DELTA UPSILON IN THE PHILIPPINES

[duphil]

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[duphil]

any du`s from north america feel free to visit the philippines chapter of delta upsilon...we do have 3 active chapter here in the philippines the silliman university chapter, negros oriental state university chapter and the dmc chapter....our website is www.geocities.com/duphil2004/deltaupsilon.html

fell free to visit the site!!!!hail du!!!!

[rufio]

this makes me proud to be a DU and pinoy

[duphil]

thanks for the complement brother!!!

we are hoping if you could tell us from what chapter of delta upsilon do u belong...we are very much interested in hearing responses from our brother of north america!!!!

hail delta upsilon!!!

[rufio]

arizona state university. i'f i ever go back home, i'm going to visit you guys

[duphil]

arizona state university. i'f i ever go back home, i'm going to visit you guys

brother honestly am one of the alumni of delta upsilon...we had establish delta upsilon las june 22, 2004 ...the first chapter is the silliman university chapter...we had built delta upsilon through research on the internet and as well sending emails at the international head...but honestly the international head won`t response to our emails until now...and delta upsilon has already three active chapters..one from dipolog city and the other two chapters are here in dumaguete city the silliman university and the negros oriental state university....brother we really need your support , kindly tell to other chapters of north america that delta upsilon is really growing in the philippines...am hoping if you could send me tapes or cd`s regarding the songs of delta upsilon....do u have pledge pins there? cause here were just using the laminated crest..

hope you could help us and tell the other du`s that delta upsilon is really growing here!!!

[duphil]

Just got the E Mail Update congratulations to Arizona State for chartering, best wishes to the interest group at Johns Hopkins and best wishes to the staff and volunteers on the presentation at North Florida.
Does anyone have any news on the Florida State colony or expansion at Rowan or UNC-Wilmington.
It looks like Mr. Maguire , Mr. Messick Mr. Porter and staff are really ramping up to grow.

Glenn Adams

brother am from the philippines and we do hope you will acknowledge also the presence of delta upsilon here in the philippines...actualy am the alumni secretary of the dumaguete city chapter here in the philippines..

if you wish to see some backgrounds of our chapter feel free to visit our site:
www.geocities.com/duphil2004/deltaupsilon.html

[duphil]

arizona state university. i'f i ever go back home, i'm going to visit you guys

brother pls help us to include our chapter in the list of chapters in the www.deltau.org , pls help us to be included on the list brother ..delta upsilon in the philippines will be very grateful if the international head will inlclude our chapter on the list.
thanks and hail delta upsilon!!

[rufio]

have you guys chartered yet, or you still a colony. I dont think you'll appear on the website unless your chapters charter. Also i'll do what i can to spread your name around, but i only keep contact with 3 other chapters. There isnt really much i can do outside of my chapter. You guys should try and visit the states and stay with a few chapters and get to know them. Also, try emailing chapters to introduce yourselves and try to attend LI. I know this might be hard since you are all the way over in PI. oh, and we do have pledge pins. but before my chapter had pledge pins, we had dog tags. try contacting HQ about getting more things for your chapter.

dikaia

[duphil]

yeah we still havent chatertered yet....i really keep sending emails to the international but all the emails i receive before was from the alumni of miami and alberta chapters....thanks a lot for spreading the philippines chapter of delta upsilon...we really need pledge pins brother...hope you could send us some of your pledge pins and maybe you could tell me how your acceptance of new members being done cause here in the philippines we just follow what have been stated in the constitution and by laws.....

actualy this month is the 105th founders day of the silliman university, the school wherein delta upsilon first recognized...our brothers here are very busy in soliciting funds for the booth making contest...

brother , we just hope we could have some support from your chapter or any form of help that could contribute to the on coming booth making contest...regarding pledge pins we hope you could send some of those cause as of now we are using the laminated pledge pins...it`s really hard for us to purchase there since we are an offshore chapter...

hope you could help us!!!GOD BLESS YOU ALL!! and btw, where in the philippines are you living?

[rufio]

my family is in bacolod and in manilla. were a very small house and my pledge class was the only class to use pledge pins. so we have six total. you just have to keep emailing head quarters to get them to send you the things essential to your chapter.

[duphil]

thanks brother , so thats the best i can do now to keep on sending emails to the international headquarter. actualy theres a new chapter at manila especifically at the philippine christian university chapter , if ever you`ll be back in the philippines pls visit the silliman university chapter of delta upsilon.
we do hope you could bring any foriegn du`s there...
thanks for the advice and hail delta upsilon...we do have four active chapters in the philippines now...we do hope the international head would be graterful that we had establish delta upsilon in the philippines....

[duphil]

helloo
from where are u ? how are u doin now??hows your chapter there??
by the way we are du from the philippines..

[duphil]

good day to all delta upsilon in north america!!! we do hope you will know and acknowledge the presence of delta upsilon here in the philippines...we wuold be glad if you`ll visit the website...here is it:

http://www.geocities.com/duphil2004/deltaupsilon.html

feel free to email me or our chapters email addd. we would be happy if more delta upsilon will email to us...

[duphil]

how are u doin now brother!!!

we do hope that u had inform the international that delta upsilon in the philippines has already four active chapters:

1. NEGROS ORIENTAL STATE UNIVERSITY CHAPTER
2. SILLIMAN UNIVERSITY CHAPTER
3. DIPOLOG MEDICAL CENTER COLLEGE FOUNDATION CHAPTER
4. PHILIPPINE CHRISTIAN UNIVERSITY CHAPTER

pls inform other chapters of delta upsilon in the united states.thanks and GOD BLESS!!!!

[rufio]

did IHQ come down and colonize you guys?

[dussf2005]

Hello Brothers....

Greetings from the Delta Upsilon Society of San Felipe.

Long live the Delta Upsilon!!!

[DUKyleXY]

I am wondering if your chapter was initiated by IHQ. If so, please reply with date of chapter initiation and initiators.
Thank you,
Kyle Solberg
Iowa State '10

[duphil]

GOOD DAY TO ALL THE DELTA UPSILON IN NORTH AMERICA!!!

JUST WANT TO INFORM U THAT THE PHILIPPINES DELTA UPSILON IS VERY MUCH ACTIVE UNTIL NOW,AM ONE OF THE ALUMNI OF THE DU IN THE PHILIPPINES,THERE ARE 5 ACTIVE CHAPTERS NOW IN THE PHILIPPINES,THE SILLIMAN UNIVERSITY CHAPTER,NORSU CHAPTER,PCU CHAPTER,DIPOLOG CHAPTER AND PUP CHAPTER.

THE OFFICIAL WEBSITE OF THE PHILIPPINE DELTA UPSILON ARE:
1. http://www.geocities.com/duphil2004/deltaupsilon.html
2. http://dunegor.webng.com/

these are the two websites that we are currently using now....

[rufio]

we went over this last year. you are not recognized by IHQ.

[duphil]

THE DELTA UPSILON OF THE PHILIPPINES HAS NOW 7 CHAPTERS IN THE PHILIPPINES.

These active chapters are:
1.Negros Oriental State University Chapter
2.Silliman Univerity Chapter
website:
www.webng.com/dunegor.com
http://www.geocities.com/duphil2004/deltaupsilon.html


3.Dipolog Medical Center College Foundation Inc. Chapter
4.Philippine Christian University Chapter
5.Polytechnic University of the Philippines Chapter
6.Rizal Technological University Chapter
7.Colegio De San Juan de Letran Chapter

As what the executive director Justin Kirk had told us we will be approve or disapprove on expanding our chapters this coming october 23 or 24.We just hope will be approve.If anybody who wants to accept or acknowledge the presence of delta upsilon in the philippines pls feel free to send us reply here.

ONLY SILLIMAN UNIVERSITY AND NEGROS ORIENTAL STATE UNIVERSITY HAVE FINISHED THERE WEBSITES BUT THEY JUST MADE IT INTO ONE WEBSITE ONLY FOR THEY ARE IN THE SAME LOCATION IN DUMAGUETE,PHILIPPINES.THE NUMBER 3 CHAPTER IS IN DIPOLOG CITY,PHILIPPINES AND THE REST 4 CHAPTERS IS IN MANILA ,PHILIPPINES WHEREIN THIS PLACE AROUND FRATERNITIES ARE WIDESPREAD...TOO MUCH FRATERNITIES PRESENT IN MANILA AND NOW DELTA UPSILON CONQUERS 4 CHAPTERS HERE...

[duphil]

feel free to visit the additional website of delta upsilon philippines in PCU chapter or the PHILIPPINE CHRISTIAN UNIVERSITY:
www.pcuduonell.webs.com

[duphil]

GREETINGS!!!

THE 3 OFFICIAL WEBSITES OF DELTA UPSILON IN THE PHILIPPINES ARE AS FOLLOWS:

1.http://dunegor.webng.com/
2.http://www.geocities.com/duphil2004/deltaupsilon.html
3.http://pcuduonell.webs.com/


for comments and suggestions pls feel free to send an email to me:
roelzunega@yahoo.com


Roel Zunega Jr.
ALUMNI PRESS RELATION OFFICER
+96656-528-6726

[duphil]

feel free to visit the 3 websites of the delta upsilon philippines!!hail delta upsilon !!!!1834!!!!

