Attention all aspirants (especially NPHC)

[Senusret I]

This is what you DO NOT DO if you are rejected:

YOU DO NOT WRITE AN EDITORIAL IN THE CAMPUS NEWSPAPER!!!!! (http://media.www.asuherald.com/media/storage/paper898/news/2010/03/11/Opinion/Sisterhood.Devalued.By.Sororities-3889341.shtml)

Elle Greenberry of Arkansas State University writes:



You would think that with all the experience, knowledge and sacrifice one's parent has done for the action or cause of the sorority that I'd be a shoe -in. One would think good grades, a record of community services stretching back into elementary school would make me one of the more obvious of candidates to be rushed.

Apparently, my destiny to be an AKA is not without challenges such as those Jason and his Argonauts faced. Just as the gods and Medea helped him, only time and divine intervention will lead the way to my sorority fate.

I attended all the meetings and informational gatherings. I was given inaccurate information regarding the submission of necessary materials. This misinformation led to my not getting a nomination and becoming a legacy in my sorority of choice.




Click the link above for more tripe.

[littleowl33]

On top of sounding bitter and whiny, she's a pretty terrible writer. Here are a few gems that made me go "Whaaa..?"


"The colors of AKA, pink and green, have been in my wardrobe in some faction of silhouette, design, custom made dress or from off the rack for as long as I can remember."

"You would think that with all the experience, knowledge and sacrifice one's parent has done for the action or cause of the sorority that I'd be a shoe -in."

"There were words of encouragement from my brother. His criticism of the Greeks, meant as comfort went along the lines that he was "glad I'd not be joining the cult and that my day to be a snob would have to wait." He actually has harsher things to say about all Greek organizations not only on this campus but those of national prominence citing class, privilege and snobbery. He is nicest to this one due to the number of women who belong to it from our family."

"I'm finding that perhaps some lines that are drawn to keep someone out include the same line I'm trying to cross."

"Is it all about turning papers in on a date despite the date being vague- dates that forced an individual get everything needed done now or never- one time only?"

"So are sororities a social class privilege designed only for those deemed the fairest of them all bent on being better than this sorority or that one? Is it as pervasive as Spike Lee points out in his cult classic film, School Daze 1988, where we all need to wake up from the delusion that it is not?"

"I mean, would other legacies' or founding members' children face this type of hardship?"
(Yes, they would. They do.)

[APhiQuetieACE]

wow

[aopirose]

I just don't know what to say.

[Prettyface08]

I see why she wasn't a 'shoe in'. I'm glad that her mother being a 'a founding member of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority undergraduate chapter and also a founding member of the graduate chapter of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority in Blytheville' didn't help her. They dodged a bullet.

[LikeASista]

Her quote: "I believe that the conflicts and problems in life are not what define us - what matters is how we respond to them." Exactly.

And she didn't respond to her rejection very well at all. And her writing style is brutal. :eek: I can tell this article was emotionally charged and written in haste. She is trying to 'get back at' my sorority for not accepting her by, if you will, 'putting them on blast'. All she's done is dig a deeper hole for herself. Thank God she didn't post her picture up, too. ~tsk, tsk~ :rolleyes:

[Prettyface08]

Her quote: "I believe that the conflicts and problems in life are not what define us - what matters is how we respond to them." Exactly.

And she didn't respond to her rejection very well at all. And her writing style is brutal. :eek: I can tell this article was emotionally charged and written in haste. She is trying to 'get back at' my sorority for not accepting her by, if you will, 'putting them on blast'. All she's done is dig a deeper hole for herself. Thank God she didn't post her picture up, too. ~tsk, tsk~ :rolleyes:

LOL Well...maybe she didn't post her pic, but she posted her mother's AKA resume ('founding' member of the undergrad chapter at whatever school and the Blytheville grad chapter) She's pretty much toast.

[AzTheta]

Uh-oh. *cringe* This is the type of "article" about which my dad said "write it and stick it in a drawer and look at it in a week." Then, after a week, I'd look at it, rewrite it, and stick it back in the drawer. After about a month, it just didn't matter and I'd moved on.

Very few people can write well after experiencing rejection. What is written just doesn't come across as anything other than sour grapes, all too frequently. And, in my experience, the feelings seldom (if ever fit) the facts of the situation.

Unfortunately, this is Out In Public now and may have future repercussions for this young woman that she hasn't even considered. Some may be positive, others negative; who can say?

Her disappointment is palpable underneath all those cliches. For that, I'm sorry; it's a hard life lesson. Would that we were all spared from the heartaches, hard knocks, and blows of life; but then, what would our characters be?

