Discretion

[Tillennium01]

Hi to all!

I'm a high school student thats interested in Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. I would like for the present members to clarify some things for me.

~What are some things that shouldnt be asked about Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc by a prospective?~

I know this is where the terminology "discreet" come in. I am curious because present members get agitated when prospectives ask them questions thats inappropriate to ask. I would like to know what areas not to touch and questions not to ask. I dont want to get my feelings hurt, so this is y I'm posting this topic.

After this question is answered, I shall proceed.

Tillennium01

[pink bunny]

I think history questions with regard to the sorority are out of the question you should do your own research and what you can't find or don't know is not for you to know. If there is no obvious signs or posters with respect too upcoming events etc. then i would inquire about programs you can attend. I would focus on just being friendly and support them at their functions. Good luck.

[Tillennium01]

Thanx for the good luck, pink bunny! I'm pretty sure I'll need it. One thing though, u didnt answer my question. Was this post as a whole inappropriate? Or something u didnt wanna touch?

Tillennium01

[AKAtude]

Considering that you are still in high school, it is confusing to know what is appropriate and what is not. Once you get to college, you will find out rather quickly that it is best not to ask any questions....
period. Until then, enjoy your time in high school and concentrate on your academics and getting into college.

[pink bunny]

Tillennium01 i answered your question. Reread my post. In simplest terms: DON'T ASK HISTORY QUESTIONS. DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH. ASK ABOUT UPCOMING EVENTS. SUPPORT THEIR PROJECTS. BE FRIENDLY. GOOD LUCK.

[Fred Hatchett]

Tillenium 01! Consider your ways. If they have to keep secrets, what are they hiding. You are entitled to know al the facts, secrets included. If you are a Christian, my advice is to leave the Greek system alone.

[Kat]

Tillenium 01! You can have them both. I am proud to say that I am a Sister in Christ and a Sister of Alpha Kappa Alpha.

[pink bunny]

Kat is right you can be greek and christian.
Before i went to the AKA interest meeting i spoke with christian sorors both AKA and Delta, as well as the leaders in my church to get advice and they supported me 100%. Our sorority was founded with christian morals in mind and high ethical standards first for our self then for mankind because you can't help others until you help yourself. Fred is just BITTER.

[ivy envy]

I first want to tell my sorors, THANK YOU, for once again handling a potentially "bad" reply.

If any intellgent person has done any research on our Sorority, they would know that we take pride in the fact that we provide "Service to Mankind"!!! As a matter of fact, we don't descriminate against anyone that we may provdide our services to.

If you are asking how this is related to living for Christ, being of service to others is a prime example of one of the ways God would want us to live, as brothers and sisters in Christ.

I am proud to be a member of Alpha Kappa Alpha, and especially a part of the family of Christ.

Skee-Wee and God Bless

[Elite Ivy]

Hi Tillennium01,
I don't normally post messages on the board. As a matter of fact this is my first time. Hi sorors!

After reading one of the comments, I felt as if it was time for me to post a message. I am an AKA and I am also a young lady who loves the Lord with all of my heart, mind, soul, and strength. I am very involved in my sorority chapter(I serve as the secretary) at my school AND I am still involved in my church. I was a Christian before I was an AKA and I know that my relationship with God only helps to strengthen the bond with many of my sorors. As a matter of fact, very seldom do I allow AKA to interfere with my church activities. I understand that being an AKA won't get me into the Kingdom, but in "serving mankind" am I not "serving as my brother's keeper."

My mother has been an AKA for well of 25 years and she taught me that GOD is first and then all other things will fall into place. Since you are still in high school, and know that you are interested in the "premier sorority," I would encourage you to become acquainted with an AKA in your hometown if that is possible. Check to make sure if you have teachers or ladies in your CHURCH who are members. If so, they can help guide you into the world of Pink and Green. Take the time to do a lot of independent research about the sorority. When you go off to college follow the advice that has already be given to you and remember that we are AKAdemically inclined women. Always remember: Seek ye first, the kingdom of GOD, and HIS righteous and all these things shall be added unto you. Good luck and you can e-mail me if you would like to talk further. Please forgive me for the long post.