1.www.webng.com/dunegor
2.www.pcuduonell.webs.com
3.http://www.geocities.com/duphil2004/deltaupsilon.html

any comments and suggestions feel to to email me:

roelzunega@yahoo.com
alumni P.R.O.
+96656-528-6726 (LOCATION: RIYADH,KSA)

[duphil]

we are really waiting for the decision tomorrow by the board of directors if ever we will be approve or not.if ever we will not be approve,as alumni to the delta upsilon in the Philippines wherein am working now in the midddle east,we will be sadden by the loast of our chapters.we already have 8 chapters and we do have 4 websites created by my fellow alumni and undergraduate brothers in the philippines.

the 4 websites are:
1.www.geocities.com/duphil2004/deltaupsilon.html
2.www.webng.com/dunegor
3.www.pcuduonell.webs.com
4.www.rtudu.webs.com

sometime its makes me sad when I post some thread here but no even one replied.its okey for us cause we all know that we are not yet recognized.

If ever we will be approve in behalf of the delta upsilon in the Philippines am hoping that you will welcome us to the brotherhood of delta upsilon.

[duphil]

WE ARE STILL WAITNG FOR THE RESULT OF OUR AFFILIATION AFTER THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING HAS DON.WE JUST HOPE WE WILL BE APPROVE .WE THE ALUMNI HAD ORDERED TO STOP THE RECRUITMENT NOT UNLESS WE WILL BE OFFCIALY RECOGNIZE.

HAIL DELTA UPSILON!

[duphil]

WE THE PHILIPPINE CHAPTER OF DELTA UPSILON TRULY BELIEVE THAT HOPE DELTA UPSILON HAS NO BOUNDERIES AND NO LIMITS UPON CONQUERING A COLONY ,NO MATTER HOW FAR OUR LOCATION BUT PHILIPPINES HAS HUNDREDS OF FRATERNITIES AND THIS IS THE REASON WHY WE INTRODUCE DELTA UPSILON AND BRING IT INTO THE UNIVERSITIES IN THE PHILIPPINES CAUSE DELTA UPSILON IS A NON-SECRET FRATERNITY.

OUR LOYALTY AND LOVE TO DELTA UPSILON WASN`T ONLY FOR YEARS BUT FOR A LIFETIME!!!!

[duphil]

to all DU`s in NORTH AMERICA,

GREETINGS!!!!

WE ARE HOPING FROM YOUR SIDE IF YOU COULD HELP US ALSO TO BE A RECOGNIZE CHAPTER.ALTHOUGH WE HAVE RECIEVE EMAIL FROM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR JUSTIC KIRK SAYING THAT THE FINAL DETERMINATION OF OUR CHAPTERS PHILIPPINES WILL BE THIS COMING JANUARY.

For additional informations I included here some only of the international fraternities I remember which are present in the philippines including also of the delta upsilon:

DELTA UPSILON
US WEBSITE: www.deltau.org
PHILIPPINES WEBSITE: www.webng.com/dunegor
and the other one before http://www.geocities.com/duphil2004/deltaupsilon.html
www.pcuduonell.webs.com
www.rtudu.webs.com

ALPHA SIGMA PHI
1.US website:http://www.alphasigmaphi.org/
PHILIPPINES website:http://www.geocities.com/alphasigmaphi_pcu/main.html

ALPHA TAO OMEGA
2.US website:http://www.ato.org/
Philippines website:http://atophilippines.org/news.php

DEMOLAY INT`L
3.US WEBSITE:http://www.demolay.org/
Philippines website:http://demolayphilippines.org/

SIGMA ALPHA EPSILON
4.US website:http://www.sae.net/NETCOMMUNITY/Page.aspx?pid=183&srcid=-2
Philippines website :http://www.saephilippines.org/

ALPHA PHI OMEGA
5.US WEBSITE:http://www.apo.org/
PHILIPPINES WEBSITE:http://www.apo.org.ph/v1/

PHI BETA KAPPA
6.US WEBSITE: http://www.pbk.org/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Home3
PHILIPPINES WEBSITE: http://www.pbk-ph.cjb.net/

LOCAL FRATERNITIES
I also include some of the local fraternities in the philippines in order to inform that there are too much of fraternities registered in our country:

1.LAMBDA DELTA
http://lambdadeltaonline.coretechnique.com/alumni/index.html

2.MU SIGMA PHI
http://www.musigmaphi.com/

3.OMEGA PELTA KAPPA
http://peltans.page.tl/

4.LAMBDA KAPPA PHI
http://www.hslkp.org/

5.OMEGA RHO OMICRON
http://www.omegarhoomicron.co.nr/

6.GAMMA SIGMA
http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/gamma_sigma/

7.ALPHA KAPPA RHO
http://www.akp-usa.org/pn/

8.ALPHA PHI UPSILON
http://www.alphaphiupsilon.org/


HOPING THAT BY MEANS OF THIS YOU WILL KNOW ALSO HOW WIDESPREAD THE FRATERNITIES IN OUR COUNTRY...

[DUCKCITY]

Please stop writing in caps. It hurts my brain.
On another note: good luck to all of you guys!
What can we do to help you all?

[duphil]

Actually I`m working overseas now but still I worry with my brothers in the Philippines.I just want to ask if ever disapprove can we still carry the name Delta Upsilon?do u have any idea about colonization?

[duphil]

we do have 6 websites now and 3 of these were still to finished.

1.www.geogities.com/duphil2004/deltaupsilon.html
2.www.rtudu.webs.com (photos to be uploaded soon)
3.www.letrandu.webs.com (photos to be uploaded soon)
4.www.pupdu.webs.com (photos to be uploaded soon)
5.www.pcuduonell.webs.com
6.www.webng.dunegor.com

Delta Upsilon wasn`t only for college days but for a lifetime!!!!

[DUCKCITY]

you have my support. i live the message; the larger organization is a technical afterthought imho.

[duphil]

Actually ive been waiting for the reply of the executive director Justin Kirk until now regarding our expansion if we can still carry on the name of the fraternity if ever we will be disapprove.

Whats hurting on my part is that we do have 8 chapters now and all these chapters have members who are aiming for higher goals and dreams as part of the fraternity.I am hoping that the Board of Directors will have no bounderies on the Delta Upsilon`s expansion.

Please brother share this matter to other chapters so that they may also support us by just informing the IHQ that we may be acknowledge and be a recognize chapter.

Delta Upsilon wasn`t only for college days but for a lifetime!!!

[duphil]

We are happy that the executive director Justin Kirk had told us that we will go on what we have started for the last 4 years.Although there still an investigation but we are happy that the fraternity will still go on.

We just hope that there will be no disapproval regarding our expansion.

Thanks to the burning desire of my filipino brothers to become a DU man!!!

[duphil]

We have a new website created for the alumni of delta upsilon recently.we are hoping to post photos of alumni and as well as undergraduates of every chapters.

Here is the site: http://deltaupsilonalumni.wetpaint.com

thanks to other DU`s in North America who reply to our thread.Feel free to send email to the delta upsilon of the Philippines: duphil2004@yahoo.com

[questioner]

to all DU`s in NORTH AMERICA,

GREETINGS!!!!

WE ARE HOPING FROM YOUR SIDE IF YOU COULD HELP US ALSO TO BE A RECOGNIZE CHAPTER.ALTHOUGH WE HAVE RECIEVE EMAIL FROM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR JUSTIC KIRK SAYING THAT THE FINAL DETERMINATION OF OUR CHAPTERS PHILIPPINES WILL BE THIS COMING JANUARY.

For additional informations I included here some only of the international fraternities I remember which are present in the philippines including also of the delta upsilon:

DELTA UPSILON
US WEBSITE: www.deltau.org (http://www.deltau.org/)
PHILIPPINES WEBSITE: www.webng.com/dunegor (http://www.webng.com/dunegor)
and the other one before http://www.geocities.com/duphil2004/deltaupsilon.html
www.pcuduonell.webs.com (http://www.pcuduonell.webs.com/)
www.rtudu.webs.com (http://www.rtudu.webs.com/)

ALPHA SIGMA PHI
1.US website:http://www.alphasigmaphi.org/
PHILIPPINES website:http://www.geocities.com/alphasigmaphi_pcu/main.html

ALPHA TAO OMEGA
2.US website:http://www.ato.org/
Philippines website:http://atophilippines.org/news.php

DEMOLAY INT`L
3.US WEBSITE:http://www.demolay.org/
Philippines website:http://demolayphilippines.org/

SIGMA ALPHA EPSILON
4.US website:http://www.sae.net/NETCOMMUNITY/Page.aspx?pid=183&srcid=-2
Philippines website :http://www.saephilippines.org/

ALPHA PHI OMEGA
5.US WEBSITE:http://www.apo.org/
PHILIPPINES WEBSITE:http://www.apo.org.ph/v1/

PHI BETA KAPPA
6.US WEBSITE: http://www.pbk.org/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Home3
PHILIPPINES WEBSITE: http://www.pbk-ph.cjb.net/

...

ALPHA TAU OMEGA
2. Notice: Alpha Tau Omega does not have chapters or affiliated organizations in the Philippines or in any other countries or territories outside of the United States. Use of ALPHA TAU OMEGA or ATO by any organizations outside the United States is prohibited without written permission from ATO National Headquarters..

SIGMA ALPHA EPSILON
4. Sigma Alpha Epsilon Fraternity-Philippines has no legal/fraternal affiliation with Sigma Alpha Epsilon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigma_Alpha_Epsilon) of the United States.