[LatinaAlumna]

Sounds like she would have been a lousy member, since all she seems to do is highlight the accolades of her family members. I don't see any of her own accomplishments mentioned. I could see her saying, "I don't need to be at that early service event. I mean, my MOM has served enough for the both of us!"

When I saw the part about her mother being a founder of the chapter, I yelled out loud. I'm a chapter founder, and if my daughter EVER carried herself with this sense of entitlement, there would be a chancla flying across the room!

[Senusret I]

I don't know what a chancla is, but I'd pay good money to see that. LOL

[Prettyface08]

Sounds like she would have been a lousy member, since all she seems to do is highlight the accolades of her family members. I don't see any of her own accomplishments mentioned. I could see her saying, "I don't need to be at that early service event. I mean, my MOM has served enough for the both of us!"

When I saw the part about her mother being a founder of the chapter, I yelled out loud. I'm a chapter founder, and if my daughter EVER carried herself with this sense of entitlement, there would be a chancla flying across the room!

Exactly. This is why her mother shares some of the blame, in my opinion.

[Phrozen1ne]

I can see why she was rejected. Her mother's accomplishments are hers alone. Maybe she should stop trying to ride her mother like Sea Biscuit into the organization and try getting in on her own merit. Legacies with a sense of entitlement...shidddd! I can't honor that BS. She deserves to get played for being so desperate.

[LatinaAlumna]

I don't know what a chancla is, but I'd pay good money to see that. LOL

A sandal, but really, could be any shoe within reach. A flying chancla is to be expected by (Latino) children of any age when they do or say something really, really stupid. I highly encourage mothers of all backgrounds to use it when necessary! :p

[Senusret I]

HA!!!!! I love it and will incorporate it into my vocab.

[Munchkin03]

Ooooh, she is tacky and stoopid!

I Googled her and found some other trifling articles she had written.

[tld221]

I don't know what a chancla is, but I'd pay good money to see that. LOL

A sandal, but really, could be any shoe within reach. A flying chancla is to be expected by (Latino) children of any age when they do or say something really, really stupid. I highly encourage mothers of all backgrounds to use it when necessary! :p

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=chancletas

Havent heard that in a hot minute! My cousin is 1/2 PR and my uncle used to go IN on him when we were younger. He still flinches whenever my aunt reaches for her slippers LOL

[tld221]

OK i could barely skim it, it was written so poorly. She really thought she was jon blaze writing this funky little piece.


P.S. never heard of Alpha Phi Psi. Who wants to enlighten me?

[LikeASista]

... and now we know she has a Facebook page. :D

[Gusteau]

P.S. never heard of Alpha Phi Psi. Who wants to enlighten me?

Google failed me on Alpha Phi Psi - I'm guessing someone (either the author or someone on the paper's staff) meant to say Omega Psi Phi.

[Psi U MC Vito]

A sandal, but really, could be any shoe within reach. A flying chancla is to be expected by (Latino) children of any age when they do or say something really, really stupid. I highly encourage mothers of all backgrounds to use it when necessary! :p
Oh God, not the boomerang chanclita. That thing follows you. lol.

[tld221]

Google failed me on Alpha Phi Psi - I'm guessing someone (either the author or someone on the paper's staff) meant to say Omega Psi Phi.

i knew it - there was sarcasm in that inquiry.


i feel like this girl is BFF with the "they can't do this to meeeeee im a freshnannnnnnn" poster.

[Gusteau]

i knew it - there was sarcasm in that inquiry.


I thought you might have after I posted; someone needs to get on that sarcasm font ASAP...

[LadySunshine]

Why does she remind me of that trifling Mona from As the Sands Burn?

[AOEforme]

i feel like this girl is BFF with the "they can't do this to meeeeee im a freshnannnnnnn" poster.
:D That was the first thing I thought of when I read this.

I am also wondering if horrible grammar is a co-morbidity of a sense of entitlement...

Did anyone read the comments at the bottom? They're all "Great article! Well-written and total correct!"

Now, I'm not privy to NPHC happenings (nor am I pretending I am), but didn't she just toss the first aspirant rule out the window, that of discretion?

[Puryear]

Lastly, a good friend once told me that, "he's drinking from a well he ain't dig." I think it's time you stop riding the glory of your mother's acheivements and start diggin' a well of your own.

Sigh....You're mom and Greek family members should have taught you about discretion...and the finer points of grammar.

The readers comments sum it up in a nutshell....

