RedFox's rush thread

[RedFox]

Hey everyone! Thought I'd start this thing since recruitment is a little over a month away! As for some background info...here's some links to threads that I have posted regarding me and rushing....

http://forums.greekchat.com/gcforums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=34262 <---which is talking about why I want to join a sorority

http://forums.greekchat.com/gcforums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24546&perpage=15&pagenumber=6 <----my situation in general...an overview of me! :D



I just turned in all my recruitment forms, etc. this past Thursday..and since I'm on campus, I turned it in personally to the secretary at the Panahellenic Building (who was really nice by the way, we had a little talk about pictures and stuff, even being inside the building itself put a smile on my face) and got it in during the "early registration", etc. Now, all I can do is concentrate on my second summer session class, getting my books for the fall, and awaiting rush! Perhaps going shopping for some new cute stuff, but I basically have everything I need, so the waiting process, although only a month or so, will be killer. Good luck to the other PNMs!!

[pinkyphimu]

hurray! we love rush threads! good luck pam!

[justamom]

Wishing you the best and looking forward to your story!

[texas*princess]

I'm definately wishing you the best!!! I hope you find a greek home of your dreams :)

[DZHBrown]

Yay! Best of luck!! UTK is such a great place. Enjoy it and enjoy recruitment!! I can't wait to hear all about it...

[mmcat]

have a ball...keep a song in your heart and a smile on your soul.
and keep us posted.
:D

[Silverblue]

This UTK alumna wishes you the very best of luck. It's an exhausting, emotional week, but so worth it.

[aephi alum]

Best of luck! :)

[MTSUGURL]

Good luck Pam!!! Have a blast. My fingers will be crossed for you!

[ajuhdg]

YIPPEE SKIPPEEE!!! Can't wait...August is too far away for all the fun to begin! Is someone keeping track of all the new PNM's?

aj

[bsp-mich24]

Good luck Pam...keep your options open...keep us updated. :)

I'm in a non academic service Glo "BSP" but I'm still a tad bit nervous about AI and new to advising team for the NPC GLO.

I'll keep my fingers crossed for both of us!:D

[amandamarie]

bspmich, my aunt is a Beta Sigma Phi in Dallas! Good Luck with the advising!

[Not a Mezzo]

How wonderful! Deciding to go through rush was one of the best decisions I've ever made. Try checking out the national websites of the GLO's on your campus; they'll give you lots of information on the group in general, as well as links to collegiate chapters' websites. If it's available, look at the sites of the chapters at your school, as well as any Greek Life pages your university has. That helped take the edge off of waiting for rush for me! Good luck with rush, even though you guys sound like you don't need it. :D

[AZpinkkittie]

So nice too hear from you Pam!! I've missed you. I can't wait to hear more about your rush (especially while I go through mine) so keep it coming!!

[RedFox]

Thanks AZ! I can't wait to swap stories...its getting closed to R-Day!!! (recruitment day) haha Go PNMs!

[AXOKatie]

Good luck PNMs!!!!!! you are all in my thoughts :D

[absolutuscchick]

Yay for all of us "older" (ok we're still young but still..) rushees!!!!

Good luck!! :)

[RedFox]

Thanks guys! I'm really excited! here's another question though....how short is too short and how low/revealing is too revealing? Also...are flip flops okay? We don't have houses here at UT, its a big building with suites that we go to and I hear that the building is boiling! Any tips on what to wear would be great thanks!

[Silverblue]

If you think it might be too short or too revealing, it probably is. Don't take the chance. Flip-flops would be fine for orientation, but not after that. And please, no prom dresses at pref. The year I went through, several girls wore the same dress that had been very popular that prom season. They stood out, but not in a good way. Dress to show the actives you respect them and the process.

[DZHBrown]

I agree with Silverblue - if it's questionable, then I'd pass. The way I see it is that you shouldn't look like your clubbing or trying to pick up men ;) I know that the Panhellenic Building can be warm, but you can dress nicely and appropriately without revealing too much and not getting too hot!! :)

[Silverblue]

And remember, this is a very conservative area in the Bible belt. Some of the chapters at UT have regular Bible studies. If you think something is too short or low-cut to wear to church, don't wear it to rush!

[smiley21]

have fun and a successful rush!

[mmcat]

there's always the "what would your mother think" test.
get ready to have a ball.

[ZetaLuvBunny]

Originally posted by RedFox
how short is too short and how low/revealing is too revealing? Also...are flip flops okay?

Hi Pam,
I'm a fellow Tennessean (MTSU). What my sisters and I always say in regards to dressing up (i.e. for meetings, etc.) is "If you wouldn't wear it to church, it's probably not appropriate." Not to say that you have to wear something with a turtle-neck (certainly not), but just use your better judgement and don't wear something that screams "cleavage" because you're trying to impress GIRLS here, not GUYS. ;)

Another thing that has been mentioned in other threads is that it's a good idea to wear a cute "conversation" piece of jewelery or other accessories- something that will help the sisters identify you later.

[astroAPhi]

Instead of flip-flops, find some cute, dressy, strappy sandals. That should keep you comfortable and still looking nice.

[erica812]

Good luck, RedFox!! You've got a Big cheering section here at GreekChat.

Erica

[RedFox]

:eek: Wait, which sororities hold regular bible studies? That might be an issue since I'm Jewish...I know that some are "christian-based" and whatnot but have all different religions in their sorority. Is mentioning that I'm jewish important during rush?:confused:

[Silverblue]

None of the sororities discriminate on the basis of religion, so don't worry about that. As far as I know, Pi Phi does not host weekly Bible studies -- it didn't when I was there, and we have no "chaplain" officer -- but they are not mandatory in the chapters that do. You need not mention your religion, as it shouldn't matter. On the other hand, if you want to mention it, feel free to do so. Diversity is a good thing! The chapters that offer Bible studies will tell the rushees about the Bible studies as a selling point, simply because this area is predominantly Christian -- though we have a good-sized Jewish community as well, with at least one awesome female rabbi. You have to decide if belonging to a chapter that offers Bible studies would make you uncomfortable, even though you wouldn't be required to attend.

I'd venture to say that most if not all of the national orgs that were founded before the turn of the century were founded in Christian principles. I know Pi Phi was. But most of the sororities' founders were Christian, and some of their colleges were affiliated with churches, so it was only natural. However, times have changed, and sororities' membership reflects that.

[DZHBrown]

I think it just depends on the chapter on if they hold Bible studies, but I've never heard of them being mandatory. I think it's just an "if you're interested" kind of thing.

[OUlioness01]

my chapter has had jewish women, and women who considered themselves atheist as well. they never had any problems, and i don't think you will either.

[RedFox]

Oh okay *phew* I thought it was going to be like "you can't join since your jewish" type thing hehe...Yay now I'm more optomistic!! :) Thanks for the information

[absolutuscchick]

Originally posted by RedFox
:eek: Wait, which sororities hold regular bible studies? That might be an issue since I'm Jewish...I know that some are "christian-based" and whatnot but have all different religions in their sorority. Is mentioning that I'm jewish important during rush?:confused:
Me too!! I'm also a little bit concerned about that, but hopefully everything will be fine!

[33girl]

Check out the websites...if there are Bible quotes, Bible study mentioned PROMINENTLY (as in more than chapter aerobics or whatever) or something like "we as members of XYZ all glory in Jesus Christ" (I've seen this on a chapter of a national group) you might not want to go there. Other than that, I wouldn't worry.

This is why I get kind of antsy when I hear about chapter Bible studies (or any other sort of religious or political thing within the chapter)...it might make PNMs feel uncomfy. An all-Greek Bible study would be a different story.