PHI BETA KAPPA
6.Phi Beta Kappa of the Philippines has no legal relation with Phi Beta Kappa in the United States, and uses copyrighted materials such as the key without permission.

that is what i kniow

[questioner]

we went over this last year. you are not recognized by IHQ.


what is the final and official position of DU-USA over this issue at this point in time?

[duphil]

with regards to your question , we have been advice by the executive director Justin Kirk to continue to function and operate and sontinue the activities we have plan in the future.

by the way I am Engr. Fryle P. Lim , Vice president of the alumni in the Philippines.We have been advice already regarding this and for further questions and confirmation , you can talk about this to the executive director.

thanks and hail delta upsilon!!!

[duphil]

yeah you are right with that idea , I have also research on that one.I`m wrong also in posting some international fraternities.I agree with you.But others mention are existing in the Philippines.

I have found out also that they are not afilliated ,its just with the same greek name only.I apologize for this mistake.

With regards to your questions ,u can email me with this add duphil2004@yahoo.com and I can send you about the reply of the executive director Justin Kirk so that u will know whats the status of the delta upsilon in the Philippines.

thanks for your clarification regarding this.hail delta upsilon!!!

[SAEalumnus]

to all DU`s in NORTH AMERICA,

GREETINGS!!!!

WE ARE HOPING FROM YOUR SIDE IF YOU COULD HELP US ALSO TO BE A RECOGNIZE CHAPTER.ALTHOUGH WE HAVE RECIEVE EMAIL FROM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR JUSTIC KIRK SAYING THAT THE FINAL DETERMINATION OF OUR CHAPTERS PHILIPPINES WILL BE THIS COMING JANUARY.

For additional informations I included here some only of the international fraternities I remember which are present in the philippines including also of the delta upsilon:

<snip>
SIGMA ALPHA EPSILON
4.US website:http://www.sae.net/NETCOMMUNITY/Page.aspx?pid=183&srcid=-2
Philippines website :http://www.saephilippines.org/
</snip>

First of all, let me congratulate you on the portion of your above-quoted statement which I've highlighted in bold text. If you want to be considered an extension of an existing North American social fraternity, the only appropriate way is to petition the headquarters of the organization in question, which you've done. Best of luck to you in the completion of that process.

Second, and as indicated in the quote to follow, Sigma Alpha Epsilon Fraternity does not exist in any way, shape, or form in the Philippines. The group in the Philippines sharing our name is illegally making use of our copyrighted and trademarked material without the consent of our Fraternity. What they are doing is entirely illegal. For more information on that topic, please click here (http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/announcement.php?f=90).
ALPHA TAU OMEGA
2. Notice: Alpha Tau Omega does not have chapters or affiliated organizations in the Philippines or in any other countries or territories outside of the United States. Use of ALPHA TAU OMEGA or ATO by any organizations outside the United States is prohibited without written permission from ATO National Headquarters..

SIGMA ALPHA EPSILON
4. Sigma Alpha Epsilon Fraternity-Philippines has no legal/fraternal affiliation with Sigma Alpha Epsilon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigma_Alpha_Epsilon) of the United States.

PHI BETA KAPPA
6.Phi Beta Kappa of the Philippines has no legal relation with Phi Beta Kappa in the United States, and uses copyrighted materials such as the key without permission.

that is what i kniow
The description given by questioner regarding both ATO and Phi Beta Kappa also applies to the Philippine group making use of SAE's name.

duphil,

You are definitely on the right track by petitioning the national headquarters of Delta Upsilon Fraternity and I encourage you to maintain your efforts. However, I also strongly advise you to avoid the practices of certain Philippine groups of stealing and illegally using copyrighted and/or trademarked works belonging to other organizations without their permission. Doing so will work against your efforts in terms of getting such group to approve your chapter(s) as an extension of their organization.

Good luck!

[SAEalumnus]

Since Delta Upsilon Fraternity has not / not yet extended recognition to the chapters in the Philippines making use of their name, I have merged all threads in this forum into a single thread regarding the Philippine group so that the rest of the DU forum may be devoted to DU as it's known in North America.

[rufio]

Since Delta Upsilon Fraternity has not / not yet extended recognition to the chapters in the Philippines making use of their name, I have merged all threads in this forum into a single thread regarding the Philippine group so that the rest of the DU forum may be devoted to DU as it's known in North America.

thank god.

[questioner]

Since Delta Upsilon Fraternity has not / not yet extended recognition to the chapters in the Philippines making use of their name, I have merged all threads in this forum into a single thread regarding the Philippine group so that the rest of the DU forum may be devoted to DU as it's known in North America.


where?

[questioner]

where?

oh lol i think its this thread

[SAEalumnus]

oh lol i think its this thread
:) exactly

[SAEalumnus]

After doing some research on this issue, I discovered that Delta Upsilon's headquarters website lists (http://www.deltau.org/DU_Chapters.aspx) all active chapters, and colonies, and interest groups. Nowhere on this list is any mention made of any Philippine group at any level of recognition. I also discovered that all of the Philippine websites given in this thread display the coat of arms and other works of Delta Upsilon International Fraternity claiming the Philippine chapters to be a direct extension of the North American organization.

To the DUs here, do the Philippine groups have permission from Delta Upsilon to be using your copyrighted/trademarked works, or are they considered perps as far as DU is concerned?

[rufio]

To the DUs here, do the Philippine groups have permission from Delta Upsilon to be using your copyrighted/trademarked works, or are they considered perps as far as DU is concerned?

no they're operating outside of our permission. so they're perping. were just nice enough not to make a big deal out of it. it's the only downfall to being non-secret and having ritual and trademarks available on the internet; anyone can just pick up your letters and pretend.

[SAEalumnus]

Do you then wish for them to continue to post and promote their 'chapters' within the DU forum, or do you prefer they not be permitted to do so unless/until recognized by Delta Upsilon IHQ?

[DUKyleXY]

Don't worry about removing their access... They are being truthful in their attempts to affiliate. I am a National Undergraduate officer (UGAB Province 9) and our last Board of Directors meeting summary report mentioned:

"The discussion then moved to international expansion. As some of you may or may not know there are a few “Chapters” of Delta Upsilon working out in the Philippines. International has become more aware of this, and at the meeting we discussed whether this would be a worthwhile investment for Delta Upsilon. We felt as though having more than just North American chapters would be worthwhile, and voiced so to the Board."

So at least they are attempting to affiliate...better than most Philippines 'chapters.'

[rufio]

yeah, let them have their access. as long as they're not over spamming our board with the same thread, i dont have a problem.

ps, they need to stop PMing me.

[questioner]

Can you post here details about your national origins? I cannot find any site speaking about your national origins. I believe that these are certain details that need to be opened.

thanks

[DUKyleXY]

Which entity are you speaking to questioner?

The DU-North America origins can be found here: http://www.deltau.org/Default.aspx?action=Content&ContentId=89

As to the DU-Philippines, they have no 'national' origins, they do not consider themselves as a national organization, merely as chapters of Delta Upsilon International Fraternity. If you want info on their chapters, check out one of their websites (posted earlier many times)

Hope this helps...

[questioner]

Which entity are you speaking to questioner?

The DU-North America origins can be found here: http://www.deltau.org/Default.aspx?action=Content&ContentId=89

As to the DU-Philippines, they have no 'national' origins, they do not consider themselves as a national organization, merely as chapters of Delta Upsilon International Fraternity. If you want info on their chapters, check out one of their websites (posted earlier many times)

Hope this helps...

I'm pretty sure they have such a thing. Its impossible for one to exist like just Adam and Eve exploding on bamboo trunks appearing from nowhere... To some extent there is a national history in the Philippines to its inception and to its "Philippine Founding Father/s"... I may call it a "national" history; they may call it "local" history; but one thing is certain, that there such a thing exist for DU-phil.

also

Delta Upsilon Society of San Felipe

http://www.deltaupsilonsocietyofsanfelipe.org/DUSSSFLOGOCIRCULAR.gif
http://www.deltaupsilonsocietyofsanfelipe.org/index.htm
San Felipe, Zambales, Philippines



Is this related to the Philippine organization?

[DUKyleXY]

The two organizations are completely separate. DU-San Felipe is a separate organization with their own symbology, ritual, membership, etc.

[rufio]

hey, the DU society badge looks awfully familiar...

[questioner]

hey, the DU society badge looks awfully familiar...

thats what im thinkin, Sherlock. and I'm thinkin these two "Philippine" organizations might be related in some way.

[alumnisec]

www.deltaupsilonalumni.wetpaint.com (http://www.deltaupsilonalumni.wetpaint.com)




http://image.wetpaint.com/image/1/me4YQD5h0bFCd_6dBaicmw160974/GW495H338




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BRIEF HISTORY OF DELTA UPSILON IN THE PHILIPPINES


Early of 2004 seven group of men who were alumni of the Negros Oriental State University and former fratmen in thier college days have decided to established the Delta Upsilon International Fraternity in the Philippines because they believe that in this fraternity they have found what they are looking for,the true meaning of brotherhood. These alumni first discover delta upsilon through a wide research on the internet and study the expansion procedures and 20 things in bringing DU to the campus.But just to legalize the expansion they have decided to email the IHQ and other chapters in North America and fortunately one alumni from Alberta chapter and one also from Miami chapter had manage to reply the email.In thier email they have advice the seven pioneers to continue to send emails and send also the list of members and photos to the IHQ in order to be recognize.