[33girl]

I really could have stopped at the words "sacrifice" and "parent." My question is what her mom thought once she saw this.

[LatinaAlumna]

Oh God, not the boomerang chanclita. That thing follows you. lol.

You know it! The chancla is worse than the belt. With the belt, you know you're going to get smacked in the behind. With the chancla, you might lose an eye if you're not agile!

But back to OP: Even if she is angry, you would think she would have thought twice about publishing a piece like this given that so many of her family members are in the sorority she wanted to be part of. Did she not think about offending them, and/or embarrassing them?

[LXA SE285]

Even if she is angry, you would think she would have thought twice about publishing a piece like this given that so many of her family members are in the sorority she wanted to be part of.

And you would think the editor would have had better news judgment than to publish such self-indulgent, badly written bilge.

[ree-Xi]

... and now we know she has a Facebook page. :D

Did you see her SGA Campaign Page? She's majoring in communications, bless her dear heart.

"Im FRom Olive Branch Ms. i attend StAte and im majoring in communications i held class offices in h.s. im Runnin for SGA freshman Senator and would like your vote Once you have elected me and even now i mant everyone to feel free to talk to me about whatever especially if it is a concern the feel needs to be addressed in SGA im always here to listen and hear your oppinons about stAte so plz Vote 4 me on 9-16-08 a VOte 4 Me is A vote 4 YOu"

[Psi U MC Vito]

Wow, finally read the piece. So Essentially she should have been selected just because she was the daughter of a member. Don't let details like filling out the proper paperwork get in the way.

[Ooh La La]

Lovely ladies of AKA, I'm going to go ahead and say that you made the right choice in rejecting this woman. I have no idea exactly how the process works, but congrats for not giving in to her horrific sense of entitlement.

"Apparently, my destiny to be an AKA is not without challenges such as those Jason and his Argonauts faced. Just as the gods and Medea helped him, only time and divine intervention will lead the way to my sorority fate."

Also... WHAT??!?! Comparing your quest to be in a sorority to those other Greeks is just nuts. Nuts, I say.

[nikki1920]

A founding member of a chapter? Don't even get me started. Good luck, young lady, on your quest to become an AKA.

ree-Xi: I dont believe you. lol! NOPE.

[I.A.S.K.]

"Is it all about turning papers in on a date despite the date being vague- dates that forced an individual get everything needed done now or never- one time only?"

UM. YES! That's why they're called DEADLINES! lol. So she's mad because she didnt turn her papers in on time? GTFOHWTBS.

#Fail.

[dreamseeker]

Sounds like she would have been a lousy member, since all she seems to do is highlight the accolades of her family members. I don't see any of her own accomplishments mentioned. I could see her saying, "I don't need to be at that early service event. I mean, my MOM has served enough for the both of us!"

When I saw the part about her mother being a founder of the chapter, I yelled out loud. I'm a chapter founder, and if my daughter EVER carried herself with this sense of entitlement, there would be a chancla flying across the room!

lmao!

man what a load of crap. i felt so angry reading that horrible article. so i just skimmed.

i'm surprised that no one noticed how she called KAPsi the brother fraternity of APhiA.

This is my fave comment, for the simplicity AND the irony of it all:

Discretion is Key

posted 3/15/10 @ 9:36 AM CST

Sigh....You're mom and Greek family members should have taught you about discretion...and the finer points of grammar.

:D

[tld221]

Now, I'm not privy to NPHC happenings (nor am I pretending I am), but didn't she just toss the first aspirant rule out the window, that of discretion?

She threw it out the window, and watched it get hit by a bus! hot mess!

Why does she remind me of that trifling Mona from As the Sands Burn?

YES! good call!

[Psi U MC Vito]

ANd didn't she call APhiA the brother fraternity of AKA?

[LatinaAlumna]

If this Greenberry was a member of GC, and her letter was a thread, they would both be "Trainwreck of the Year, 2010"...

[Munchkin03]

lmao!



Sigh....You're mom and Greek family members should have taught you about discretion...and the finer points of grammar.

:D

I found this admonishment about grammar to be especially ironic since the comment writer failed to show that he/she knew the difference between "you're" and "your." College edjumacations, people!

[NinjaPoodle]

LOL at all of this but did you read the comments?

From Tristan:
Your opinion is well taken and duly noted. However, I must admit that you sound like a bitter and rejected young woman. Yet, I applaud your efforts to defy the status quo and publish the thoughts that represent all those who didn't make it. Maybem, ohpefully, this will be a positive in the long run, or maybe you'll never be an AKA while an undergrad at AState.