[This message has been edited by Elite Ivy (edited January 12, 2000).]

[AKAtude]

Elite Ivy,

That was well put. Thank you for posting.

[LadyAKA]

Soror Elite Ivy, preach sister - PREACH!
Amen is all I have to say! I was born and raised in the church. AKA as a matter of fact is third in my life, the first is my love for the lord and his son.
Sorors stand strong! Out with the bad in with the good. Tillennium01, I am sure you will see the light and make the tight choice!

[Tillennium01]

I would like to thank all the Ladies of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc for responding.

I am involved in a teenage program that Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc sponsors for high school teenagers. This is my first yr being involved in it. So far I am loving it! I've been doing my research on Alpha Kappa Alpha for over 2 yrs now. I have gathered information up on my computer that I am planning to print out and learn.

I would be off to college in no time! I am taking in all the information I am receiving now! I'm sure it'll pay off in the long run. Again, thanks to all!

BTW, I ignore people like Fred! ;-)

Tillennium01

[LadyAKA]

That should be right choice http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

[Fred Hatchett]

Very religious elite ivy. What about all those sisters who serve other gods. They are your sisters, and that makes you unequally yoked. You can't knowingly disobey God's commandment and enter in His kingdom. You can't separate from those sisters unless you denounce. Do as you choose. I am just sowing and/or watering seeds. That is more powerful than putting a gun to someone's head. I could care less about AKA. My concern is for the souls in them. As for you Tillenium01, You can't ignore the Word of God. Everything you see or hear goes into your spirit. The battle is not about AKA. It's about the souls in them.

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[ivy envy]

Fred, please refrain from sending personal,emails to me.

I encourage everyone to ignore what he has been saying. Know yourself, and dont let him put things into your mind. We the members of Alpha Kappa Alpha as well as all of our friends are a group of intelligent women,and we will continue to serve mankind.

And I like so many others will continue to serve the lord..

Fred, Maybe you missed this part in the Bible "Judge Not...."

[Kat]

Sorors, I received an unpleasant email today at 3:47 p.m.. Even though I don't have any proof where it came from, I am willing to guess Fred Hatchett sent it. Fred, DO NOT email me anymore!!! I DO NOT need YOU to minister to me about GOD or my Sorority. My belief in God is real. I do not have to brag nor bost about my religion. I was always told that people who have to talk about how much religion they have are usually the ones you have to look out for. I do not down anyone religion. As far has my sisterhood, that is between me and my God. You had your time in the greek organization. There is no need to infringe on anyone else decision to enter into the greek organization. My final thought and last words about this topic is I know who I kneel down to at night, I know where my blessings come from, and I know that since I became a memeber of Alpha Kappa Alpha my blessings never have stopped nor have they become less. Sisterhood- helping others, giving others, being there for others....Just one way I have received many blessings.

[Fred Hatchett]

Ivy Envy,
You need to read the next 4 verses to understand what that means. I will keep doing what II Timothy 4:2 says, and evidently you have not read Isaiah 55:11. As long as I speak out against GLO's, God's Word will perform its purpose. One soul denouncing or never joining is more to me than 1 million who decide to join having been given the truth. That's right! 1 saved soul for every million I reach is enough for the angels to rejoice. I got the typical cowardly reply from my e-mail to you. NOTHING!

Kat,
It's my obligation to expose the works of darkness. I will do it wherever I choose, and wherever it is possible. I had my time, and now I am having another time. Religion is for losers. Christianity is for the victors. You do what you feel you must, because I am surely going to do what I must. The AKA ritual will soon be mine. When I get it, I WILL EXPOSE AKA to the GLORY of JESUS CHRIST.

[Lil' bit]

Sorors, let's not even dignify Fred Hatchett with a response. No need in paying him any mind. He has his views and obviously is trying to force it upon every one else. IGNORE THIS PERSON...

Skeeeeee weeeeeeee

[Fred Hatchett]

If Christians can be AKA's, then how do the "saved" AKA's explain ATLAS on their shield. A mythological god is another god. Any AKA that reads this, and claims Jesus as savior; I ask you to consider this.

fidelity, friendship, and sincerity

[ivy envy]

Sorors,

I just want to say hello to all, and let us remember to uphold our purpose.
I love you all and I hope that your year has been prosperous thus far, and I will continue to keep all of you in my prayers!