[Silverblue]

Chapters that do have optional Bible studies likely will mention them during rush, which allows rushees to cut that group if they're not comfortable with that, instead of being blindsided with that information after pledging. Only you can decide if you'd be comfortable belonging to a group knowing that one of their activities doesn't match your beliefs. Would that make you feel excluded? On the other hand, you may consider it a small part of the overall picture, like not playing on the chapter softball team if you aren't athletic. It's your call.

[KillarneyRose]

Good luck with Recruitment, RedFox!!! :)

[Buttonz]

Originally posted by RedFox
:eek: Wait, which sororities hold regular bible studies? That might be an issue since I'm Jewish...I know that some are "christian-based" and whatnot but have all different religions in their sorority. Is mentioning that I'm jewish important during rush?:confused:


Suggestion....if you are worried about it, mention it and also maybe look into sororities that were founded with Jews....at my campus SDT and AEPhi are known as the 'Jewish' ones for that reason and you see alot of Jews in them (both of course have there share of non-Jews also, but something like Bible studies will never happen there!)..Good luck to you and the rest of the PNM's on rush!

[Silverblue]

UT doesn't have SDT. It used to have AEPhi. One of my mother's close friends was in it. This was in the 1950s. I don't know when the chapter closed.

[adpiucf]

Pam/Rachel,

I hear you loud and clear. I am of Jewish decent-- when I went through I was actually VP of our campus Hillel--- and I remember going into one of the houses during recruitment and hearing a chapter president read the sorority creed, which said, "I believe in the high ideals of Christian womanhood" (I am paraphrasing) and I TOTALLY FREAKED OUT. This was at prefs and I was in LOVE with that sorority. I was so confused.... I went to the next house, which was made up of mostly Jewish sisters. I enjoyed spending time with those women, but even more, I realized that other house-- where I had a momentary panic attack, was really where I belonged.

Today, I'm so glad I didn't let a couple of words get in my way, b/c I have made some of the best friends of my life in Alpha Delta Pi. And no that's not a shameless plug for my sorority, it's just the gosh-honest truth.
Anyway, join a house for the women who are there, ask good questions and get straight answers. Be yourself. The sororities you are rushing are not religious orders; they are historically Judeo-Christian values-based organizations. Don't let a couple historical references scare you off. Some of the sororities do have bible study, but some have academic study-buddy programs, etc., and all of those things are optional, based on your needs and interests. There is no NPC sorority that has a mandatory bible study for its members.

Hope this helps.

Jew- Love (hee hee),
Abbey

[OleMissGlitter]

GOOD LUCK!

[Silverblue]

As a UT alumna, I am absolutely sure that Pam can find a home there.

[AXWhoah]

Happy to say that Alpha Chi Omega is completely non denominational! In fact my chapter's current president is jewish as are both of my little sis' though I myself am not!

[absolutuscchick]

Thanks girls!!! I feel so much better about the whole issue!!! :)

[RedFox]

Thanks guys! Sorry I didn't respond earlier, I went camping and white water rafting this weekend and I just got back! It was awesome, really a lot of fun (despite getting eaten alive by bugs!! lol but I think thats just because I'm so sweet ;)) Hope everyone had a great weekend too! :D

[RedFox]

A question for actives and alumni: How has being in a sorority been beneficial to you personally? I was thinking about that this weekend and I would love to know :) Share your answers if you'd like :D

[adpiucf]

Good lord, I am the poster child for how a sorority can benefit a person! :)

I can honestly say I have made my best and closest friends through my sorority. While many are my sisters, still many are not, but I would never have met those friends had it not been for our connection to ADPi. In college, enjoyed the experience of living in the sorority house, having the experience of going to school events like football games, etc., with HUGE groups (which makes it ever the more interesting and fun!), and just such unique little fun things.... it just made college even more amazing.

The working world: Every internship in college, every professional opportunity I have had-- again, the sorority networking! Whether it was a sister who recommended me, a sister who was my boss, a fellow Recruitment Counselor passing my name onto her intern employer, or my sorority house roommate's oldest sister taking me under her wing when I moved 3,000 miles away--- the friendships you make not only enrich your life personally, but 1000x professionally.

As an alumna, I moved away from my state not long after graduation. I knew about two people, and then I joined the Alumnae Assoc in Los Angeles. Now my closest and dearest friends are the sisters I have met through the association. It's funny, too, b/c even though we are all from different colleges and universities, I have yet to meet an ADPi that I couldn't see fitting into my own chapter. I think most sorority women feel that way, too. It's a great comfort to know you can pick up, move and start all over in a new place... but your sorority will always be home, no matter what phase of life you are in. I can't emphasize enough that sorority life is not just a college thing, just an eosteric ritual, just a status symbol-- it really is a way of life. A lifetime experience.

As you can see, the benefts are many. But they don't come overnight. Friendship is something you have to work out, so come around, show your face, call people--- you'll be richly rewarded for making the effort :)

[RedFox]

I envy you adpiucf. I hope if all of us PMN's find a home this fall that we end up as happy as you are! :)

[RedFox]

I was just curious as to what the quota information is...I know it varies from school to school, but does anyone know what the deal is at Tennessee? Regarding freebies or juiniors, etc? Any info would be great :)

[DZHBrown]

Pam, I joined my sorority as a junior, too. Some would ask why bother, but it was the best choice I ever made! I had lots of personal benefits, but I'll just give you a little synopsis :)
Of course, I have met some of the most amazing women that I know I would have never known. That's not limited to my chapter, either. I've met women all over the country and have very close friendships with many. I also gained quite a bit of leadership experience. I held several offices both in my collegiate chapter and as an alumna that provided me with many skills that are beneficial in the professional world. I also have a fabulous support system through my most difficult times. There are other ways I've benefitted, but those come to mind first!!

[honeychile]

FWIW, my big sister joined as a junior. She was more active than a lot of sisters who pledged as freshmen & were burned out! I wish more chapters realized this phenonenom!

Best of luck, RedFox!!

[texas*princess]

I joined as a junior!

I agree with everyone who said it was the best decision they ever made!!! :) It's not just a college thing, it's a lifetime committment, and even though I will only have a year and half as a collegiate, I definately plan on being an active alumnae!!!

adpiucf, thank you for sharing your experiences as to how much ADPi has helped you in so many ways! That's awesome!

[AXO_MOM_3]

Best of luck to you! When does everything start, and which groups are at your school? (Too lazy to do a search here!)

[sweetchicky]

Good luck sweetie and wish me luck too!;)

[RedFox]

17 Days left!!!!!! :-D Yay....who's getting excited!:D

[Not a Mezzo]

Yay!!! I know everything will go swimmingly for you.

You have 2,000 views for this thread!!! If that's not a sign of well-wishes from all the GC'ers, I don't know what is!

[adpiucf]

Originally posted by texas*princess
I joined as a junior!

I agree with everyone who said it was the best decision they ever made!!! :) It's not just a college thing, it's a lifetime committment, and even though I will only have a year and half as a collegiate, I definately plan on being an active alumnae!!!

adpiucf, thank you for sharing your experiences as to how much ADPi has helped you in so many ways! That's awesome!

Texas*Princess and Pam,
Thanks for letting me share :) I think one of the greatest things about sorority life is that it really is what you make of it, and that the effort you give and the kindnesses you show come back to you many times over. I also think that the greatest thing about about being a sorority member is not just that I can claim my own sorority affiliation, it is that I (and we all!) have that added connection and value of being Greek and having shared something so wonderful that we look out for one another. I don't know who coined the phrase, "No matter the letter, we're all Greek together," but it is perfect!

I can't wait for recruitment to begin for all of you collegians, both sisters and PNMs! :)

[Jill1228]

I am cheering for ya! :)

[adpiucf]

Just so you know! :)

[AUDeltaGam]

GOOD LUCK from a fellow SEC-er!

