A question for the Pretty Boys from a Pretty Girl.....

[Ideal08]

I posted this in the APhiA forum, and thought I'd ask you guys, too! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

Ok, this is about these scantily clad women in these videos (and everywhere else). Ok, me and my ex were watching TV the other day, and this lady said that she felt that men were immature the way that they have these women dressed in these videos. My ex got offended and said that women need to understand that that is what men want to see. Ok, I understand that sex sells. I also understand that men like to look at these women dressed like this. I bear no double standards. The D'Angelo video was sexy as hell. However, I wouldn't want to see men like this in every video.

My question is this: What else do men find physically attractive/sexy about a woman besides her being half naked?

Is it the presentation? Like the Bilal video for Soul Sista. I think that's a sexy video that was done much more tastefully than these boody bouncing videos.

Tell me what yall think!!

[MIDWESTDIVA]

Good question Ideal08! I am anxiously awaiting responses as well. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

[NUPE4LIFE]

To answer your question, for me it's the eyes. They say that the eyes are the window to a person's soul. I believe in that cliche. Now on to the scantily clad chicks in videos. I love it! I'm being honest. Now some of those videos are down right ridiculous. For example, the Cash Money Millionaires "Project Chick". But for me if it's done in the right it's all good. I hate videos when you know they're using hood rats. I'm not sexy the videos are sexy though. I'm saying that their are a lot of half naked chicks in there that look good. But I have to agree that Bilal's video is sexy. The women in the video are not your typical video chicks. I think that's why I love it.

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[ManndingoNUPE]

I have to agree with N4L, the eyes are really sexy to me. As far as videos, I like to see scantily clad women, I can't sit here and say that I don't, but at some point I hope that a vidoe has more than just that.

Most brothers will answer that they like the half naked women. That's probably why I see so many brothers that I know when I hit Strip, ah I mean gentlemens's clubs here in DC. But as far as what I find sexy, I like women who are more naturaly beautiful. Someone who has to spend like hours in front of the mirror, and all that high maintenance, I don't find them all that attractive. Now she might be someone that I want to take to bed (sorry I am just being honest), but as far as her me being attracted to her, naw.

My friends always go for the highly visible, pretty girls that everyone is swett'n. I usually shoot for the classy sista with the natural and nicely toned body. That's what I find sexy.

MN

[This message has been edited by ManndingoNUPE (edited December 28, 2000).]

[Ideal08]

Thanks, yall!! I appreciate your honesty in answering the question. Skeeeeee-Yo!!

[Bobby Earl]

I am sitting here at work and reading some of the previous topics that have been discussed over the last few months. I ran across this one and I also wanted to respond to Ideal08.

Unfortunately, sex does sell. Now, I grew up listening to Run DMC, Eric B & Rakim, Doug E. Fresh, NWA, 2 Live Crew, Too Short, EPMD, etc... So, I developed an interest in the lyrics and the originality of the beat in the music. However, within the last five to 10 years, videos are all about nakedness. I would be telling a lie if I said that some of those skimpy dressed women don't get my attention. Nevertheless, it is definitely sending the wrong message to viewers. In my opinion, it puts more focus on a black woman's body and not enough focus on her true attributes:
1) mind
2) soul
3) heart
4) love
*5) strength

However, I do think that when most (not all) brothers reach a certain age, we do finally transcend from that one tracked mentality.
It takes some brothers longer than others... 30, 40 or even 50 years old.
The only bad thing is that they we end up hurting so many women before we are mature enough to know and do better.

But those are my thoughts on this topic.



Bobby Earl

[AKA2D '91]

Originally posted by Bobby Earl:
[B]However, I do think that when most (not all) brothers reach a certain age, we do finally transcend from that one tracked mentality.
It takes some brothers longer than others... 30, 40 or even 50 years old.
The only bad thing is that they we end up hurting so many women before we are mature enough to know and do better.

/B]

I AGREE!
MR. EARL, ARE YOU SPEAKING FROM EXPERIENCE?

[Bobby Earl]

Yes,
Unfortunately, I am speaking from experience. Sometimes, experience is the only way people will ever learn.

[Bobby Earl]

I have a question pertaining to this topic?

Do you think that the videos and other stereotypes of black women have an impact on how brothers see and interact with black women?

A lot of the videos and stereotypes emphasize on the physical attributes which might indirectly cause men to only see women for sex. This is what I meant about people getting hurt because one party is focused on longevity, understanding, and getting to know someone while the other is focused on sex. I know it takes more than a video to think this way, but the videos don't help.

I also don't like how the beautiful black women has always been visualized with "light skin", long hair, coke bottle shape, and brown or hazel eyes. By no means am I prejudice against light skinned ladies, but I just feel that there are many darker and less physically inclined sisters who have a lot to offer.

Now that I think ahout it, maybe this behavior is learned at a young age or influenced by the environment in which some men grow up under. I am from Louisiana and I know that a lot of brothers from Southern Louisiana (Lafayette, New Orleans, Baton Rouge, Hammond, etc..) have this mentality whether they choose to admit it or not.

Does anyone have some more input?

[AKA2D '91]

Bobby Earl,
in my louuusssyANA accent...
WHO YO PEOPLE?

I AM FROM LOUISIANA, TOO... http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif

[Bobby Earl]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by AKA2D '91:

WHO YO PEOPLE?


AKA2D'91,
I am a little throwed off. What do you mean by "Why Yo People?" Please edumacate me further...

If you are from the boot, you know that most brothers are crazy about those red-bones...and anything less is uncivilized.

[AKA2D '91]

LOL...I EDUMACATE for a living!

where are you from in LA?

Yes, I do know that ESPECIALLY, here in New Orleans, they LOVE those "down the bayou" peeps...

in other words, SERIOUS redbone! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif

[Bobby Earl]

I am from a very small town called Bastrop (about 15 miles from Monroe). I have only been in the BR for about 2 and half years. I think I first witnessed this epidemic when I went to Northwestern. It's really not that serious when I think about it, but it is a little unfortunate. I have seen some of the most gorgeous creatures known to man and many of them were not red bones.
To each his own; I guess.

Where are you from AKA2D '91? Did you cross in 91? If so, I know a few of your sands from Northeast Lousiana University (Monroe) that crossed in 91.

[Bobby Earl]

AKA2D'01

What does ROFTLMAO and LOL mean?
As I said earlier, I am a little throwed off so I must have been absent on the day the correspondance with the meaning of those two abbreviations was issued out.

Is this something that I should know or is it something I don't need to know?

Help me out educator..

[AKA2D '91]

If you are going to be a REGULAR on THIS or ANY internet chat forum, you need to know this...

ROTFL=rolling on the floor laughing
ROTFLMAO= rolling on the floor laughing my AZZ OFF
LOL=laughing out loud
IMHO= in my honest opinion
JMO= just my opinion

HEY, IT'S 91! NOT 'O1 http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif

OH, I GUESS YOU WILL WANT TO KNOW HOW TO ADD THE "SMILIES" NEXT! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/confused.gif

um, NUPES, help educate your brother, if I have left any out! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif

[This message has been edited by AKA2D '91 (edited January 08, 2001).]

[Bobby Earl]

I believe I said '91 not '01. I know some AKAs who crossed in '91 that you may or may not know.

Thanks for the legend to this map. I will use it in the future. Why do I need my frat to educate me, when I have you to do that, huh?

Thanks Again...

[Bobby Earl]

Guess what AKA2D '91?

I want to know how to do the smiles...

Thanks in advance...

[AKA2D '91]

STEP ONE: WHEN YOU POST A REPLY, YOU SHOULD SEE THE "SMILIES" LEGEND TO YOUR LEFT

STEP TWO: CLICK THERE

STEP THREE: FIND WHAT "SMILIE" YOU WANT, COPY THE "CODE" EXACTLY AS IT IS!

STEP FOUR: CLICK SUBMIT REPLY

STEP FIVE: PRESTO! THAT'S IT!

[Bobby Earl]

Gracious... http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif

[Ideal08]

Experience is definitely the best teacher. Thanks for your honest and candid response, Bobby Earl.

[Ideal08]

Originally posted by Bobby Earl:
I have a question pertaining to this topic?

Do you think that the videos and other stereotypes of black women have an impact on how brothers see and interact with black women?

A lot of the videos and stereotypes emphasize on the physical attributes which might indirectly cause men to only see women for sex. This is what I meant about people getting hurt because one party is focused on longevity, understanding, and getting to know someone while the other is focused on sex. I know it takes more than a video to think this way, but the videos don't help.

I also don't like how the beautiful black women has always been visualized with "light skin", long hair, coke bottle shape, and brown or hazel eyes. By no means am I prejudice against light skinned ladies, but I just feel that there are many darker and less physically inclined sisters who have a lot to offer.

Now that I think ahout it, maybe this behavior is learned at a young age or influenced by the environment in which some men grow up under. I am from Louisiana and I know that a lot of brothers from Southern Louisiana (Lafayette, New Orleans, Baton Rouge, Hammond, etc..) have this mentality whether they choose to admit it or not.

Does anyone have some more input?

B.E. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif, in response to your question, I'm not sure how this will affect Black men's interaction with Black women. I do agree, though, that the videos don't help. I think that it's a matter of maturity. At least I would hope that by a certain age, men know what they want in a woman and in a relationship. I think the videos, like the Gentleman Clubs, simply create a fantasy. At a young age, men might chase around these type of women, but as they mature, they realize they want more than just T&A.

I do get a little tired of Black women's beauty being showcased as only light skinned, long hair, and perfect figure. I'm glad that women like Kelly Price, Queen Latifah, and Jill Scott are representing for us big girls! Unfortunately, as far as skin complexion, a lot of people still think that the darker you are the more unnattractive you are. I guess it's all about preferences. I love my chocolate skin, and wouldn't trade it for all the attention in the world. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

Now, as far as men looking to women solely for sex, I think that's a given, anyway, regardless of the videos. But then again, I am cynical, biased, and bitter (I can admit that now http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif).

[Bobby Earl]

Originally posted by Ideal08:
B.E. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gifBut then again, I am cynical, biased, and bitter (I can admit that now http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif).

