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kddani
05-18-2004, 06:51 AM
With all the blackface debate, I wanted to start a thread about this.
I don't know what the movie is called, but last night I saw a commercial for a movie coming out with two black guys who dress up as white girls, complete with whiteface.
Yes, whiteface doesn't have the historical context.
But when fair is fair, how is this right?
1savvydiva
05-18-2004, 07:01 AM
Originally posted by kddani
With all the blackface debate, I wanted to start a thread about this.
I don't know what the movie is called, but last night I saw a commercial for a movie coming out with two black guys who dress up as white girls, complete with whiteface.
Yes, whiteface doesn't have the historical context.
But when fair is fair, how is this right?
...so, this might be a BIT of a stretch.:o
ZZ-kai-
05-18-2004, 08:56 AM
Turn-about is fair play, right? Well, I doubt that Ben Aflack and Matt Damon could dress up in blackface and shoot a movie. God forbid, they do it, they'd be racist??!!
smiley21
05-18-2004, 09:12 AM
The movie is "White Chicks"- i think that is what it is called. It stars the Wayans Brothers.
Turn about is fair play. Maybe they are trying to put the shoe on the other foot. Whatever the reason, I dont support it.
SiKeS
05-18-2004, 10:14 AM
OMG I'm enraged. Petitioning and protests begin tomorrow.
LeslieAGD
05-18-2004, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by smiley21
The movie is "White Chicks"- i think that is what it is called. It stars the Wayans Brothers.
http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hp&cf=prev&id=1808512469
After messing up a major drug bust in New York City, two African American FBI agents, Marcus and Kevin Copeland (Shawn and Marlon Wayans), try to impress their boss by volunteering to protect the Wilton Sisters, Tiffany and Brittany, the heiresses of a hotel empire, from a kidnapping scheme. Deciding to change the strategy drastically, the brothers use themselves as bait, wearing lots of pale makeup and dresses to pass as the Wilton sisters, while the real sisters are hidden away, safe from harm.
smiley21
05-18-2004, 11:39 AM
so obviously based on the Hilton sisters:rolleyes:
Rudey
05-18-2004, 11:44 AM
Originally posted by kddani
With all the blackface debate, I wanted to start a thread about this.
I don't know what the movie is called, but last night I saw a commercial for a movie coming out with two black guys who dress up as white girls, complete with whiteface.
Yes, whiteface doesn't have the historical context.
But when fair is fair, how is this right?
Who financed this movie? Were they white by any chance?
-Rudey
CarolinaCutie
05-18-2004, 12:17 PM
While I don't think this movie is offensive, it is tasteless. What's the POINT?
laidbackfella
05-18-2004, 12:34 PM
I was thinking the same thing myself the other day. I guess it does depend on the context of the movie.
Turn about is very fair play.
I can't remember an outrage over Soul Man. http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0091991/
I don't think it will be very funny. If I were white I'm not sure how I'd feel. It just seems like a corny ass plot to me.
Whoever financed this film seems bit out of touch with current affairs in the college world at least.
SouthrnBelle
05-18-2004, 12:34 PM
Has anybody seen trailers? I seriously DOUBT the Wayans Brothers will have WHITEFACE. I think they will be wearing "pale makeup" and you'll also still be able to tell they are African American. Anywhoo, the movie sounds dumb as hell anyway.
KillarneyRose
05-18-2004, 12:41 PM
Really, no good can come from anyone in whiteface...
http://www.alloccasionperformers.com/images/i-mime.jpg
http://perso.club-internet.fr/frpochon/pgn/clown1.jpg
KSig RC
05-18-2004, 12:49 PM
Originally posted by kddani
With all the blackface debate, I wanted to start a thread about this.
I don't know what the movie is called, but last night I saw a commercial for a movie coming out with two black guys who dress up as white girls, complete with whiteface.
Yes, whiteface doesn't have the historical context.
But when fair is fair, how is this right?
A.) you should have stopped at the "historical context" line - counselor, you've cracked the case right there
B.) if you've seen a trailor for the movie . . . it's not "whiteface" a la "blackface", it's wearing a full frigging headmask that makes them appear, to all eyes, white. If you don't see how this is different from blackface, then we'll have a little Al Jolson speech delivered on what blackface actually was.
smiley21
05-18-2004, 12:54 PM
Originally posted by SouthrnBelle
Has anybody seen trailers? I seriously DOUBT the Wayans Brothers will have WHITEFACE. I think they will be wearing "pale makeup" and you'll also still be able to tell they are African American. Anywhoo, the movie sounds dumb as hell anyway.
i have seen the previews many times. they have very whitish pale makeup on. it is obvious that they are black guys. however, if you look at them really hard and forget who they really are, they could pass for white girls....not
sugar and spice
05-18-2004, 12:54 PM
Originally posted by CarolinaCutie
While I don't think this movie is offensive, it is tasteless. What's the POINT?