[RedFox]

Yay an SEC'er!! Man I have like 2 weeks to go and once I go home I have some MAD shopping to do! I'm so excited, I can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mmcat]

just to say again....all the best....all my support...and go for it.

[DZHBrown]

My sisters sent me a thank you for the rec, too! I thought that was really great. Don't you love sisterhood, adpiucf?? :)

[adpiucf]

It is great--- I feel wonderful when a chapter sends me a personal note to thank me. There's a lot to be said for a personal, handwritten letter!!! It shows people care :)

[DigitalAngel126]

Good luck RedFox, you'll have a great time!!!!

[Silverblue]

I've sent a rec for Pam to my chapter, and am waiting for acknowledgement of its receipt. Since Pam is rushing my very own beloved chapter, I'm not going to post on this thread after rush starts or send any PMs to Pam. In the interest of fairness, I'll just have to "disaffiliate" from this thread during UT's recruitment. But I'll be lurking here!

[blueGBI]

Just wanted to say good luck to my girl Pam! I wont be online when u go through rush but I'll be there in spirit. Good luck again!

Kendra :)

[mmcat]

about time to do your thing...
have a wonderful time and know we are with you.
also keep us posted.
cheers and lol

[SparkliiQTMTSU]

I cannot wait to hear all the rush threads :) especially yours :) hehe anyways Good luck *again hehe*


Nichole

[RedFox]

One week in counting from today!!!! Ahhhhhhhh....anyone else getting butterflies?!

[amandamarie]

I've got butterflies, dragonflies, a few grasshoppers, and I think I felt a bumble bee! LOL Yeah, you could say I'm nervous, but excited nervous. I guess that's a good thing, right? 4 more days here! Eeeeeeeek!

[Not a Mezzo]

Oh, my gosh, you guys make me so excited for you!!!! I can't wait to read all about your fabulous adventures during recruitment! Try and relax a little...if you've ever thought about trying yoga or pilates, maybe give it a go now. A nice, relaxing yoga tape or just meditation might help nix the bumble bees in your stomach!

[SparkliiQTMTSU]

I'm definitly starting to get a bit nervous! Since I dont even know who my Rho Sigma is yet and I havent talked to her I dont think that it has hit me as hard as most lol :) but Im sure starting next week Im going to be getting all sorts of nervous :)


Nichole

[amandamarie]

Nichole -
I bet your Rho Sigma will call or something really soon. My rush is just 4 days away, and my PX just called today. When I was talking to her, I went all blank for questions to ask her. I felt like saying, "I don't really have many questions, everyone on GC has me so prepared, I feel like an old pro at this" LOL I really hope she doesn't sugar coat everything just to reassure us. I'd rather her be straightforward then to let us get false hopes. Though I doubt that would happen. I'm really hoping she'll be a great PX, she'll have to be to put up with my unfounded nervous energy!

[AZpinkkittie]

Pam, I'm dying!!!!!!!! I can't wait to hear about your rush, but I'm starting to think I'll be a little consumed with mine to really read anyone elses. So I'll have to catch up on everyone elses after mines over. I'm so excited for you sweety!!!! only 5 days left right??

[RedFox]

3 days to go!!!!!:eek:

[amandamarie]

Good luck RedFox!! Our rushes are on the same days, so I'll be reading through yours while rushing and posting on mine. I have my fingers crossed for both of us!

[SparkliiQTMTSU]

yes definitly :) I cannot wait till Friday or actually Saturday when the real parties start and so many other GCers also begin to start their rushing also :) These boards are going to be buzzin for the next like 2 weeks straight hehe:) Good luck again to you girl :D



Nichole

[RedFox]

Thanx girl...It is getting down to the wire and I'm gettin excited!! woo hoo

[JohnsDGsweethrt]

I am so totally pulling for you Pam! Goooooooooooooooo Pam!

http://www.handykult.de/plaudersmilies.de/jump.gif

[breathesgelatin]

Rah Rah!!

I'm just posting to wish you good luck and subscribe!:cool:

[AXO_MOM_3]

Good luck to you! I am so excited about your recruitment thread! What sororities are at UTK?

[RedFox]

web.utk.edu/~sorority :)

Thanks for the support! Saturday's orientation!

[RedFox]

Okay so I've gotten all my clothes and everything for rush :) I'm so excited..I'm leaving tomorrow (well today at 6am) to head back to Knoxville..I am so excited to meet other PNM's at my school and I can't wait to meet my Rho Chi...woo hoo!

[AZpinkkittie]

Good luck Pam!!! I can not wait to hear all your juicy details!!

[rainbowbrightCS]

Go Pam. I can't wait to hear about your new home.


Keep us updated.

[Silverblue]

Since rush starts at UTK tomorrow, I won't be posting on this thread until after the whole thing is over. I will be lurking and checking frequently, however!

Pam, let your enthusiasm for Greek life show during the parties. You have a lot to offer a chapter -- get that message across to the actives. Wear comfortable shoes. Pack oil-blotting sheets in your purse. Keep an open mind. Let the recs some of us have written you give you a little boost in your self-confidence. And update us whenever you can! I wish you the best of luck, and I hope you find your new home.

[DZHBrown]

Pam, I'm so excited to hear about your recruitment experience!! Have an awesome time and most of all, ENJOY YOURSELF!! You'll find where you belong! Good luck!!

[Buttonz]

Pam.....GOOD LUCK!

[ajuhdg]

GOOD LUCK TOMORROW, PAM! Any of the groups will be lucky to have you! We're all pulling for you! WAHOO!!

aj

[Kristin AGD]

Wishing you GOOD LUCK!! Have a great time :)

[DZHBrown]

Pam, I hope you're having a blast today - and we expect a report tonight! ;)

[RedFox]

Hey everyone!! Thought I'd post (since i got like 10 IMs from people asking what happened today and I know how addicted you are to the threads so here we go!)

This morning was orientation...we met our Gamma Chi's and met the girls we went to the parties, etc with. My GC is soo sweet and very helpful! The girls I went through the parties with, though a lot of them freshman, were really down to earth and nice girls and I'm so excited to see where they end up also! I met sooo many wonderful girls today. Rush is definitely a great way to make contacts!

Okay on to the parties! I went to 14 different sororities today, I'm not going to go into too much detail about ones individually since today (so long! 2-8:30) was open house, but I will add that there were some groups that were very interested in finding out who I was, what I was interested in and enjoyed being there themselves, and then there were others that made me feel like "oh great another group, here we go" and were acting fake, I could definitely tell that off the bat. Most of the girls I talked to I had something in common with. I was introduced to a lot of the presidents and VPs and recruitment chairs, which I figured to be a good sign. Though many of the girls were exausted (AND showing it, complaining a lot, etc) I was chipper and upbeat and stuck with it in a totally positive attitude till the very end. I was complemented on having a great attitude throughout the process. Tomorrow is the first invitation response where we find out who cut us and which parties we will be attending on Monday. So thats all for now! I'll post more tomorrow!

[smiley21]

i am so happy for you. its awesome that you had a good attitude. thank God i only have to deal with three groups. lots of luck to you!!

[TriDeltaGal]

It sounds like you had an amazing day! Good Luck tomorrow!

[DZHBrown]

Good to hear from you, Pam! I'm looking forward to see where you'll be going on Monday! Good for you for staying upbeat!! I'm sure it showed :)

[Buttonz]

Yay! You posted :)! SOunds like for the most part you had a great time! can't wait to hear where you are going Monday

[AXO_MOM_3]

I'm glad you made it through such a long day with a great attitude! I imagine everyone - pnm's and sisters alike are exhausted by the end of the day! You will be remembered at those last parties for being so upbeat! Hope you have a blast at the next set of rounds!
Edited for typos! It's late, ok?:)

[adpiucf]

Pam, I'm glad you survived Round 1 with a big smile and I am thrilled to hear you got such a great reception by getting to meet so many key players (presidents and recruitment chairs).