What are excuses? Other than tools of incompetence, what else are excuses?(apparently your mother didn't tell you)

You say that you were misinformed, but as a leader in the greek community in another state, the story is the same. There is a reason why we don't give away membership into our BGLO's. Those who work hard and show earnest effort are typically smiled upon, so long as your actions aren't outrageous nor present liablility. Needless to say, "vague" deadlines don't exist. Your preparedness is on you, and no one else. So then, I ask, how prepared were you for this opportunity?

Just know that publicly bashing a greek organization for your own, personal short-comings is not reputable. It matters not how much "pink and green" you have in your closet and because your are a leagacy doesn't make you exempt from the rules of a difficult process. Everyone is held to the same high standard and someone from a socially lesser background as yourslef could earn membership if they present themselves worthy. Your name is worthless if you don't work toward your ambitions. Where I'm from, "exceptions are made for exceptional people," "and slack is for slackers."

Lastly, a good friend once told me that, "he's drinking from a well he ain't dig." I think it's time you stop riding the glory of your mother's acheivements and start diggin' a well of your own.

Peace and Blessings

[33girl]

Maybe she should stop trying to ride her mother like Sea Biscuit

33girl likes this.

[agzg]

Well I guess we know how this girl deals with rejectment.

[NinjaPoodle]

Well I guess we know how this girl deals with rejectment.

Does her mother? :p

[Still BLUTANG]

wow!

i need everbody from this school, article author AND persons leaving comments need to never write again.

i literally shut my laptop when i read the comment "but she's SO PRETTY to be so dark"

its like a runaway train mowing down a tractor trailer. Mess. wow.

[KSUViolet06]

Entitlement FAIl.

I love it.

[NinjaPoodle]

Entitlement FAIl.

I love it.

LOL!

[agzg]

Does her mother? :p

Well I'm guessing her mother had a sex change and became her father, considering she wrote "My mother, an alumnus of Astate..."

[kddani]

This is like a letter you write to some guy right after he breaks up with you. She forgot the part about either ripping it up immediately afterward or letting it sit aside for a week before rereading and then sending.

I can't believe it was published- not just because of the subject matter, but because of how terrible it was to try to read!

[ZTA72]

I can't believe it was published- not just because of the subject matter, but because of how terrible it was to try to read!

I tried twice to make some sense out of that mess, not to mention the comments. All I can say is that it is a great example of what not to do after ANY type of life disappointment.

[Low C Sharp]

Lovely ladies of AKA, I'm going to go ahead and say that you made the right choice in rejecting this woman.

I'm sitting 10 feet away from an AKA and thinking the same thing. The late paperwork saved them the effort of rejecting her on her merits.

I can only imagine the conversations in chapter meetings this week. Oh, to be a fly on the wall.
________
Prilosec Settlement Update (http://www.classactionsettlements.org/lawsuit/prilosec/)

[IlovemyAKA]

Sigh....You're mom and Greek family members should have taught you about discretion...and the finer points of grammar. ^^^

lol...really?

ETA: Munchkin beat me to it.

[IlovemyAKA]

LMBO!!! The sorors @ Eta Upsilon made her mad!!! haha

[AKA_Monet]

Not saying I ever did this...But sometimes paperwork can be lost...:cool:

[ThetaPrincess24]

i feel like this girl is BFF with the "they can't do this to meeeeee im a freshnannnnnnn" poster.

LOL!!

[NinjaPoodle]

Well I'm guessing her mother had a sex change and became her father, considering she wrote "My mother, an alumnus of Astate..."

hee hee..

[CDancer20]

I am not a member of a greek-org, but I will say that this part of her message caught me the most:

"I attended all the meetings and informational gatherings. I was given inaccurate information regarding the submission of necessary materials. This misinformation led to my not getting a nomination and becoming a legacy in my sorority of choice."

I will go out on a limb and say that I am sure the ladies of this sorority DID NOT single her out to give the wrong information. As far as I have read/been told, and ladies of the sorority can comment on this, all information about submitting documents, etc is given at the rush. How is that THIS one person heard the wrong information, but other people were able to get their things in??

Given that she did not submit her paperwork on time/correctly, what makes her think that the sorority would make an exception for HER?!?!? They have rules in place for a reason or else they would have to make the same exception for every woman that comes through "and receives the incorrect information." Regardless, of what your mom, sister, cousin, aunt did, you have to stand on your own two feet amongst everyone else.


This can also be taken on a professional level. If you are applying for a scholarship or looking for a job or what have you, you must submit your paperwork on time just like everyone else. As harsh as this may sound, many people could care less about excuses.