I agree with this.
Also, when you ignore historical context, you miss the entire argument. As I have stated over and over in the "white Chingy" thread. ;) Historical context is a HUGE part of any racial debate.
But, to take the topic and run with it, blacks are not the only ones subjected to "blackface" in the history of American film. In fact, some other races were subjected to it long after blackface fell out of favor -- Mr. Yunioshi in Breakfast at Tiffany's? It's still quite popular to have Italians play Hispanics or vice versa in films, sometimes for the point of parody. Where should the line be drawn?
sugar and spice
05-18-2004, 05:08 PM
What about blue frosting?
AKA_Monet
05-20-2004, 07:16 PM
This movie will make a quick trip to the bootlegged DVD... If that...
OR
It will wind up on the Blaxexploitation movies lists during Black History Month on a Saturday mid day on UPN network with Mystery Science Theater 3000 and comments will get made by the little robots... I'd love to see their take on this chit...
OR
My question is was it worth it for the Wayans brothers to do some crazy assed chit like dat? What do the older brothers havta say...
James
05-20-2004, 08:39 PM
Trailer:
http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/white_chicks/
Looks funny as hell. No one is going to care except a white Starang21 ;)
PM_Mama00
05-20-2004, 09:41 PM
Originally posted by sugar and spice
It's still quite popular to have Italians play Hispanics or vice versa in films, sometimes for the point of parody. Where should the line be drawn?
Wait.... what's so wrong about Italians playing Hispanics? Jennifer Lopez played an Italian in The Wedding Planner. I don't get it.
starang21
05-20-2004, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by James
Trailer:
http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/white_chicks/
Looks funny as hell. No one is going to care except a white Starang21 ;)
lol, a white me? oh wow.....just imagine a white guy who was as "arrogant" as people seem to think i am.
steelepike
05-21-2004, 01:17 AM
this is a very unique idea, WHITEFACE
i laugh out load
DELTABRAT
05-21-2004, 01:19 AM
Originally posted by CarolinaCutie
While I don't think this movie is offensive, it is tasteless. What's the POINT?
You can't be serious. While I think this may cause controversy...many, if not all, of the Wayans Brother's movies are pretty much pointless and are made to be parodies. The whole "what's the point" inquiry just seems out of place. We are talking Wayans, here...
Phasad1913
05-21-2004, 01:42 AM
I'm sorry, but I don't even like the name of this movie. White Chicks? wth? This is rediculous. With all the money these guys have, they could have/should have done something better than this.
thermobryan
05-21-2004, 02:25 AM
Originally posted by KillarneyRose
Really, no good can come from anyone in whiteface...
http://www.alloccasionperformers.com/images/i-mime.jpg
http://perso.club-internet.fr/frpochon/pgn/clown1.jpg
Oh man, those were some funny pics...And personally, this movie offends me as a white male....JK!!!
I'm calling the NAAWP...
p.s. I'm joking, dont put like 4098509485 posts about how racist I am....
p.s.s. NAAWP...figure it out...
steelepike
05-21-2004, 02:57 AM
Originally posted by thermobryan
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p.s.s. NAAWP...figure it out... [/B]
oh i get it and where do i join
starang21
05-21-2004, 08:58 AM
this is quite ridiculous, though.
twostep
07-01-2004, 01:09 PM
LOOK!:
http://forums.greekchat.com/gcforums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=51108
Kevin
07-01-2004, 01:35 PM
There will always be folks that whine about this perceived inequity here. To be able to do so though, they will have to ignore all the history behind blackface and what makes that a no-no. I personally don't think there will be any noticable furor over this film.
Maybe David Duke won't like it.
moe.ron
07-01-2004, 02:00 PM
Originally posted by AKA_Monet
It will wind up on the Blaxexploitation movies lists during Black History Month on a Saturday mid day on UPN network with Mystery Science Theater 3000 and comments will get made by the little robots... I'd love to see their take on this chit...
I would love to see Mystery Science Theater 3000's take on the movie. It'll be hilarious.
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