We're all here if you need anything! :)

[RedFox]

I got my invites today...I got cut pretty heavily because I'm a junior and I totally understand that. I got asked back to 4 houses and I'm happy with the decision! Its kind of cool because now I really feel wanted. After the first round of cattle heards and everything, they liked me the person, so I'm very excited about that. I'm not sure which parties I go to tomorrow, if I go to all of them on the same day or if they are broken up, BUT looking over the notes I jotted down in my PNM book, I remembered enjoying meeting the girls a lot. After a LONG rush yesterday, I was so tired I just passed out on my bed lol. Anyway!

I was asked back to...

Alpha Chi Omega
Alpha Xi Delta
Delta Zeta
Pi Beta Phi

I'm going to name them using Seinfeld names lol. Okay I'm gonna use Kraemer, George, Elaine and Jerry....and they will be in no particuluar order :D I'll post later!

[MTSUGURL]

My fingers are crossed for you! Have a great time, and I hope you end up where you want to be!

[dzsaigirl]

Good luck! Can't wait to hear tonight's update!

Something tells me that I am not going to feel so refreshed and rejuvenated when I wake up at 5am tomorrow morning! Blame it on the rush threads!

[AXiDBelle]

I hope that you have a wonderful time and that you find a wonderful sisterhood with whichever organization you choose! (Secretly hoping for one --- guess which??) Be careful out there and remember to be true to who you are!

[AXO_MOM_3]

Hope you have a wonderful time tonight! I can't wait to hear what Jerry, Kramer, Elaine and George are up to!

[AGDLynn]

That's interesting...none of those groups have chapters at my school, lol! Oh well, I do know they have a wonderful national reputation!

Best of luck!

[DZHBrown]

Pam, I'm so glad to see that you're still upbeat and that you were asked back to a certain place ;) Which ever place you choose, I'm thrilled for you!!

[smiley21]

Originally posted by RedFox
I'm going to name them using Seinfeld names lol. Okay I'm gonna use Kraemer, George, Elaine and Jerry....and they will be in no particuluar order :D I'll post later!

haha!! how ever you assign them to the groups, i hope you go with kramer! he is the coolest!:D

[mmcat]

those are strong chapters...now just relax and have fun and let things fall where they may.

[33girl]

I love the Seinfeld names. Hope you are "queen of the castle" by the end of rush. :)

[pinkyphimu]

what a great attitude!!! have fun at your parties...and we, as always, we will be waiting to hear how they went!

[breathesgelatin]

Soo happy you're going back to Pi Phi, Pam! :)

[erniegurl00]

Dittos on the Pi Phi invite! :)

At any rate, I'm so happy to hear that recruitment is going well for you. You have a wonderful and positive additude about it all! Keep smiling and enjoy the rest of recruitment!

[SparkliiQTMTSU]

AWW thats great girl! Im so glad youre having a good time :) Im sure you will find your home :D better be sure to update GOOD LUCK!!

Nichole

[AZpinkkittie]

Pam, you crazy nut, I love the Seinfeld names!! I'm so glad you're having a good time! I can't wait to hear how everything goes!

[volgirl2376]

Good luck today Pam - hope to see you at Round 2!

[axoashley]

Good luck sweetie! Have fun at rush...you have some wonderful chapters to get to know! Yay for the Alpha Chi invite!

[RedFox]

okay I went to the first 3 parties today, named Jerry, George and Elaine, and Kraemer is tomorrow. I think I'm gonna post how all the parties went after all the parties are over. I know people are gonna yell at me for it but can't really say I have a favorite of the four until I've seen all four lol. Today was a lot of fun and i'm interested to see what tomorrow is like! I'll post soon!:cool:

[Aprylel21]

Reading this thread and all of the other rush threads are making me very excited for mine, of course I'll be on the other side. Good luck with everything!

[AXO_MOM_3]

Hope you have a great time at all the parties! Trying to curb my addiction here, and waiting patiently (NOT) to be sated after tomorrow's round! :)

[RedFox]

My last party of round 1 is today at 2ish....Kraemer! hehe I'm very excited to see how this whole round turned out...tomorrow is invites...ahhh way to long to wait since classes will have started!!;) My fingers are crossed for the other amazing PNMs on GC! i love you girls

[Dove Gal]

I wish you the best. Also don't forget to have fun :D

One heart, One way

[SparkliiQTMTSU]

Im wishing you the best Pam! Im sure you will end up in a wonderful place :) cant wait to hear how the 2nd round goes!!


Nichole

[DZHBrown]

Have a fabulous time at Kraemer!

[xo_kathy]

Pam - How was Kramer?! Do fill us in please!!!

[RedFox]

Classes started today, but I wanted to post to tell everyone about the parties! Well I went to Jerry, Elaine, and George on Monday and Kraemer yesterday. Out of the 4, Jerry and Kraemer are my two top, but this is just the first round!

In Jerry I had a lot of fun and I had a lot in common with the girl I talked to. The party went by too fast and I was sad to leave it. I definitely saw myself in that house. It was weird because people say that when they are in the house, they know..I felt it. it was weird, but again its only round 1.

In Elaine, I had fun as well in that house. The girls were more laid back and not AS talkative, but still interested and really excited to talk to me and the girl I was with. We also had a lot in common and the craft we did was really sweet, it felt like it lasted a little longer than Jerry but still went by rather quickly.

In George, the girls' chant was really catchy, I had it stuck in my head since it was the last party. They were a lot of fun and I asked a couple of the girls why they decided to rush that sorority and they said that they liked it becausethey were real and could be themselves. I definitely saw that. There was a lot of diversity in that house in terms of one group of people that I noticed, which was cool.

In Kraemer, I liked their set up of how they explained their philanthropy. I was excited when I learned about their creed and philanthropy because I had dealt with an experience that a friend of mine had with that particular situation. So I had something to talk to them about! :)

We'll see what happens today. I find out who and if I get invited back to any. My time is at 4:25 so we'll see!! Wish me luck! And good luck to the other PNMs!:cool:

[DZHBrown]

Good luck, Pam!

[volgirl2376]

30 more minutes :)

[RedFox]

News News News...I got cut by 2 but 2 kept me...Kraemer and George kept me and Jerry and Elaine cut me. I was upset about Jerry because I thought there was a connection. I didn't have as strong feelings about George, but they were above Elaine in terms of the girls that I bonded with at the parties. I am giving both a shot, tomorrow is skit night and I hope things go really well with George and Kraemer. Right now, my favorite is Kraemer and I hope they pref me!! But anyway..just wanted to post since you all wanted to know I'm sure. Talk to you all soon.

[breathesgelatin]

Congrats on your invites Pam! :)

[pinkyphimu]

congrats on your invites!!!

[Dolphingirl14]

Congrats on all of your invites! I've been reading this thread from beginning to end and I am totally addictied! Good luck! I'm sure you'll end where you belong! :D

[DZHBrown]

Well, I know Kraemer was one that you really liked, right? I hope you have a great time at Kraemer and George tomorrow!! I'm dying to know who they really are!! ;) Have a blast and GOOD LUCK!

[RedFox]

Kraemer was the one I liked!! We'll see tomorrow!!! Ahh

[SparkliiQTMTSU]

AW well I wish you the best of luck girl :) I hope all goes well for you!

Nichole

[absolutuscchick]

Good Luck at Skit Night!!!