[KSUViolet06]

I am not a member of a greek-org, but I will say that this part of her message caught me the most:

"I attended all the meetings and informational gatherings. I was given inaccurate information regarding the submission of necessary materials. This misinformation led to my not getting a nomination and becoming a legacy in my sorority of choice."

I will go out on a limb and say that I am sure the ladies of this sorority DID NOT single her out to give the wrong information. As far as I have read/been told, and ladies of the sorority can comment on this, all information about submitting documents, etc is given at the rush. How is that THIS one person heard the wrong information, but other people were able to get their things in??

Given that she did not submit her paperwork on time/correctly, what makes her think that the sorority would make an exception for HER?!?!? They have rules in place for a reason or else they would have to make the same exception for every woman that comes through "and receives the incorrect information." Regardless, of what your mom, sister, cousin, aunt did, you have to stand on your own two feet amongst everyone else.


This can also be taken on a professional level. If you are applying for a scholarship or looking for a job or what have you, you must submit your paperwork on time just like everyone else. As harsh as this may sound, many people could care less about excuses.

This is Entitlement 101.

I didn't do X on time, but I deserve an exception because *insert lame excuse here*

[jdrama]

......

.....

What's Alpha Phi Psi? I Googled it and found....


nothing.

excerpt from the chick " my uncles who belong to Alpha Phi Psi and those in Alpha Phi Alpha, the brother frat to Alpha Kappa Alpha. Does this even happen in your family? "

Did she mean Omega Psi Phi? Who's the editor of this paper? FIRED!


ETA:
ASU AKA
posted 3/19/10 @ 12:07 PM CST

Being a member of the particular chapter of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc., I will not say that your chances of becoming a member are over, but your DESIRE to become part of the organization is questioned. I do not want to attack you, but I do want to lay out some facts: When you came to the informational, you showed up LATE. Not only did you show up late, but you came in jeans and a t-shirt to a BUSINESS CASUAL event. On top of that, you sat in the back, slouched in a chair, with your arms folded. Now tell me commenters, would you think that this young lady had even the smallest interest in this organization, or was she maybe FORCED (legacy) to attend to uphold her mother's standards. No, we had no clue that she was legacy, because she made no effort to mingle with anyone there. She simply LEFT once the information was given. Once again, I will not say that your chances are ruined, but if you would like a chance, we would like to see that you actually care. Even though I find this article a bit offensive, I will say that its the first sign that you actually care!

[CDancer20]

What's Alpha Phi Psi? I Googled it and found....


nothing.

LOL. One of the first things I did too after reading it was go straight to Google that fraternity.



ETA:
ASU AKA
posted 3/19/10 @ 12:07 PM CST

Being a member of the particular chapter of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc., I will not say that your chances of becoming a member are over, but your DESIRE to become part of the organization is questioned. I do not want to attack you, but I do want to lay out some facts: When you came to the informational, you showed up LATE. Not only did you show up late, but you came in jeans and a t-shirt to a BUSINESS CASUAL event. On top of that, you sat in the back, slouched in a chair, with your arms folded. Now tell me commenters, would you think that this young lady had even the smallest interest in this organization, or was she maybe FORCED (legacy) to attend to uphold her mother's standards. No, we had no clue that she was legacy, because she made no effort to mingle with anyone there. She simply LEFT once the information was given. Once again, I will not say that your chances are ruined, but if you would like a chance, we would like to see that you actually care. Even though I find this article a bit offensive, I will say that its the first sign that you actually care!

This about sums it all up. Given that this is a real member of that AKA chapter, that is enough reason right there that she did not get chosen. It appears like she thought that by being legacy of such a "famous" AKA, that things would just be handed to her on a silver platter and that the sorority just HAD to have her.

[xomanadaxo]

I know I'm way out of my lane here, but reading this made me smile on behalf of the women of AKA. I know next to nothing about NPHC recruitment, but I have to admit...I always appreciate when people who are this entitled get what's coming to them :)

And maybe it's just me, but did the whole "legacy of a famous founding sister" thing remind anyone else of that Lifetime movie "Sorority Wars?" :p

[Angelicqt716]

I personally think her chances are ruined. Who knows what chapterthisarticle will end up at. I think the only way she'll get in is if her mom pulls strings or something. Jmo

[IlovemyAKA]

......