**For the last time, Fred, please refrain from even using my name, or anything in the likeness thereof...**

[Fred Hatchett]

The Bible college I attend challenged the greeks at NCSU. If their Christlike, prove it. I told the NCSU AKA's before what I have been saying on this AKA chat. They offered nothing Biblically substantial to uphold their claims that being a Christian and an AKA was godly. T. Barber was one of those persons.

[focus]

I would first like to apologize for the way a fellow Christian came at your organization. He may have good intentions but it was wrong to come at you all like that. I just wanted to clear up a few things that may help some people understand where Christians who decide not to join greek orgs. are coming from. This is from http://www.gotquestions.org/fraternity-s...

Its called:
Why Christians should not join worldly fraternities/sororities

I wanted to give some real concrete reasons from the bible about why Christians dont feel like they can be apart of sororities and fraternities.

The first question that needs to be asked is why a person would want to join a fraternity / sorority. Motives in Gods eyes are all important. (1 Samuel 16:7). Only you truly know what your motives are. Depending on your reasons, different issues come to the forefront. If one wants to join a fraternity/sorority because they have the best parties, the bible says that such a life should belong in one's unsaved past, not in the present life of a believer (1 Peter 4:3).

If one wants to join a fraternity/sorority because of a status symbol, it becomes an issue of pride. The Bible repeatedly encourages humility both in life and in the choice of one's companions (Romans 12:16; 1 Peter 5:5-7), even as Christ lived. The Bible mentions pride as a MAJOR sin and as something God hates (Proverbs 6:16-19; 8:13; 11:2; 16:18; Daniel 4:37; 1 Peter 5:5; 1 John 2:15-17).

A Christian's closest compansionship should be with fellow Christians, and not companionship based on some other external tie such as belonging to the same fraternity / sorority, having gone to the same school, coming from same race or social class, etc. (Galatians 3:28; 1 Corinthians 12:12-13; 12:24-26; Galatians 6:10; John 13:34-35). This is because who one has as his closet companions is a major issue in scripture whether they be fraternity brothers, roommates in a dorm, classmates, etc. Here are a few of Scripture's admonitions concerning this issue: "Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners" (1 Corinthians 15:33). The people around you can really hurt or help your walk with God and if your sorority/fraternity brothers aren't trying to live a Holy life then they can bring you down easier then you can bring them up. "He that walketh with wise men shall be wise: but a companion of fools shall be destroyed" (Proverbs 13:20). "I am a companion of them that fear thee, and of them that keep thy precepts" (Psalm 119:63).

I hope this helped everyone understand a little more. Please know that I am not trying to judge but instead trying to clear up some misconceptions between two groups of people with different beliefs. At the end of the day it comes down to whether you think your relationship with God is ok or is it being hindered by your involvement with a group of people.

Gos Bless

[soulfulremix]

:confused:

I mean... really. I was a freshman in High school at the time of this last post.

[f8nacn]

So what do you have to say about people serving GOD by serving their church/community (If you help the poor, you are lending to the Lord...Proverbs 19:17) and working in their fraternity/sorority of choice?

[focus]

Originally posted by f8nacn
So what do you have to say about people serving GOD by serving their church/community (If you help the poor, you are lending to the Lord...Proverbs 19:17) and working in their fraternity/sorority of choice?


You are right, service to others is very important. And I commend groups for making that a large part of what they do. I'm not judging other people, like I said, if you feel you walk/relationship with God is ok then thats great. Keep doing what you feel is right. I just wanted to give this thread an accurate perspective from Christians who have the desire to join greek orgs. but choose not to.

By what I have researched and read about being Christian and in a greek org. it is very possible to be living a Holy life and be in a greek org. You can join the org. for great unselfish reasons (like service), you can not participate in events that would sacrafice your morals (like wild parties), not be prideful, and you can choose as your closest companions those who are living Christ-like. But the reality is that its hard to do and be all those things when the people you call your brother/sister are almost exactly the opposite.