[MooseGirl]

Sounds like you're having a good time!

Hope you have fun at Kramer and George!

[mmcat]

enjoy the ride....sounds like good possibilities.

[AZpinkkittie]

Sounds great Pam! I'm glad you got invited back to one of your faves! Wishing you luck on today's parties!!:D

[blueGBI]

Good luck with Kraemer girl! I'll be rooting for ya! :)

Kendra

[volgirl2376]

Round 2 starts at 6pm tonight (EST) - I hope I see you Pam! - I will be there at 5:30

[pinkyphimu]

how did tonight go?

[RedFox]

Tonight was Kraemer's skit night and OMG I feel like I totally belong in that house!!! I told them that too. I felt so comfortable and their skit was hilarious and looked like so much fun!! Tomorrow is George and we'll see how that goes as well but I hope Kraemer Pref's me !!!!!!!:D

[TechAPhi]

So glad to hear it! The nicknames you've given the houses certainly add to the delight I get in reading your thread. All the best to you!

[JohnsDGsweethrt]

Kraemer was always my fav character!

[mmcat]

now enjoy george...
fingers and toes crossed for you.

[DZHBrown]

Yay! I hope you have a great time at George, tonight, too. I'll be out of town for a couple of days and won't know what happening! Ack!!

[RedFox]

I went to George tonight and their skit was really cute and they were also really down to earth and sweet girls...however I definitely felt more comfortable in Kraemer...I hope I dont get a 6am call saying i fell through...I think Kraemer likes me though!! They told me they hope to see me back on Saturday! I know maybe they'll say that to everyone, but I definitely noticed a difference in vibes between the two sororities! We'll see what happens tomorrow if I don't fall through...my invites time is at 9:10am and Preference is tomorrow night!! ahhhhhhh :eek:

[WhiteDaisy128]

Sounds like a great time! I hope that you get carried through to pref as well! Pref is pretty magical so keep an open mind (still!!) and enjoy it. Let us know when you do!

[RedFox]

:( Thought I should post the bad news...I got a call from my gamma chi...I didn't make it through pref night...got cut. I fell through recruitment and its hard for me to look in the mirror and tell myself that...I really thought I had a shot going through as a junior, but I guess i was wrong. There is COB...but I dont know how I feel about that. I already feel embarassed enough telling everyone and anyone about this whole thing and now its like...ooh I fell through. I just feel like COB now (not before for some reason) is pitying me. I may as well tell you who the sororities were...Jerry was DZ, Elaine was AZD, George was Pi Beta Phi and Kraemer was Alpha Chi Omega. I thought they liked me, I really did. I guess I was totally wrong and I'm trying to think things over about how others really view me. Anyway, thats the end of my rush thread, man I thought it was going to be positive for once. Oh well...kind of hard to be upbeat now. Thank you all so much for being there and trying your best to get me as far as I could go. You all have really been supportive and great and i'm sorry things didn't work out. I kind of feel like I let you all down by building up suspense and all that, but anyway. hope to talk to you all soon.

[TechAPhi]

I am so very sorry to hear this. But hold your head high! You gave it a shot as a junior at a very competitive campus. We all admire you! You have nothing to feel embarassed about.

I know it is hard to imagine considering COB, but if it is an option, I urge you to check it out if you feel you still might enjoy Greek life. Many, many wonderful women join GLOs through COB.

COB is a great option for both sides -- it allows for a slower pace in a more relaxed setting. It's still a mutal selection process -- not pity in any way. Many times during formal recruitment, chapters simply don't have the time to get to know every woman and, alas, gems are sometimes lost!

COB gives both the chapter and the potential new member a second chance. :)

No matter what you decide, we all wish you the very best!

[mmcat]

hon...no embarrasment, do not hold your head down and no more tears. we all know how hard it is rushing as a junior. but definitely consider cob. i agree with techaphi, sometimes in the heat of battle a gem is lost. you are such a gem.

[MTSUGURL]

As a fellow junior that didn't get invited back to pref let me say this:

We have NO REASON to be embarrassed. We tried something we wanted without fear of ridicule (which in my case came from some because of my age.) How many people can say that in every day lives without hundreds of people watching? We did it in a high profile setting WITH hundreds of people watching.

Keep your mind open to COB - You've waited this long, you''ve tried this hard - One more try may be all it takes.

BIG HUGS to you Pam!

[GPhiBLtColonel]

Originally posted by MTSUGURL
As a fellow junior that didn't get invited back to pref let me say this:

We have NO REASON to be embarrassed. We tried something we wanted without fear of ridicule (which in my case came from some because of my age.) How many people can say that in every day lives without hundreds of people watching? We did it in a high profile setting WITH hundreds of people watching.

Keep your mind open to COB - You've waited this long, you''ve tried this hard - One more try may be all it takes.

BIG HUGS to you Pam!

Originally posted by TechAphi
I am so very sorry to hear this. But hold your head high! You gave it a shot as a junior at a very competitive campus. We all admire you! You have nothing to feel embarassed about.
I know it is hard to imagine considering COB, but if it is an option, I urge you to check it out if you feel you still might enjoy Greek life. Many, many wonderful women join GLOs through COB.

COB is a great option for both sides -- it allows for a slower pace in a more relaxed setting. It's still a mutal selection process -- not pity in any way. Many times during formal recruitment, chapters simply don't have the time to get to know every woman and, alas, gems are sometimes lost!

COB gives both the chapter and the potential new member a second chance.

No matter what you decide, we all wish you the very best!




Ditto what they both said -- I know you are feeling low now but don't rule out COB -- you'd be an asset at any house and it's unfortunate things turned out like this but COB is always a possibility -- if you don't at least give it a try you may kick yourself years from now...we are all behind you - don't forget that!:)

[aephi alum]

I'm so sorry. :(

Listen to Crystal... wise words.

Chin up :) and think about COB.

[WhiteDaisy128]

There are always other options...

Like everyone else said there is no reason to be embarrased...most juniors wouldn't even have the guts to go through formal recruitment anyway!!

[AZpinkkittie]

Pam, it seems like you've been my partner through this whole thing since the beginning. We were both really nervous about going through as older girls. things may not have worked out as you hoped, but you did make an impression on these girls, a great one I'm sure. Limitations hurt everyone. Perhaps COB will be a great chance for the sisters to take lots of PNM's like you! Girls they loved but had to cut. I'm verry sorry you had to go through this, but your such a great person, things have to turn out right in the end.

[ZTAMich]

Many hugs to you Pam. Hope you enjoy the weekend and think about COBing too.

[JohnsDGsweethrt]

Pam you did an amazing job and are an amazing woman! COB is a viable option for you and I hope you explore it! Good luck!

[DWAlphaGam]

I just wanted to jump in and encourage you to try to COB, as well. I joined through COB, and believe me, it's definitely not a "pity bid." A sister is a sister, no matter how she joined. And, even if you don't get to COB, alumnae initiation is always another possibility. Just because you were not able to join from formal recruitment doesn't mean that all doors are shut to you. Good luck with whatever your decision may be.

[breathesgelatin]

Pam--this is really rough. I totally admire anyone who goes through recruitment as a junior! Don't rule out COB and stick around!

[SparkliiQTMTSU]

AWWW sweetie I am so sorry to hear that you fell through :( but its hard going through as a jr they dont think youre going to stick around enough or something I dont really know . but anyways you do still have a shot at COB :) I hope all goes well.

Nichole

[IvySpice]

I know there's nothing we can say to stop those cuts from hurting. But please, please don't feel that you've let us down. You were so generous to share your story with us, and we would hate to think that we are contributing to your sadness even in the tiniest way. YOU tackled an uphill battle and gave it your all; how could we think that you had let us down?

