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moe.ron
06-18-2003, 12:26 PM
"Feminism is simply the belief that a woman has the right to become herself, just as a man has the right to become himself. All decent people, male and female, are feminists. The only people who are not feminists are those who believe that women are inherently inferior or undeserving of the respect and opportunity afforded men. Either you are a feminist or you are a sexist/misogynist. There is no box marked 'other'." - Ani DiFranco
MoxieGrrl
06-18-2003, 12:36 PM
Agree
Nikki_DZ
06-18-2003, 01:14 PM
Very much agreed.
I knew that B.A. in Women's Studies would be useful at some point ;)
Hootie
06-18-2003, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by Nikki_DZ
Very much agreed.
I knew that B.A. in Women's Studies would be useful at some point ;)
I'm taking my social science Women's Studies course right now (ends next Wendesday). I've learned A LOT! Everything from how other cultures view women and their worth to the rights not given to women.
I used to think FEMINISM was a dirty word: like I associated it with lesbians and far out liberal women. But taking this class has really opened my eyes. There are women out there who are very much Feminist and don't realize it. So I would have to say I AGREE with that statement. There really can't be an "other" box. Either you are for women in all or some areas or you're completely against them.
sigmagrrl
06-18-2003, 01:45 PM
My only problem comes when someone says being a feminist means I'm anti-man. I LOVE men, I just want what is right and fair for my fellow femmes is all!
swissmiss04
06-18-2003, 01:57 PM
Completely agree. It's a shame that the term feminist has become synonymous w/ "militant lesbian". Of course there are women out there bent on world domination and the fall of the male sex, but they're few and far between. I consider myself a feminist in the sense that I believe that women, while not identical to men, are certainly equal. Being a feminist should be about being glad you're female, not trying to prove what a "man" you are. :p
Hootie
06-18-2003, 01:57 PM
That's just the strereotype...feminists are men haters, women libbers, bra burners, lesbos, hippies....
But I can understand what you mean cuz I felt the same way!
GMUBunny
06-18-2003, 03:14 PM
I was in the same "feminist= ack!" group till I started really understanding what feminism is. Yes, there are the die-hard man-hating feminazis, but there is more to feminism than that. I'm a huge fan of Margaret Cho and she is a great role model for what a feminist is and should be!
I'm not saying all women are equal in, say, the area of professional football or anything like that. There are some things men are better at than women. That's just biology. But as far as the working world... we can do anything a man can do. So there! :p
Rudey
06-18-2003, 03:15 PM
Feminist...fascist...
-Rudey
--What's the difference?
valkyrie
06-18-2003, 03:22 PM
I agree!
I consider myself a feminist, and to me being a feminist means that I believe that women should have all the same rights, opportunities and responsibilities that men have. It also means that women should support other women no matter what they want to do -- if you want to be a business woman, a stay at home mom, a stripper, whatever. I support you fully. And I like men, LOL.
justamom
06-18-2003, 04:04 PM
Bullshirt! :D Just kidding!
Disagree. I do not acept the premis, and I reject the definition.
Too many conceptual variables associated with the term. Just saying how YOU (universal) view the meaning of feminism has no bearing on how others interpret it.
astroAPhi
06-18-2003, 04:10 PM
I'm an everyone-ist. :)
DeltaSigStan
06-18-2003, 04:12 PM
This one WS course I was in (THERE WAS NOTHING LEFT ON THE SCHEDULE OK), they spent an entire day bashing Greeks. As the only greek in a room full of 65 pissed women and 5 guys, I had no one to back me up.
They brought up Auburn, which bretty much left me defenseless.
The prof asked me if I went down to our Auburn chapter if I'd be accepted as a bro. I honestly said I dont know. They had a field day with that.
You gotta keep in mind, in many aspects, Feminist means anti fraternity as well.
GMUBunny
06-18-2003, 04:22 PM
Originally posted by astroAPhi
I'm an everyone-ist. :)
Has anyone seen the movie "100 Girls"? I guess I agree most with what the guy said at the end. 'there are too many -ists in the world. the only -ists I think there should be are humanists'. I do believe in equal rights for EVERYONE, regardless of race, gender, creed... If that makes me a feminist by definition, then so be it.
edited to add: I know this probably contradicts my original post, but the more I thought about it, the more I liked the humanist aspect better!
sugar and spice
06-18-2003, 04:27 PM
I agree, and I've been saying the exact same thing almost to the letter since I was 15. :)
It really disturbs me whenever I hear an educated woman talking about how she "hates feminists." Without feminists, women wouldn't have the right to vote, or be able to hold their own property, divorce, wear pants, work outside the home in any job but teacher, nurse and secretary. They wouldn't be allowed to choose not to have children. Girls wouldn't have the option to do any high school sport except cheerleading . . . and that's just the beginning. I wouldn't be surprised if the founders of our sororities were all feminists in some way or another, since many of them were going to college in a time when most women didn't -- by furthering their education and creating fraternities similar to what the men did, they were displaying some sort of feminist behavior.
To me, it's crazy to see a woman who is obviously reaping the benefits of feminism (she played softball in high school, wears jeans on a regular basis, votes in every election and works as a businesswoman) claim she hates feminists. It's cool to see that so many of yall have seen the "feminists=man-hating lesbians" myth for what it is. :)
AXO Alum
06-18-2003, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by justamom
Bullshirt! :D Just kidding!
Disagree. I do not acept the premis, and I reject the definition.
Too many conceptual variables associated with the term. Just saying how YOU (universal) view the meaning of feminism has no bearing on how others interpret it.
AGREED -- with JAM that is!! I am an everyone-ist as well -- I just think that people need to quit worrying so much about what OTHERS think of them, and start worrying about how each one feels about him/herself!
I guess I am just way to secure with being ME without having to look over my shoulder to make sure that I am keeping up or where that I am where others "think" I should be in life.
One of my fav quotes:
You wouldn't worry so much about what others think about you if you knew how seldom they did!
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