Because of the response of the alumni from the 2 chapters of North America the pioneers were encourage to pursue the expansion of delta upsilon in the Philippines.Until such time that in June 22, 2004 the seven pioneers namely Benhur R. Patalinghug , Engr. Fryle P. Lim , Roel G. Zunega Jr, Albert A. Suelto , Laong-laan Polinar , Cerilo Ibanez , and Rico Bohol had conduct the ritual of intitiation and proclaimed the date as the official founding for Delta Upsilon in the Philippines.


The first university wherein the alumni first introduced Delta Upsilon was the Silliman University Chapter or the Mother Chapter and a number of students who come to joined and be a part of this non-secret fraternity.Indeed through this school Delta Upsilon had expanded to other colleges and universities by the efforts of the undergraduates who express thier love and loyalty to the fraternity.The next was the Negros Oriental State University which is founded the same date with the Silliman Chapter ,June 22, 2004.


On the other hand the efforts of the DU`s towards chapter expansions will also be acknowledge in the history and so it has been included here the brothers who are responsible in expanding these chapters.








THE CHAPTER EXPANSIONS


Dipolog City, Philippines

Dipolog Medical College Foundation Inc. Chapter - founded by DU Mico Estacio with the support of DU Mark Ramos

Metro Manila , Philippines

All chapters of Metro Manila were founded by DU Onell Baroy

Philippine Christian University Chapter - founded July 28 , 2006

Polytechnic University of the
Philippines - founded August 8, 2007

Rizal Technological University of the Philippines - founded November 29, 2007

Colegio de San Juan de Letran - founded recently



The alumni pioneers of the fraternity eventhough they are busy with thier jobs both local or overseas, but they still stay in contact with thier alumni and undergraduate brothers for they believe that Delta Upsilon wasn`t only for college days but for a lifelong brotherhood. Hail delta upsilon!!!!





http://image.wetpaint.com/image/2/6I_r0gu1zeZ65jSki3YYgQ16204/GW202H182 FROM : THE ALUMNI FOUNDING PIONEERS OF DELTA UPSILON IN THE PHILIPPINES

[DUKyleXY]

If you look closely, their text is on the arms of the Delta, not the Upsilon, also, they are fully recognized by IHQ as a legal entity without any copyright issues.

DU-Philippines is not the same org.

[SAEalumnus]

www.deltaupsilonalumni.wetpaint.com (http://www.deltaupsilonalumni.wetpaint.com)




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BRIEF HISTORY OF DELTA UPSILON IN THE PHILIPPINES

Early of 2004 seven group of men who were alumni of the Negros Oriental State University and former fratmen in thier college days have decided to established the Delta Upsilon International Fraternity in the Philippines because they believe that in this fraternity they have found what they are looking for,the true meaning of brotherhood. These alumni first discover delta upsilon through a wide research on the internet and study the expansion procedures and 20 things in bringing DU to the campus.But just to legalize the expansion they have decided to email the IHQ and other chapters in North America and fortunately one alumni from Alberta chapter and one also from Miami chapter had manage to reply the email.In thier email they have advice the seven pioneers to continue to send emails and send also the list of members and photos to the IHQ in order to be recognize.




Because of the response of the alumni from the 2 chapters of North America the pioneers were encourage to pursue the expansion of delta upsilon in the Philippines.Until such time that in June 22, 2004 the seven pioneers namely Benhur R. Patalinghug , Engr. Fryle P. Lim , Roel G. Zunega Jr, Albert A. Suelto , Laong-laan Polinar , Cerilo Ibanez , and Rico Bohol had conduct the ritual of intitiation and proclaimed the date as the official founding for Delta Upsilon in the Philippines.


The first university wherein the alumni first introduced Delta Upsilon was the Silliman University Chapter or the Mother Chapter and a number of students who come to joined and be a part of this non-secret fraternity.Indeed through this school Delta Upsilon had expanded to other colleges and universities by the efforts of the undergraduates who express thier love and loyalty to the fraternity.The next was the Negros Oriental State University which is founded the same date with the Silliman Chapter ,June 22, 2004.


On the other hand the efforts of the DU`s towards chapter expansions will also be acknowledge in the history and so it has been included here the brothers who are responsible in expanding these chapters.








THE CHAPTER EXPANSIONS


Dipolog City, Philippines

Dipolog Medical College Foundation Inc. Chapter - founded by DU Mico Estacio with the support of DU Mark Ramos

Metro Manila , Philippines

All chapters of Metro Manila were founded by DU Onell Baroy

Philippine Christian University Chapter - founded July 28 , 2006

Polytechnic University of the
Philippines - founded August 8, 2007

Rizal Technological University of the Philippines - founded November 29, 2007

Colegio de San Juan de Letran - founded recently



The alumni pioneers of the fraternity eventhough they are busy with thier jobs both local or overseas, but they still stay in contact with thier alumni and undergraduate brothers for they believe that Delta Upsilon wasn`t only for college days but for a lifelong brotherhood. Hail delta upsilon!!!!





http://image.wetpaint.com/image/2/6I_r0gu1zeZ65jSki3YYgQ16204/GW202H182 FROM : THE ALUMNI FOUNDING PIONEERS OF DELTA UPSILON IN THE PHILIPPINES


Maybe I'm mistaken, but in reference to the bit highlighted in black above, doesn't that conflict with DU's constitution and bylaws (Articles 2 and 3) and Policies and Procedures (Policies 4.5, 4.6) which are available online (http://www.deltau.org/Default.aspx?action=Content&ContentId=150)? As I understand it, no interest group has formally been established, no colony has been recognized, and no chapter has been chartered. Even though the ritual of initiation may be available online, how is the "initiation" of the "seven pioneers" a valid initiation? And isn't the founding date of a new chapter marked by the date on which IHQ grants a charter?

[questioner]

Early of 2004 seven group of men who were alumni of the Negros Oriental State University and former fratmen in thier college days have decided to established the Delta Upsilon International Fraternity in the Philippines

Who are these men?(citation needed)

[rufio]

thats what im thinkin, Sherlock. and I'm thinkin these two "Philippine" organizations might be related in some way.

wow, i guess its harder than i thought to convey sarcasm over the internet.

[DUKyleXY]

Maybe I'm mistaken, but in reference to the bit highlighted in black above, doesn't that conflict with DU's constitution and bylaws (Articles 2 and 3) and Policies and Procedures (Policies 4.5, 4.6) which are available online (http://www.deltau.org/Default.aspx?action=Content&ContentId=150)? As I understand it, no interest group has formally been established, no colony has been recognized, and no chapter has been chartered. Even though the ritual of initiation may be available online, how is the "initiation" of the "seven pioneers" a valid initiation? And isn't the founding date of a new chapter marked by the date on which IHQ grants a charter?


They consider themselves to be valid chapters and are in the process of establishing themselves as such with our IHQ.

[SAEalumnus]

Who are these men?(citation needed)

The Philippine websites list their names as: Benhur R. Patalinghug (their alumni president) (http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/member.php?u=76442), Fryle P. Lim (their alumni vice president) (http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/member.php?u=54428), Roel G. Zunega Jr (their alumni secretary) (http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/member.php?u=76142), Albert A. Suelto (their alumni treasurer), Laong-laan Polinar, Cerilo Ibanez, and Rico Bohol.
They consider themselves to be valid chapters and are in the process of establishing themselves as such with our IHQ.
Interesting. I guess we'll just have to wait and see the results of DU IHQ's investigation. It just seems to me that they're taking liberties that may ultimately cost them the opportunity to obtain a genuine charter.

[BEN HUR]

AS THE ALUMNI PRES FOR D.U PHILIPPINE CHAPTER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ORGANIZATION AS FAR AS OUR EXCISTENCE IS CONCERNED YOU MAY ASKED ME IM CURRENTLY BASE IN THE STATE OF NEW JERSEY U.S.A IM BEN A GEOLOGIST BY PROFFISION.

[alumnisec]

brod benhur I really appreciate that u have come up to this site and had joined also on this forum cause I really waited that by somehow the Philippine chapters will now have a spokeperson to the IHQ if ever they want to meet with you in person.The finalization of our recognition will be after the Board of Directors meeting this coming january 9, 2009 as what the executive director had emailed to me.

About your location there just take charge of the meeting of some chapters whrein you can easily visit them or those chapters that is near your residents in New Jersey.Thanks for joining this forum.

[BEN HUR]

BRO. IM AM VERY GLAD TO HEAR FROM YOU EVENTHOUGH WERE BUSY FROM OUR WORK NOW A DAYS BUT STILL MY HEART BELONGS TO THE FRATERNITY ILL DO MY BEST TO ATTEND THAT MEETING BUT I CANT GARANTE DUE TO MY WORK SCHEDULE BUT I NEED ALL THE INFO. ABOUT THAT MATTER.
THANKS

[alumnisec]

brod your presence in the US will help a lot.Actually I already send to the Executive Director your contact number and email add so that he will also send you some updates after the meeting of the board on January.If ever I could go back to the Philippines next year I probably meet all chapters in our country so that I could share also to them regarding the progress of our affiliation.

[alumnisec]

Sorry to ask but as the alumni secretary of Delta Upsilon in the Philippines ,I just want know about the pledging procedures.In the Philippines we do have system also with regards to the acceptance of pledges.

Since we the DU`s working in Saudi Arabia are finding it hard to communicate always to oour brothers in the Philippines,I just want to know or even drop me a private message wherein I am very much interested to know about the way pledgees being accepted by the fraternity.