There are so many ways to get involved on a big campus; I hope you'll explore singing groups, religious groups, public service groups, club sports, publications. To be perfectly frank, sororities do not have any kind of monopoly on helping you find a lifelong group of close college friends who you love like family. You can find that without COB, without AI, without greek life at all.

Ivy

[GiantsChic]

oh sweetie, I'm soo sorry. Trust me when I say I know how you feel. Please don't let this experience make you feel any less about yourself, and things will get better in time :)

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Sometimes National HQ strongly discourages a chapter from taking juniors during formal recruitment. If you join through COB, it could be what the sisters wanted all along.

[pinkyphimu]

pam, you did a great job this week!!! don't think that just bc you got cut means that no one liked you!!!! as we have all said, there are a zillion superficial reasons- grades, class standing, etc.- that would have nothing to do with how the chapters thought of you as a person! take a peek a cob, bc you never know what you will find. plus, as my wise sister, deltabetababy, just said, there may have been a push to take more younger girls in formal, but that doesn't mean they won't pick you up afterwards. see what chapters are having cob events right after rush and see what they have to offer!! good luck with your decision!

[Moxie]

pam, i think you should be proud of yourself for getting through the week, in general. it's SUCH a stressful time and many girls drop out - you had the initiative to go through even though you knew it would be hard, and you kept going even though the week wasn't all pansies and roses. you can always try COB like people have said, but you should also be glad that you had the guts to experience this and you should NOT take it personally.

[RedFox]

Okay this is really weird...I just got a phone call from my Gamma Chi and she said that I was asked back to Sigma Kappa for pref..and that there was some mix up or something...this is so weird since I wasn't asked back after open house...she said she's going to call me back and explain the details..She said I can pref them but I want AXO..what do you think I should do? Is it possible to get a snap bid from AXO as well or what I dunno what to think it was all so fast

[pinkyphimu]

GO CHECK IT OUT!!!! at least go to the party! if you totally don't like it after the party, then don't sign your bid card. you will never know if you don't at least go to the party! plus, you already have a cute outfit for tonight, why let it sit in your closet!!!

[RedFox]

if i was even invited....this convo was like 20 seconds long...I'm so lost lol

[RedFox]

but would preffing sig kap lessen my chances of getting a snap bid from AXO...if i even got preffed at all...this is all so weird

[Angels&Arrows]

Go to their pref, since you have not talked to the ladies of SK since first rounds, you can get to know them a little better! If you are not comfortable signing your pref card, then you have that opition.

[RedFox]

Lets say Im preffed at Sig Kap...and on my bid card or whatever, can I put AXO as my first choice?

[AllisonDG]

Originally posted by RedFox
but would preffing sig kap lessen my chances of getting a snap bid from AXO...if i even got preffed at all...this is all so weird

I dont mean to sound pessimistic, but I dont think you should counting on a snap bid from AXO. I know that in my school, usually only a couple chapters have to give them and even then it is just a couple of girls. If SK likes you enough to invite you to pref, I say just go.

[pinkyphimu]

i don't think that anyone here can say anything about the possibility of being snap bid. go to sigma kappa tonight, relax and have fun. pref is a great night! the ceremonies are all so beautiful and it will really give you a much better feel for the sisterhood than first rounds. good luck.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally posted by AllisonDG
I dont mean to sound pessimistic, but I dont think you should counting on a snap bid from AXO. I know that in my school, usually only a couple chapters have to give them and even then it is just a couple of girls. If SK likes you enough to invite you to pref, I say just go.

I can't say I agree or disagree because I have no knowledge of UT-K or AXO or anything else, but going to SK's pref will not affect your chances of getting a snap bid at AXO.

In fact, it may help, because AXO may see that you completed recruitment but did not match, instead of seeing that you withdrew early.

[RedFox]

but what am i supposed to say at pref if i didn't go to the first and second rounds?

[BaylorBean]

I agree with everyone so far, especially DeltaBetaBaby. Going to SK's pref won't hurt your chances of getting a snap bid from AXO.

Don't worry about what you are supposed to say. They all will know that there was some kind of mix up. Just have a normal conversation. Catch up on all the questions you would have liked to have answered the first and second rounds.

Good Luck!!:D

By the way, did you find out yet what the mix up was?

[KappaKittyCat]

Pam,

You could go to SK's Preference and still put ACW first on your preference card. You could theoretically put SK last on your card, or not at all.

My suggestion would be to go to Preference and see how you feel. At the end of the night, if you're not feeling it, you don't have to put them on your card-- heck, you don't even have to sign your card. But by all means, don't eliminate your options.

Good luck.

[WhiteDaisy128]

I'm a big believer in things happen for a reason...for some reason you are being magically brought back to SK...check it out...you can go from there on what decision you want to make...you have no obligation to sign a bid card.

...after the Pref you may be dying to sign it though, whether it's SK or AXO.

[absolutuscchick]

I'm really hoping that everything ends up working out--either with SK or maybe even the snap bid thing with AXO! I'm totally praying for you!!!!

[RedFox]

Well...just got a call back from the Gamma Chi...she made a mistake...no Sig Kap..I figured it was weird...it didn't make sense as to why I was being brought back all of a sudden. So yep, still cut..but thanks for the support anyhow.:p

[33girl]

I would just like to echo everyone that says if you receive a COB it is far from a "pity" bid. Don't let your pride get in the way of something if that is what you want!

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Um, does anyone else think this is a bit fishy? I don't know your feelings about your rho sigma, but I don't like her.

[absolutuscchick]

Originally posted by DeltaBetaBaby
Um, does anyone else think this is a bit fishy? I don't know your feelings about your rho sigma, but I don't like her.
Yea, I think that this rho sigma seriously needs to get her facts straight before she calls and tells you that you're invited to pref...I mean that's totally not at all cool. Well, I hope that COB works out with Alpha Chi!

[AXO Alum]

Hey Pam - I have been reading your thread (whenever I am able to get on the internet!) and crossing my fingers for you every step of the way - now to know that AXO is in your heart, makes me ache for you even more! Any chapter would be lucky to have you, and if they can't see that, then they are missing out!! This ESPECIALLY goes for AXO!

Having gone through many recruitment sessions, I can tell you that I always tell them not to discount the older girls -- yes, having freshmen is better for longevity with the chapter, but they often lack the maturity and grace that they need to be responsible!!

I pledged as a junior, and have been WAY more active for the Fraternity through my alum status than any freshman :p

Don't discount snaps or COB's -- or informal recruitment if chapter's on campus offer it. It doesn't mean they pity you, or are less desirable chapters - it means that they saw something special in you, and you can be just what they need to get some new energy sparked!!

Regardless of how it works out in the end, you are a trooper and you have done no shame to yourself or to us - you only make us believe more strongly that saying "no" automatically to juniors isn't always a smart move! Best wishes to you always!!!

[SigEp_Stud]

first time i read a rush thread and i have to say it was very intense and dramatic.

you can always be a Sig Ep Sweetheart :)

[mmcat]

your rho sigma is very shady....that's ridiculous.
but keep your head up. if cob presents itself, run with it. keep a smile on your face and understand we are all so proud of you.

[AOIIalum]

Originally posted by 33girl
I would just like to echo everyone that says if you receive a COB it is far from a "pity" bid. Don't let your pride get in the way of something if that is what you want!

Well said, 33girl!

I was extended a COB bid, and was thrilled that AOII wanted me. Trust me, I've never heard of anyone being extended a "pity bid" anywhere. If you are extended a bid--whether it's through Formal or a Snap Bid or Open recruitment/COB--it's because that sorority wants YOU. I've been part of AOII for almost 20 years now, and I can state that it hasn't made a difference all about how I got to AOII.