I think you need a hug Ideal08. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif (just kidding)

I also share your opinion...
Thanks for the input.

[1908Revelations]

TTT

just incase any new GC guys have anything to say. We wanna know what you think:)

[tld221]

TTT

just incase any new GC guys have anything to say. We wanna know what you think:)

yessssssssss i love revival threads!

[1908Revelations]

yessssssssss i love revival threads!

Meeeeee too! This thread is waayyyyy old. The guys betta get to work!

[PrettyBoy]

I posted this in the APhiA forum, and thought I'd ask you guys, too! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

Ok, this is about these scantily clad women in these videos (and everywhere else). Ok, me and my ex were watching TV the other day, and this lady said that she felt that men were immature the way that they have these women dressed in these videos. My ex got offended and said that women need to understand that that is what men want to see. Ok, I understand that sex sells. I also understand that men like to look at these women dressed like this. I bear no double standards. The D'Angelo video was sexy as hell. However, I wouldn't want to see men like this in every video.

My question is this: What else do men find physically attractive/sexy about a woman besides her being half naked?

Is it the presentation? Like the Bilal video for Soul Sista. I think that's a sexy video that was done much more tastefully than these boody bouncing videos.

Tell me what yall think!!
I really don't find it attractive to see half naked women in videos. I think it's very unattractive. I wouldn't mind seeing my own woman half naked or better yet, butt naked in front of me in my apt. where only I can see her. I'm just not into provocative dressing women in public. It's a really big turn off for me. I guess that's why I don't watch those videos. Everyone is different though.

[KAPPAtivating]

I agree^^^! Half naked women in the videos are physically attractive, but to me you must be SEXY. Sexy is in the way a woman moves her body and talks with confidence (for me). I would much rather her walk in a room and be noticed by her walk instead of what she ISN'T wearing!;)

[black_princess]

I really don't find it attractive to see half naked women in videos. I think it's very unattractive. I wouldn't mind seeing my own woman half naked or better yet, butt naked in front of me in my apt. where only I can see her. I'm just not into provocative dressing women in public. It's a really big turn off for me. I guess that's why I don't watch those videos. Everyone is different though.

2 Quick questions for u or any of the other guys that want to answer . . . .

1: so, in ur mind what is provocative dress? Since spring & summer's coming up, how do u decipher what is provacative and what is dressing for the weather, 'cause when it's hot I know I definately wear less. :D

2: I was once told buy a guy that women are immediatly put into categories when men meet them is that true ???

[ziasha07]

2 Quick questions for u or any of the other guys that want to answer . . . .

2: I was once told buy a guy that women are immediatly put into categories when men meet them is that true ???

I'd like to know the answer to that as well.

I've got another.

3: What is it that you notice about a female when you first see her. Or better yet, what is it that sets her apart from other females that may be in the area around her or are out with her (i.e. a clique of friends)?

[black_princess]

Looks like the "ask a man a question" thread in the Omega forum might be revived here :D but seriously inquiring minds would luuuuve to know the answers to these questions . .. don't be shy gentlemen, u won't be giving up to much info on "the game" ;)

[PrettyBoy]

2 Quick questions for u or any of the other guys that want to answer . . . .

1: so, in ur mind what is provocative dress? Since spring & summer's coming up, how do u decipher what is provacative and what is dressing for the weather, 'cause when it's hot I know I definately wear less. :D

2: I was once told buy a guy that women are immediatly put into categories when men meet them is that true ???
black_princess I should have been the last person to ask this question to, but you asked so here's my answers. What I consider provacative:

1. Showing too much cleavage
2. Mini skirts
3. Daisy Dukes
4. Anklets
5. Tight painted on jeans
6. Come screw me heals (I'll have to explain that)
7. Stilettos
8. A woman who has a big butt and knows it and tries to wear whatever to show it off.

9. Showing her stomach, period. In any way.

There's more, but I pretty much can see them coming a mile away.
I can't speak for all men, but for me, yes I do have categories I put women in. I have three categories.

1. Strictly a friend
2. A slut (someone I don't even want to be around at all)
3. A long term faithful (one man) girlfriend (a classy woman who doesn't have to show body parts to be beautiful)

[KAPPAtivating]

For me, I think too provocative is when your ta-ta's are almost out of the shirt. Also if your skirt is so short that when you sit down we see your underwear (or lack of)....same goes for jeans too! The first thing I notice about a woman is her smile. I get a visual of what pictures would be like if we took them together.:D I have categories as well and they go like this:

1. strictly a friend (who lets me know how to decipher a woman's language)
2. the "meet my family" girl
3. "wouldn't let you meet the family" girl
4. "she might be nasty" girl

[christiangirl]

black_princess I should have been the last person to ask this question to, but you asked so here's my answers. What I consider provacative:
4. Anklets


What on earth is provacative about an anklet? :confused:

[PrettyBoy]

For me, I think too provocative is when your ta-ta's are almost out of the shirt. Also if your skirt is so short that when you sit down we see your underwear (or lack of)....same goes for jeans too! The first thing I notice about a woman is her smile. I get a visual of what pictures would be like if we took them together.:D I have categories as well and they go like this:

1. strictly a friend (who lets me know how to decipher a woman's language)
2. the "meet my family" girl
3. "wouldn't let you meet the family" girl
4. "she might be nasty" girl
LOL. Great categories Nupe! :D

[ziasha07]

What on earth is provacative about an anklet? :confused:

Seriously. That's what I'd like to know.

[PrettyBoy]

I just don't like ankle bracelets. What purpose do they serve? Everyone has their own opinion, but to me it looks rather ghetto.

I'm not saying women who wear them are trashy and ghetto, it just looks that way to me and women who wear them are put into the friend category.

[1908Revelations]

What on earth is provacative about an anklet? :confused:

I think it is moreso a thing that was passed along of 'things to look out for' a long time ago, most people don't feel like that about ankle bracelets now, but this is an opinion based thing. I don't care for anklebraclets myself.

One of my really good friends (just friends) thinks like PB in a sense. It dosen't bother any of us, because that is a preference.

[PrettyBoy]

I think it is moreso a thing that was passed along of 'things to look out for' a long time ago, most people don't feel like that about ankle bracelets now, but this is an opinion based thing. I don't care for anklebraclets myself.

One of my really good friends (just friends) thinks like PB in a sense. It dosen't bother any of us, because that is a preference.
If I brought a woman home to meet the parents and they saw the ankle bracelet, that would be bad news, but that's not why I don't like them. It just says something to me about the girl, that's all.

[ziasha07]

If I brought a woman home to meet the parents and they saw the ankle bracelet, that would be bad news, but that's not why I don't like them. It just says something to me about the girl, that's all.

I can understand that. One day when I was around eleven or twelve, I asked my mother if I could get an ankle bracelet and she told me they were for older girls or grown up women or something along those lines.

I just didn't quite realize those thoughts were held. Love GC! You learn something new everyday!:D

[PrettyBoy]

I can understand that. One day when I was around eleven or twelve, I asked my mother if I could get an ankle bracelet and she told me they were for older girls or grown up women or something along those lines.

I just didn't quite realize those thoughts were held. Love GC! You learn something new everyday!:D
A lot of women like it. I hate it.

[1908Revelations]

If I brought a woman home to meet the parents and they saw the ankle bracelet, that would be bad news, but that's not why I don't like them. It just says something to me about the girl, that's all.

WOuld it be safe to assume that a reason you don't like ankle braceltes is because you know how your parents feel, so it is in a way a part of your thinking as well? I am not knocking what you feel, because I won't wear certain jewelery if it is too big or draw too much attention.

[PrettyBoy]

WOuld it be safe to assume that a reason you don't like ankle braceltes is because you know how your parents feel, so it is in a way a part of your thinking as well? I am not knocking what you feel, because I won't wear certain jewelery if it is too big or draw too much attention.
No, I didn't know my dad didn't like them until I told him how much I hated them. He laughed and said he didn't like them either. I'm not sure how my mom feels about them. I guess the women that wear them just are the total opposite of me, and I like more plain, nerdy women who are very pretty but don't need to wear anything loud or provacative to look beautiful. You can't always judge a book by it's cover, but sometimes outer appearance has a reflection on the inner beauty too.

[KAPPAtivating]

I like the "natural" look too. Along the lines of Gabrielle Union, Halle Berry, and Sania Lathan. They have that, "I look sexy in the morning" look to me! That's what turns me on. Tattoo placement is a big thing for me too! I once met this girl in a club and we went on the first date. Well, along the lines of conversation came tattoos! So she asked about mine and I told her where they are (two on each arm and one on my chest). Needless to say I asked where hers was. She takes off her jacket (she was wearing a backless shirt underneath) and her tattoo went from shoulder to shoulder and from the top of her back to the bottom! I was like :eek: !

[PrettyBoy]

I like the "natural" look too. Along the lines of Gabrielle Union, Halle Berry, and Sania Lathan. They have that, "I look sexy in the morning" look to me! That's what turns me on. Tattoo placement is a big thing for me too! I once met this girl in a club and we went on the first date. Well, along the lines of conversation came tattoos! So she asked about mine and I told her where they are (two on each arm and one on my chest). Needless to say I asked where hers was. She takes off her jacket (she was wearing a backless shirt underneath) and her tattoo went from shoulder to shoulder and from the top of her back to the bottom! I was like :eek: !
LMAO at your reaction to the tattoo.:D

[KAPPAtivating]

Needless to say, that was the LAST date!

[PrettyBoy]

Needless to say, that was the LAST date!
LOL. You're killing me over here.:D

Hey Nupe, you have the best sigs. That one is smooth, and very KAY.:D

[KAPPAtivating]

The funny thing is that I have had that one since High School! My friends used to be like..."what the hell is he gonna come up with next?!" Thanks though!

[PrettyBoy]

The funny thing is that I have had that one since High School! My friends used to be like..."what the hell is he gonna come up with next?!" Thanks though!
LOL.