In the Philippines although absolutely no hazing but pledgees undergo on a 1 month service in order to become an official DU,like helping the fraternity during philantrophic activities like tree planting,mass feeding,clean up drive and others.

Grading system is a must also cause we are aiming for potential members and future leaders.

I would be glad to hear any ideas regarding this matter.Thanks and God bless!!!

[alumnisec]

Good day!!!

Just want to encourage everyone to visit also our alumni site www.deltaupsilonalumni.wetpaint.com (http://www.deltaupsilonalumni.wetpaint.com) cause I upload there photos of DU`s who are working the same with me here in Saudi Arabia.

Most probably with the help of DU`s here in Saudi Arabia we will be designing a new website which will be launch next year.It would be www.phildu.org (http://www.phildu.org) .Am still working with the web host on how much to pay yearly.This will be the official website of all DU`s in the Philippines.

The webiste www.deltaupsilonalumni.wetpaint.com (http://www.deltaupsilonalumni.wetpaint.com) will be shut down next year if ever we will finish the official site.

Thanks and best regards!!!

Roel Zunega
Alumni Secretary
Delta Upsilon Philippines

[alumnisec]

Please do excuse me for posting your furom since our chapters in the Philippines are still waiting for the final recognition this coming January 9, 2009 as what the executive director had told me.

I just want to take this opportunity to publish our new site and its the website that will carry all the chapters in the Philippines and as well as link all the chapters.

The responsible of making this website is me and other overseas filipino workers who are designated the same with me here in Saudi Arabia.

Please do visit the official website of all chapters in the Philippines.

www.duph.net (http://www.duph.net)
We are still looking for additional details we can add on the site but at
least we had establish or finish one. Whatever decisions from the Board although we had know and recieve an email that it is getting positive but still we are hoping that we receive the official recognition.

We the alumni both in the Philippines and as well as working abroad are expressing our love and loyalty to this fraternity and respect whateever decision from the Board of Directors.

Since from the beginning of our affiliation we never try to expand Delta Upsilon without permission and even the alumni from alberta and miami are our witness that they had advice us on how to become a recognize chapter.Without thier replies and advices probably we will not pursue on expanding Delta Upsilon in our country.

[greekwatch]

Regarding to your concern petitioning Delta Upsilon in the Philippines is not just that easy especially the payments matters using dollars at least you individuals has an income 100 thousands and above each members. Why Filipinos always copied such like this Greek Letters they want to be always what we called "International Fraternity" it's a shameful doings. Be original don't copy such name and just wasting your time and big disappointed to all your members time and efforts. Just a piece of advise make your own name be unique and used your brain.


visit us:
http://www.greekwatch.ne1.net (http://www.greekwatch.ne1.net/)

[alumnisec]

We are not like any other fraternities who didnt ask for permission in fact we are processing already for the official recognition. Greekwatch please mind your own business cause you don`t know whats going on with our application for recognition.

We the alumni knows already how much to pay and we are willing to spend dollars just to be a recognize chapter.The decision is on the Board only and we respect whatever decisions will be made.

We are willing to close and shut down all chapter in the Philippines of Delta Upsilon if ever we will be disapprove.We love Delta Upsilon but our existence will be judge only after the January 9 , 2009 Leadership Meeting.

Although its getting positive as the Exec Director says on the email ,still we are waiting for the final decision of the Board.

[SAEalumnus]

We are not like any other fraternities who didnt ask for permission in fact we are processing already for the official recognition. Greekwatch please mind your own business cause you don`t know whats going on with our application for recognition.

We the alumni knows already how much to pay and we are willing to spend dollars just to be a recognize chapter.The decision is on the Board only and we respect whatever decisions will be made.

We are willing to close and shut down all chapter in the Philippines of Delta Upsilon if ever we will be disapprove.We love Delta Upsilon but our existence will be judge only after the January 9 , 2009 Leadership Meeting.

Although its getting positive as the Exec Director says on the email ,still we are waiting for the final decision of the Board.
QFP

[alumnisec]

Its true SAE Alumnus , I have already discuss all this things to the Exec Director that if ever disapprove ,eventhough its hard to close but we will do it if ever we will be disapprove.

I have discuss already this things to my filipino brothers and they already prepare themselves on the outcome of the decision ,this month of January.

We the DU`s here working in Saudi Arabia always monitor greekchat and whatever things that hurt us we will always ready to defend ourselves as well as the existence of Delta Upsilon in the Philippines.

Our alumni president Benhur whos now base in New Jersey working as a geologist are ready to answer questions with regards to the expansion of delta upsilon in our country.And he will be the one to process all the necessary papers and chapter fees if ever we will be recognize.

[naraht]

Comments on some of the other groups where there is a USA group and a Philippines group.

1) Alpha Phi Omega of the Philippines is a separate legal entity which was founded with the full knowledge of the United States group (information about them was in the magazine for APO-USA that came out the month after the APO-Phil founding).

2) Alpha Sigma Phi of the Philippines had its first chapter in 1959, formed as a national organization in 1972 and formed an international council with the ASPhi-USA in 1984.

3) Phi Beta Kappa is in the process of taking legal action in the Philippines to force the group in the Philippines to disband.

At least one of the others that is a social greek (I don't remember which off the top of my head), the group in the Philippines has both brothers and sisters, which makes affiliation with the group in the USA just about impossible.

As best as I can tell, the Delta Upsilon effort in the Philippines is pretty new (within the last 5 years) and while not following the rules for expansion the way that they should be followed within North America, seem to be playing it fairly straight. While I *personally* think that a separate National Organization like ASPhi and APO would be better than trying to make a region of them in the same Organization, I do hope that things work out for the best.

Sincerely

Randolph Finder
Alpha Phi Omega Alumnus and
Wikipedian attempting to keep make http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fraternities_and_sororities_in_the_Philipp ines a better page.

[BEN HUR]

Base on what you have posted here it sems you have undermined us, and the effort that we exert in this matter. Are you trying to say that its about money of whom could just afford? are you aware of the basic foundation of this brotherhood, ITS ALL ABOUT VERTUE AND CHARACTER Body not money..Im working here in states as a exploration geologist for an oil corp. and i have lots of people working under me and i know very well what would be ther income, so dont let me think that you dont know what your talking about..

[alumnisec]

Nahrat for your information we have done 20 things in bringing DU to the campus , and we never did try to establish Delta Upsilon without permission.It just so happened that all of us the pioneers in the Philippines are already alumni and because we try to work abroad thats why we didn`t process the recognition consistently.

Before I was in Singapore working as data controller and now I`m here in Riyadh, KSA working as Department Manager.We are seeking also our future therefore applying for recognition to our chapters in the Philippines wasn`t that easy until in 2008 last year that our brothers in the Philippines had called us and inform that Delta Upsilon is getting strong in our country so I decided and all the alumni decided to pursue the application for recognition.

Don`t compare our affiliation with APO-Phil and Alphasig-Phil cause in the past there wasn`t internet as you know and the process of applying for recognition before can`t be done by emails instead by personal visit only.Unlike now, that I do have contact with the Exec Director and I keep on sending emails to him and as well as informing me that the final decision will be on this coming January 9 ,2009.As a matter of fact we are still under investigation and last October 23-26 ,2008 if am not mistaken during the Board of Directors meeting our chapters had been discuss and included in the agenda.

Honestly, am a fratman in college ,two time member of different fraternities , I decided to quit cause i really hate hazing !!!!I was even the president of these fraternities until times comes that I finish college that I decided to leave the fraternity.

About APO and ALPHASIG they are great fraternities in the Philippines ,in fact most politicians are APO member.With regards to Alpha Sigma Phi I know a lot about the history of this fraternity here in the Philippines ,its right that in 1984 the ties between ASP-USA and ASP-Phil was done.Indeed, one representative from the Philippines ,the late Atty. Leandro Echavez was the father of my soon to be wife.And even her is also a member of Alpha Sigma Phi.The only difference of ASP-USA and ASP-Phil is that USA is exlcusive for men only or shall we say fraternity while in the Philippines its COED or both men and women can joined the group.

I just want to say something to some people who will gonna post again and still continue to put us down all I can say is that please give us some space cause we don`t disturb u nor we mind your business!!!!!!

[alumnisec]

About the list of organizations that nahrat has post ,Delta Upsilon wasn`t included on the list coz we are still waiting for the final approval of the official recognition if ever we will be accepted and be a part of the International.

The list of fraternities present there are the fraternities registered in the Securities and Exchange Commission of the Philippines.If ever we will be officially recognize ,by the time of my vacation this May to the Philippines I will registered the fraternity to the government agency and that is the Securities and Exchange Commission.

We need legal documents and official recognition in order for us to register in SEC Philippines.

[naraht]

Nahrat for your information we have done 20 things in bringing DU to the campus , and we never did try to establish Delta Upsilon without permission.It just so happened that all of us the pioneers in the Philippines are already alumni and because we try to work abroad thats why we didn`t process the recognition consistently.

Before I was in Singapore working as data controller and now I`m here in Riyadh, KSA working as Department Manager.We are seeking also our future therefore applying for recognition to our chapters in the Philippines wasn`t that easy until in 2008 last year that our brothers in the Philippines had called us and inform that Delta Upsilon is getting strong in our country so I decided and all the alumni decided to pursue the application for recognition.

