.

James--

Haven't heard from you in awhile!!! Where have you been... Yeah, it's been pretty looney around here, but some of us old GC-ers are still hanging out...

Anyhoo,

I think what gets many folks feathers ruffled up about cops when they get pulled over and a "perceived" harassment, is that either way we push it, officers ARE a representation of the LAWS that binds us--making them "GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS". Some of us folks have issues with the government overall and rebel against this large bureaucracy. Some of us can manuever through the system relatively unscathed...

My old assed parent's feathers were ruffled by a lady cop that acted like a biatch. She cursed my father out like he was some stoopid "boy" mentality, saying he was driving without his lights on, when he apparently was. Then my mother started to say something... Now, if you know anything about my mom, she's is absolutely CLUELESS as to how to deal with the police officers... She tries to "reason" with them by arguing "legitimately" with them--think little ole grandma speakin' to a late 20-something cop that obviously made a mistake in identity... No mom, just don't say chit...

As for me, I've been pulled over legitimately and received a ticket fairly for speeding... And I paid for it...

But, if I were haranguage by a cop, I'd be implementing the "driving while black" protocols no matter how asinine I think the cop is towards me...

Besides, you could always be like my crazy uncle that kept taking tax money from the government when he knew it wasn't his...

He said, "The government is NEVER wrong... Now, if you want to send me to jail and pay for my chemotherapy for my lungs because you kept sending me checks and I kept cashing them, then hey... But the governemtn is NEVER wrong..."

Those folks stopped sending him the checks... :rolleyes:

Rudey
04-24-2005, 02:37 AM
My friends and I were pulled over on the South Side of Chicago for being white. We were referred to as white boys and asked repeatedly who we were buying drugs from.

-Rudey
--All I wanted was a crave case from white castle :(

Buddha MaMa
04-24-2005, 03:40 AM
ya know...


i never implicated that this was harassment on race. i was just merely saying the this POOO-LICE officah really pressed the maryjane issue, because i had a bob marley shirt on with some loccs, that's all.

then one person went and blew it all out of proportion.

geeez!

AchtungBaby80
04-24-2005, 03:52 PM
So I guess the moral of the story is, if I'm ever pulled over I should not under any circumstances let the cop see my Grateful Dead keychain...because everybody knows that that automatically makes me a pot-smoking dirty hippie. Good to know.

Buddha MaMa
04-24-2005, 05:58 PM
Originally posted by AchtungBaby80
So I guess the moral of the story is, if I'm ever pulled over I should not under any circumstances let the cop see my Grateful Dead keychain...because everybody knows that that automatically makes me a pot-smoking dirty hippie. Good to know.

exactly....



also...make sure you not eating any popeyes's chicken, especially the chicken strips.

Rudey
04-24-2005, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by Buddha MaMa
exactly....



also...make sure you not eating any popeyes's chicken, especially the chicken strips.

Or white castle burgers :(

-Rudey

Tom Earp
04-24-2005, 06:54 PM
Just wonder if You were really were in need, what would be your firsts words would be? "Where are the Poooolice?".:confused:

Oh say a wreck, domestice violence, rape, fire, car theft, burgerly?

It happens everyday.:rolleyes: Usually the Guys in Blue are the first there cause they bust thier butts to get to someone in need.

Just be glad that there was someone there to check on you. The Guy could have been an Ass, it is in any job.

Lady Pi Phi
04-24-2005, 06:57 PM
Originally posted by Tom Earp
... The Guy could have been an Ass, it is in any job.

That's the thing Tom, no matter the job, yes there are asswholes, but there shouldn't be. If a cop makes a mistake or conducts him/herself inapporpriately, they should be corrected, admonished or reprimanded as the offence warrants.

Being a cop DOES NOT give you a licence to be an ass.

Tom Earp
04-24-2005, 07:12 PM
True that for sure. I knew a lot and some were dicks. I told several Officeres dont ever back me up. I tried hard to be one of the really good guys, but your attitude changes from the suzzoids that you had to deal with, or the good people that the scuzzoids screwed.:(

Yes, there is a way to report the way an Officer behaves, much more so today than when I was on the Dept. I dont respect asswhole Officers, and reported Myself when it happened.

I went to Internal Affairs 3 Times and was exhonerated 3 Times. Citizens do lie, Oh Well?:eek:

HotDamnImAPhiMu
04-25-2005, 01:21 PM
Originally posted by Buddha MaMa
baby boy,

handle it!!!

you assumed alot of shit about me while speed reading my thread.

so yeah i jumped on the defense and have every right to do so. it has nothing to go trying to win an agrument.

oh yeah it makes me feel happy to also curse you out.
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:p


I predict many more run ins with cops.


All of which, I'm sure, will not be your fault. :rolleyes:

Buddha MaMa
04-25-2005, 01:28 PM
hey so your a chic...

wow!!!





the aroma of marijuana will probably attract them to me, right?

pathetic!

HotDamnImAPhiMu
04-26-2005, 08:17 AM
take it to PM. I'm tired of your arguments, and they're pretty circuitious (i.e., nothing is ever your fault, etc.) and I'm sure everyone else is, too.