I have yet to find a greek person (on the collegiate level, I don't really come in contact with those other than college), that has been able to live a holy life because of the desire to fit in and be accepted by their brothers/sisters. But it is possible, someone just has to be strong enough to do it, and be an example for other possibly greek Christ-like people to follow.

[PerfectVerse06]

Originally posted by focus
I have yet to find a greek person (on the collegiate level, I don't really come in contact with those other than college), that has been able to live a holy life because of the desire to fit in and be accepted by their brothers/sisters. But it is possible, someone just has to be strong enough to do it, and be an example for other possibly greek Christ-like people to follow.

Apparently, you haven't been looking hard enough because you don't want your stance to be refuted. But I know several examples of members of BGLO's that serve their communities with their respective organizations and DON'T attend 'wild parties'. They still enjoy every minute of being in their respective organizations and don't fall into 'peer pressure' because as members they are strong-minded and already know who they are. They did not join an organization to form an identity for themselves, they were already aware of the person they were BEFORE becoming members. If they weren't the partying type before, they weren't the partying type after.

If you are willing to compromise the behaviors and activities that make you feel most comfortable for the sake of being a member of a fraternity or sorority, maybe you need to wait before you pursue membership. The orgs don't make it's members, the members make their org.

[mulattogyrl]

Wasn't this thread like 6 years old? Just an observation.

[focus]

Originally posted by PerfectVerse06
Apparently, you haven't been looking hard enough because you don't want your stance to be refuted. But I know several examples of members of BGLO's that serve their communities with their respective organizations and DON'T attend 'wild parties'.
If you are willing to compromise the behaviors and activities that make you feel most comfortable for the sake of being a member of a fraternity or sorority, maybe you need to wait before you pursue membership. The orgs don't make it's members, the members make their org.

Thats great, but you don't have to be on the defensive. I don't know every greek person in the world and I am sure there are a lot that are living for Christ. And if you are one of them then I encourage you to continue to be a great example to others. I was just merely trying to tell the thread why those who have already decided not to join for Christian reasons chose not to join.

But one thing I do have a question about. How is that you can say that "orgs don't make its members the members make its org," when in the state I live in, its an unwritten requirment to "be made" in order to get acceptance among the members of those greek organizations? And if you are not "made" (which I have witnessed on a few occasions) you get out-casted by other greek orgs and even members of your own group.

Its just a question, feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally posted by mulattogyrl
Wasn't this thread like 6 years old? Just an observation.

6.42 years old. Not that anyone's counting (apparently;) )

[PerfectVerse06]

Originally posted by focus
Thats great, but you don't have to be on the defensive. I don't know every greek person in the world and I am sure there are a lot that are living for Christ. And if you are one of them then I encourage you to continue to be a great example to others. I was just merely trying to tell the thread why those who have already decided not to join for Christian reasons chose not to join.

But one thing I do have a question about. How is that you can say that "orgs don't make its members the members make its org," when in the state I live in, its an unwritten requirment to "be made" in order to get acceptance among the members of those greek organizations? And if you are not "made" (which I have witnessed on a few occasions) you get out-casted by other greek orgs and even members of your own group.

Its just a question, feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

If people have opposing views on something, then yes we're going to be on different sides defending what we believe, correct? That's the only way I'm getting defensive on this, any other definition of the word is incorrect in this sense.

I didn't say that you knew every member of a GLO in the world, but you talked as though a college aged Christian who is able to refrain from attending 'wild parties' while being active in a fraternity or sorority is like a Unicorn, some kind of mythological creature. And I wanted to tell you that they do exist and they are happy with the decisions they have made.

And when I said an organization doesn't make a person, the person makes the organization I meant that gaining membership is not your one-way ticket to an identity. If you are joining for status and to feel like you are somebody than maybe you need to re-evaluate things. You have to be strong within yourself so that you may present the best you to the organization in which you want to be a member. If you know who you are and what you stand for before becoming a member, you are better able to serve others and uphold the goals of that organization. Your Financial Card is NOT your Identification Card.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally posted by PerfectVerse06
you talked as though a college aged Christian who is able to refrain from attending 'wild parties' while being active in fraternity or sorority is like a Unicorn, some kind of mythological creature.