Phi Nupie

[christiangirl]

I can understand that. One day when I was around eleven or twelve, I asked my mother if I could get an ankle bracelet and she told me they were for older girls or grown up women or something along those lines.

That is SO WEIRD, I stopped wearing anklets around age 12. They were really trendy when I was that age, but the trend died out and I haven't really seen them since high school (and even that was once in a blue moon).

...her tattoo went from shoulder to shoulder and from the top of her back to the bottom! I was like :eek: !

This is made me :eek: at the computer! I bet you she's gonna wake up one morning and say "What the hell was I thinking?????"

[1908Revelations]

No, I didn't know my dad didn't like them until I told him how much I hated them. He laughed and said he didn't like them either. I'm not sure how my mom feels about them. I guess the women that wear them just are the total opposite of me, and I like more plain, nerdy women who are very pretty but don't need to wear anything loud or provacative to look beautiful. You can't always judge a book by it's cover, but sometimes outer appearance has a reflection on the inner beauty too.
OK...I see.

I agree w/ you aboyt the judging a book by the cover.

[PrettyBoy]

OK...I see.

I agree w/ you aboyt the judging a book by the cover.
A book is a book. A woman is a woman.:D

[BlueReign]

I just don't like ankle bracelets. What purpose do they serve? Everyone has their own opinion, but to me it looks rather ghetto.

I'm not saying women who wear them are trashy and ghetto, it just looks that way to me and women who wear them are put into the friend category.

Then what purpose does a wrist bracelet serve?
:confused:

[PrettyBoy]

Then what purpose does a wrist bracelet serve?
:confused:
I'm not sure. I guess so people can see how nice it looks on someone's wrist. Those don't bother me. I just don't like the ankle bracelets. To me, it looks fast.

[IncontRHOllable]

I'm not sure. I guess so people can see how nice it looks on someone's wrist. Those don't bother me. I just don't like the ankle bracelets. To me, it looks fast.

Just had to ask you, is it possible that your negative view of ankle bracelets was influenced by a church? I'm asking because when I was growing up I used to attend this "holiness" church and the old school religified folk used to say that anklets are for prostitutes. I used to believe that until I got out into the real world and found that to be very far from reality. It's funny but one time(after I left that church and joined the church where I attend now) I actually wore an anklet when I went to their church picnic and the older folk was like :eek: ( I had the anklet on with my long skirt) The next thing I know my cuz told me they started telling the youth of the church to stay away from me because I had let the world corrupt me, and they got all of that from me wearing an ankle bracelet. I guess seeing a girl with a long skirt or capri pants on with an anklet would send a signal that she is fass :confused: but in my case that judgment would be 100% FALSE.

[ladygreek]

^^^^Used to wear a dainty DST 14K gold anklet until the clasp broke. Will be getting it fixed for the summer. Has always loved pretty anklets.

[kissy324]

Hmmmm.... this is the first that I've heard of the anklet stereotype. I've been wearing anklets for years and I have never had anyone look down upon me because of it. I've worn them to various churches, on dates, etc... and it's never been a problem. I simply view anklets as accessories. But this is very interesting to know that people have this belief about anklets.

[delph998]

Yeah, I know people who wear ankle bracelets too and they look tasteful to me.

My question is: what kind of stilettos are you referring to because I always wear stilettos as I'm sure most of the women on GC are as well.

[black_princess]

So what does all of this mean . . .that I need to take off my ancle bracelet??? :confused: Like I've probably said on another board, my family is from the U.S Virgin Islands, and in St. Thomas from the young infant to the old great grandmother and everyone in between, about 99.99% of people there wear jewlery and ancle bracelets are not uncommon. I mean having a lot of gold jewlery and custom pieces are just part of the style.
Since Kindergarten, I've worn a lot of gold jewelry. Not because i'm trying to be fast, extra bold, ghetto, or to be seen . .. but rather because it's part of my culture & I like the way gold looks on my nice brown skin.:)

I have never gotten any flack for my jewelry or my ancle bracelet (that I've been wearing for about a year now) . . . and hopefully I never will, 'cause if a dude is willing to look and me a take a pass before he even gets to know me, then he clearly doesn't want to meet a beautiful, welll educated, honest young woman, with a strong moral compass plus plethora of other skills . . . I am more than willing to let him miss out :p

[KAPital PHINUst]

For me, it's being able to talk about a variety of topics intelligently and without expecting everyone to have the same viewpoint as her.

Someone who can disagree constructively, without having to resort to personal attacks.

Someone who's knowledge of news and current events go beyond celebrity gossip/scandals and reality show goings-on. Those who listen to NPR and BBC is a major plus (REAL NEWS sources), along with those who keep up with economic news and/or read The Economist and Mother Jones. Again, they don't have to do all these things, but they must be aware of current news from a variety of sources, not just CNN and Fox News. But I digress....

Another major turn-on is those who have conservative family values with no feminist attitudes or traits (ex. women with hyphenated names is a red flag). Of course, those who dress conservatively is a major turn on for me; I like to be greeted at the door by a woman in a June Cleaver dress with pearls (yeah, I like AKAs :p :D) over a woman coming to the door with Saran Wrap and stiletto heels. But that's just me, though. YMMV.

[delph998]

Another major turn-on is those who have conservative family values with no feminist attitudes or traits (ex. women with hyphenated names is a red flag). Of course, those who dress conservatively is a major turn on for me; I like to be greeted at the door by a woman in a June Cleaver dress with pearls (yeah, I like AKAs :p :D) over a woman coming to the door with Saran Wrap and stiletto heels. But that's just me, though. YMMV.

WOW! :eek:

[Live_Wire17]

^^^^Used to wear a dainty DST 14K gold anklet until the clasp broke. Will be getting it fixed for the summer. Has always loved pretty anklets.

I love them too Soror. Where did you get it?:confused:

[Live_Wire17]

For me, it's being able to talk about a variety of topics intelligently and without expecting everyone to have the same viewpoint as her.

Someone who can disagree constructively, without having to resort to personal attacks.

Someone who's knowledge of news and current events go beyond celebrity gossip/scandals and reality show goings-on. Those who listen to NPR and BBC is a major plus (REAL NEWS sources), along with those who keep up with economic news and/or read The Economist and Mother Jones. Again, they don't have to do all these things, but they must be aware of current news from a variety of sources, not just CNN and Fox News. But I digress....

Sounds fine:cool:...it is the rest that scares me.

Another major turn-on is those who have conservative family values with no feminist attitudes or traits (ex. women with hyphenated names is a red flag).

This would be me:p I am a daddy's girl and found it hard to let go of the name but it doesn't mean I love my Nupe any less only that he is not my DEFINITION BUT RATHER MY COMPLIMENT.:D

[PrettyBoy]

Just had to ask you, is it possible that your negative view of ankle bracelets was influenced by a church? I'm asking because when I was growing up I used to attend this "holiness" church and the old school religified folk used to say that anklets are for prostitutes. I used to believe that until I got out into the real world and found that to be very far from reality. It's funny but one time(after I left that church and joined the church where I attend now) I actually wore an anklet when I went to their church picnic and the older folk was like :eek: ( I had the anklet on with my long skirt) The next thing I know my cuz told me they started telling the youth of the church to stay away from me because I had let the world corrupt me, and they got all of that from me wearing an ankle bracelet. I guess seeing a girl with a long skirt or capri pants on with an anklet would send a signal that she is fass :confused: but in my case that judgment would be 100% FALSE.
No, I didn't hear it from the church. I just hate it and I think it looks stupid as hell. It looks trashy and the women that I've seen wear them were all hoes. I can't say you or any other woman that I've never met are like that, but I'm just speaking on what I've seen. It's like buying a car that doesn't last. I wouldn't buy a car from that same company anymore if the 1st car I bought gave me problems. For the women who want to wear them that's cool. I just won't be with them, that's all. I'm sure some guys like it, but I sure as hell don't. Different strokes for different folks.

[PrettyBoy]

Yeah, I know people who wear ankle bracelets too and they look tasteful to me.

My question is: what kind of stilettos are you referring to because I always wear stilettos as I'm sure most of the women on GC are as well.
I'm just not interested in women that wear stilettos. They make her look like a slut to me.

[PrettyBoy]

For me, it's being able to talk about a variety of topics intelligently and without expecting everyone to have the same viewpoint as her.

Someone who can disagree constructively, without having to resort to personal attacks.

Someone who's knowledge of news and current events go beyond celebrity gossip/scandals and reality show goings-on. Those who listen to NPR and BBC is a major plus (REAL NEWS sources), along with those who keep up with economic news and/or read The Economist and Mother Jones. Again, they don't have to do all these things, but they must be aware of current news from a variety of sources, not just CNN and Fox News. But I digress....

Another major turn-on is those who have conservative family values with no feminist attitudes or traits (ex. women with hyphenated names is a red flag). Of course, those who dress conservatively is a major turn on for me; I like to be greeted at the door by a woman in a June Cleaver dress with pearls (yeah, I like AKAs :p :D) over a woman coming to the door with Saran Wrap and stiletto heels. But that's just me, though. YMMV.
Damn, Nupe. Maybe it's just a fraternity thing, because I like the conservative look too. I love the June Cleaver look. I can't stand stilettos or clothes that look like they've been painted on. TRASH.

[ladygreek]

I love them too Soror. Where did you get it?:confused:
Fourteen Karat Plus. :D

[ladygreek]

Yeah, I know people who wear ankle bracelets too and they look tasteful to me.

My question is: what kind of stilettos are you referring to because I always wear stilettos as I'm sure most of the women on GC are as well.
Not me, I can't walk in them. :D But they do look good on you. They tend to flatter a woman's legs, imo.

[ladygreek]

No, I didn't hear it from the church. I just hate it and I think it looks stupid as hell. It looks trashy and the women that I've seen wear them were all hoes. I can't say you or any other woman that I've never met are like that, but I'm just speaking on what I've seen. It's like buying a car that doesn't last. I wouldn't buy a car from that same company anymore if the 1st car I bought gave me problems. For the women who want to wear them that's cool. I just won't be with them, that's all. I'm sure some guys like it, but I sure as hell don't. Different strokes for different folks.
Then my daughter is safe. LOL

[ladygreek]

Damn, Nupe. Maybe it's just a fraternity thing, because I like the conservative look too. I love the June Cleaver look. I can't stand stilettos or clothes that look like they've been painted on. TRASH.
Naw, dude. I know plenty of Kappas that like women in stilettos and wouldn't mind be greeted at the door by his woman in saran wrap. Maybe it's just a PB and RM thing.