I don't know if anyone will have COB at UT-K, but if you're interested make sure to ask someone and follow up if need be! There's nothing wrong with asking and letting the recruitment staff know you'd still be interested in joining a sorority! Good luck!

Christin

[DZHBrown]

Pam, I am so bummed out that things didn't work out for you! You're such an awesome girl and you'd make an incredible addition to any sorority.

[chideltjen]

i am chiming in on the COB idea. Don't let one event get in the way of your dreams. I have never been thru formal recruitment nor does my house participate in it, but our events are similar to COB events, so I have heard. You get to know more girls... you aren't forced to leave to go to another one after 30 minutes... people are more relaxed.

Also, try a local sorority. Particularly ones that are associated with Panhellenic if possible. (I don't know who is at your school.) The way I figure, a greek is a greek, regardless.

[rainbowbrightCS]

If I were you I would contact the greek advisor about her. For her to do that to you, who knows she may have done that to other girls. Let them know so she can not be another Gamma Chi again and hurt girl that are not as strong as you.


Chris

[TechAPhi]

Originally posted by rainbowbrightCS
If I were you I would contact the greek advisor about her.

I agree. It was VERY wrong of her to renew someone's hopes and then dash them again. This could not be proper procedure and should be looked into.

[WhiteDaisy128]

Originally posted by TechAPhi
I agree. It was VERY wrong of her to renew someone's hopes and then dash them again. This could not be proper procedure and should be looked into.

ditto

[AZpinkkittie]

Oh my gosh, I thought I was gonna choke when i read through everything. I'd be so upset if that happened to me. You are a strong women to even be able to type after that.

I really have to agree with everyone that COBing would not be pity. If they didn't want you, they wouldn't take you, period. Formal recruitnment has so many restrictions and rules, COB may be perfect for the house to let in all the girls they really want to. Go for it like you did for formal!! It could pay off big time!

[DeltaBetaBaby]

I think it is a very strong possibility that your Rho Chi is a SK...and she is having a lot of trouble remaining neutral.

[TriDeltaGal]

I'm so sorry about your rush experience...I would definitely recommend checking out any of the sororities that are COBing. It is a TOTALLY different experience and it might open up a lot of doors to houses that you might not have clicked with during rush...Good Luck!

[Munchkin03]

I'm really sorry that things have turned out the way that they have. If you are still feeling uncomfortable with your Rho Sigma's behavior, PLEASE contact Panhel!

I did COB, and I think it's a great thing. Please contact me if you have any questions or concerns, okay?

Hugs!

[sueali]

Originally posted by DeltaBetaBaby
I think it is a very strong possibility that your Rho Chi is a SK...and she is having a lot of trouble remaining neutral.

I agree with you guys that her Rho Chi is shady but you shouldn't jump to conclusions and say she's a Sigma Kappa.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally posted by sueali
I agree with you guys that her Rho Chi is shady but you shouldn't jump to conclusions and say she's a Sigma Kappa.

You are right, clearly her RX is from some entirely other chapter and pulled sigma kappa out of thin air.

[sueali]

Her Rho Chi could have gotten her mixed up with another girl, we don't know what happened.

[erniegurl00]

Maybe there was some kind of mix up in Panhel that we don't know about. I was a PX last year, and weird mix ups can happen. I know sometimes a member of Panhel would just tell me to take an action and I would follow. Maybe her PX was just following orders? There is always a possibility that she is a SK, but maybe we should let RedFox call Panhel and see if she can find anything out?

[tinydancer]

Pam, I am so sorry that things have not worked out so far. Please consider COB - it seems to be a good and more informal way to meet more members and make an informed decision. You should be proud of yourself for what you have done - many girls would not have wanted to rush.

Feel better, ok??

[RedFox]

Hey ya'll....no snap bid for me...so maybe COB is an option.. I'm feeling a lot better than I have been these past couple of days...I found out that my GX is a Pi Beta Phi...haven't heard from her since but i got a couple phone calls from girls in my rush group asking if I was alright and we are still friends..adorable girls. I'm going to give them a call tonight and see where they ended up today. I guess it was just a mix up...but oh well. COB starts September 2nd. What exactly happens now? Do they come to me or what?

[DZHBrown]

Usually (at least at my school), the sororities that will be having open bidding will have COB parties. They are generally much more relaxed than formal recruitment and a lot more fun, I think! I would either contact the sororities and find out who is having parties and when or be on the lookout for advertisements. Don't discount any sororities you didn't like or that cut you - start with a fresh slate! You may find qualities about them you didn't see before since the atmosphere is more relaxed and vice versa!

[honeychile]

Just want to echo DZHBrown's advice! This is a whole new ballgame, and actually, a little more realistic. Any friends you've made in the various chapters or your Rho Chi group who are in sororities that are COBing - let them know that you're interested! They are just as interested in having people come to their COB parties as you are in going!

[Silverblue]

Call the Panhellenic Building and ask who's doing COB.

[UGAnchora]

COB is a great way to go! AS most people on GC know, my chapter did not do so hot in formal recruitment. We have been COBing since Bid Day(the 18th) and have gotten 7 new girls- one of which is a JUNIOR! I think COB is a wonderful way for you to get to really know the girls. I know I am more comfortable at COB parties than formal parties and the girls get to know the real me that way.

Whatever you do, Good luck!

(even if you're a Vol...:cool: )

[AOIIBrandi]

Go through COB it is a great experience, and many of the chapters are more at liberty to take the older girls they had to pass on during formal. As someone else said formal recruitment has so many rules regarding cuts and things. Please keep in mind that sometimes cuts (especially early on) have nothing to do with you as a person and going to a COB party can give you and them a second chance to make a good fit.

[breathesgelatin]

That is wacky about the Sigma Kappa invite... Sounds like Panhel was being pretty stressed out!

I, too, encourage you to check out COB at any of the chapters you felt a connection with.

[RedFox]

Thanks guys for the support. But how exactly does COBing work? Do they come to you and can you COB more than 1 sorority? Are there cuts? COB'ing here starts September 2nd. I heard from a friend of mine that went Sig Kap that they are still calling girls about snap bids...dunno whats up with that but anyway, toodles for now :)

[honeychile]

Pam, every school does it differently, but usually any of the women who signed up for rush but didn't pledge is contacted by the various sororities for COB. At my school, it was not considered gauche to contact any of the (geniune) friends you've made and tell them you're interested in COB. Some schools have a more structured COB, or at least have a second Pref. It wouldn't hurt to contact the Greek Advisor and find out what the tradition is for YOUR school.

Most of all, keep that wonderful attitude of yours, and best of luck to you!

[AOIIBrandi]

Usually with COB the org has an open party for anyone that is interested, could be as informal as a bowling party or as formal as pref was. You still have to meet the school's minimum standards for rush ie. GPA, good standing... Sometimes they advertise, sometimes it is word of mouth. There are no cuts it is usually just one evening and then they make their decisions. They will usually tell the women at the party to be home at a certain time on a certain day, and that is when they will notify you.

You may attend more than one COB, but remember that the orgs make their decisions and extend bids quickly during this time. It is not like rush where you will get the chance to see several groups at one time. You should only COB groups you think you can see yourself in and would accept a bid from immediately, if offered, because if ABC extends a bid you can't really tell them you need to wait a week because you still want to go to COB at XYZ.

[volgirl2376]

There was definately a mix-up in Panhellenic. Apparently there was a huge computer problem and that is what prompted Gamma Chi's to contact people and tell them about a sorority giving an invitation to a girl and it ending with it not being true. Yes, it is frustrating but it wasnt the Gamma Chis fault.

[mmcat]

how sad for all around....