Hey, I think this is going in my signature....I like this quote!

[PerfectVerse06]

Originally posted by AlphaFrog
Hey, I think this is going in my signature....I like this quote!

YAAAAAAY!!! You like me....you really like me!

http://www.websitegoodies.com/smilies/gfx/love0063.gif



http://www.freesmileys.org/emo/talk011.gif

But I forgot to put the word 'a' before 'fraternity', so you might want to change it in your siggy LOL!

[teena]

PV06, I want a new siggy too. :cool:

[AlphaFrog]

Originally posted by PerfectVerse06

http://www.freesmileys.org/emo/talk011.gif

But I forgot to put the word 'a' before 'fraternity', so you might want to change it in your siggy LOL! ]

Will do. I copied directly..but since I have permission from the author to make changes...;)

[focus]

Originally posted by PerfectVerse06


I didn't say that you knew every member of a GLO in the world, but you talked as though a college aged Christian who is able to refrain from attending 'wild parties' while being active in a fraternity or sorority is like a Unicorn, some kind of mythological creature. And I wanted to tell you that they do exist and they are happy with the decisions they have made.

If you are joining for status and to feel like you are somebody than maybe you need to re-evaluate things. You have to be strong within yourself so that you may present the best you to the organization in which you want to be a member.

I am sorry if I came off as if there being greek and living Christ-like is unheard of. All I can tell you is from what I have observed. I was positive before that they do exist, I just had never met a person in college who has.

It's great that you have a great head on your shoulder and you can make a wise decision about why you should join an org. but most of the women I know (and I stress I), on the collegiate level, don't go about decision making that way.

But Im getting off track. I only want to present the view of Christ-like people who chose not to join greek orgs. I can't speak for everyone else.

[f8nacn]

Originally posted by focus
I have yet to find a greek person (on the collegiate level, I don't really come in contact with those other than college), that has been able to live a holy life because of the desire to fit in and be accepted by their brothers/sisters. But it is possible, someone just has to be strong enough to do it, and be an example for other possibly greek Christ-like people to follow.

Not to be demeaning or anything but it seems that you live in a very small world...

[PerfectVerse06]

Originally posted by teena
PV06, I want a new siggy too. :cool:

http://www.planetgarth.com/forums/images/smilies/y_thinking.gif

Hmmmm....I'll have to come up with some words of wisdom that have been passed down to me over the years or something. I'll run a few by you LOL!


originally posted by focus
I am sorry if I came off as if there being greek and living Christ-like is unheard of. All I can tell you is from what I have observed. I was positive before that they do exist, I just had never met a person in college who has.

It's great that you have a great head on your shoulder and you can make a wise decision about why you should join an org. but most of the women I know (and I stress I), on the collegiate level, don't go about decision making that way.

But Im getting off track. I only want to present the view of Christ-like people who chose not to join greek orgs. I can't speak for everyone else.

No need to apologize! This is the way people are SUPPOSED to dialogue!

It's cool that we both can see each other's points, and respectfully co-exist on GC.

:)

It's just as hard for ANY college student, regardless of Greek affiliation or lack thereof, whose a Christian to remain steadfast in his or her faith with all the temptation and peer pressure that's out there. And this is the time that a Christian should focus on establishing an even closer relationship with God, and praying for the strength to avoid giving into those negative things.

If one's relationship with God is strong enough, one can become a member of a GLO and the 'wild parties' (which are only a small piece of the Greek experience) won't affect them.

[focus]

Originally posted by f8nacn
Not to be demeaning or anything but it seems that you live in a very small world...

If you call division one small, maybe so. But as Homecoming Queen and Student Body President, I guess I can say that I know a great deal of people. But you weren't being demeaning, that could very well be the case.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally posted by f8nacn
Not to be demeaning or anything but it seems that you live in a very small world...

It's a small world after all, It's a small world after all, It's a small world after all, It's a small, small world.

Sorry, Flashback to EuroDisney2001.

[mulattogyrl]

Originally posted by focus
If you call division one small, maybe so. But as Homecoming Queen and Student Body President, I guess I can say that I know a great deal of people. But you weren't being demeaning, that could very well be the case.