[KAPPAtivating]

I was just having this conversation with my brother earlier today. I don't equate SEXY with being naked, or in tight clothes. My woman can be sexy in pajamas or anything. Sexy is the way you walk, the way you talk, and the confidence a woman has. I did used to have a thing for a woman in boots though:D If a woman has on a high heel with a pair of business slacks or something...then that is cool. But I don't wanna see your azz if you bend over(I might look, but you won't be my woman)!

[PrettyBoy]

I don't respect women that wear that crap. They think men like it but most men just want to see them with their panites around their ankles. If I brought home a woman that was dressed like anything near that, my parents would be like. :eek:

I like women who respect themselves and dress with class. Those are the ones I bring home too meet the parents.

[ziasha07]

I don't respect women that wear that crap. They think men like it but most men just want to see them with their panites around their ankles. If I brought home a woman that was dressed like anything near that, my parents would be like. :eek:

I like women who respect themselves and dress with class. Those are the ones I bring home too meet the parents.

How come when most men realize this they are usually past the college age and ready to settle down? Young men today in the 18-22 range generally run for "Saran Wrap" and stiletto clad women instead of the more conservatively dressed ones. It sends the message that female is undesireable unless half of her body is hanging out or squeezed into a tight outfit.

[PrettyBoy]

How come when most men realize this they are usually past the college age and ready to settle down? Young men today in the 18-22 range generally run for "Saran Wrap" and stiletto clad women instead of the more conservatively dressed ones.
I've been this way(the committed type) since I hit puberty. I have never, ever liked women that wear that trash. Seriously, and I haven't changed and I won't change. Plus, a lot of young women like guys like the ones you just mentioned anyway.

[PrettyBoy]

fishnet stockings
stilettos
anklets
tight clothes of any type
tattoos
body piercings anywhere except the ears
come screw me shoes
multiple bracelets on the wrist
too much make up
weaves
long fake finger nails

A woman that wears any of the above plus me=none.

[ziasha07]

I've been this way(the committed type) since I hit puberty. I have never, ever liked women that wear that trash. Seriously, and I haven't changed and I won't change. Plus, a lot of young women like guys like the ones you just mentioned anyway.

True, but when you first meet/see a guy, how are you to know that they are the type guy that prefers scantily clad women?

PB I feel that you are the last of a dying breed if you've been that way since puberty.

[ziasha07]

fishnet stockings
stilettos
anklets
tight clothes of any type
tattoos
body piercings anywhere except the ears
come screw me shoes
multiple bracelets on the wrist
too much make up
weaves
long fake finger nails

A woman that wears any of the above plus me=none.




This list is considerable understanding the fact that you prefer conservative women but weave and multiple bracelets?

[PrettyBoy]

True, but when you first meet/see a guy, how are you to know that they are the type guy that prefers scantily clad women?

PB I feel that you are the last of a dying breed if you've been that way since puberty.
No I'm not the last of a dying breed. There's a lot of nice men out there, the problem is a lot of women just don't want them. They want that low down trifling joker who's screwed several women and have other women on the side,while in a relationship.

Yes I have always been a one woman man since puberty. I've never even had the desire to want to be with more than one woman, and I know I never will. Fast dressing women are a big turn off for me. Women like that can't even get me aroused. Why do people have to sleep with everyone they meet? What are they trying to prove?

[PrettyBoy]

This list is considerable understanding the fact that you prefer conservative women but weave and multiple bracelets?
Nope, I don't like hair weaves, and I won't date women who wear them. I'm not saying women who wear them are hoes though, I just don't find it attractive. One bracelet is cool, but I don't like several clanging around on her wrist. That's just my preference.

[delph998]

Yes I have always been a one woman man since puberty. I've never even had the desire to be with more than one woman, and I know I never will. Fast dressing women are a big turn off for me. Women like that can't even get me aroused. Why do people have to sleep with everyone they meet? What are they trying to prove?

Some women feel that having sex with a man will prove how much she lves him OR will make that man fall in love with her.

[PrettyBoy]

Some women feel that having sex with a man will prove how much she lves him OR will make that man fall in love with her.
And that's a poor excuse that's stupid as hell. 9 times out of 10 once the joker gets the nookie, he's gone and she's standing there looking like an idiot with her panties around her ankles.

[PrettyBoy]

True, but when you first meet/see a guy, how are you to know that they are the type guy that prefers scantily clad women?

PB I feel that you are the last of a dying breed if you've been that way since puberty.
You asked how are you supposed to know when you 1st meet a guy if he's that way?

Time will tell. Hold back on the draws and see how long he hangs around. If he truely likes you and only you, he'll stay. If he just wants the draws, he'll get it from a skanky dressed women who's loose as hell.

[ziasha07]

No I'm not the last of a dying breed. There's a lot of nice men out there, the problem is a lot of women just don't want them. They want that low down trifling joker who's screwed several women and have other women on the side,while in a relationship.

Yes I have always been a one woman man since puberty. I've never even had the desire to want to be with more than one woman, and I know I never will. Fast dressing women are a big turn off for me. Women like that can't even get me aroused. Why do people have to sleep with everyone they meet? What are they trying to prove?

Nice guys have never finished last in my book. They're just so shy and so am I so it never works. I've never persued the well known or "extra fine" dudes. I find them cocky and aggrivating. Plus, if you are the only guy I'm seeing, why am I not the only female you're seeing. That seems a little shady to me.

And that's a poor excuse that's stupid as hell. 9 times out of 10 once the joker gets the nookie, he's gone and she's standing there looking like an idiot with her panties around her ankles.

Lmao! The way you phrased this was too funny. Seriously, I have seen this happen to girls before. So wrong.

*Insert plug/hijack for Abstinence here*

[ziasha07]

You asked how are you supposed to know when you 1st meet a guy if he's that way?

Time will tell. Hold back on the draws and see how long he hangs around. If he truely likes you and only you, he'll stay. If he just wants the draws, he'll get it from a skanky dressed women who's loose as hell.

Hence the quote in my signature "Damn, she pressed the easy button..." This would apply to females who take the easy way out when getting a man. Stole this from the Facebook group (http://hs.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2762490474):

"For those who are considered to be a challenge and have been passed over or given up on for a "Loser", or unworthy person. You know, those chicks who keep the books closed and legs and or mouth open!!! This group is also for anyone who has been passed over or overlooked and their position was given to a "less qualified" person because someone took the easy way out....They Pressed the Easy Button!!!!!"

[PrettyBoy]

Nice guys have never finished last in my book. They're just so shy and so am I so it never works. I've never persued the well known or "extra fine" dudes. I find them cocky and aggrivating. Plus, if you are the only guy I'm seeing, why am I not the only female you're seeing. That seems a little shady to me.



Lmao! The way you phrased this was too funny. Seriously, I have seen this happen to girls before. So wrong.

*Insert plug/hijack for Abstinence here*
Yup, it's very shady, but a lot of men do it or have done it. They like to screw. They can't seem to stay with one woman only. "Long Term."

The silly part about it is these dumb women take these trifling jokers back everytime without fail, then when they get older have the nerve to want a nice guy. Please.:rolleyes: I can't stand a used up woman that every dude has been with. That's trifling. Like I said in a previous thread, anything more than 3 and she can forget it.

Being with only one women is such a turn on for me, because I only want her.

[christiangirl]

So what EXACTLY is a "come screw me shoe" :confused:

[PrettyBoy]

So what EXACTLY is a "come screw me shoe" :confused:
The high heels that have straps wrapped around the foot where most of the foot is showing. Women usually where them bare foot. I don't know the names of womens shoes or clothes so I can only describe them. Not sure what these are called, all I know is I don't like them.

[christiangirl]

Like this?

http://www.zappos.com/images/586/7133586/73147-t.jpg

[PrettyBoy]

Like this?

http://www.zappos.com/images/586/7133586/73147-t.jpg
Yesssssss!!!!! Exactly!!! I hate those.

[christiangirl]

Yesssssss!!!!! Exactly!!! I hate those.

In that case, my shoes told me to tell you that the last thing we'd say to you or any other male is "come screw me." :rolleyes:

[PrettyBoy]

In that case, my shoes told me to tell you that the last thing we'd say to you or any other male is "come screw me." :rolleyes:
That's cool, and I think that's great you're that way. I hope you continue to respect yourself by staying that way until you meet a guy that you think is right for you. I just don't find it attractive. That's all. Everyone has their own type. Women that dress in those shoes simply just aren't my type.

[ziasha07]

Those look like shoes someone wear to prom or some type of formal event.

PB you would be so put off by some of the dresses I saw this year. Some of my class mates were scantily clad at best.

[christiangirl]

Then let's find a different name for them, shall we? My shoes are very free-spirited...they don't like labels. ;) As for finding a woman who doesn't own any shoes similar...well, good luck with that.

Z, I love how that group is "global by popular demand" yet it only has 12 members! :D

ETA: You know, most of the women I know who fit that list (tattoos, small piercings) were some of the most decent people I knew. My roommate was an extremely modest dresser and cheated on her boyfriend with 3 different guys in a month. :eek: In my experience, it's been the quiet, modest ones you gotta watch out for. Can't really trust anybody, can you? :confused:

[PrettyBoy]

Those look like shoes someone wear to prom or some type of formal event.

PB you would be so put off by some of the dresses I saw this year. Some of my class mates were scantily clad at best.
Ladies, if that's what you like, then that's what you like. I've never met any of you. Hey, you might be great women. Based on CG's (christiangirl's) post I know she is. All I'm saying is that kind of dress style isn't what I'm attracted to and I won't date women who wear this. Some guys like it. I just don't. I'm really into the conservative look. I look very conservative and I like a woman who compliments me. More importantly we have to be able to compliment each other.