[volgirl2376]

Yeah - it was bad, and I feel sorry for all involved

[DeltaBetaBaby]

IMO, you can go ahead and e-mail the president or rush chair of an org. that you know is COBing and express interest. I have been on the chapter's side of it, and if they are looking for women, the more the better.

[shadokat]

RedFox,

Definitely contact the Panhellenic Advisor and ask what groups will be doing COB. That way you'll have an idea of where you can go. Don't be pressured though by the fact that you may get a bid quickly and you have to decide on the spot. If you need a day to think, that's ok.

[RedFox]

Alright all..I've taken everyone's advice and contacted the VP of Panhellenic Recruitment. I asked her about juniors and what the situation is with taking them and I asked which sororities will be participating in COB which starts september 2nd. We'll see what she says and I'll let you all know.

[DZHBrown]

Good luck, Pam! I hope you'll be able to COB!

[mmcat]

i echo that...you will never know unless you give it a shot.
:cool:

[MTSUGURL]

I'm so glad you've decided to COB! My fingers are crossed!!!!

[SparkliiQTMTSU]

YAAY! Im so glad youve decided to do COB :) GooD LUCK!~



Nichole

[RedFox]

We all need to meet up somewhere one night and meet up for dinner or something! You girls are awesome! Hugs and kisses

[bsp-mich24]

Pam,

Good Luck w/ COB.:D

[RedFox]

The VP emailed me back...I'll find out who is COBing on Tuesday when I head over there. Any particular questions as to what I should be asking?

[adpiucf]

Are you heading over to sorority houses Tue or Panhellenic? If you are goin to Panhellenic, ask which chapters are holding events. Ask about how this process differs from formal recruitment, right on down to attire.

At the sorority houses-- Just like in formal recruitment, ask all the same questions and talk about your assets, just as you would have for a formal recruitment party. If you are warming up to a chapter, tell them that you like them, you feel comfortable, you really admire their sisterhood, etc. Don't be afraid to talk about your talents and attributes that make you an outstanding prospective member-- your performing talents, that you will be in school another 3 years, GPA, your unique experiences, etc.

Best of luck!

Pi Love and Mine :)

[DZHBrown]

Originally posted by RedFox
We all need to meet up somewhere one night and meet up for dinner or something! You girls are awesome! Hugs and kisses

I think that's a great idea, Pam!

[polarpi]

Best of luck with COR (recruitment rather than bidding)! Like many have said, it's a MUCH more relaxed atmosphere to get to know members of the sorority. Our chapter usually went bowling, watched TV in our chapter room, or even had a Super Bowl party as COR events. Those chapters would be lucky to get a sweetheart such as yourself as a sister! :)

[MTSUGURL]

Originally posted by RedFox
We all need to meet up somewhere one night and meet up for dinner or something! You girls are awesome! Hugs and kisses

All for that chickie!

[RedFox]

I hear the only groups that are COBing are Pi Beta Phi, Sigma Kappa and Alpha Xi Delta...I'm debating going tomorrow..any thoughts? comments?

[tinydancer]

I'd go and check it out. What can it hurt? :)

[honeychile]

I'll second that! At least you'll have looked & decided from there.

(and just think, Pi Beta Phi is the stronghold of the "Carnation Nation"!! ;) )

[pinkyphimu]

those are all great groups!!! go to the parties and see how it goes. some chapters are just better are cob. cob gives the chapter and the pnm to get to know one another in a much less fake and much less rushed environment. you will have the opportunity to meet more people bc the sisters won't be rotating around in certain groups. you will also get a chance to meet the new members and get a feel for life as a new member. go, have fun and keep us posted!


honeychile, that is exactly what i was thinking! i was going to say that carnation would probably adopt you if you went pi phi lol!

[AllisonDG]

I say go and check it out...there is nothing to lose in looking! :) good luck :)

[honeychile]

Originally posted by pinkyphimu


honeychile, that is exactly what i was thinking! i was going to say that carnation would probably adopt you if you went pi phi lol!

That's the hardest I've laughed in days!! Thank you SO much!! :D

[mmcat]

sweetie...give it a shot. what do you have to lose?
it might just be where you were meant to be....
and if you pick up carnation as a new aunt...why not?

[erniegurl00]

I say just go and see the chapters. What could it hurt? My chapter COBs as well, and I know our events are more fun and casual than formal recruitment. During COB you can relax more and concentrate on having fun!

PS. Heck, I'd adopt you if you went Pi Phi! (JK!)

[breathesgelatin]

Go!! I'll be your honorary aunt also!!

No seriously, I remember that you enjoyed Pi Phi when you were going through recruitment, and it's definately worth checking out the other groups too. Maybe your home is waiting for you! :)

[polarpi]

Best of luck....all three groups should be thrilled to have a sweetheart like yourself! :)

[MTSUGURL]

Originally posted by RedFox
I hear the only groups that are COBing are Pi Beta Phi, Sigma Kappa and Alpha Xi Delta...I'm debating going tomorrow..any thoughts? comments?

Yes - GO! Have fun.

[AXO Alum]

Originally posted by AOIIBrandi
You should only COB groups you think you can see yourself in and would accept a bid from immediately, if offered, because if ABC extends a bid you can't really tell them you need to wait a week because you still want to go to COB at XYZ.

I just wanted to bring this quote back down -- these are some great words of wisdom!! I know that in the past for COB's, some PNM's have been confused and thought they could "wait" to decide among the other COB'ing sororities -- needless to say, this creates mass confusion, not to mention hurt feelings on the sorority side.

I only know the SK's from here on GC (which are great by the way), but AZD had a pretty strong hold at our campus -- and of course Pi Phi does have its honorary aunts up for adoption :D -- I really don't think you could go wrong with any of these. Its all about your attitude (obviously GREAT!) and what impact you will make as a sister.

Can't wait for your update!! Have a great day and a wonderful week!!

[AUDeltaGam]

Good luck!!

[RedFox]

I just got back from COB..the groups that participated were ZTA, Pi Beta Phi, Sigma Kappa, Lamda Alpha Theta (latino sorority), and Alpha Xi Delta...so we'll see what happens next I guess..some of the girls have already gotten phone calls to join, I've heard nothing yet, I'll see what happens I suppose

[AOII_LB93]

Hope all goes well for you! :)

[Aphigurl]

Good Luck with COB!:)

[polarpi]

Pam,
I know your home is out there somewhere...if it doesn't wind up being as a collegiate, always think about alumnae initiation...I know there are some GCers out here that have gone through AI and could tell you more about it!
Best of luck with the rest of COR!

[RedFox]

for anyone who has gone through COB/COR...how long should I be waiting for to recieve a bid...after how long should I just be like, its not gonna happen? I know its "continuous" but I'm sure they would have extended a bid by a certain time...how long about? Just to let you know...there were 15 girls that COB'd. I was the only junior and I think there were 2 sophomores...a couple of them already recieved bids, so we'll see I guess. Trying to stay positive here. Talk to you all soon.

[breathesgelatin]

Actually, that sounds like amazingly quick uptake on COB bids to me... :eek:

Maybe my school works differently than others, but I think there's definately still a chance for a bid! :)

[pinkyphimu]

was there only one cob party? i am not sure how that would work. do you know if they are having more parties? is there anyone from this school who could explain the cob process more?????

[mmcat]

for what it's worth, my fingers are now crossed for you. this sounds like a different sort of a deal. but who knows...just keep is coool, cooley cool...(as in west side story) and see what fate hands you.

[TriDeltaGal]

RedFox, I really hope that COB works out for you and I wish you all the luck!

[DZHBrown]

We usually held 2 or 3 parties or get togethers before we offered a bid.... Good luck!