If one wants to join a fraternity/sorority because of a status symbol, it becomes an issue of pride. The Bible repeatedly encourages humility both in life and in the choice of one's companions (Romans 12:16; 1 Peter 5:5-7), even as Christ lived. The Bible mentions pride as a MAJOR sin and as something God hates (Proverbs 6:16-19; 8:13; 11:2; 16:18; Daniel 4:37; 1 Peter 5:5; 1 John 2:15-17).


So, what made you run for Homecoming Queen if not pride?

[btb87]

Originally posted by AlphaFrog
It's a small world after all, It's a small world after all, It's a small world after all, It's a small, small world.
Doggone it, now I'm gonna be hearing that for the rest of the day.:(

[focus]

Originally posted by mulattogyrl
So, what made you run for Homecoming Queen if not pride?

I didn't run for Homecomign Queen. At my school you can't run for it. Its done on merit, academic, etc and is set up more like a Leadership Court then a Homecoming one to reward campus leaders. But no, Im not perfect if thats what you are trying to imply, no one is, and I can probabley list out all of my flaws. But thats besides that point. I don't want to make it in to a personal thing. Just intellectual people presenting intellectual ideas.

[mulattogyrl]

Originally posted by focus
I didn't run for Homecomign Queen. At my school you can't run for it. Its done on merit, academic, etc and is set up more like a Leadership Court then a Homecoming one to reward campus leaders. But no, Im not perfect if thats what you are trying to imply, no one is, and I can probabley list out all of my flaws. But thats besides that point. I don't want to make it in to a personal thing. Just intellectual people presenting intellectual ideas.

I'm not implying anything. The mere fact that you mentioned that you held positions at all shows pride, a big sin according to you. That's all I'm saying. And you're right, none of us are perfect. :)

[focus]

Originally posted by mulattogyrl
I'm not implying anything. The mere fact that you mentioned that you held positions at all shows pride, a big sin according to you. That's all I'm saying.

Currection: its a big sin according to the bible, not me, and what you are quoting comes from another source that I copied the link to. But in response to that, I did not mention it to brag about what I have done if thats what you mean, it was to show that my view of people in the world may be a bit bigger than one may think. But again, its not about me, or my flaws, its about the issue of why some Christ-like people feel like that can't join certain greek orgs. And it has nothing to do with being a perfect person or not, so I hope you don't think I am saying that being in a greek org means your not perfect or capable of trying to live a "perfect life" because thats not what I tried to imply.

[teena]

^^I dont get you've overall point. What is the overall question?

[focus]

Originally posted by teena
^^I dont get you've overall point. What is the overall question?

Well the point was to clear up some misconceptions about why some Christ-like people feel like they can't join certain greek orgs.

[f8nacn]

So...are you just lifting up views of "other" Christians or yourself as well...are you pursuing membership into a sorority or are you trying to dissuade people from joining fraternities/sororities?

[AKA_Monet]

^^^Do not worry about what is on other people's plates, worry about your own...

Fred Hatchett was warned about his intimidation of several greeks on this entire GC board, hence the board owner's decision to "ban" him from any disruptive and unuseful discussion on GC...

From what I understand Fred has been on other boards acking a fool for what he his... He preaches "the love of Christ" but practices "the intolerance of others". That is not the Christ nor the Christianity I believe in or that I want to follow. He promulagates and spews out "chapter and verse of the Christian Bible", but shows no "love or compassion leading through the love of Christ". He calls himself to "rebuke sinners who are in BGLO's", but forsakes them when they need him the most, never uplifting people toward the eyes of God, as if he can...

That to me is a false prophet and you know what the Christian Bible says about that...

"The demons know about Christ, and shudder in fear..."

Read another way, the Devil knows the Christian Bible and all religious texts backwards and forwards and quote each them in their native languages chapter and verse...

The fact is it does not matter who knows more about the Bible or any religious text better than another one. It matters more with what you do with that knowledge and how it brings yours relationship closer to God as shown through what you do for your fellow man, as a Christian, your worshipfulness as a Jew, and your devotion as a Muslim...