[christiangirl]

So what do you like to wear? I have a mental picture of you, but what's your style?

[PrettyBoy]

So what do you like to wear? I have a mental picture of you, but what's your style?
Not sure how to describe myself in words. I guess I can start with my glasses, nothing too outlandish. Pretty straight forward. Just very conservative. My fraternity brothers and my barber think I look like a nerd.

[christiangirl]

Not sure how to describe myself in words. I guess I can start with my glasses, nothing too outlandish. Pretty straight forward. Just very conservative. My fraternity brothers and my barber think I look like a nerd.

Good...step 1 is admittance. ;) J/k, sounds good to me. What did you wear today, that'll be a more accurate portrayal. I don't know, after talking to you, I can't imagine you dressing anything like your name. No tight white tshirt and Colgate smile. I see you more plaid/striped button downs and khakis. Maybe an argyle sweater here and there. I definitely didn't see the glasses coming, though. Nothing wrong with eyewear.:D

[PrettyBoy]

Good...step 1 is admittance. ;) J/k, sounds good to me. What did you wear today, that'll be a more accurate portrayal. I don't know, after talking to you, I can't imagine you dressing anything like your name. No tight white tshirt and Colgate smile. I see you more plaid/striped button downs and khakis. Maybe an argyle sweater here and there. I definitely didn't see the glasses coming, though. Nothing wrong with eyewear.:D
:D You've got me to the tee, except for the argyle sweaters. That's from the 80's, and I don't wear those. Nice try though. Must be that psychology degree of yours. My screen name is based on what I was called in college, not how I dress. Yes, I've got glasses. :rolleyes:

[KAPPAtivating]

I always tell people that "dudes like me are out of style", meaning the nice gentleman type! It seems like these days you gotta cuss a woman out, screw her friend, then maybe stalk her to get her to look at you twice:confused:

[PrettyBoy]

I always tell people that "dudes like me are out of style", meaning the nice gentleman type! It seems like these days you gotta cuss a woman out, screw her friend, then maybe stalk her to get her to look at you twice:confused:
I can't agree more Nupe.

[KAPPAtivating]

And all of those things are not me! Please add the "rings on every finger" to the list of 'no-no's' too!

[PrettyBoy]

And all of those things are not me! Please add the "rings on every finger" to the list of 'no-no's' too!
Oh hell no! LMAO! Nupe, I forgot all about the rings on every finger. Major red flag and turn off. :D

[christiangirl]

Oh hell no! LMAO! Nupe, I forgot all about the rings on every finger. Major red flag and turn off. :D

The better to knock a guy out if he tries something on the first date. ;)

I think chivalry is like your favorite childhood candy--Haven't seen it in ages, but you can't help but look for it every time you go out.:cool:

[KAPPAtivating]

The better to knock a guy out if he tries something on the first date. ;)

I think chivalry is like your favorite childhood candy--Haven't seen it in ages, but you can't help but look for it every time you go out.:cool:

Pullin' out your chair and singing *Imma buy you a drank*:D

[PrettyBoy]

Pullin' out your chair and singing *Imma buy you a drank*:D
LMAO.:D

[ziasha07]

You guys are great. Old (kidding) but great. Nice guys aren't out of style cause if you stalk me, I might have to call "Pookey, Re-Re, and dem" to give you the business.

[KAPPAtivating]

You guys are great. Old (kidding) but great. Nice guys aren't out of style cause if you stalk me, I might have to call "Pookey, Re-Re, and dem" to give you the business.

Pookey, Re-Re, and dem are out stalking some other chicks!

[ziasha07]

That's why they wanna protect lil' cousin Z! Cause the know how the game goes. They bank dude for me and then go stalk they ladies. (Lmao, this is so wrong...)

[christiangirl]

This thread reminds me of a shirt my friend was wearing with some jeans. It was cute, but from the cut, you could tell it was really a dress. I asked her and she said, "Yep, it used to be my favorite dress but, now that I've grown, I wear it with jeans because I don't like clothes where all you have to do is bend over and there's the business." :cool:

[christiangirl]

Pullin' out your chair and singing *Imma buy you a drank*:D

*Sittin' down and ordering just a ginger ale...gotta keep my wits about me on the first date* :D

[KAPPAtivating]

*Sittin' down and ordering just a ginger ale...gotta keep my wits about me on the first date* :D

Girl, pack yo bags...I'm takin' you home to mama! Finally a good, wholesome, Christian woman *sigh*:)

[christiangirl]

Girl, pack yo bags...I'm takin' you home to mama! Finally a good, wholesome, Christian woman *sigh*:)

PLEASE DO! It's about time somebody did! I wanna meet somebody's mama! :D:D:D

[cheerfulgreek]

I don't respect women that wear that crap. They think men like it but most men just want to see them with their panites around their ankles. If I brought home a woman that was dressed like anything near that, my parents would be like. :eek:

I like women who respect themselves and dress with class. Those are the ones I bring home too meet the parents.
OMG, you are so full of crap!:rolleyes:

Right now I'm looking at 5 different outfits of mine that I know you wouldn't like, and I've gotten more compliments on them than I've gotten on others I wear that would fit your so called "standards". Personally, just because a woman is wearing something that's not to your "standards" doesn't make her a slut.

Joan Cleaver?:confused: You and your fraternity brother should just go and bring someones 50 year old mother home to meet your parents.

christiangirl, I like those shoes you posted. They're cute.:)

[christiangirl]

Joan Cleaver?

christiangirl, I like those shoes you posted. They're cute.:)

Thanks. :cool:


Is anyone else CTFU at the fact that she just said "Joan?" I think somebody just fused Beaver and Girlfriends. :p

[PrettyBoy]

OMG, you are so full of crap!:rolleyes:

Right now I'm looking at 5 different outfits of mine that I know you wouldn't like, and I've gotten more compliments on them than I've gotten on others I wear that would fit your so called "standards". Personally, just because a woman is wearing something that's not to your "standards" doesn't make her a slut.

Joan Cleaver?:confused: You and your fraternity brother should just go and bring someones 50 year old mother home to meet your parents.

christiangirl, I like those shoes you posted. They're cute.:)
1st of all before I even reply to your post, I'd like to know who Joan Cleaver is? (blank stare):confused:
2nd Please don't tell me you own a pair of shoes like that.

[KAPital PHINUst]

1st of all before I even reply to your post, I'd like to know who Joan Cleaver is? (blank stare):confused:
2nd Please don't tell me you own a pair of shoes like that.

Nupe, I think she means JUNE Cleaver (wiki the name if you still got the :confused:).

[ladygreek]

You and your fraternity brother should just go and bring someones 50 year old mother home to meet your parents.



Excuse me but 50 year old women still dress stylishly, wear stilettos, and know how to be sexy without being hoerish. In fact, they would be too much for these young Nupes to handle. :D

[christiangirl]

Excuse me but 50 year old women still dress stylishly, wear stilettos, and know how to be sexy without being hoerish. In fact, they would be too much for these young Nupes to handle. :D

LG, that's the second time in a week. You are officially my hero(ine). :D

[Sugar08]

Excuse me but 50 year old women still dress stylishly, wear stilettos, and know how to be sexy without being hoerish. In fact, they would be too much for these young Nupes to handle. :D

Get it! I hope to maintain my fabulousness like you, LG.

[OneTimeSBX]

im curious @ some of the guys who like conservative women...

is that an "out in public" type of appearance you want your lady to have? i own heels and have mastered looking classy yet slightly sexy. do you want a woman that is that conservative behind closed doors & after hours?

i understand the public vs. private appearance. the public doesnt need to see all of the "sexy" side of me, its for my man in private...

[pinkies up]

Excuse me but 50 year old women still dress stylishly, wear stilettos, and know how to be sexy without being hoerish. In fact, they would be too much for these young Nupes to handle. :D

CTFU @ Ladygreek!!! Some people don't know that 50 isn't even middle aged yet.

[black_princess]

You guys are great. Old (kidding) but great.

Miss Z,

Why was I thinking the same thing :D (Sorry guys) :p. . . What I find funny is that I fit both sides of the coin on what u guys say u and ur frineds like. . .

For example cons (accrding to the man list on this forum):
1: the small tattoo on the back (left shoulder blade - that can be hidden when need be)
2: the ancle bracelet
3: the short skirts (to show my 5'10 legs) or "club outfits" @ times when I got out to cause mischief on the weekend :cool:
4: the heals (thought I don't like the ones christian girl showed)
5: the gold braceletes / jewelry

But on the other hand

1: I'm a 2nd year master's student
2: I can be demure (sp) at times
3: a little conservative
4: can chef up a good meal
5: well spoken and can turn on the charm when need be
6: Can dress up in my "Joan Cleaver" costume when the mood strikes or duty calls

Overall, like the gentlemen said earlier everyone has their prefrences, and we cant really knock them. I know have looked at a man and judged before he has even spoken to me. But I still stand by my earlier post. If I myself get passed on from men due to some outward appearance, then so be it. @ 22 I should be able to express both sides of myself and not feel labled or bad about doing so :)

[ziasha07]

Miss Z,

Why was I thinking the same thing :D (Sorry guys) :p. . . What I find funny is that I fit both sides of the coin on what u guys say u and ur frineds like. . .

Shoot, if I was as old IRL as I am at heart, I'd holla.

[black_princess]

Shoot, if I was as old IRL as I am at heart, I'd holla.

What does IRL mean? . . i'm confused

[12dn94dst]

IRL = In Real Life

[ziasha07]

IRL = In Real Life


Thank you. BTW, I love your signature.

[ladygreek]

LG, that's the second time in a week. You are officially my hero(ine). :D
I prefer the term shero. ;) And thank you.

[cheerfulgreek]

1st of all before I even reply to your post, I'd like to know who Joan Cleaver is? (blank stare):confused:
2nd Please don't tell me you own a pair of shoes like that.
You know what I meant.:rolleyes:
No, I don't have a pair but I still don't think anything is wrong with them.