Don`t compare our affiliation with APO-Phil and Alphasig-Phil cause in the past there wasn`t internet as you know and the process of applying for recognition before can`t be done by emails instead by personal visit only.Unlike now, that I do have contact with the Exec Director and I keep on sending emails to him and as well as informing me that the final decision will be on this coming January 9 ,2009.As a matter of fact we are still under investigation and last October 23-26 ,2008 if am not mistaken during the Board of Directors meeting our chapters had been discuss and included in the agenda.

Honestly, am a fratman in college ,two time member of different fraternities , I decided to quit cause i really hate hazing !!!!I was even the president of these fraternities until times comes that I finish college that I decided to leave the fraternity.

About APO and ALPHASIG they are great fraternities in the Philippines ,in fact most politicians are APO member.With regards to Alpha Sigma Phi I know a lot about the history of this fraternity here in the Philippines ,its right that in 1984 the ties between ASP-USA and ASP-Phil was done.Indeed, one representative from the Philippines ,the late Atty. Leandro Echavez was the father of my soon to be wife.And even her is also a member of Alpha Sigma Phi.The only difference of ASP-USA and ASP-Phil is that USA is exlcusive for men only or shall we say fraternity while in the Philippines its COED or both men and women can joined the group.

I just want to say something to some people who will gonna post again and still continue to put us down all I can say is that please give us some space cause we don`t disturb u nor we mind your business!!!!!!


I was not the one who questioned how the ritual could be legal. As I understand from your post, the people who first initiated brothers in the Philippines are alumni of Delta Upsilon in North America, is this correct?

In many ways your proposed affiliation is somewhat between those of Alpha Phi Omega than Alpha Sigma Phi.

For Alpha Phi Omega, the difference in time between brothers being initiated in the Philippines (March 1950) and acceptance of this fact by the North American Fraternity was a matter of months and *that* delay was mostly waiting for the next National Convention (December 1950). Alpha Phi Omega's National Board was kept informed during the entire process. While relations were informally suspended after the Ferdinand Tabtab situation, there was *never* a feeling that the group in the Philippines was in any way illegally using any symbols. (See http://www.apo.org.ph/?mode=articles&cmd=view&id=72) (I'm on both Alpha Phi Omega national History and Archives Committee and on the International Relations Committee)

For Alpha Sigma Phi, I haven't any information to indicate that Alpha Sigma Phi in North America was aware of the founding of Alpha Sigma Phi in the Philippines, in fact given that the first two chapters in the Philippines which were founded in 1959 and 1965 were not themselves merged into a single national organization until 1972, I would be surprised if the North American brothers were aware prior to that time.

I would frankly *love* to see Delta Upsilon in the Philippines in affiliation with Delta Upsilon of North America. However, due to differences in standard of living *and* the college life between North America and the Philippines, that requirements that make sense in one may not make sense in the other. For this reason, I think that an international affiliation of the form of Alpha Phi Omega or Alpha Sigma Phi would be superior to that of becoming a province of Delta Upsilon of North America. Having said that, becoming a province would be massively superior to the current situation.

[naraht]

About the list of organizations that nahrat has post ,Delta Upsilon wasn`t included on the list coz we are still waiting for the final approval of the official recognition if ever we will be accepted and be a part of the International.

The list of fraternities present there are the fraternities registered in the Securities and Exchange Commission of the Philippines.If ever we will be officially recognize ,by the time of my vacation this May to the Philippines I will registered the fraternity to the government agency and that is the Securities and Exchange Commission.

We need legal documents and official recognition in order for us to register in SEC Philippines.

I didn't include Delta Upsilon in that listing because the situation is currently in flux. (Frankly, I'd be surprised if things could be *totally* sorted out on January 9th, everything I've seen proposed would seem to require that the change would be "ratified" by a change of the bylaws by the Delta Upsilon Convention.)

I'm not sure that any list exists of all of the groups registered by the SEC. The one mentioned here that is on scribed is originally from Wikipedia (I created that wikipedia page in the first place) (Can't find the post in this thread :( )and I barely knew about the SEC at the time. I have added Delta Upsilon to that page on Wikipedia now.

In regards to that, are familiar with a group called Delta Gamma Beta? They are a Philippine group that listed themselves on the Wikipedia page with their International affiliation being that of Delta Upsilon. Are they an affiliated Sorority to Delta Upsilon in the Philippines or something similar?

I'd *love* to be able to get an official list of Fraternities and Sororities that have registered with the SEC, any ideas how to get such a list?

[SAEalumnus]

I was not the one who questioned how the ritual could be legal. As I understand from your post, the people who first initiated brothers in the Philippines are alumni of Delta Upsilon in North America, is this correct?

This is not correct. The seven "pioneers" as they term themselves obtained DU's ritual online and initiated themselves. They were students from the Philippines who are now alumni from the Philippines. No one from DU in North America participated in their "initiation."

[naraht]

This is not correct. The seven "pioneers" as they term themselves obtained DU's ritual online and initiated themselves. They were students from the Philippines who are now alumni from the Philippines. No one from DU in North America participated in their "initiation."

Ah. That complicates things...

[SAEalumnus]

Ah. That complicates things...
Agreed. There's absolutely a set protocol that is to be followed in the request to a GLO for a charter. Going about things the way the are is like putting the cart before the horse. It's not likely to do them any favors. Frankly I'd be very surprised if DU-IHQ actually granted them any kind of recognized status.

[alumnisec]

I am a 2000 graduate of BS Geology and the others are same with my course and Engineering courses.We establish the fraternity in the year 2004 and we do have respective jobs already when we have decided to expand Delta Upsilon.

In 2001 I was already started working abroad and same with my brothers who have decided to migrate in other countries.I am a former president of my fraternities during college way back 1996-2000.And I know a lot with regards to registration of fraternities in universities that is why in 2004 we come up to a decision to try to ask for approval to Delta Upsilon in North America if they will allow us to expand thier fraternity to our country.

What encourage us before to establish and expand Delta Upsilon in the Philippines was that there are two alumni from Alberta and Miami chapter that had responded our emails and advice us to solidify the fraternity and as well as send the list of members and photos to the IHQ for reference.Due to this we decided to solidify it by making the fraternity registered to Silliman University (www.su.edu.ph (http://www.su.edu.ph)) or the first chapter where Delta Upsilon was expanded.

But our application wasn`t consistent for the reason that we do also want our future to be stable so we migrate again to other countries for the good of our carrrier.But last year we do finalize our application for recognition cause the fraternity has been expanding to other parts of the country and in fact we do have 6-7 active chapters now.

We don`t want to expect that we will be recognize but at least we did our best to be affiliated to the International.The alumni association of Delta Upsilon in the Philippines and also the undergraduates chapters are ready for whatever it may takes regarding our affiliation.We will accept it.

[alumnisec]

I didn't include Delta Upsilon in that listing because the situation is currently in flux. (Frankly, I'd be surprised if things could be *totally* sorted out on January 9th, everything I've seen proposed would seem to require that the change would be "ratified" by a change of the bylaws by the Delta Upsilon Convention.)

I'm not sure that any list exists of all of the groups registered by the SEC. The one mentioned here that is on scribed is originally from Wikipedia (I created that wikipedia page in the first place) (Can't find the post in this thread :( )and I barely knew about the SEC at the time. I have added Delta Upsilon to that page on Wikipedia now.

In regards to that, are familiar with a group called Delta Gamma Beta? They are a Philippine group that listed themselves on the Wikipedia page with their International affiliation being that of Delta Upsilon. Are they an affiliated Sorority to Delta Upsilon in the Philippines or something similar?

I'd *love* to be able to get an official list of Fraternities and Sororities that have registered with the SEC, any ideas how to get such a list?


I`m sorry I was thinking that was the list of the SEC Philippines.Anyway Delta Gamma Beta is totally not connected with the Delta Upsilon.They are a different organization.They don`n apply for any kind of affiliation cause Delta Gamma Beta in the Philippines is quite a strong and stable fraternity already.Kindly edit that one cause I think they will react with that one cause I have some friends who are members of that fraternity.

About the list of fraternities registered in SEC Philippines,I will send it to you after I could email the agency in the Philippines.As of now I can`t register Delta Upsilon in the Securities and Exchange Commission in the Philippines cause they need legal documents that comes from the IHQ to register Delta Upsilon in the said agency.

[naraht]

I`m sorry I was thinking that was the list of the SEC Philippines.Anyway Delta Gamma Beta is totally not connected with the Delta Upsilon.They are a different organization.They don`n apply for any kind of affiliation cause Delta Gamma Beta in the Philippines is quite a strong and stable fraternity already.Kindly edit that one cause I think they will react with that one cause I have some friends who are members of that fraternity.

About the list of fraternities registered in SEC Philippines,I will send it to you after I could email the agency in the Philippines.As of now I can`t register Delta Upsilon in the Securities and Exchange Commission in the Philippines cause they need legal documents that comes from the IHQ to register Delta Upsilon in the said agency.

I know that I can check for fraternities/sororities being reserved or registered one by one at the SEC page http://iregister.sec.gov.ph/MainServlet?param=search, but I don't know if there is a more efficient way.

[SAEalumnus]

...our chapters in the Philippines are still waiting for the final recognition this coming January 9, 2009 as what the executive director had told me...

Today's the day. I wonder how soon we'll have an answer? Any DUs in contact with HQ to be able to find out?

[alumnisec]

We are ready for whatever it may takes as I`ve said before ,we will accept and respect the decision of the Board.At least we try our best and we are well prepare for the outcome of the meeting.