Basically Hindis believe in a different god than Christians, Jews and Muslims... And Buddhists do not believe in a Supreme Being concept like other religions do.

The question remains, would I call all other folks who are not Christians evil? Pagans? Heathens? That is what the Christian Bible calls us to do...

Hence what Fred Hatchett is saying in his religious studies debasing Fraternities and Sororities, specifically BGLO's. His entire church is devoted to taking down BGLO's to its entirety...

I suggest that Rev. Hatchett be very careful with whom he wishes to destroy...

[f8nacn]

Originally posted by AKA_Monet
^^^Do not worry about what is on other people's plates, worry about your own...

Hence what Fred Hatchett is saying in his religious studies debasing Fraternities and Sororities, specifically BGLO's. His entire church is devoted to taking down BGLO's to its entirety...



I believe the first statement was directed toward me, and with that I will leave that alone. FOCUS...no need to answer. I respect you for what you are doing and believe I have already stated that on another thread in this forum. Be Blessed and Stay Encouraged in your Pursuit to Pleasing God in all that You Do. May the seeds that you've planted return a harvest unto you 100-fold in the name of Jesus. Amen.

There are definitely fanatics in every religion/demonation, sect, that's why it is important to be girded and stand firm in whatever it is that you believe so that when people attack/criticize, you know beyond a shadow of a doubt, already, what it is that you believe.

[AKA_Monet]

Originally posted by f8nacn
I believe the first statement was directed toward me, and with that I will leave that alone. FOCUS...no need to answer. I respect you for what you are doing and believe I have already stated that on another thread in this forum. Be Blessed and Stay Encouraged in your Pursuit to Pleasing God in all that You Do. May the seeds that you've planted return a harvest unto you 100-fold in the name of Jesus. Amen.

There are definitely fanatics in every religion/demonation, sect, that's why it is important to be girded and stand firm in whatever it is that you believe so that when people attack/criticize, you know beyond a shadow of a doubt, already, what it is that you believe.

You posted before I got done... I should have used the quote feature...

Quite "jumpy" are we??? ;) T'ain't that skeerioussss, yet... :cool:

[f8nacn]

Originally posted by AKA_Monet
Nah soror, you posted before I got done... I should have used the quote feature...

Quite "jumpy" are we??? ;) T'ain't that skeerioussss, yet... :cool:

I am not a member of Alpha Kappa Alpha...I am a sisterfriend

[Marie]

Originally posted by soulfulremix
:confused:

I mean... really. I was a freshman in High school at the time of this last post.


Off topic, but wow time flies. I was a senior in high school when this thread originally began, and now I'm out of college for 2 years. YAY! I have measurable accomplishments in that time frame. Ok, back to the discussion.

[focus]

Originally posted by f8nacn
So...are you just lifting up views of "other" Christians or yourself as well...are you pursuing membership into a sorority or are you trying to dissuade people from joining fraternities/sororities?

Im not trying to dissuade anyone. Again, I just wanted to give the thread some insight as to why some Christ-like people feel like that can't join greek orgs.

[ladygreek]

Originally posted by focus
Im not trying to dissuade anyone. Again, I just wanted to give the thread some insight as to why some Christ-like people feel like that can't join greek orgs.
And the bottom line is that is okay. We have plenty of Christ-like, Allah-like, Buddha-like, etc. people who feel they can do both. None of us are hurting for members, so it's all good.

[preciousjeni]

Originally posted by focus
I would first like to apologize for the way a fellow Christian came at your organization. He may have good intentions but it was wrong to come at you all like that. I just wanted to clear up a few things that may help some people understand where Christians who decide not to join greek orgs. are coming from. This is from http://www.gotquestions.org/fraternity-s...

Its called:
Why Christians should not join worldly fraternities/sororities

I wanted to give some real concrete reasons from the bible about why Christians dont feel like they can be apart of sororities and fraternities.

The first question that needs to be asked is why a person would want to join a fraternity / sorority. Motives in Gods eyes are all important. (1 Samuel 16:7). Only you truly know what your motives are. Depending on your reasons, different issues come to the forefront. If one wants to join a fraternity/sorority because they have the best parties, the bible says that such a life should belong in one's unsaved past, not in the present life of a believer (1 Peter 4:3).