[cheerfulgreek]

Excuse me but 50 year old women still dress stylishly, wear stilettos, and know how to be sexy without being hoerish. In fact, they would be too much for these young Nupes to handle. :D
You're 50? :eek:

[PrettyBoy]

im curious @ some of the guys who like conservative women...

is that an "out in public" type of appearance you want your lady to have? i own heels and have mastered looking classy yet slightly sexy. do you want a woman that is that conservative behind closed doors & after hours?

i understand the public vs. private appearance. the public doesnt need to see all of the "sexy" side of me, its for my man in private...
Right. It looks bad in public. That kind of stuff is for private. Plus I want my woman to leave me something to imagine. Why does she have to show everything in public?:confused:

[OOhsoflyDELTA#9]

PB you crack me up....I don't think I could stay awake through a date with you..lol..j/k (not really though ;) )...I've read what you're said in this and other threads and I enjoy bookstores and quiet settings also, BUT variety is indeed the spice of life..I also enjoy jazz clubs and bars...my new dude (your frat BTW) is an attorney so when we go to events that require a more conservative look I oblige...but your list is...just wow...extreme to say the least...now I'm not knocking it cuz its your perference, but wow you seem really pressed about what your parents think too (a slight sidebar)...there isn't a "100% perfect" match IMO....cuz if there were, a cross between Terrence Howard, Method Man, and Bob Johnson would be downstairs making me some coffee right now...lol...I gotta see you...my mental visual of you is FUNNY....your posts do make me laugh and SMH at the same time....

KAPPAtivating...you know what it is Papi....;)

[ladygreek]

You're 50? :eek:
Actually I am 65. You would be surprised at the age range here on GC.

[KAPPAtivating]

PB you crack me up....I don't think I could stay awake through a date with you..lol..j/k (not really though ;) )...I've read what you're said in this and other threads and I enjoy bookstores and quiet settings also, BUT variety is indeed the spice of life..I also enjoy jazz clubs and bars...my new dude (your frat BTW) is an attorney so when we go to events that require a more conservative look I oblige...but your list is...just wow...extreme to say the least...now I'm not knocking it cuz its your perference, but wow you seem really pressed about what your parents think too (a slight sidebar)...there isn't a "100% perfect" match IMO....cuz if there were, a cross between Terrence Howard, Method Man, and Bob Johnson would be downstairs making me some coffee right now...lol...I gotta see you...my mental visual of you is FUNNY....your posts do make me laugh and SMH at the same time....

KAPPAtivating...you know what it is Papi....;)

What's good Mami? Where you been these days? Missed you around these parts;)

[OOhsoflyDELTA#9]

What's good Mami? Where you been these days? Missed you around these parts;)

I've been around papa...I've missed you though...hope all is well....

[KAPPAtivating]

I've been around papa...I've missed you though...hope all is well....

I'm good...even better since you back around the block. Don't stay away so long next time;)

[PrettyBoy]

PB you crack me up....I don't think I could stay awake through a date with you..lol..j/k (not really though ;) )...I've read what you're said in this and other threads and I enjoy bookstores and quiet settings also, BUT variety is indeed the spice of life..I also enjoy jazz clubs and bars...my new dude (your frat BTW) is an attorney so when we go to events that require a more conservative look I oblige...but your list is...just wow...extreme to say the least...now I'm not knocking it cuz its your perference, but wow you seem really pressed about what your parents think too (a slight sidebar)...there isn't a "100% perfect" match IMO....cuz if there were, a cross between Terrence Howard, Method Man, and Bob Johnson would be downstairs making me some coffee right now...lol...I gotta see you...my mental visual of you is FUNNY....your posts do make me laugh and SMH at the same time....

KAPPAtivating...you know what it is Papi....;)
Well, I've got a long list. I just like really down to earth real women. That's all. I'm not into the flashy women. I like wholesome girls that come from good family backgrounds. My list was different before. At one time I wouldn't even tolerate drinking alcohol at all. Now, I don't mind the beer and wine coolers, but that's it. No one is perfect but my parents approval is very important to me.

[KAPPAtivating]

The older I get, the more I realize that I am attracted to women who have personalities that are similar to my mother! The funny thing is that growing up, we knocked heads on a regular basis, and now we still do (whenever we are in each other's company), but she and I are SO similar it is sick.

[PrettyBoy]

As long as I have a non-bar going, non- club going non- party girl who's down to earth. Then I'm good.

[ziasha07]

The older I get, the more I realize that I am attracted to women who have personalities that are similar to my mother! The funny thing is that growing up, we knocked heads on a regular basis, and now we still do (whenever we are in each other's company), but she and I are SO similar it is sick.

It's projection. I spent alot of time with my brother as a the male figure in my life because my father was in the Navy. Now I find myself generally attracted to guys like my brother... Which may not be such a good thing. At least I'm immune to some of their B.S.:rolleyes:

[christiangirl]

The older I get, the more I realize that I am attracted to women who have personalities that are similar to my mother!

Ugh. Everyone says I'm going to marry a man like my father. Excuse my language but HELL TO THE F#@K NO. I can't stand my father 95% of the time and made up my mind years ago to never date a man who was anything like him. I have not so far and fully intend to keep that trend going.

I just like really down to earth real women. That's all. I'm not into the flashy women. I like wholesome girls that come from good family backgrounds.

LOL, I'm glad you realize that "the list" changes. Speaking as a wholesome, down to earth woman who is from a "good family background," I'm not picking on you, I just see it from the other side. I think a man is entitled to any list he wants, but I also think it'd be a shame if someone I was totally compatible with walked away from me because he found out I have a tattoo. The fact that I have one is minor compared to the fact that it's tasteful and discrete. Or if a man dumped me because I had something stronger than a wine cooler. I think the fact that I can drink while still maintaining myself as a lady in public is more important than what's in the cup. I just hope that, when you meet someone you truly like, you don't let go of that good woman over something much smaller than the big picture. If you can do that, while still maintaing "the list," then have at it. ;)

[PrettyBoy]

Ugh. Everyone says I'm going to marry a man like my father. Excuse my language but HELL TO THE F#@K NO. I can't stand my father 95% of the time and made up my mind years ago to never date a man who was anything like him. I have not so far and fully intend to keep that trend going.



LOL, I'm glad you realize that "the list" changes. Speaking as a wholesome, down to earth woman who is from a "good family background," I'm not picking on you, I just see it from the other side. I think a man is entitled to any list he wants, but I also think it'd be a shame if someone I was totally compatible with walked away from me because he found out I have a tattoo. The fact that I have one is minor compared to the fact that it's tasteful and discrete. Or if a man dumped me because I had something stronger than a wine cooler. I think the fact that I can drink while still maintaining myself as a lady in public is more important than what's in the cup. I just hope that, when you meet someone you truly like, you don't let go of that good woman over something much smaller than the big picture. If you can do that, while still maintaing "the list," then have at it. ;)
CG, you make a great point, but at the same time there's just some things that I can't deal with no matter how nice the woman is. Hard liquor and tattoos are just two of the things that don't fit what I like. Of course she's not perfect, but neither am I, but some things I would just rather do without.

[KAPPAtivating]

LOL, I'm glad you realize that "the list" changes. Speaking as a wholesome, down to earth woman who is from a "good family background," I'm not picking on you, I just see it from the other side. I think a man is entitled to any list he wants, but I also think it'd be a shame if someone I was totally compatible with walked away from me because he found out I have a tattoo. The fact that I have one is minor compared to the fact that it's tasteful and discrete. Or if a man dumped me because I had something stronger than a wine cooler. I think the fact that I can drink while still maintaining myself as a lady in public is more important than what's in the cup. I just hope that, when you meet someone you truly like, you don't let go of that good woman over something much smaller than the big picture. If you can do that, while still maintaing "the list," then have at it. ;)

Christiangirl, you been tippin' the bottle tonight? That was some strong language coming from you...lol! I have been told by my closest friends and family that I am too picky with women. Maybe I am, but I think I deserve to be picky. Hell, Imma good catch!

[KAPPAtivating]

CG, you make a great point, but at the same time there's just some things that I can't deal with no matter how nice the woman is. Hard liquor and tattoos are just two of the things that don't fit what I like. Of course she's not perfect, but neither am I, but some things I would just rather do without.

I am similar, there are some negotiable things, but then are things that are non-negotiable...i.e. smoking, loud women, gold teeth, etc.

[PrettyBoy]

Christiangirl, you been tippin' the bottle tonight? That was some strong language coming from you...lol! I have been told by my closest friends and family that I am too picky with women. Maybe I am, but I think I deserve to be picky. Hell, Imma good catch!
Nupe, I'm very picky too. I would rather be alone, than to be with someone who I'm not physically, mentally, or spiritually attracted to. I treat women with respect and I just want the same in return.

[KAPPAtivating]

Nupe, I'm very picky too. I would rather be alone, than to be with someone who I'm not physically, mentally, or spiritually attracted to. I treat women with respect and I just want the same in return.

I am with you on that, I have every right to be FULLY happy. If a woman does not satisfy me mentally, and spiritually, then as fine as she may be...she's gonna have to go. And if I can't give the same to a woman, then I can understand why I would have to go too!