ETA:
ASU AKA
posted 3/19/10 @ 12:07 PM CST

Being a member of the particular chapter of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc., I will not say that your chances of becoming a member are over, but your DESIRE to become part of the organization is questioned. I do not want to attack you, but I do want to lay out some facts: When you came to the informational, you showed up LATE. Not only did you show up late, but you came in jeans and a t-shirt to a BUSINESS CASUAL event. On top of that, you sat in the back, slouched in a chair, with your arms folded. Now tell me commenters, would you think that this young lady had even the smallest interest in this organization, or was she maybe FORCED (legacy) to attend to uphold her mother's standards. No, we had no clue that she was legacy, because she made no effort to mingle with anyone there. She simply LEFT once the information was given. Once again, I will not say that your chances are ruined, but if you would like a chance, we would like to see that you actually care. Even though I find this article a bit offensive, I will say that its the first sign that you actually care!

I love it!!!

[IlovemyAKA]

Nicole:
"She's probably, well she is, the darkest AKA on campus! You should see her, BUT she's REALLY pretty to be so dark!"
*SMH* - all I can say is venture out of the early 1900's and join us in the new millenium.

Also, thanks for letting the e-world know that your loose-lipped BFF member of Delta at 'the University of Central Arkansas in Conway' (lol) did not get the memo on discretion. I hope this is shown to her chapter so they can address this problem accordingly.

Oh snap! lol--that's my alma mater

[Fatal1913]

wow.. looks like she just made sure she will NEVER be accepted by that chapter now! LOL dumb azz! If she would have shut up, should could have at least tried again. SMH

[Prettyface08]

wow.. looks like she just made sure she will NEVER be accepted by that chapter now! LOL dumb azz! If she would have shut up, should could have at least tried again. SMH


Eh, I think her chances were ruined from the gate....some things just can not be said on a public website for the world to see and for you to never be able to erase.

[Fatal1913]

Eh, I think her chances were ruined from the gate....some things just can not be said on a public website for the world to see and for you to never be able to erase.


She clearly wasnt thinking straight when she wrote that... this will follow her!

[Little32]

Eh, I think her chances were ruined from the gate....some things just can not be said on a public website for the world to see and for you to never be able to erase.

I need the youth to understand this lesson and back away from the keyboard.

[Fatal1913]

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1322381675


*snickering*

[Senusret I]

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1322381675


*snickering*

As my mom would say.....wwwwwhoa.

[KSUViolet06]

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1322381675

*snickering*

Ruh Roh Shaggy

/Scooby

[tld221]

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1322381675


*snickering*

oh come on. not this f***ery.

http://www.ripten.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/head-in-hands-3-copy.jpg

[Fatal1913]

oh come on. not this f***ery.

http://www.ripten.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/head-in-hands-3-copy.jpg


LOL

[jdrama]

.... Just saying...

I'm not GREEK or anything but... it said she graduated HS in 2009... it's only 2010... now... don't you have to have what would amount to Sophomore credits to even try to be in a NPHC sorority/fraternity... so... she's like a Freshman.

So she effed it up before her time?...

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!! Priceless!

[Gusteau]

.... Just saying...

I'm not GREEK or anything but... it said she graduated HS in 2009... it's only 2010... now... don't you have to have what would amount to Sophomore credits to even try to be in a NPHC sorority/fraternity... so... she's like a Freshman.

So she effed it up before her time?...

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!! Priceless!

This isn't my lane, but many students come to college today with credits from AP and IB courses, so while she may be a freshman by year, she could be "older" by credit. Whether or not this is relevant to NPHC pursuit, I don't know.

/swerve

[CDancer20]

.... Just saying...

I'm not GREEK or anything but... it said she graduated HS in 2009... it's only 2010... now... don't you have to have what would amount to Sophomore credits to even try to be in a NPHC sorority/fraternity... so... she's like a Freshman.

So she effed it up before her time?...

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!! Priceless!


Like the last poster, not my lane either by according to AKA national website:
"Completion of at least one successful grading period (or a defined by the university) as a full-time student at the institution where application is made;"

Different schools/different chapters rules will vary, but in accordance with what the last poster said and this from the website, it would seem that she would be eligible her second semester there. AKA ladies feel free to chime in.

[jdrama]

Gust-That's true

CDancer-Oh word?!! I stand corrected.

Either way, she STILL effed it up!

[LatinaAlumna]

AKA ladies feel free to chime in.

:eek:

[Senusret I]

.... Just saying...

I'm not GREEK or anything but...

This is where you should have stopped. :)

In addition to what Gusteau said about credits, at least four of the nine definitely allow second semester freshmen to pledge.

[DrPhil]

When will CDancer and the other supposed nonGreeks just shut up and silently read?