If one wants to join a fraternity/sorority because of a status symbol, it becomes an issue of pride. The Bible repeatedly encourages humility both in life and in the choice of one's companions (Romans 12:16; 1 Peter 5:5-7), even as Christ lived. The Bible mentions pride as a MAJOR sin and as something God hates (Proverbs 6:16-19; 8:13; 11:2; 16:18; Daniel 4:37; 1 Peter 5:5; 1 John 2:15-17).

A Christian's closest compansionship should be with fellow Christians, and not companionship based on some other external tie such as belonging to the same fraternity / sorority, having gone to the same school, coming from same race or social class, etc. (Galatians 3:28; 1 Corinthians 12:12-13; 12:24-26; Galatians 6:10; John 13:34-35). This is because who one has as his closet companions is a major issue in scripture whether they be fraternity brothers, roommates in a dorm, classmates, etc. Here are a few of Scripture's admonitions concerning this issue: "Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners" (1 Corinthians 15:33). The people around you can really hurt or help your walk with God and if your sorority/fraternity brothers aren't trying to live a Holy life then they can bring you down easier then you can bring them up. "He that walketh with wise men shall be wise: but a companion of fools shall be destroyed" (Proverbs 13:20). "I am a companion of them that fear thee, and of them that keep thy precepts" (Psalm 119:63).

I hope this helped everyone understand a little more. Please know that I am not trying to judge but instead trying to clear up some misconceptions between two groups of people with different beliefs. At the end of the day it comes down to whether you think your relationship with God is ok or is it being hindered by your involvement with a group of people.

Gos Bless The proof-texters are out in force these days on GC!

[Lady of Pearl]

For myself wanting to join a sorority for me was for community service; I never led a wild life style before or after joining a sorority and count many of my Sorors as sisters in Christ also. It is possible to be Christian and a Sorority member. It's about one's priorities-I also prayed that God's will would be done in my life as it related to my desire to be a part of my sorority. I have come across more Sorors who are Christian and some who are also Ministers that are a part of my sorority.

[PositivelyAKA]

I remember getting numerous comments from non-greek christians who felt being in a frat or sorority was somehow "wrong". But i say this, if you are doing positive things like serving others through an organization, it does not matter if it is a greek letter organization or the urban league. Many who claim to be "christians" are not even living Christ-like and should stick to minding their own business....

[Lady of Pearl]

Not every one who says Lord Lord will enter into heaven be- those claiming to be Christ like Christians or the true authentic Chriristian. The ultimate authority to separate the wheat from the tares is God alone. We all must be about our Father's Business

[DSTdimepiece]

AMEN!!!

[f8nacn]

Originally posted by Lady of Pearl
Not every one who says Lord Lord will enter into heaven be- those claiming to be Christ like Christians or the true authentic Chriristian. The ultimate authority to separate the wheat from the tares is God alone. We all must be about our Father's Business

Exactly so we can't place ourselves in a position to judge...

[Gods Ivy]

I would just like to say that you can be a Christian and be an AKA too. As long as you talked it over with God and He told you that was the right decision, then go for it. I for one know my entire purpose in pledging was to change the image of the way my sorority was viewed on my campus and to make a difference in the world and I could not have gone through half of what I experienced without the Lord carrying me. Just to inform and educate-the principles of AKA are surrounded around spirituality and not Greek mythology so God is in us automatically. AKA is defined by the Greek alphabet letters and that is about as Greek as it gets. When our beautiful sorority was founded, we could not vote and were not viewed as important to society because we were women. We fought for change and equality as women and are still fighting. You are not successful without God and you never will be without God. We are only vessels and He ensures our breath comes out of our mouths and blood pump through our veins. We would not have had a sorority to be founded by young college women with a mission to change the way the world viewed us as women if we were Greek worshipers. Our sorority was not founded to wear colors, be pretty, or worship a Greek God or Goddess (man that was far fetched and if you were a part of us you would know that, so I can't fault you too much for your ignorance) but to bring about change and unity among women.