[cheerfulgreek]

Actually I am 65. You would be surprised at the age range here on GC.
OMG! I had no idea. I think that's totally awesome!:p You seem so young with so much energy. Not that your posts sound immature or anything, you just seem to be really, really fun.:)

[cheerfulgreek]

Girl, pack yo bags...I'm takin' you home to mama! Finally a good, wholesome, Christian woman *sigh*:)
Maybe you and christiangirl should PM and chit chat with each other more often.:)

[OOhsoflyDELTA#9]

Maybe you and christiangirl should PM and chit chat with each other more often.:)

know your role and stay in ya lane CG, KAPPAtivating and I got this...:mad:
go find PB and play and stay outta of grown folks business...:mad:;)

ETA: Christiangirl you good with me....its just that KAPPA.. and I have history..:p)

[PrettyBoy]

Hey Nupes, I'm so excited. I never really posted much about this but I have to tell you guys this. Last month I had a presentation at school, and a lot of employers came out to look at everyones work. Ford didn't pay much attention to my renderings that I worked so hard on:(, instead they liked my ideation sketches. Well, to make a long story short, I talked to them and asked a lot of questions, which resulted in an interview which I had this morning. I have a 2nd interview Tuesday of next week. They seemed to like my portfolio, so I hope all goes well next Tuesday. The bad thing is Ford is hurtin' and have already laid off a lot of designers, but I don't have anything to lose. I'll keep you guys posted. Well, I guess it's time to head to "club" Borders Bookstore.:)


Yo!:D

[KAPPAtivating]

Hey Nupes, I'm so excited. I never really posted much about this but I have to tell you guys this. Last month I had a presentation at school, and a lot of employers came out to look at everyones work. Ford didn't pay much attention to my renderings that I worked so hard on:(, instead they liked my ideation sketches. Well, to make a long story short, I talked to them and asked a lot of questions, which resulted in an interview which I had this morning. I have a 2nd interview Tuesday of next week. They seemed to like my portfolio, so I hope all goes well next Tuesday. The bad thing is Ford is hurtin' and have already laid off a lot of designers, but I don't have anything to lose. I'll keep you guys posted. Well, I guess it's time to head to "club" Borders Bookstore.:)


Yo!:D

Congrats Nupe! ACHIEVEMENT in every field of human endeavor!

[PrettyBoy]

Congrats Nupe! ACHIEVEMENT in every field of human endeavor!
Thanks Nupe, but I haven't gotten the job yet.:D

[KAPPAtivating]

Thanks Nupe, but I haven't gotten the job yet.:D

It's not about whether you get it or not, it's about the fact that you took a potentially negative situation, and worked an angle to make it positive for you!

[PrettyBoy]

It's not about whether you get it or not, it's about the fact that you took a potentially negative situation, and worked an angle to make it positive for you!
That's true. If I get it, this will be one of the happiest days of my life.:D

[christiangirl]

Christiangirl, you been tippin' the bottle tonight? That was some strong language coming from you...lol! I have been told by my closest friends and family that I am too picky with women. Maybe I am, but I think I deserve to be picky. Hell, Imma good catch!

HAHAHA!!! Naw man, but I feel what you're sayin'....we can afford to be picky. I said I'd never be with someone who smokes either, but I had a thought: What if you find someone right for you, be with them for x amount of years, then they start smoking? You just walk away after that long? There are some things about people that might change, so I'm trying to sift through which battles I'ma fight.

know your role and stay in ya lane CG, KAPPAtivating and I got this...:mad:
go find PB and play and stay outta of grown folks business...:mad:;)

ETA: Christiangirl you good with me....its just that KAPPA.. and I have history..:p)

CTFU!!! I don't know, I never liked "I'ma buy you a drink" before, but now I can't stop humming it...I might be catching a cyber case, I'll try to stay out yo' lane girl, but he is kinda stroking my ego a little...:p

[KAPPAtivating]

You know I luuuvvv both you ladies! It's enough of me to go around...lol!:D:cool:

[IncontRHOllable]

Then my daughter is safe. LOL

my sister too, LOL!

[IncontRHOllable]

No I'm not the last of a dying breed. There's a lot of nice men out there, the problem is a lot of women just don't want them. They want that low down trifling joker who's screwed several women and have other women on the side,while in a relationship.

Yes I have always been a one woman man since puberty. I've never even had the desire to want to be with more than one woman, and I know I never will. Fast dressing women are a big turn off for me. Women like that can't even get me aroused. Why do people have to sleep with everyone they meet? What are they trying to prove?

Correction, yes you are the last of a dying breed. Hmmmm, let's see. I don't believe in dating a lot of people. I believe that if you just wait, God will bring the person that you are suppose to marry to you (I know that opinion is not popular). From my experience, I have only had 3 boyfriends in my life, one of whom I was engaged to. They have left me because of the no sex/ no intimacy rule. When I say no intimacy, I mean just that. Holding hands and a kiss on the cheek is fine but that's it. My fiance left me too because although I broke my rule for him, he could not deal with the no intimacy rule ( I felt such guilt at breaking the rule that I recommitted myself to that rule and he did not want that, he felt that since we broke it we might as well keep breaking it. I disagreed the rest is history). So you see, there are women who want to live Godly lives, are living a wholesome and respectable lifetyle, but its the men who can't seem to control their hormones enough to wait on that kind of girl. It's the men that want the freak of the week or the down low boy toy. The thing that really angers me, is the men who passed me up because they heard about my rule and then latter on in life after they have had their share of women, want to come back to try to be with me so they can settle down. HECK NO!! Don't try to come back my way. What's even worse is those fools that tell me "you a nice girl, pretty and all that but its unrealistic to think some man is going to stay faithful to you when you not trying to show a brotha a little intimacy. I can wait a while, but you talking intimacy for marriage and that could be 3 years and a man ain't gonna wait that long and be faithful to you at the same time". Its sad but I am finding this to be true. The man that will do this is RARE!! He may still be on the potter's wheel. Now tell me again that wholesome men are out there and I'll tell you yes they are like the last of the Mohicans.

[christiangirl]

I believe that if you just wait, God will bring the person that you are suppose to marry to you (I know that opinion is not popular).

I believe that, too but....now, I don't doubt my man's sense of direction, but would it be too much interference if I drew him a map? Just in case? :p

What's even worse is those fools that tell me "you a nice girl, pretty and all that but its unrealistic to think some man is going to stay faithful to you when you not trying to show a brotha a little intimacy. I can wait a while, but you talking intimacy for marriage and that could be 3 years and a man ain't gonna wait that long and be faithful to you at the same time".

WE ARE --->HERE<---. If I had a dime for every time I heard that from a man (and women for that matter), I'd be able to pay back my student loans. :mad:

[KAPPAtivating]

^^^Ladies I am so apologetic on behalf of the good men out here in the world. I am a firm believer that anything (and I mean anything) worth having is worth waiting for! I tell my young Kappa League boys all the time that 1)Quality before Quanity and 2)I believe God arranged our bodies in order of importance. In other words, your brain and your heart come before your loins!

[PrettyBoy]

Correction, yes you are the last of a dying breed. Hmmmm, let's see. I don't believe in dating a lot of people. I believe that if you just wait, God will bring the person that you are suppose to marry to you (I know that opinion is not popular). From my experience, I have only had 3 boyfriends in my life, one of whom I was engaged to. They have left me because of the no sex/ no intimacy rule. When I say no intimacy, I mean just that. Holding hands and a kiss on the cheek is fine but that's it. My fiance left me too because although I broke my rule for him, he could not deal with the no intimacy rule ( I felt such guilt at breaking the rule that I recommitted myself to that rule and he did not want that, he felt that since we broke it we might as well keep breaking it. I disagreed the rest is history). So you see, there are women who want to live Godly lives, are living a wholesome and respectable lifetyle, but its the men who can't seem to control their hormones enough to wait on that kind of girl. It's the men that want the freak of the week or the down low boy toy. The thing that really angers me, is the men who passed me up because they heard about my rule and then latter on in life after they have had their share of women, want to come back to try to be with me so they can settle down. HECK NO!! Don't try to come back my way. What's even worse is those fools that tell me "you a nice girl, pretty and all that but its unrealistic to think some man is going to stay faithful to you when you not trying to show a brotha a little intimacy. I can wait a while, but you talking intimacy for marriage and that could be 3 years and a man ain't gonna wait that long and be faithful to you at the same time". Its sad but I am finding this to be true. The man that will do this is RARE!! He may still be on the potter's wheel. Now tell me again that wholesome men are out there and I'll tell you yes they are like the last of the Mohicans.
I think that's great that you're a good woman. Stay that way. Like I said before hold on to the panties and see how long a joker hangs around. If he leaves, then he's a sorry low down joker. I like it when women hold back the panties. To me it means she's not just about sex. Also, I've never been the aggressor. The women I've gone out with in the past have always made the 1st move, so for me sex is great but not a priority.

When most women get a good guy, their insecurities come out and they mess up everytime. At least they did with me. A lot of times that comes from dating bad boys, and other reasons too. Most women simply think most men, if not all are dogs, and that's far from the truth. Like I said, sex is great, but it's not the end all be all. Me personally, I love having sex, but only with one woman. If she chooses not to have sex, then that's cool too. As long as she's a good woman, I'm her's for life with or without the sex. Now if I'm married to her, yeah, if she still doesn't want to have sex, then something's wrong with her.:rolleyes: As long as she doesn't give me a reason to leave, which would be a form of cheating, then I wouldn't leave. To me cheating doesn't only mean sleeping with another guy.;)

Faithful? Yes, I've always been this way. In my past relationships, I just chose the wrong women. They were out there, and I was and still am the opposite. They would lie to me by trying to lower the number of men they slept with so I would be with them, and like an idiot I would. Not anymore. I know if she's lying now. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. I've always known women to like bad boys. I've always said that if I ever met a beautiful woman who didn't fool around with bad boys, came from a good family, was educated, God fearing, honest, faithful, and loved me for me and only me, that would be my woman. I used to always go last behind bad boys, but now there's no way in hell. I've never ever cheated and I never will, and there are a lot of men out there like that, you just have to kind of run into them by accident I guess.:p

[IncontRHOllable]

I believe that, too but....now, I don't doubt my man's sense of direction, but would it be too much interference if I drew him a map? Just in case? :p



WE ARE --->HERE<---. If I had a dime for every time I heard that from a man (and women for that matter), I'd be able to pay back my student loans. :mad:

Christiangirl, you and I both would be debt free :rolleyes: Honestly, I am not expecting a man to be perfect because I am not, although I am striving everyday for Godly perfection. However, I do expect him to be faithful and to respect my beliefs and values. What is really getting me is this expectation that after they go out and sew their oats all over the world, that we (good women) are supposed to be there waiting on them to ask us to marry them and live happily ever after. AS IF!! I mean I know there is a shortage of available black men but we are not that desperate because a sista like me will marry a white, Asian, Hispanic, etc.,

[cheerfulgreek]

PB, did you like your brownies?:)

[christiangirl]

^^^WTF??? :confused: Don't be offended by this, but you make as much sense as a car parked on top of a building. It's amusing, entertaining even, but a little creepy at the same time.