[Fatal1913]

This isn't my lane, but many students come to college today with credits from AP and IB courses, so while she may be a freshman by year, she could be "older" by credit. Whether or not this is relevant to NPHC pursuit, I don't know.

/swerve

most NPHC orgs require you to have anywhere from 9 to 24 hrs at THAT institution.. no transfer hrs are accepted.. most of the time, freshmans are not eligible, but in same cases it could be possible.. but atleast not until their 2nd semester for sure

[Fatal1913]

This is where you should have stopped. :)

In addition to what Gusteau said about credits, at least four of the nine definitely allow second semester freshmen to pledge.


LOL.. agreed!

[Prettyface08]

When will CDancer and the other supposed nonGreeks just shut up and silently read?

LOL!! She's quoting the AKA national website and stuff. I was thinking "Oh wow."

[Gusteau]

most NPHC orgs require you to have anywhere from 9 to 24 hrs at THAT institution.. no transfer hrs are accepted.. most of the time, freshmans are not eligible, but in same cases it could be possible.. but atleast not until their 2nd semester for sure

Thanks for clarifying!

[dreamseeker]

When will CDancer and the other supposed nonGreeks just shut up and silently read?

we're in the era of ppl doing the most. i think they're trying to get integrated here on GC but are trying too hard.

[CDancer20]

When will CDancer and the other supposed nonGreeks just shut up and silently read?


Just because a person is not a greek DOES NOT mean that they aren't entitled to an opinion on a subject greek-related or that they aren't smart enough to go read stuff that answers other people's question. I didn't just pull anything out of thin air about what I said, and I also said that people who know differently are free to correct me. Just because you are greek does not mean you know EVERYTHING and are so much better than I am to answer a question that I can obviously find the answer to on my own.

[KSUViolet06]

Just because a person is not a greek DOES NOT mean that they aren't entitled to an opinion on a subject greek-related or that they aren't smart enough to go read stuff that answers other people's question. I didn't just pull anything out of thin air about what I said, and I also said that people who know differently are free to correct me. Just because you are greek does not mean you know EVERYTHING and are so much better than I am to answer a question that I can obviously find the answer to on my own.

I think the issue comes with a non-Greek quoting sorority policy. If anyone is going to quote policy for a particular sorority, it should be a member. For all you or I know, AKA could have some super secret special policy not viewable on the public side of its website that is different from what you were reading. You never know.

[DrPhil]

...a person is not a greek....

Shut up sometimes.

[KSUViolet06]

Shut up sometimes.

Why does she have to be Type Almighty Phil?

That's why people are posting big long threads in the Delta forum about not wanting to join. Because you are all meanies. lol. So there.

[DrPhil]

I think the issue comes with a non-Greek quoting sorority policy. If anyone is going to quote policy for a particular sorority, it should be a member. For all you or I know, AKA could have some super secret special policy not viewable on the public side of its website that is different from what you were reading. You never know.


It's not just a non-Greek or nonmember quoting sorority policy. The nonGreeks who come to Greekchat and insist on participating in the Greekdom threads also need to know when to shut up. CDancer has been advised to shut up before.

[DrPhil]

Why does she have to be Type Almighty Phil?

Because she couldn't shut up even after typing about "her sister." :)

[Senusret I]

Just because a person is not a greek DOES NOT mean that they aren't entitled to an opinion on a subject greek-related or that they aren't smart enough to go read stuff that answers other people's question. I didn't just pull anything out of thin air about what I said, and I also said that people who know differently are free to correct me. Just because you are greek does not mean you know EVERYTHING and are so much better than I am to answer a question that I can obviously find the answer to on my own.

Would you go up into the Pope's house and speak on Catholicism when nobody asked you? No. You sit quietly in the parlor.

[CDancer20]

I think the issue comes with a non-Greek quoting sorority policy. If anyone is going to quote policy for a particular sorority, it should be a member. For all you or I know, AKA could have some super secret special policy not viewable on the public side of its website that is different from what you were reading. You never know.



True it may be. Yet that's why I said that this is what is posted on their website. Its viewable to anyone that takes 10 secs to go there. I don't think that AKA is the type of sorority that would go around putting up false information on their website to falsely guide interested people. While yes these may be the minimum and it WILL vary from chapter to chapter, school to school, it's still what is there.

[CDancer20]

Would you go up into the Pope's house and speak on Catholicism when nobody asked you? No. You sit quietly in the parlor.