Just want to thank all those DU`s who are members of these greekchat forum for not even reacting nor commenting on whatever we have posted here.Thanks to Kyle of Iowa chapter for accepting our affiliation to the IHQ and even posted in this greekchat forum the forwarded letter being sent to thier chapter during the Board of Director Meeting last October 24-26 ,2008 regarding our application for recognition.

If ever we will be approve or disapprove , all I could say is, In behalf of the Delta Upsilon in the Philippines we are grateful to be a part (even if not official due to unchartered) of this fraternity but our existence depends on the final decision of the Board and our brotherhood now lies on the result of the meeting starting today ,and to all North American DU`s and as well in Canada ,just want to thank you all for your consideration and as well as repecting our application to be a recognize chapter.

Thank to you all cause I don`t know if maybe this is my last day of posting if ever we will be disapprove.Thanks again an best regards to all!!!

[alumnisec]

Delta Upsilon`s first chapter in the Philippines was in Silliman University wherein its one of the top schools in the Philippines.

Here is the complete data :
http://www.philippinenews.com/article.php?id=1503

http://www.filipinasoul.com/the-philippines-top-20-universities/

[rufio]

Today's the day. I wonder how soon we'll have an answer? Any DUs in contact with HQ to be able to find out?

i've been with IHQ all weekend. 8th - 11th for convention in Indy. our UGAB only briefly mentioned the topic in passing but it didnt seem like it was a big item to talk about on the agenda. Honestly, i think the issue was hardly discussed seeing as how all of IHQ was busy running our Winter Conference. i heard the topic tabled to the 16th. but this is all info i've just overheard, nothing official.

[alumnisec]

Ruf are we disapprove?If ever you have any idea please let me know cause am also waiting for the email of the exec director Justin Kirk ,if we will be disapprove its fine with us we will respect the decision of the Board.

Although all of us will be sadden but we will accept the truth that it is not easy to apply for recognition.

Thanks for the infos you posted here ,please do post always if ever you have new news on our affiliation.

[rufio]

no official news. just gossip, rumors and hearsay

[SAEalumnus]

i heard the topic tabled to the 16th. but this is all info i've just overheard, nothing official.
Any updates?

[rufio]

not that i'm aware of.

[rslpac1]

Greetings all,

I've been reading the DU in the Phillipines thread, and thought I would add some interesting information.

Though I'm not one to pass judgement, I thought I'd share with you what would hypothetically happen if something like this happened in Phi Mu Alpha Sinfonia Fraternity, a Men's Music Fraternity in the USA of which I am a proud brother. Please don't mistake this as passing judgement on anything going on - just wanted to share with you would would probably happen if something like this happened with Sinfonia.

First and Foremost colonization and chartering of chapter of Phi Mu Alpha Sinfonia can only be done through the consent and approval of the National Fraternity. This is regardless of geography, be it in Alaska, Hawaii, or 10 minutes from our HQ in Indiana.

Any entity that uses our name and rituals without the approval of the fraternity would probably receive a stop and desist communication from our National HQ/Officers, followed by an investigation by the fraternity, and possible legal action. Especially if a group got fed up with waiting and found some way to be initiated anyway - this is a violation of many rules and regulations that the fraternity has and would be cause for the disbandment of the group looking to join the fraternity.

Any collegiate group that wants to form a chapter of Phi Mu Alpha Sinfonia must go through the colonization process. Only collegiate chapters are authorized to initiate members; this is strictly enforced as alumni associations nor colonies can not initiate. When a colony becomes a chapter they are initiated by another collegiate chapter (a "big brother" chapter). Only active, chartered chapters in good standing with the fraternity may initiate new members.

This is our colonization process:
http://www.sinfonia.org/Resources/Guide%20to%20the%20Colony%20Program.pdf

(FYI - I am a president of an alumni association and have served Sinfonia in many different leadership positions.)

I hope this was informative and helpful. Please keep in mind that this is only my best guess what would happen if my fraternity was presented with the same issues as faced by Delta Upsilon. I hope everything is resolved in a peaceful and logical manner.

Fraternally,
Rich L.
Phi Mu Alpha Sinfonia Fraternity of America (www.sinfonia.org (http://www.sinfonia.org))
President, NYCAA
Gamma Alpha '92

[MysticCat]

Any entity that uses our name and rituals without the approval of the fraternity would probably receive a stop and desist communication from our National HQ/Officers, followed by an investigation by the fraternity, and possible legal action. Especially if a group got fed up with waiting and found some way to be initiated anyway - this is a violation of many rules and regulations that the fraternity has and would be cause for the disbandment of the group looking to join the fraternity.Hey Rich, and welcome to GreekChat!

I get what you're saying in the quoted part above. The problem is that when, as here, the group in question is in another country (on the other side of the world, no less), realistically, from a legal and financial standpoint, a fraternity's options to investigate and take legal action are going to be very limited.

Fraternally,

[naraht]

Hey Rich, and welcome to GreekChat!

I get what you're saying in the quoted part above. The problem is that when, as here, the group in question is in another country (on the other side of the world, no less), realistically, from a legal and financial standpoint, a fraternity's options to investigate and take legal action are going to be very limited.

Fraternally,

And trying to get that legal action enforced in the Philippines, especially if the group isn't a business registered with the Philippine SEC gets somewhat difficult.

There have been many different reactions from USA Greek Letter Organizations to groups with the same name in the Philippines. On the one hand, you have Alpha Sigma Phi, where eventually they accepted the group in the Philippines as a separate national organization as a separate International Umbrella, on the other hand you have Phi Beta Kappa where the USA organizations is going through the effort to sue in the Philippines. (I think Phi Beta Kappa is into the second year of the effort).

There are several groups in the middle including Delta Upsilon(Phil), Alpha Tau Omega(Phil) and Sigma Alpha Epsilon(Phil). Delta Upsilon(Phil) is attempting to affiliate. Alpha Tau Omega(Phil) and Sigma Alpha Epsilon(Phil) seem to be using symbols that are derived from those of the US groups. Whether the Philippine National approves of that, I don't know. Not sure what the situation is with Sigma Nu...

For Alpha Phi Omega, the effort in the Philippines has been approved by the US group since the year it started.

Randy

[rslpac1]

Thanks for the information!

The only thing that I believe is the major sticking point, and one that sort of confuses me, is the fact that DU in the Phillippines did not optain approval from the International Fraternity, nor go through a colony process. The chartering of a chapter, much less initiating members, without the approval of that fraternity's national hq is grounds for expulsion in most if not all fraternities. Its illegal use of all the fraternities symbols, rituals, materials, etc...

Bear in mind I only speak from my experience in Sinfonia and what I know of the U.S. greek system. Any interest group, regardless of location or geography or country, IMHO must follow the rules of that organization in order to be a legal entity and arm of that group. Doesn't matter if its the U.S., Canada, Japan, Phillippines, etc... you must follow the proper procedures to be first a colony and then a chapter.

My 2 cents.
Rich

[rufio]

Thanks for the information!

The only thing that I believe is the major sticking point, and one that sort of confuses me, is the fact that DU in the Phillippines did not optain approval from the International Fraternity, nor go through a colony process. The chartering of a chapter, much less initiating members, without the approval of that fraternity's national hq is grounds for expulsion in most if not all fraternities. Its illegal use of all the fraternities symbols, rituals, materials, etc...


which is why they're appealing for affiliation. they recognize they are acting independently. they just went about becoming DU's the wrong way and are trying to find a way to rectify it.

[naraht]

Delta Upsilon of the Philippines is a relatively young group as well (founded June 22, 2004).

If Delta Upsilon of North America were to require as part of legal affiliation (either as a separate "National" or as part of them) that all members in the Philippines by someone already in Delta Upsilon and was willing to help make that happen, I think it could be made to work. This could be done by either initiating some of the DU-Phil alumni in North America or by having a group from the DU North America National Board/National go over to the Philippines.

From a quick scan of the ritual, it appears that it could be done with only 3 members of DU-Phil being properly initiated, but that's just reading it. (And I'm sure it would be better if done by more)

Also, I notice that the ritual mentions the United States and Canada specifically, DU may actually have to change their ritual to properly sew up all of the loose ends... :confused:

[MysticCat]

The only thing that I believe is the major sticking point, and one that sort of confuses me, is the fact that DU in the Phillippines did not optain approval from the International Fraternity, nor go through a colony process. The chartering of a chapter, much less initiating members, without the approval of that fraternity's national hq is grounds for expulsion in most if not all fraternities. Its illegal use of all the fraternities symbols, rituals, materials, etc...I think the legality can get a little sticky. Yes, names, coats-of-arms and the like are registered trademarks, and fraternities have the ability to take action for the unauthorized use of them. That gets much more complicated, and in some cases near impossible, though, when the unauthorized use is not in the United States.

Generic symbols typically are not protected. We, for example, could not trademark a simple lyre or triangle, although a specific design of such a symbol (such as the lyre in our visual identity) can be trademarked.

As for rituals, an interesting question is raised. Will the typical fraternity try to take any kind of legal action, since doing so would require the fraternity to go into court and prove the unauthorized use of the ritual? Doing so would almost certainly require the complaining fraternity to introduce its ritual into evidence.

Which reiterates what I think may be an important factor here -- DU is not a typical fraternity where ritual is concerned. Its ritual has always been open; non-secrecy was one of the founding principles of DU. The DU can be found on their national website. I wonder if that made it an easier target for the group in the Phillipines.