I I've never ever cheated and I never will, and there are a lot of men out there like that, you just have to kind of run into them by accident I guess.:p

*closing my eyes and walking around hoping to run into somebody* :p Didn't you say at one point that you're gonna want to "get busy" with a girl before the wedding and that, while you want a reasonable amount of time, you weren't waiting that long? :confused: Just trying to get my stories straight before I lie on you. ;)

Christiangirl, you and I both would be debt free :rolleyes: Honestly, I am not expecting a man to be perfect because I am not, although I am striving everyday for Godly perfection. However, I do expect him to be faithful and to respect my beliefs and values. What is really getting me is this expectation that after they go out and sew their oats all over the world, that we (good women) are supposed to be there waiting on them to ask us to marry them and live happily ever after. AS IF!! I mean I know there is a shortage of available black men but we are not that desperate because a sista like me will marry a white, Asian, Hispanic, etc.,

I just found this book called Ending the Search for Mr. Right: How to be Found by the Man You've Been Looking For. Shoot find me, son, FIND ME. :D Lol, I'm not rushing marriage, I'm not even old enough to rent a car, but it'd be nice to have somebody who wasn't tryin' to play like my chest was staring at his eyes. :rolleyes:

[KAPital PHINUst]

I think that's great that you're a good woman. Stay that way. Like I said before hold on to the panties and see how long a joker hangs around. If he leaves, then he's a sorry low down joker. I like it when women hold back the panties. To me it means she's not just about sex. Also, I've never been the aggressor. The women I've gone out with in the past have always made the 1st move, so for me sex is great but not a priority.

When most women get a good guy, their insecurities come out and they mess up everytime. At least they did with me. A lot of times that comes from dating bad boys, and other reasons too. Most women simply think most men, if not all are dogs, and that's far from the truth. Like I said, sex is great, but it's not the end all be all. Me personally, I love having sex, but only with one woman. If she chooses not to have sex, then that's cool too. As long as she's a good woman, I'm her's for life with or without the sex. Now if I'm married to her, yeah, if she still doesn't want to have sex, then something's wrong with her.:rolleyes: As long as she doesn't give me a reason to leave, which would be a form of cheating, then I wouldn't leave. To me cheating doesn't only mean sleeping with another guy.;)

Faithful? Yes, I've always been this way. In my past relationships, I just chose the wrong women. They were out there, and I was and still am the opposite. They would lie to me by trying to lower the number of men they slept with so I would be with them, and like an idiot I would. Not anymore. I know if she's lying now. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. I've always known women to like bad boys. I've always said that if I ever met a beautiful woman who didn't fool around with bad boys, came from a good family, was educated, God fearing, honest, faithful, and loved me for me and only me, that would be my woman. I used to always go last behind bad boys, but now there's no way in hell. I've never ever cheated and I never will, and there are a lot of men out there like that, you just have to kind of run into them by accident I guess.:p

Nupe, your post made me proud. Stand by your principles, keep your eyes on the prize, charge those women who are $2 stank hoes to the game, and always keep it mackin'.

Phi V

[KAPPAtivating]

What is really getting me is this expectation that after they go out and sew their oats all over the world, that we (good women) are supposed to be there waiting on them to ask us to marry them and live happily ever after. AS IF!! I mean I know there is a shortage of available black men but we are not that desperate because a sista like me will marry a white, Asian, Hispanic, etc.,

So what about the women who helped these dudes sew their oats, and they have six kids by six daddies? Are we supposed to be around waiting for them too? It goes two ways!

[PrettyBoy]

(Inconrhollable) I wish I had a penny everytime I heard a black woman say there are a shortage of good black men out there. I would have more money than Bill Gates.:rolleyes: That's a cop out now. Back in the day I literally believed that crap, but I don't anymore. It's cool though, because at the same time I can easily say there's a shortage of good black women too. One thing I do agree with you about though, is the fact that you will try any race. Don't just wait for a good black man, because I stopped waiting for a good black woman 4 years ago. To me a woman is a woman, color doesn't matter anymore. If the girl is fine, and treats me how I treat her, then I'm all for it. Good luck.

(cheerfulgreek) LMAO. Yup, they were really good.:) Your cooking skills may be suspect,:rolleyes: but you can bake the hell out of some brownies.:D

(christiangirl) I encourage waiting until marriage to have sex, but I'm a man with sexual desires so things do happen. As far as how long I wait, that depends on the woman and that's private.;)

(Kapital phinust) Thanks Nupe.
Phi Nupie :D

[PrettyBoy]

So what about the women who helped these dudes sew their oats, and they have six kids by six daddies? Are we supposed to be around waiting for them too? It goes two ways!
Ditto, Ditto, and Ditto 10 times fold. I couldn't have said it better myself Nupe.

[Sugar08]

So what about the women who helped these dudes sew their oats, and they have six kids by six daddies? Are we supposed to be around waiting for them too? It goes two ways!

Question for all:

Does it matter to you how many men a woman has slept with (she has no children); is there an upper limit?

Follow-up question:

What about if she's not happy with the number of women you have slept with?

Ladies, if you'd like to answer, please reverse the pronouns. :D

[OneTimeSBX]

oh wooow!

i am not particularly concerned with the #. you can sleep with one person and catch something/knock her up, or 25 and nothing happens. as long as that # STOPS where i begin? im good with whatever. just dont lie if it comes up.

[IncontRHOllable]

So what about the women who helped these dudes sew their oats, and they have six kids by six daddies? Are we supposed to be around waiting for them too? It goes two ways!

And you are exactly right. No argument for me on that. :rolleyes:

[357Nupe]

What she did in the past is her business, I don't care to know. :confused:

On the other hand I would hope if it were a large or small number of men that she would have learned somethings that make my experience with her better. ;)

It is truly none of her business how many I have been with:cool:, just like it is none of my business how many she has been with. Just make sure while I am the one I am the only one.

[IncontRHOllable]

Question for all:

Does it matter to you how many men a woman has slept with (she has no children); is there an upper limit?

Follow-up question:

What about if she's not happy with the number of women you have slept with?

Ladies, if you'd like to answer, please reverse the pronouns. :D

I feel that a man should be held to the same standard that they place on women. Men always preach about how they don't want a woman who has been around the block a lot. Well, the same standard should apply to them. Unfortunately, I find that most men feel that its ok for THEM to be around the block but NOT OK for the women to be around the block. Double standard, yes and its wrong. I think women should start holding men to same standard that they hold us to. Why should we have to accept that they've been around the block and its cool. On the other hand, coming from a christian standpoint of view, its wrong to judge someone based on their past. What should matter is what they are doing after they have chosen to be in a relationship with you.

[Sugar08]

I feel that a man should be held to the same standard that they place on women. Men always preach about how they don't want a woman who has been around the block a lot. Well, the same standard should apply to them. Unfortunately, I find that most men feel that its ok for THEM to be around the block but NOT OK for the women to be around the block. Double standard, yes and its wrong. I think women should start holding men to same standard that they hold us to. Why should we have to accept that they've been around the block and its cool. On the other hand, coming from a christian standpoint of view, its wrong to judge someone based on their past. What should matter is what they are doing after they have chosen to be in a relationship with you.

This is what I was getting at. I've come across many men who hold their significant other to the double-standard and I was trying to find out what GCers had to say.

[Infamous12]

I agree with 357 Nupe. Your past is your past and mine is mine. As long as that number doesn't increase while you're with me, we're straight. :cool:

But trust and believe, if your past is still present (i.e. - notorious reputation of being a slore, lol) then I will NOT be in your future. Sorry for ya!

[christiangirl]

So what about the women who helped these dudes sew their oats, and they have six kids by six daddies? Are we supposed to be around waiting for them too? It goes two ways!

It's funny you say that, because there's a woman at my church who has a son a little younger than I am. She told us once that his father has six different kids by six different women. I'm not sure what number she was. :rolleyes:

Question for all:

Does it matter to you how many men a woman has slept with (she has no children); is there an upper limit?

I don't have a limit, just whatever I'm comfortable with. Yes, I feel that it's my business, even outside of the baby mama drama and the "I might catch something" fear. Ex partners are BAGGAGE even without sex in the mix. I'm sorry, but I like to travel light. I have enough baggage of my own without adding your carry-ons. If I feel like you're carrying a load that I'm not strong enough to deal with, then I'll let you go find someone else who is so we can both be happy.

Now, the number isn't always important. I recently stopped dating a guy because his baggage off his ONE past relationship was too much--years of having sex with her had put them on this emotional level that he tried to recreate with me, right off the bat. He always respected me and never even asked for sex, but I swear, everytime he looked at me, his eyes were calling me her name. I'll fight for my man, but I can't compete with someone who's not there anymore. So, if I have to take man with 3 rolley-bags over man with 1 footlocker, then sobeit. :cool:

[PrettyBoy]

I do think it's a double standard for a man to say he wants a virgin or a woman who hasn't been around the block when he's been a hoe himself. Me personally, if a woman has slept with more than 3 she has no chance with me. I haven't been around the block, and I've never been a hoe, therefore I don't want a hoe or a woman that's been around the block. Fortunately, I CAN actually say I want a woman that's been with 2 or less without being a hypocrite. I've had several chances to be a player/hoe, but I turned it down everytime. It's not, nor has it ever been my thing. If a woman has kids, that's great for the men that are cool with it, but for me I don't have any kids so I don't want a woman with kids. Other than my student loan that I have to pay back:(, I have no baggage therefore I don't want to carry someone elses bags. In my past, I've always ended up dating women who have been out there, and I just got tired of it. Why should I have to be way down the line after all these other trifling jokers?

Since it was so hard for me to find a decent woman, I had given up and became celebate for 4 years. I wanted to wait for my ideal girl, someone who hasn't or doesn't hoe around. Someone who has been with the same or less men than I've been with women. I think it's only fair. Some people don't care, but I do.

When a woman ask me how many i