No one asked a particular person a question. If someone asked a question that is clearly printed on say a pamphlet I was holding or the bible or a hymn that I could point them to, then yes I would.

[Senusret I]

No one asked a particular person a question. If someone asked a question that is clearly printed on say a pamphlet I was holding or the bible or a hymn that I could point them to, then yes I would.

Which is why you won't be invited to the Vatican.

[KSUViolet06]

I think any person pursuing Greek membership (NPHC or otherwise) could benefit from learning to show some humility and realizing that they have something to learn.

[Barbie's_Rush]

I think any person pursuing Greek membership (NPHC or otherwise) could benefit from learning to show some humility and realizing that they have something to learn.

^^^This^^^

I would also guess that many organizations (NPC, NPHC or otherwise) only publicly post general minimum membership requirements on their national/international web sites. A chapter's or university's requirements could be much more stringent. If you are not a member of a specific group, you have no idea what their membership selection criteria are.

[dreamseeker]

CDancer, what everyone is trying to say is that you need to sit quietly and just observe. No one is saying you're incapable of answering questions. No one here in this thread thinks they're better because they're greek. The thing is that when it comes to information regarding greek life, it is best left to those that are members. If you have to say "ABCs/XYZs please feel free to chime in", then it's probably best for you to not even bother. Do you like for non-family members to speak about your family affairs and then be like "CDancer please feel free to chime in"? They can handle their own, and as a newbie to GC and as a non-greek, it just makes it seem like you're trying too hard.

...hence the name type almighty. ;)

[jdrama]

Lesson...Learned.http://i.cnn.net/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0706/gallery.mlb.photos.0618-0624/images/APTOPIX-Phillies-Indians-Ba.jpg

[Senusret I]

I like good-humored aspirants. :)

[Prettyface08]

Just because a person is not a greek DOES NOT mean that they aren't entitled to an opinion on a subject greek-related or that they aren't smart enough to go read stuff that answers other people's question. I didn't just pull anything out of thin air about what I said, and I also said that people who know differently are free to correct me. Just because you are greek does not mean you know EVERYTHING and are so much better than I am to answer a question that I can obviously find the answer to on my own.

But I do. Refrain from answering anything AKA related until you are a member and know more than me. Just because you're entitled to an opinion, doesn't mean you should share it. That is all.

Sincerely,
An AKA
A.K.A
Ms. Know-it-ALL

[Prettyface08]

True it may be. Yet that's why I said that this is what is posted on their website. Its viewable to anyone that takes 10 secs to go there. I don't think that AKA is the type of sorority that would go around putting up false information on their website to falsely guide interested people. While yes these may be the minimum and it WILL vary from chapter to chapter, school to school, it's still what is there.

We get it. Stop acting so familiar. No...really.

Quoting another AKA:
"The best of business
in this line of business
is to mind your business.
If you don't have any business
then make it your business
to leave AKA business ALONE."

[Prettyface08]

I think any person pursuing Greek membership (NPHC or otherwise) could benefit from learning to show some humility and realizing that they have something to learn.

Apparently you missed the memo that membership is a free for all.

[Little32]

We get it. Stop acting so familiar. No...really.

Quoting another AKA:
"The best of business
in this line of business
is to mind your business.
If you don't have any business
then make it your business
to leave AKA business ALONE."

But I do. Refrain from answering anything AKA related until you are a member and know more than me. Just because you're entitled to an opinion, doesn't mean you should share it. That is all.

Sincerely,
An AKA
A.K.A
Ms. Know-it-ALL

*tee-hee*

[Fatal1913]

LOL..

*Remembering the days when I was on GC before I crossed 8 yrs ago*

I got checked REAL quick... I learned real fast to politely shut the fkk up!

[Prettyface08]

LOL..

*Remembering the days when I was on GC before I crossed 8 yrs ago*

I got checked REAL quick... I learned real fast to politely shut the fkk up!

Aaaccctuallly, she's not learning this so quickly. She's still struggling with this concept.

[Fatal1913]

LOL. I just lurked until I crossed.

ETA: See my siggy, I created a whole new handle after I crossed.. I wanted them to know I had crossed and in what chapter! Ah.. to be a Neo..

Thanks Ladygreek! LOL

[DrPhil]

No one here in this thread thinks they're better because they're greek.

Some of us were always better and Greekdom added to that.

ETA: The funny thing is that Type Almighty is not only claiming to be a nonGreek but he/she is claiming that his/her SISTER is the aspirant. Not him/herself. That's even funniererererererer....

[Senusret I]

LOL @ this entire thread.

It is also where I first learned of La Chancla.