I'll admit that as I've read about these orgs in the Phillipines, I've wondered, "How would we do if it were us?" Unfortunately, I think that an equally important question is "What could we do?"

[naraht]

I think the legality can get a little sticky. Yes, names, coats-of-arms and the like are registered trademarks, and fraternities have the ability to take action for the unauthorized use of them. That gets much more complicated, and in some cases near impossible, though, when the unauthorized use is not in the United States.

Generic symbols typically are not protected. We, for example, could not trademark a simple lyre or triangle, although a specific design of such a symbol (such as the lyre in our visual identity) can be trademarked.

As for rituals, an interesting question is raised. Will the typical fraternity try to take any kind of legal action, since doing so would require the fraternity to go into court and prove the unauthorized use of the ritual? Doing so would almost certainly require the complaining fraternity to introduce its ritual into evidence.

Which reiterates what I think may be an important factor here -- DU is not a typical fraternity where ritual is concerned. Its ritual has always been open; non-secrecy was one of the founding principles of DU. The DU can be found on their national website. I wonder if that made it an easier target for the group in the Phillipines.

I'll admit that as I've read about these orgs in the Phillipines, I've wondered, "How would we do if it were us?" Unfortunately, I think that an equally important question is "What could we do?"

I think Phi Beta Kappa may have it easier then in the law suit. If I remember my Fraternity history correctly, the Phi Beta Kappa ritual was revealed sometime before 1820 and as such is at about the same level of privacy as Delta Upsilon.

Symbols get tricky, what do you do if the National Organization in the Philippines doesn't officially use it, but all kinds of youtube videos and Friends pages of the Philippines group do use it (or something similar), which I *think* is the situation for SAE.

I would tend to think that lawsuits would go after the public parts of the Fraternity in the Philippines, use of symbols, claims that they are part of the USA group etc.

To me there are three questions that need to be answered about a Group in the Philippines with the same name as that of one in the United States before deciding what action to take.

1) Are members of this Group claiming to actually be members of the Fraternity in the United States?

2) If no, Are the members of this Group using symbols, songs and other related indicators of the North American Group as part of their activities

3) If the first two are no, Are the groups of the same or similar "types" in terms of limitations on their membership for example (only engineers for example).

If a group started in the Philippines called Phi Mu Alpha that was limited to only male Medical Students at the University of the Philippines College of Medicine (say as a competitor to Phi Kappa Mu (http://www.phikappamu.com/)) and had Blue and White as their colonrs, I seriously doubt that Phi Mu Alpha -Sinfonia would sue them.

OTOH, if it this group were Phi Mu Alpha (or Sinfonia) at the University of Philippines Music and Performing Arts College limited to Music Students and had a crest with a triangle on top of a red diagonal cross on a pentagonal shield and claimed that they were part of your organization. I think Phi Mu Alpha would be *far* more concerned and might actually talk to Phi Beta Kappa to get suggestions.

[MysticCat]

If a group started in the Philippines called Phi Mu Alpha that was limited to only male Medical Students at the University of the Philippines College of Medicine (say as a competitor to Phi Kappa Mu (http://www.phikappamu.com/)) and had Blue and White as their colonrs, I seriously doubt that Phi Mu Alpha -Sinfonia would sue them.

OTOH, if it this group were Phi Mu Alpha (or Sinfonia) at the University of Philippines Music and Performing Arts College limited to Music Students and had a crest with a triangle on top of a red diagonal cross on a pentagonal shield and claimed that they were part of your organization. I think Phi Mu Alpha would be *far* more concerned and might actually talk to Phi Beta Kappa to get suggestions.Agreed. I just wonder how much could feasibly be done. Maybe we'll all learn soon enough.

[naraht]

Agreed. I just wonder how much could feasibly be done. Maybe we'll all learn soon enough.

Maybe. I wish Phi Beta Kappa luck. See www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATGzKOmopHw as an example of what Phi Beta Kappa is suing about. and if you want to see what Sigma Alpha Epsilon is dealing with, see http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/announcement.php?f=90

Unable to find a good source for Alpha Tau Omega, but they do use a symbol that looks similar to the maltese cross for ATO North America...

Randy

[greekwatch]

Base on what you have posted here it sems you have undermined us, and the effort that we exert in this matter. Are you trying to say that its about money of whom could just afford? are you aware of the basic foundation of this brotherhood, ITS ALL ABOUT VERTUE AND CHARACTER Body not money..Im working here in states as a exploration geologist for an oil corp. and i have lots of people working under me and i know very well what would be ther income, so dont let me think that you dont know what your talking about..

Ok you telling me your paying all the expense i think your boasting enough you have lots of people you think your the owner of the company "geologist for an oil corp." oh no! you cannot even make a house i think your staying only in the small apartment drinking the oil. All your salary is not enough to pay all expense or payment affiliate in DU our your sure.... hahahaha in pinoy we call it "Hambog mo or Hambogiro nimo"... :eek:

[preciousjeni]

greekwatch http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:forums.evolutionm.net/get/images/smilies/icon13.gif

[knight_shadow]

greekwatch http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:forums.evolutionm.net/get/images/smilies/icon13.gif

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[duphil]

This is unpleasant already that we the alumni in the Philippines had decide to tell the alumni secretary to email the executive director of Delta Upsilon and tell about the posting in this matter.

We had told the alumni secretary to reveal all the posting here and to clean out our name that we are not expanding without permission.We are silent already but this thread still reinvented that keeps on annoying us.

Let us see what will come out after the executive director will review this thread.

[alumnisec]

This is unpleasant already that we the alumni in the Philippines had decide to tell the alumni secretary to email the executive director of Delta Upsilon and tell about the posting in this matter.

We had told the alumni secretary to reveal all the posting here and to clean out our name that we are not expanding without permission.We are silent already but this thread still reinvented that keeps on annoying us.

Let us see what will come out after the executive director will review this thread.


I email this things already to the Executive Director Justin Kirk yesterday.All the alumni decision in the Philippines is right much better to share this matter to the Exec Director and let him discover how we are degraded here.

We come for affiliation in a peaceful manner but some accuse us of being stealers and whatsoever.It`s done brod and the Exec Director knows it already.GODSPEED!!!

[rufio]

please do not tell me you emailed a greek chat thread to Justin Kirk. unbelievable.

[naraht]

As far as I am concerned, given the degree of openness that Delta Upsilon of the Philippines has now shown, there are *exactly* two groups that can decide that Delta Upsilon is stealing, the Delta Upsilon (North-America) National Board and then once they have made their decision, the Delta Upsilon (North-America) National Convention. (For various reasons that I have stated, I believe that if the National Board decides to accept DU-Phil, that changes to the Delta Upsilon bylaws and minor changes to the *ritual* will have to be made.)

At this point, I feel that it is *no longer appropriate* for those who are not brothers of Delta Upsilon to accuse Delta Upsilon of the Philippoines of stealing, and for brothers of Delta Upsilon, they should, IMO, accept that at this point it is now being handled in the most appropriate manner, and arguments that it is not should be taken up with your national officers.

As for Greekwatch's comment:mad:, yes the setup of Delta Upsilon of North America tends to encourage chapters to have houses. However, I would expect that this will either lead to different rules for the Philippines of a separate national organization. However, this comment was very poorly phrased.

Randy
Sincerel

[preciousjeni]

it is now being handled in the most appropriate manner
Eh...ok

[SAEalumnus]

...there are *exactly* two groups that can decide that Delta Upsilon is stealing, the Delta Upsilon (North-America) National Board and then once they have made their decision, the Delta Upsilon (North-America) National Convention. ...

At this point, I feel that it is *no longer appropriate* for those who are not brothers of Delta Upsilon to accuse Delta Upsilon of the Philippoines of stealing, and for brothers of Delta Upsilon, they should, IMO, accept that at this point it is now being handled in the most appropriate manner, and arguments that it is not should be taken up with your national officers.


Closing thread pending a decision by DU's IHQ and/or National Convention.

[SAEalumnus]

It has been brought to my attention that Delta Upsilon's Board of Directors has declined recognition to the Philippine groups, and that the leadership of the Philippine groups has been made aware of this decision.

I anticipate no further discussion by or about the Philippine groups will be needed here (see quote below), so this thread will remain closed indefinitely.

We are not like any other fraternities who didnt ask for permission in fact we are processing already for the official recognition. Greekwatch please mind your own business cause you don`t know whats going on with our application for recognition.

We the alumni knows already how much to pay and we are willing to spend dollars just to be a recognize chapter.The decision is on the Board only and we respect whatever decisions will be made.

We are willing to close and shut down all chapter in the Philippines of Delta Upsilon if ever we will be disapprove.We love Delta Upsilon but our existence will be judge only after the January 9 , 2009 Leadership Meeting.

Although its getting positive as the Exec Director says on the email ,still we are waiting for the final decision of the Board.

[alumnisec]

For the info of all DU`s in North America and Canada,DU`s in the Philippines are already closed by the alumni officers in the Philippines.All members and officers of the 6 chapters in the Philippines had come up to a decision to respect and follow the order of the Board of Directors.Although it`s hurtful for us but we still accept that everything happens for a reason.

Our websites already closed and shut down same with all the chapters.Some chapters had change the name into another greek letters but others had transferred to other fraternities.All has it`s freedom to decide whether to remain in another greek name or another organization.

To all DU`s in US and Canada wish you all the best and farewell!!!!